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Mandalorian Armor => Helmets => Topic started by: Hondo Karr on May 09, 2009, 04:24 AM

Title: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answered Qs
Post by: Hondo Karr on May 09, 2009, 04:24 AM
we get alot of questions here about helmet sizes, qualities etc. many of us that have been around a bit have answered the same questons many times. so, i thought i'd take the time and my most recent helmet related post and make a brief "tutorial" on helmet sizing and quality.

if you go to the trading forum, you'll see gypyboy is doing mando helmets for about 80.00. just have to wait for the next run. also, icktan westdar is preping runs of a custom mando-commando helmet for about the same cost. if you want a fett style, sgt. fang over at tdh has cleaned up the old "mystery helmet" and is making continuos orders on those for about 100.00

if it's a funds issue, i would recommend you save a bit longer and invest in th better helmet to start with( a rubies 1 piece jango will cost you 60.00-80.00 shipped). many of us "old timers" here have made the mistake of continuos upgrades to our helmets.... 3-5 helmets, hundreds of dollars and tons of time later we ended up with marrow suns, boba makers, gypsyboys, sgt. fangs etc. i personally am on my 5th helmet, although my 2nd was a keeper it was retired. i currently have a gypsyboy boba i modded and i love it. it's full movie sized and well built.

just my personal opinion here however, most will agree...
boba 1 piece boba: good for young kids only
jango 1 and 2 piece: good for petite to medium women, children and petite men
don post 95-96: good for med or larger women and medium framed men
if you dont fall into on of those, you'll need a movie sized helmet which would be gypsyboy, sgt. fang, boba maker or the wizard of flight templates (for those who wish to make there own).
if you are especially large framed, there is 1 maker of jango fett helmets that makes a helmet that's about 10% larger than the 1:1 helmets. i don't know the maker off hand however, i have a friend with one and i can obtain that info for you if you pm me.

another thing to consider is that the helmet should look slightly large compared to your body if you put it on out of armor. wearing the armor adds alot of size to your frame. so, if you get a helmet that looks proportionat to your body out of armor, youll look likea pellet head in armor. while you shouldnt look like a funko bobblehead with it on out of armor, you should look like you're getting there.

Here is a side x side comparison of buckets and sizes:
left to right...
rubies 1 piece boba, rubies 1 piece jango, rubies 2 piece jango, don post 95, gypsyboy (the one on the end is a rohlan dyre type crusader era helmet)
(http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k201/PJR_76/Armor/IMG_0754.jpg)

Courtosey of Taglar Dressk. Gypsyboy vrs. Rubies 1 piece Jango Fett.
(http://bigjononline.com/photo/albums/cos_newhelm/normal_0517092256.jpg)
(http://bigjononline.com/photo/albums/cos_newhelm/normal_0517092107.jpg)
(http://bigjononline.com/photo/albums/cos_newhelm/normal_0517092257a.jpg)
(http://bigjononline.com/photo/albums/cos_newhelm/normal_0517092257b.jpg)

to give you an idea of how the helmet looks in relation to the armor for accurate sizing, here's some pix pf me in my armor:

1st helmet, rubies 1 piece. my chin hangs out the bottom and the helmet looks small compared to the armor
(http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k201/PJR_76/Armor/0208081515.jpg)

3rd helmet, don post 95. helmet size is a bit better but, still small compared to the armor. my chin doesn't hang out anymore but, my face is smooshed against the visor and to get the front to cover the chin, the helmet is tilted so far forward, that the back of my neck is exposed
(http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k201/PJR_76/Armor/IMG_0322.jpg)

current helmet, gypsyboy 1:1 movie accurate size. proper fit and proper size ratio to armor
(http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k201/PJR_76/Armor/IMG_0704.jpg)

here is a pic of my oldest son in a rubies 1 piece (9 years old)
(http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k201/PJR_76/Armor/IMG_0516.jpg)

my youngest son in a rubies jango 1 piece (6 years old)
(http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k201/PJR_76/Armor/IMG_0399.jpg)

my gf's son in a rubies 2 piece (7 years old)
(http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k201/PJR_76/Armor/IMG_0666.jpg)

my brother in a rubies 1 piece boba, notice how small the helmet/head looks compared to his body (dont mind the rubbish plates they're way to small as well!) his head was lierally smashed into that helmet!
(http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k201/PJR_76/Armor/IMG_0530.jpg)

my brother in his upgraded armor with (my old) don post 95 helmet. size ratio corrected. he's a medium build adult 5'10 180lbs.
(http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k201/PJR_76/Armor/0131091322.jpg)

At the end of the day, you can get a quality resin helmet for only a bit more than a latex helmet that will warp with heat. a quality fiberglass helmet will cost nearly double that of a resin helmet and a really nice cold cost helmet made wih aluminum powder (so you can buff it silver for your base coat) can cost up to and over 300.00. for most costumers, especially customs, i would recommend the resin 1:1 helmets.

i hope this helps with your helmet sizing options!
Title: Re: helmet sizing tutorial.
Post by: Drago Seron on May 09, 2009, 05:10 AM
This is a great tutorial A'den. Having the pictures for reference really helps for a comparison. Thanks.
Title: Re: helmet sizing tutorial.
Post by: Riya Morut on May 09, 2009, 12:05 PM
Thanks, vod!  This was helpful.
Title: Re: helmet sizing tutorial.
Post by: Pape on May 12, 2009, 12:14 AM
I'm currently looking at buckets for my upcoming mando and this has helped greatly, but is there any chance of one favour ...

