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Title: Scully WIP (first armor)
Post by: michaeljscully on Apr 04, 2017, 10:12 AM
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There's a lot of work left to do, but I'm probably going to start cutting the armor this weekend and get the hard pieces under way. I'm still figuring out the best way to make the remaining soft pieces like the flak jacket and girth belt.

Any insight is appreciated!
Title: Re: Scully WIP (first armor)
Post by: Havelock on Apr 04, 2017, 12:22 PM
You can find a really good Girth Belt tutorial here (http://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/index.php?topic=62774.0), and a good flak vest tutorial here (http://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/index.php?topic=63411.0). 
Title: Re: Scully WIP (first armor)
Post by: michaeljscully on Apr 04, 2017, 12:26 PM
Thanks for the tutorials! Should be interesting making the flak jacket - I've never sewed anything before. Do you recommend going ahead with the armor first, or do you need to have the soft pieces done first to fit them properly?
Title: Re: Scully WIP (first armor)
Post by: Havelock on Apr 04, 2017, 01:06 PM
You can do it either way.  You'll definitely need your flight suit and flak vest squared away before final sizing and placement of your plates, but you can go ahead and start working on them if you'd like.  Print up some paper templates, get them cut out and taped to you and we can check the sizing for you. 

Your flight suit and flak vest will definitely bulk you out a bit, which will affect the sizing of the plates.  Which is why a lot of people recommend that you leave a bit of extra.  It's a lot easier to take off some sintra than trying to add some.
Title: Re: Scully WIP (first armor)
Post by: michaeljscully on Apr 04, 2017, 01:19 PM
Cool, thank you! I have the paper templates already cut, I just need to take some pictures with them taped on.
Title: Re: Scully WIP (first armor)
Post by: michaeljscully on Apr 07, 2017, 10:11 PM
Just taped up the paper templates to the flight suit. I know I'm going to tailor the flight suit since it's a little long in the arms and legs, but can you guys see anything I'd have to tweak?

(https://i.imgur.com/tt5p8EV.jpg)
Title: Re: Scully WIP (first armor)
Post by: Havelock on Apr 07, 2017, 10:17 PM
Your plates look a bit wide.  If you can get someone to take a straight-on picture, that'll help a lot.  It looks like the collar plate would get raised, shifted, and moved around whenever you raise your arms, and the chest plates look like they'd poke you if you tried to touch your shoulder with the opposite hand.  That being said, this shouldn't require a whole lot of trimming to be good to go, especially since you probably want to have your actual plates a bit wide to start with, and trim them to fit.

Vertically, the bottom of the ab plate should be sitting right around your navel to no more than an inch above it.  It's hard to tell with the flight suit where your belly button is, but just looking at it, you seem to be ok, vertically.

You're off to a great start, vod.
Title: Re: Scully WIP (first armor)
Post by: michaeljscully on Apr 07, 2017, 10:26 PM
Thanks, man! I'm going to check that out tomorrow and make some adjustments. Then finally the cutting!
Title: Re: Scully WIP (first armor)
Post by: michaeljscully on Jun 05, 2017, 12:18 AM
Hey guys! After couple of false starts and a lot of practice with a rotary tool, I finally have most of my plates cut. I'm sourcing materials for a flak jacket right now, once that's made, I'll heat and mold the armor pieces. But I have pics below, so tell me what you think!
(http://i.imgur.com/JK87Rmd.jpg)
Title: Re: Scully WIP (first armor)
Post by: Havelock on Jun 05, 2017, 12:52 AM
Cool.  Let's see them on you.  :)
Title: Re: Scully WIP (first armor)
Post by: michaeljscully on Jun 22, 2017, 04:17 PM
Quick update: since the weather isn't cooperating with me to finish the armor, I'm starting to tailor the flight suit.

I like it with more of a slim fit, so I have a good bit to cut off. This is my first time sewing anything, so it should be interesting.

(https://i.imgur.com/A3Zy00z.jpg)

I'll post more pics as I go!
Title: Re: Scully WIP (first armor)
Post by: Kryamla Redalur on Jun 23, 2017, 03:45 PM
Cool.  Let's see them on you.  :)

Great progress so far! But I agree with havelock, let's see those plates on ya!
Title: Re: Scully WIP (first armor)
Post by: michaeljscully on Jun 24, 2017, 07:59 PM
Got my plates shaped today! Still need to cut out the kneepads, gauntlets, and back plate, but I'm pretty pleased with where I got to today.

