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Title: Vibro-Axe and Blaster Pistol WIP
Post by: Hiryu02 on Dec 21, 2015, 05:01 PM
Good afternoon all, I am working on a paired set of one-handed Vibro-axes. I'm new here, and this is my first Mando build. While I wait for responses from the various sellers and makers of goods I have contacted here for my armor parts, I decided to start on some of the equipment that my Mando will be carrying.

The plan is for dual-wielded hand axes when in CQC, sniper rifle from afar, and a blaster pistol sidearm in other circumstances.

A helpful vod here suggested using PVC piping as a base for the melee weapons and it was a great idea, better than the all-EVA foam prop design I had in mind. So off to Lowes we go and now here we are.

This is the detailed design for the weapons. The idea is that the power source in the pommel/base of the axe produces Vibro-energy upon activation. The sleeve-like vibration conduit distributes the energy upwards to the business end of the weapon and a circuit focuses additional vibro-energy into the head and blade via the diffusers. 

(http://i.imgur.com/slqpzAo.jpg)

The design incorporates a front handguard and a rear parrying quillon for protection. The handle is wrapped in leather or hide.
In practical terms I will be purchasing leatherette or something similar from a fabric shop to wrap the handle. The circuit will be made with plain old black electrical wire. The PVC base is shown below:

(http://i.imgur.com/9eeCYVN.jpg)

I will be adding greeblies to the pommel and other areas and likely giving the pommel more mass via putty or something similar. The "sleeve" I will be making out of either another, larger PVC pipe section cut down and sanded to finish, or if that proves impractical I may use some EVA foam.

The axe "blade" will be made by drilling through the top section of the shaft and threading an appropriate thickness of armature wire through for a guide and for reinforcement. The actual blade will be two halves made with EVA foam glued together with the armature wire in the center.

(http://i.imgur.com/LLUhNac.jpg)

This should make the actual blade safe and sturdy enough to stand up to moderate play-fighting, should it need to be used. A false edge can be cut into the inner side of the avehead, for effect. Of course the rest of the work will be sanding down factory edges to create a worn look, installation of greeblies and other painted-on detail work, and final paintjob.

I do want to ask for opinions on the "vibro-circuit". Should the circuit be mirrored on both sides of the weapon so it appears identical from either side? or is an asymmetric look better? A third option is routing a single wire back and forth so that it appears on both sides of the weapon haft. Suggestions and feedback welcomed.

Thank you for reading this far!
Title: Re: Dual Vibro-Axes WIP
Post by: Mig Gilamar on Dec 21, 2015, 05:41 PM
I've found that a source for cheap leather is Goodwill or the Salvation Army stores. Look for old beat up leather purses or coats. Purses are usually a few bucks each, a coat will be pricier.

Hobby Lobby also has a leather work section where you can buy bags of leather scraps in various colors.
Title: Re: Dual Vibro-Axes WIP
Post by: Hiryu02 on Dec 22, 2015, 07:08 PM
Some progress today, was brainstorming a few ideas and another visit to Lowes and this is what we have:

(http://i.imgur.com/y8LRy0P.jpg)

And for some idea of the scale and proportion of the axe heads:

(http://i.imgur.com/oHD3EJ1.jpg)

Now, I have three handguard options, and some questions. The first two options are in the above image, which looks better? Keep in mind nothing is set in stone and of course everything will be painted, greeblied etc for more detail.

The third option is to make a handguard out of EVA foam, painted and reinforced with in internal wire for shape, and this handguard would be more rounded and possibly more organic-looking than the above examples, which are more industrial-looking. Unfortunately I can't make a an example build yet as I need to purchase some armature wire etc before I can make a mockup.

So I wanted to request feedback, which of the three would be best? OR, I could perhaps use two out of the three designs so each Axe was somewhat unique? Axehead and the rest of the weapon would be mostly identical, so the handguards have a chance to be differentiation.

Any thoughts?
Title: Re: Dual Vibro-Axes WIP
Post by: Cakes on Dec 22, 2015, 07:36 PM
This is looking great vod. I would do one of each? You could taper the straight guard down to a point maybe to add some detail?
You could use wire used to tie fencing together as It's pretty strong for your wire, but I'd also suggest notching out the piping so you can feed the blade through. If you did that you could then notch out a bit of the cap so it slides down locking the blade in place.
Title: Re: Dual Vibro-Axes WIP
Post by: Hiryu02 on Dec 22, 2015, 07:46 PM
This is looking great vod. I would do one of each? You could taper the straight guard down to a point maybe to add some detail?
You could use wire used to tie fencing together as It's pretty strong for your wire, but I'd also suggest notching out the piping so you can feed the blade through. If you did that you could then notch out a bit of the cap so it slides down locking the blade in place.

One vote for one of each!

But yes sir, I plan to dremel and bevel/round off all sharp, prefab-looking angles to get rid of the mass produced look. Drill holes, cut slots for greebs etc.

The notching idea is interesting and I will see what I can do to create that type of notch to feed the axehead through. I'm going to experiment some. Hopefully this weekend I should have a blade built and mounted for inspection and feedback. Thanks for the thoughts, vod!
Title: Re: Dual Vibro-Axes WIP
Post by: Cakes on Dec 22, 2015, 08:54 PM
You can use a cutting disc on your dremel to notch it and sand it, sort of like this

Cap
_________
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|__|    |__|

pole
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Title: Re: Dual Vibro-Axes WIP
Post by: Hiryu02 on Dec 23, 2015, 04:49 PM
You can use a cutting disc on your dremel to notch it and sand it, sort of like this

Cap
_________
|     __      |
|__|    |__|

pole
__      __
|   |    |   |
|   |    |   |
|   |__|   |
|             |
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I follow you, vod. I'm going to try that if my original plan doesn't work out.

Speaking of which, I got some armature wire and some leather/suede strips and also finished cutting out the base axehead pieces. Again, nothing is permanently fastened, more of a test fit type deal.

Here is the axe with the wirebase and a closeup laid over the wire.
(http://i.imgur.com/9uatldA.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/vlkJ5p3.jpg)

And here is the second axe with a test-hit "sleeve", I will probably have two sleeves on each haft, one resting inside the other, with the wire coming out of the sleeve. I also wanted the sleeve to be offset instead of perfectly aligned with the shaft, so it wasn't just a bunch of parallel shapes.

(http://i.imgur.com/hXJ7DvU.jpg)

Next step is to actually install the axehead via armature and see how it fits and feels.Also need to create the inner sleeve and start thinking about details for the paintjob and also what greeblies to stall.

Thanks for the feedback and suggestions!
Title: Re: Dual Vibro-Axes WIP
Post by: Malek Dair on Dec 23, 2015, 05:43 PM
Those look great vod! Love how these are shaping up so far!

Oya!
Title: Re: Dual Vibro-Axes WIP
Post by: Cakes on Dec 23, 2015, 06:01 PM
Loving it! The sleeve looks fantastic and really ties it in.
Title: Re: Dual Vibro-Axes WIP
Post by: Hiryu02 on Dec 27, 2015, 05:46 PM
Made some more additions over the holiday weekend. Here is the base axeblade showing the armature threaded through the haft.

(http://i.imgur.com/L72Bc6m.jpg)

Now, I added a false inner and front edge by sanding, I also cut out some styrene pieces for the "diffusers" on the blade itself. I also made a test piece for the inner sleeve and also test-fit the "vibro-wire" and its pattern on the haft.

(http://i.imgur.com/YCc4D2N.jpg)

Again, nothing is permanently secured or glued in as of yet.