And yes, soon as I get a free moment I'll get a pic of them on for you guys. Here's a progress pic in the meantime!

(http://i.imgur.com/2jFeK2U.jpg)
Title: Re: Scully WIP (first armor)
Post by: michaeljscully on Jun 24, 2017, 11:36 PM
Ok, took a while but I got the torso plates test fitted. I'm starting to notice a few places that need work, but I'd love to hear what you guys think!

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Title: Re: Scully WIP (first armor)
Post by: Kryamla Redalur on Jun 25, 2017, 12:32 AM
Nice progress!

It does look like your chest plates need to be shifted up however. The collar should almost be choking you and the rest of the plates should be moved up to follow. Remember to keep about a thumbs width apart :)

It does look like the plates are a touch too wide but I'd like to see everything moved up before I recommend trimming anything.
Title: Re: Scully WIP (first armor)
Post by: michaeljscully on Jun 25, 2017, 12:35 AM
Thanks! The tape kept sliding down, so it's definitely lower than it should be. I think that's what's making the shape seem a bit off. Going to give that another shot with it shifted higher and see if that helps.
Title: Re: Scully WIP (first armor)
Post by: Omega on Jun 25, 2017, 11:50 AM
Nice progress!

It does look like your chest plates need to be shifted up however. The collar should almost be choking you and the rest of the plates should be moved up to follow. Remember to keep about a thumbs width apart :)

It does look like the plates are a touch too wide but I'd like to see everything moved up before I recommend trimming anything.

What she said. lol
Title: Re: Scully WIP (first armor)
Post by: Kryamla Redalur on Jun 26, 2017, 12:47 PM
Thanks! The tape kept sliding down, so it's definitely lower than it should be. I think that's what's making the shape seem a bit off. Going to give that another shot with it shifted higher and see if that helps.

Yeah tape will do that! lol can't wait to see those pictures :)
Title: Re: Scully WIP (first armor)
Post by: ShadowRex on Jul 04, 2017, 07:53 AM
Really looking forward to seeing the design come to life! #teamcape for the win!

And yes to what has been said prior: Tape slips all over when attempting to photo yourself. Find a friend to snap a few shots for you!

Tailoring the flightsuit: Don't take it in so much you can't bend without fear of a split seam on legs,, hind end, etc. or that you can't get out of it yourself. Having had to cut someone out of one...

Spacing: Triple agreement here.
If you have someone not in the know assisting you, maybe trim a bit of leftover sintra down to use like a tile spacer when taping the plates on. The assistant can refer to that and help position the plates better. Make a smaller one for the spacing around the chest diamond. And yes to the 'IF the collar plate isn't at the I think I'm about to get choked' position, it should come up a bit more. ;)
Title: Re: Scully WIP (first armor)
Post by: michaeljscully on Jul 24, 2017, 02:56 PM
Hey guys! I took your advice and fixed up the chest pieces—turns out I hadn't included the curve on the outside edges, and that’s why it looked too wide. Finished the knees and the back piece with some help, and primed and started the silver layer yesterday. Weather permitting, I'm going to try to get some more painting done today.

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Title: Re: Scully WIP (first armor)
Post by: michaeljscully on Aug 03, 2017, 08:23 PM
Hey guys! Made some progress on the paint job this week, so I wanted to share it with you guys. I have all the white pieces done to the point where I need to start weathering, and I just finished most of the gold pieces.

The gold paint is still drying, so I haven't completely removed the masking yet, but should be interesting. Let me know what you think!

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Title: Re: Scully WIP (first armor)
Post by: Anansi on Aug 04, 2017, 12:36 PM
That looks really good, really genuine. Looks like someone with a slugthrower tried really hard to take you down.
Title: Re: Scully WIP (first armor)
Post by: michaeljscully on Aug 04, 2017, 12:41 PM
I get knocked down, but I get back up again.

Thanks! I studied a lot of weathering, took a lot of reference photos, I'm pretty happy with the way it turned out.
Title: Re: Scully WIP (first armor)
Post by: michaeljscully on Aug 16, 2017, 09:48 AM
Finished painting the rest of my armor! Next up, black wash. Started on my sidearm holster as well. After a trip to the store, I'm going to attach the pieces.

I've heard a lot of methods to attach them, what's worked for you?