Now, the plan is to have wire running up both sides of the haft and secure it with drops of hot glue at the bend points. I'm using just regular black primary wire for this. I think having wire on both sides will make the weapon look more real, and not just plain on one side.  I'm also going to finetune the shapes of the styrene on the blade. The lower wedge-shaped piece I'm not completely satisfied with. I'm also going to mount a styrene plate peice on either side of the PVC top cap, then seal and mold it in with Apoxie sculpt. I haven't decided on a final method of securing the back end of the armature wire, I'm planning to test JB Weld-Plasticweld, and also some Aves Apoxie, plus a possible technique that involves melting the wire into the PVC. After the wire is secured I can mount the rear spike of the axeblade over the wire to hide it fully.

After that it's the power switch, rear quillon, basecoat, adding greeblies and painting in details and so on. Still brainstorming what to make the rear quillon out of and also what greeblies to add, exactly.
Title: Re: Dual Vibro-Axes WIP
Post by: Cakes on Dec 27, 2015, 08:40 PM
Lookin good vode
Title: Re: Dual Vibro-Axes WIP
Post by: Hiryu02 on Jan 02, 2016, 06:42 PM
So while waiting on weather conditions to improve so I can paint, I've started working on my rifle and pistol.

Here are some cleaned up sketches, and the pistol design I'm going for in the end is the "C" design.

(http://i.imgur.com/OuldUVF.jpg)

Here are a couple of test fits with different chamber widths, just to overall get the proportions in hand. Foam cutouts are just placeholder to give an idea of the shape.

(http://i.imgur.com/uxr3bWa.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/NE991EZ.jpg)

Now, I'd like to ask for some feedback. It's a minor thing, but I'm trying to decide on the width of the chamber. The first pic has a chamber that is about the same size as the "power core" set behind it. The second pic has a larger chamber, thus offsetting the parts in front and behind it. I'm personally leaning towards the second, larger chamber because I like breaking up straight lines in what is essentially a series of tubes. But I wanted to know what other people thought, as I prefer to have sets of eyes looking at the project other than my own.

So what do you guys think? Same-sized chamber, or oversized chamber? I look forward to any feedback.
Title: Re: Dual Vibro-Axes and Blaster Pistol WIP
Post by: Helix on Jan 02, 2016, 07:40 PM
Option 2 look better to my taste, like you said it help breaking the general tube shape (essential when working with pipe) and give it a more bulky feeling.
Title: Re: Dual Vibro-Axes and Blaster Pistol WIP
Post by: Cakes on Jan 02, 2016, 11:29 PM
I'm gonna have to go with the second one as well
Title: Re: Dual Vibro-Axes and Blaster Pistol WIP
Post by: Cin Vhe'rang on Jan 03, 2016, 02:01 AM
Hey!  Looks kinda like the Calico kit-bashes from Episode 1!  I like! :D
Title: Re: Dual Vibro-Axes and Blaster Pistol WIP
Post by: Hiryu02 on Jan 03, 2016, 08:10 PM
Worked on the blaster pistol chamber, the plan is to build up the domed side of the chamber with putty, then cut a niche in the bottom of the chamber to slot it into a small raised area in the grip, then drill through the domed area to mount the middle part of the barrel.

First I sanded off the text on the PVC dome and cut a template piece out of paper to transfer to styrene.
I used some sheet styrene fit together via a slot cut into each piece to make the "frame". The next step is to glue the frame to the base dome, then fill in and dome over the frame with Aves apoxie sculpt. After the Apoxie has cured, I will sand down the putty until I hit the frame again. This should mean that the putty dome will be even and shaped correctly.

(http://i.imgur.com/zt2l7Y3.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/cktqlfr.jpg)
Title: Re: Dual Vibro-Axes and Blaster Pistol WIP
Post by: Hiryu02 on Jan 10, 2016, 05:35 PM
Another update this week.
Now that I'm starting to work with Aves Apoxie sculpt and Plastic-Weld, daily work slows down because I prefer to wait until the sculpted putty is fully cured before I sand or add more putty.

On the blaster, I am just about finished forming and sanding the chamber's "dome":
(http://i.imgur.com/HbG1vh3.jpg)

Here is a testfit with the full chamber. I plan to cut a niche into the bottom to fit more snugly agaisnt the top of the trigger housing. The large section of barrel that is directly attached to the dome will be cut and sanded to fit the curve of the dome as well.
(http://i.imgur.com/OHhOizG.jpg)

On the axe, I glued clear plastic plates with a nice curve onto the haft midway at the endcap of the haft. These will be painted as well. The rear quillon will be sanded and shaped down to look cleaner.
I also attached a "fin" of sorts to the front handguard, mostly to breakup the pre-fab nature of the pvc shapes. I also will add a mini-pommel to the bottom of the handguard.
(http://i.imgur.com/aNrkrVS.jpg)

The quillon is built from Aves, around an armature wire core that is glued into a shaped pvc piece which will fir flush against the haft.
(http://i.imgur.com/uoHPFPC.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/0kKv0a4.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/BmNTk3Y.jpg)

The end plan is to make the quillon look less lumpy of course, and sand it down to make it symmetrical and blend it into the pvc. The intention is to make it look like a single piece of forged metal.

Now the next steps are to finish attaching any greeblies that are to be mounted before the first coat of paint. Then plan details for the sleeves and finish the greeblies on the main pommel, and I've already made some progress on the pommel.

Title: Re: Dual Vibro-Axes and Blaster Pistol WIP
Post by: Cakes on Jan 11, 2016, 05:36 PM
The dome looks pretty perfect to me vode. I'm sure your hand guard spikey thing will look just as sleek.
Title: Re: Dual Vibro-Axes and Blaster Pistol WIP
Post by: Hiryu02 on Jan 23, 2016, 09:20 PM
Some additional work completed on the blaster. Cut and sanded the niche into the chamber so it now fits flush onto the rail on top of the trigger housing. Then I trimmed and sanded one of the thicker parts of the barrel that is intended to sit against the chamber dome. I've decided not to totally smooth out all the imperfections on the dome so that when it is painted and weathered, it will have more character and a worn look to it, hopefully.

(http://i.imgur.com/dAoYjsI.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/EYiOuNT.jpg)
Title: Re: Dual Vibro-Axes and Blaster Pistol WIP
Post by: Kavryn Falco on Jan 25, 2016, 12:07 PM
It's a good start, but you'll definitely have to even up that seam where the pipe meets the bondo. It's very obvious that it's not all one piece :( You could try to sculpt an even rim all the way around, but either way it still needs work.
Title: Re: Dual Vibro-Axes and Blaster Pistol WIP
Post by: Hiryu02 on Jan 25, 2016, 06:37 PM
It's a good start, but you'll definitely have to even up that seam where the pipe meets the bondo. It's very obvious that it's not all one piece :( You could try to sculpt an even rim all the way around, but either way it still needs work.

Dear lord yes that seam is going to be taken care of, never fear! That is just a test fit. I am going to make sure all seams are clean and sanded. Thank you regardless for the observation.

Edit: Not meaning to be short, I was pressed for time. I plan to generally clean up all seams on the finished product before the basecoat. That chamber will have a nice defined seam where the apoxie meets the pvc. I do appreciate any and all feedback.
Title: Re: Dual Vibro-Axes and Blaster Pistol WIP
Post by: Kavryn Falco on Jan 25, 2016, 07:32 PM
Ah, okay, that's good then. Some people say "some imperfections" but mean "I stopped halfway", haha. Carry on ;D
Title: Re: Dual Vibro-Axes and Blaster Pistol WIP
Post by: Hiryu02 on Jan 25, 2016, 07:49 PM
Yes sir. I merely was saying that I wasnt going to sand the dome itself into perfect smoothness, for a bit of texture. The seams though as all going to be attacked and made clean, this is supposedly still a product of a modern manufacturing process. Or should that be it's the product of an old, old manufacturing process, in a galaxy far, far away?
Title: Re: Dual Vibro-Axes and Blaster Pistol WIP
Post by: Choruk Kar'ta on Apr 22, 2016, 03:02 PM
How is the Axe coming along Vod! really want to see the end product :)
Title: Re: Dual Vibro-Axes and Blaster Pistol WIP
Post by: Hiryu02 on Aug 01, 2016, 07:03 PM
Greetings vode, took a hiatus from the build for a while, but have resumed work on the kit. As I continue building and planning, I find myself looking at changes to the base design ideas due to new considerations that I had not thought about previously. In tune with my changes to my planned armor build, I have reconsidered some practical issues with the number of weapons I was planning to make.