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Title: Re: Scully WIP (first armor)
Post by: Kryamla Redalur on Aug 16, 2017, 03:37 PM
For my armor, I use Velcro. I like that I can adjust if needed. Some people hate thag attachment method because you can move things around and use snaps or magnets. There is no right or wrong to do it so it's up to you :)
Title: Re: Scully WIP (first armor)
Post by: Vor'en Marr on Aug 16, 2017, 04:30 PM
Hey Vod, looking good.
For some finer detail, take some fine grit sandpaper to further feather the scratches you have received in battle  :P

I can see a little paint run in your right knee. Use some there :)
Title: Re: Scully WIP (first armor)
Post by: michaeljscully on Aug 17, 2017, 12:32 PM
Thanks for the help, guys! Doing this over the weekend, and hopefully getting it mounted on the flight suit/flak vest shortly thereafter.
Title: Re: Scully WIP (first armor)
Post by: michaeljscully on Aug 19, 2017, 12:17 AM
Hey guys! I took your advice and scuffed up the exposed metal with sandpaper, then gave it a black wash.

A comparison shot of before and after dirtying it up. The piece on the right is getting a red Mythosaur on it this weekend, so no dirt for him yet.
(http://i.imgur.com/mmIRShg.jpg)

Before and after shins:
(http://i.imgur.com/CGCvBk8.jpg)

The full layout of everything I've built so far. I'm replacing the white sash with a red one, but I wanted to have something for the picture.
(http://i.imgur.com/kNPZT04.jpg)
Title: Re: Scully WIP (first armor)
Post by: michaeljscully on Aug 25, 2017, 11:00 PM
Got my gauntlets most of the way there today—after two botched attempts at making them from sintra, I got a couple of Wal-Mart-brand toilet brush holders and converted those. Didn't need the piano hinge because I can slip my hands in and out, but I ended up cutting out and section to give my elbows some mobility.

Next step is to hit them with some black wash, and I think that'll do it.

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Title: Re: Scully WIP (first armor)
Post by: Boxception on Aug 27, 2017, 12:21 AM
nice work with the paint and black wash... did a good job with your gauntlets. If your looking for simplicity you could add some little greeblies or wires to them. Otherwise i like where this is going. ohhh dont forget to make sure your soft goods are weathered consistently with your armor weathering (goes for your belt and boots too)
Title: Re: Scully WIP (first armor)
Post by: ShadowRex on Sep 14, 2017, 12:49 PM
Woot woot!!! Progress is being made!

Feed the WIP hungry Ruus!
Title: Re: Scully WIP (first armor)
Post by: Vhekadla Yustapir on Sep 20, 2017, 06:36 PM
I'm with Mama Rex. I know I've seen your kit further along than this ner vod! You've got some dragoncon photos in there somewhere. :laugh:
Title: Re: Scully WIP (first armor)
Post by: michaeljscully on Sep 21, 2017, 01:58 AM
I have exactly two... I've been searching for photos but this is all I can find. I didn't have a photographer with me, so I'm having to scrounge around for other people's photos.

(https://i.imgur.com/4RsymtC.jpg)
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Title: Re: Scully WIP (first armor)
Post by: michaeljscully on Jan 26, 2018, 03:18 PM
Took a few months, but I finally have an update!

Actually wearing the suit at Dragon Con made me realize I had some changes to make—so now I'm taking my time to get it right. I ended up doing a few things to get it closer to what I'm thinking of.

- Reshaped the left thigh plate, it wasn't curved enough to stay on
- Brown wash over the boot plates, shins, gauntlets, and knees (really trying to gunk it up like I had to fight in dirt or mud)
- Added elastic straps to the shin plates to hold them on
- I'm adding straps to the codpiece to hold it on
- I'm adding sew-on Velcro to the vest to keep everything on

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Title: Re: Scully WIP (first armor)
Post by: Havelock on Jan 26, 2018, 03:48 PM
Looking really nice, vod.
Title: Re: Scully WIP (first armor)
Post by: michaeljscully on Jan 26, 2018, 04:32 PM
Thank you!
Title: Re: Scully WIP (first armor)
Post by: michaeljscully on Jan 28, 2018, 01:54 PM
Had a question for anybody who might know—what's the best way to attach Jango-style thigh armor and shin armor? I have elastic that matches my flight suit nearly exactly, but I wasn't sure if that would be approvable?

Can I use color-matched elastic, and if so can it be visible or do I have to cut a slit in the flight suit and hide it?