In short, I realized that storing two melee weapons, a blaster pistol and a blaster rifle all on my person would be very unwieldy and not very practical in the end. So I have shelved the dual axes, and will instead carry only one.

I also bit the bullet and did some affixing of parts permanently, which I had been putting off, in particular the handguard on the axe.

Now, it basically needs some greeblies, a handguard end-capper and some bondo for seams and joints, then it's ready to sand and paint:

Also the grip will be wrapped with a leather strip.

(http://i.imgur.com/ZsfqA2r.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/asncmwK.jpg)

On the pistol, I have sealed the back end of the chamber and laid out are the rear chamber pieces, with extended "op rod". Still debating how far out I want the rear of the pistol to protrude. The rear end of the main barrel has been sanded to fit, but not yet affixed. I am measuring  the dimensions for a sort of carry handle/tactical rail that will join the main chamber and the middle of the barrel. Filled in screwholes and added a sort of claw pommel for weight to the handgrip:

(http://i.imgur.com/8X7LIgA.jpg)

I hope to finish the main construction on both weapons this week and have them ready to sand.
Title: Re: Vibro-Axe and Blaster Pistol WIP
Post by: Den Barren on Aug 01, 2016, 08:16 PM
Looking good vod!
Title: Re: Vibro-Axe and Blaster Pistol WIP
Post by: Hiryu02 on Aug 09, 2016, 07:55 PM
Some small updates. I started using Bondo and spot putty for the first time to seal a few seams on the blaster and axe pommel.

The blaster has the two pieces of the rear chamber mounted together, and the whole thing in turn mounted to the sealed plate on the main chamber. I also trimmed the domed portion of the rear chamber and trimmed off about a quarter of an inch to shorten the length and to break up the sameness of the dimensions of the component pieces. The rear chamber is also intentionally mounted higher on the centerline towards the upper edge of the seal, again to break up the profile and to give asymmetry to the assembly.

(http://i.imgur.com/2rwKTfK.jpg)


The pommel on the axe has the small raised edges puttied in order to close the seams and give the impression of fluting around the pommel, which is also supposed to contain the power cell that powers the weapon.

(http://i.imgur.com/m98WEVm.jpg)

Next step is to mount the charging handle to the rear of the blaster cylinder, and figure out a way to attach the rear part of the barrel to the front of the cylinder where it meets the trigger assembly as shown in earlier pictures.

On the axe, I need to find a greeblie to seal the bottom of the handguard, then it should be ready for paint.
Title: Re: Vibro-Axe and Blaster Pistol WIP
Post by: Hiryu02 on Aug 22, 2016, 12:29 PM
Some more updates on the blaster.

I decided to use a domed nut glued to the trigger assembly to act as a centering point for the large part of the barrel. I then drilled a hole in the barrel as centered as possible to fit the dome and then mounted the barrel, and sealed the nut inside the barrel with CA glue and Plastic-Weld. Then I added some plastic-weld epoxy to the underside of the barrel to fill in the gap and adhere between the barrel and trigger housing.

Shown also with a test-fit of the upper rail/fin.

(http://i.imgur.com/KggU1qR.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/lQK9qbh.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/AVc7JNU.jpg)

Will also fill in the rest of the seam between the dome itself and the barrel with Aves and sand smooth. Held off on mounting the charging handle because the protrusion might make later assembly difficult. Will probably add it last.

Now the next step is to decide on the length on the inner barrel, which will be mounted inside the larger part. Then figuring out how to add a flash suppressor to the end of the inner barrel.
Title: Re: Vibro-Axe and Blaster Pistol WIP
Post by: Hiryu02 on Sep 06, 2016, 10:32 AM
Updates from this weekend. I've been working on several parts of the the kit simultaneously, but here is my most recent progress:

Courtesy of walwart housewares, I was looking for items to use in the vein of like Star Trek laser scapels aka salt and pepper shakers and ended up with some funnels, shot glasses and a wine aerator.

(http://i.imgur.com/C66NgKt.jpg)

I will be using the wine aerator as a "flash hider". I also added aves to close the seam between the chamber dome and the barrel.

(http://i.imgur.com/MzCnGzm.jpg)

Here, I have inserted the inner barrel into the rear barrel sleeve, and affixed it with putty at the join. I padded the circumference of the gap to maintain even spacing, then used Aves to putty the join for strength and to give the appearance of a large beaded weld after sanding.

(http://i.imgur.com/yVQjs9M.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/flCtfHE.jpg)

Most of the major construction is almost done at this point for the blaster. Things left to do are to attach the flash hider, clean up seams with putty, attach the rear charging handle, attach underslung "loading lever", add final small greebs and sanding, then paint.

On the axe, I closed the opening in the bottom of the handguard with a greeblie, and attempted to prime it. However I made a mistake by using just a Rustoleum generic primer which did not adhere at all properly. I apparently needed to use a PVC-specific spraypaint. I tested a "universal bonding primer" on a scrap piece of PVC, which seems to be doing a better job.

In the meantime I spent most of Monday attempting to sand off the wrong primer and clean up the axe for the next, hopefully successful coat of primer.
Title: Re: Vibro-Axe and Blaster Pistol WIP
Post by: Hiryu02 on Sep 18, 2016, 01:33 PM
I have added the reinforcing seam to the top fin/rail.

(http://i.imgur.com/UpzUCRY.jpg)

The flash hider, rail now permanently affixed. Getting close to the end.

(http://i.imgur.com/H5tSJV1.jpg)

Painting question:

If I'm going to have it painted black as a main color, with some weathering showing where the black topcoat has "rubbed off" to expose metal beneath, is it better to go with a black coat, then highlight the wear areas with a silver or metallic paint to simulate metal peeking through.

Or should I prime in silver, black topcoat, then physically scrape off the black paint to expose the silver?
Title: Re: Vibro-Axe and Blaster Pistol WIP
Post by: Cin Vhe'rang on Sep 18, 2016, 09:39 PM
You're staring to move in a good direction with this.  It looks a bit like the Calico Rifle.

https://www.gunsamerica.com/UserImages/199/942633044/wm_2093640.jpg

*inbed removed by poster.  Image too large*
Title: Re: Vibro-Axe and Blaster Pistol WIP
Post by: Hiryu02 on Sep 18, 2016, 09:53 PM
Thank you for the kind words. Indeed the Calico guns have been mentioned in regards to the pistol in particular. Strangely enough I had not heard of them until they were mentioned to me here, and I looked them up after and I agree that the helical cylinder mags are very striking visually and I definitely see the similarities to my WIP, especially in the side-on profile. I'm just hoping to have a design that has visual cues to real-world weapons, like the cylindrical chamber, and soon to be added underbarrel loading lever, but have Swarzy touches, like the rear half of the chamber being a "power cell", with also a mounted charging handle coming out of the cell. Plus what I hope is a sleek, sci-fi looking toprail or fin, plus a non-retangular flash hider.