I have pistol holsters on both side with leg straps, and I'm thinking about adding some kind of spats or boot covers for the shin plates.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Scully WIP (first armor)
Post by: Havelock on Jan 28, 2018, 03:24 PM
My thighs and shins are held in place with velcro, and so far it seems to do the job.  As the fabric on my flight suit isn't skin tight, there's a certain amount of movement.  If you'd like to eliminate that, and keep your thigh plates from moving, then you can certainly add elastic.  You'll want to run the elastic under your flight suit so it's not visible, though.

For the shins, you can use color-matched elastic on the outside of the boots or spats.  But if you go with spats, and they sit fairly snug on your legs, you shouldn't need it, but again, are welcome to use it.  Or you can run it on the inside of the spat to better match the aesthetic of the thigh plates. 
Title: Re: Scully WIP (first armor)
Post by: michaeljscully on Jan 28, 2018, 05:49 PM
Thanks Havelock! I think just the Velcro will work on the thigh plates as long as I use the leg straps for the holsters to keep them from moving too much.

So the elastic is ok to show on the shin plates if it matches? That works great, because I found elastic that matches the flight suit really closely.

Thanks again for the help!
Title: Re: Scully WIP (first armor)
Post by: Havelock on Jan 28, 2018, 06:28 PM
Any time.
Title: Re: Scully WIP (first armor)
Post by: Kris Jasra on Jan 29, 2018, 06:25 AM
So the elastic is ok to show on the shin plates if it matches? That works great, because I found elastic that matches the flight suit really closely.

Colour matched elastic is allowed in the following places only: knees, elbows and under boots. You can also use elastic on a Boba thong. All other elastic must be hidden by running it through the flightsuit or by covering it with a fabric/leather sheath.

It usually works best to have two separate methods of attachment if you can rather than just one, (although lighter materials such as sintra may only need the one). Velcro, strapping round the leg and drop leg strapping from a belt are the usual three ways of keeping thighs in place. Strapping round the leg and velcro are the usual for shins if you do not have boots/spats which you can mount the armour directly to.
Title: Re: Scully WIP (first armor)
Post by: michaeljscully on Jan 29, 2018, 06:38 AM
Thanks for the clarification, Kris!

In that case I'll probably make spats or boot covers for the shin plates.

I keep going back and forth on whether to use thigh plates, but since it's Sintra, seems like Velcro and the holster straps should be enough to keep it in place.
Title: Re: Scully WIP (first armor)
Post by: Havelock on Jan 29, 2018, 06:55 AM
My apologies.  I apparently confuse boot plates with shin plates.  I'm sorry for passing my confusion to you.
Title: Re: Scully WIP (first armor)
Post by: michaeljscully on Jan 29, 2018, 07:10 AM
No worries man! You're online giving advice before sunrise, I think everyone gets a mulligan for that.
Title: Re: Scully WIP (first armor)
Post by: Malakier Vhett on Jan 29, 2018, 01:38 PM
Don't have anything to add really, just commenting to follow and say keep it up!
Title: Re: Scully WIP (first armor)
Post by: ShadowRex on Jan 31, 2018, 02:48 PM
Rex'buir would like some comprehensive photos, ad'ika.

#40 might get something special from me. ;)
Title: Re: Scully WIP (first armor)
Post by: michaeljscully on Jan 31, 2018, 03:06 PM
Soon as I reattach the plates to the vest, you got it! I'm trying to go out today to get sew-in velcro.

Although I think some rolled-up duct tape might be enough to hold it on for a photo...
Title: Re: Scully WIP (first armor)
Post by: michaeljscully on Feb 05, 2018, 09:50 AM
I'll probably have an update for this by next week, ended up not being able to go on a supply run, but I can this weekend most likely.
Title: Re: Scully WIP (first armor)
Post by: Havelock on Feb 05, 2018, 10:26 AM
Looking forward to it.
Title: Re: Scully WIP (first armor)
Post by: michaeljscully on Jul 23, 2019, 02:23 PM
Not sure if I can post in this thread, but I have some updates!

My knees were too big and kept sliding off, so I ended up 3D printing April Storm's Death Watch knees. I eyeballed it, but it turned out the right size!

(https://i.imgur.com/kEZ4Tei.jpg)

Next step is filler primer, painting, and battle damage.
Title: Re: Scully WIP (first armor)
Post by: Omega on Jul 27, 2019, 05:04 PM
Progress!
Title: Re: Scully WIP (first armor)
Post by: Kryamla Redalur on Jul 30, 2019, 01:54 PM
Nice! Those look similar to what I use for my Bo-Katan :)