Really looking forward to finishing the last few main construction details, getting some bondo in the right spots and seeing what she looks like under a black satin topcoat. I hope she comes out looking Swarzy, at the least.
Title: Re: Vibro-Axe and Blaster Pistol WIP
Post by: Cakes on Dec 14, 2016, 09:11 PM
That looks fantastic! Definitely has a swarzy feel
Title: Re: Vibro-Axe and Blaster Pistol WIP
Post by: Hiryu02 on Apr 30, 2017, 07:10 PM
I'm working on this project again, my apologies for the long delay, had a lot of IRL stuff going on and was not motivated to craft.

The Vibro-axe is still in production. I had attempted to prime it twice now, and even after scraping and sanding off the first primer job, re-primering etc, I'm still not 100% satisfied with the basecoat. I'm setting it aside for the time being.

I went back to work on the blaster and have added almost all the parts needed before basecoat. I have added the underbarrel attackment. Some mounting plates on the trigger housing for the attachment. Going to clean it up some more and add a last panel to close off the open space at the base of the underbarrel. Also I added the rear "charging handle".

(http://i.imgur.com/AGXpNXk.jpg)

After the last couple pieces are added on, it's going to be primered. I was hoping to paint this weekend, but today has been pretty much non-stop rain, so painting outdoors is a no go. Still, I'm happy to be working on this project again.
Title: Re: Vibro-Axe and Blaster Pistol WIP
Post by: The Bearded Mando on Apr 30, 2017, 09:11 PM
Blaster is looking good so far. First coat of primer will point out any issues you may have.
Title: Re: Vibro-Axe and Blaster Pistol WIP
Post by: Hiryu02 on May 02, 2017, 07:47 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/RVDdFGe.jpg)

Finished applying first basecoat. Used Krylon Fusion black satin. I'm letting it cure so this is the only pic for the time being. I do have a question however.

The spray can says to "apply additional coats BEFORE 24 hours, or AFTER 7 days".

Does this mean I have to add say my second basecoat by this time tomorrow, otherwise wait a week? Can I ignore this direction? I was planning to work on it more this weekend, but that's within neither of the parameters.

The plan is a 2nd black coat, then silver layer over the black, then mustard to highlight and scrape off, then black again. Do I even need the 2nd black coat? I see a couple think spots, but then silver over that should cover, right?
Title: Re: Vibro-Axe and Blaster Pistol WIP
Post by: Darth_Vemon on May 02, 2017, 09:36 PM
I generally ignore those directions.
Title: Re: Vibro-Axe and Blaster Pistol WIP
Post by: Hiryu02 on May 02, 2017, 09:46 PM
I generally ignore those directions.

Ok, cool. I get nervous when I'm working with stuff I'm unfamiliar with and I worry about messing it up by not following directions. Thanks for the info.
Title: Re: Vibro-Axe and Blaster Pistol WIP
Post by: Den Barren on May 03, 2017, 12:01 AM


That blaster is looking awesome vod!
Ok, cool. I get nervous when I'm working with stuff I'm unfamiliar with and I worry about messing it up by not following directions. Thanks for the info.

I typically ignore that specific part of the directions. Usually, you can apply a second coat 30min-1hr apart and be fine.
Title: Re: Vibro-Axe and Blaster Pistol WIP
Post by: Hiryu02 on May 03, 2017, 12:52 AM

That blaster is looking awesome vod!
I typically ignore that specific part of the directions. Usually, you can apply a second coat 30min-1hr apart and be fine.

Thanks man. Yeah, I'm going to not touch it again probably til the weekend. Also have a scrap piece I'm going to test two types of metallic silver on tomorrow probably.

I tend to work on things days apart, one day this piece, the next a different one. So I was reading the instruction and like, what? tomorrow it's going to be bondoing the edge of a vibro-blade for cleanup and gap fill, then sanding a faux edge bevel onto it.

Grats on OM btw, last time I was here you were still working on the set. Good stuff!
Title: Re: Vibro-Axe and Blaster Pistol WIP
Post by: Hiryu02 on May 06, 2017, 07:06 PM
Painted the silver layer today, going to hit it with the mustard/toothpaste technique for creating wear spots. Will let it cure overnight before I do that, if things go easy tomorrow, I'll finish applying wear spots and get a 2nd black topcoat over the blaster.

Before:
(http://i.imgur.com/grkU6Sm.jpg)

After:
(http://i.imgur.com/MtiFfwO.jpg)

Also, I bondo-ed up the edges and some uneven spots on the tip of what is going to be my wrist blade, started sanding.
(http://i.imgur.com/0pmwF6X.jpg)
Title: Re: Vibro-Axe and Blaster Pistol WIP
Post by: Hiryu02 on May 14, 2017, 08:27 PM
Small update, I added a clearcoat, then mustard weathering on top.  It is painted over again with Krylon Fusion Black and is curing again right now, will wipe off the mustard to create the paint chip look tomorrow after it cures  overnight.

(http://i.imgur.com/7Sbrb6X.jpg)

However, I just realized that other than this photo, I don't remember ALL the spots the mustard is on, and it's pretty subtle in quite a few places so I might actually forget where all the weathering is that I need to was/scrape off....whoops.

On another note, do I actually scrape it off with a tool? Or use like a wet rag or paper towel?
Title: Re: Vibro-Axe and Blaster Pistol WIP
Post by: Hiryu02 on May 16, 2017, 04:26 PM
Here is how the gun came out initially after topcoating and removing the mustard weathering. I definitely went easy on the number of wear spots, but I can always add more later on by hand with some silver paint. Less is more I think to start this project.

(http://i.imgur.com/PqZQM6g.jpg)
Title: Re: Vibro-Axe and Blaster Pistol WIP
Post by: Durkev Zandar on Jan 27, 2018, 07:11 AM
great scratchbuilt, hows the vibro?
Title: Re: Vibro-Axe and Blaster Pistol WIP
Post by: spideyplumhead on Jan 27, 2018, 07:32 AM
wow blaster and axe are looking great ...got to love scratch builds
Title: Re: Vibro-Axe and Blaster Pistol WIP
Post by: Hiryu02 on Jan 27, 2018, 12:13 PM
Thank you. I have been very busy with new job and recovering from flu, so the weapons haven't been worked on recently. The kit itself is now wearable and I'm going to plan app pics soon.

The blaster just needs some more weathering and silver highlights, both of which I luckily learned techniques for during the kit build. Then afterward it just needs a final clearcoat before its ready.

Vibro axe I will have to resand down to bare plastic again because I primered it with the wrong type of primer twice now. However again since I learned a lot from the finishing work on the kit im confident in getting it right the third time. Just have to wait for the weather to start cooperating so I can get back to work. Thank you for the kind words.
Title: Re: Vibro-Axe and Blaster Pistol WIP
Post by: Hiryu02 on Mar 24, 2018, 12:35 PM
Finally got a chance to sit down and look over my old WIP's. Work and life have been very busy, and I finally attended a con in kit for the first time!

I did in fact finish the blaster pistol and it is now in a carryable/troopable state. I made a temporary holster to carry it around the con. The gauntlet vibroblade and gaunt is also finished and the blade slides in and out and locks safely. I used a swiffer extending rod for the core. More details on the vibroblade build here: https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/index.php?topic=118984.msg1773393#msg1773393

(https://i.imgur.com/LlkOA3E.jpg)
Title: Re: Vibro-Axe and Blaster Pistol WIP
Post by: Durkev Zandar on Jun 30, 2020, 08:03 AM
Amazing! :like:
Title: Re: Vibro-Axe and Blaster Pistol WIP
Post by: Hiryu02 on Jun 30, 2020, 12:43 PM
Thanks vod. It's been a long time since this build and I've upgraded some pieces since then, but I appreciate the kind words!