Shots from the side comparing size that way.  I have a long head and I fit nicely into a rubies 2 piece and a don post 95, but I want something a little better then those, one of GB's ones.

Is there any chance you could take a shot of them from the side, specifically the DP 95 next to GB?

Thanks for the help and fantastic thread!
Title: Re: helmet sizing tutorial.
Post by: Hondo Karr on May 12, 2009, 12:23 AM
I'm currently looking at buckets for my upcoming mando and this has helped greatly, but is there any chance of one favour ...

Shots from the side comparing size that way.  I have a long head and I fit nicely into a rubies 2 piece and a don post 95, but I want something a little better then those, one of GB's ones.

Is there any chance you could take a shot of them from the side, specifically the DP 95 next to GB?

Thanks for the help and fantastic thread!

I never even thought of that! I can get to it in a day or two. I'll add the pix to the original post.

I can tell you though, my nose was smooshed against the visor on the DP95 and on the GB, it doesn't even touch it.
Title: Re: helmet sizing tutorial.
Post by: Xorim Kor on May 12, 2009, 03:59 AM
Not to hijack A'den's thread, but here are a few comparison shots Talon clan took at our latest armor party.

Rubies 1piece, Gypsyboy, Bobamaker (in that order)

(http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x201/cwduncan3/Armor%20Party%205-9-09/100_0343.jpg)

(http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x201/cwduncan3/Armor%20Party%205-9-09/100_0345.jpg)

Charlie

Title: Re: helmet sizing tutorial.
Post by: Pape on May 12, 2009, 07:25 AM
possibly a shot from under the buckets, i want a GB, but im not sure if my head will fit lol ... a long head sucks at times
Title: Re: helmet sizing tutorial.
Post by: Taglar Dreskk on May 12, 2009, 08:56 AM
Nice work guys!  Added to helmet info thread under new title "helmet size comparisons"
Title: Re: helmet sizing tutorial.
Post by: Hondo Karr on Jun 12, 2009, 06:40 PM
To add to this...

Best quality Vs. best price for custom builders... go with the Gypsyboy or Sgt. Fang resin helmets. Even if they are a bit tall for you, you can do as Taglar did... mark the helmet off and simply cut excess height off of the bottom of the helmet.

No helmet is perfect. All materials have their flaws... vinyl and plastic helmets can warp/deform in heat, seals on 2 piece helmets can crack and come undone over time, resin can break/crack and fiberglass can as well.

I think most people are careful with their buckets, more so than the rest of their kit. However, accidents happen. The nice thing about resin and fiberglass helmets (I reviewed no FB glass helmets as they run near $300.00 and up and are built to be movie replica's of the Fett's, they're more cost than value to custom Mando builders) is if they break, they are easily repaired. Vinyle and plastic buckets not so much do to their flimsy design. Any "hard" compounds you use to repair them can/will crack away from teh rest of the helmet if the conditions are right.

I said go Gypsyboy or Sgt. Fang. Gypsyboy is local, here on Mercs. We should support our own. Sgt. Fang is on TDH and while I've contacted him several times to try to get him to set up shop here, he hasn't to date. Gypsyboy beats Sgt. Fang on price by about 1/4 of the total cost. Also, from what I've seen in pix, Gypsyboy's helmets are thicker, thus more durable, than Sgt. Fang's. The one advantage Sgt. Fang offers over Gypsyboy is speed of availablility. For a Gypsyboy, you need to get on a run list and could be made to wait for a helmet. Sgt. Fang currently has a stock of helmets ready to go and, even when  those are depleted, he does helmets on a per order basis. You don't have to wait for a run.

I hope this helps all those looking for a new or first helmet!
Title: Re: helmet sizing tutorial.
Post by: Riya Morut on Jun 12, 2009, 09:36 PM
Okay, here's a question for all the folks with glasses...I am a very petite female (just under 5'), but I'm going to need a helmet that leaves room for my hair and glasses.  I measured around my head with the hair done up right and the glasses on and got about 26" (that's with a little wiggle room).  Which of these would probably fit the best?  And do any of them cause problems with your glasses when you take them on and off?
Title: Re: helmet sizing tutorial.
Post by: Hondo Karr on Jun 12, 2009, 10:15 PM
i know in gypsyboys thread, he put dimensions of his helmet after receiving several requests. i wear my contacts when i wear my bucket  but, i know not all can do that. many i know just go without and hope for the best! i know of at least 1 fett over at tdh that took and old pair of glasses and actually permanatly installed them into the interior of his helmet so when he puts his helmet on he's looking right through hs glasses and out the visor.

here's a pic. not very big but, you can see the glasses mounted inside.

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Title: Re: helmet sizing tutorial.
Post by: Olos'nay on Jun 13, 2009, 01:33 AM
Okay, here's a question for all the folks with glasses...I am a very petite female (just under 5'), but I'm going to need a helmet that leaves room for my hair and glasses.  I measured around my head with the hair done up right and the glasses on and got about 26" (that's with a little wiggle room).  Which of these would probably fit the best?  And do any of them cause problems with your glasses when you take them on and off?

I cannot say for the others, but I can tell you it is impossible on anything equal or smaller then the Don Post to fit glasses. That's how I ended up having my DP: my friend got tired of not being able to wear glasses in conventions.

in facts, I had to adjust the padding and general shape of the DP to fit in a somewhat confortable manner... its not exactly big.

(if this bit of info helps...)
Title: Re: helmet sizing tutorial.
Post by: Riya Morut on Jun 13, 2009, 11:52 PM
i know in gypsyboys thread, he put dimensions of his helmet after receiving several requests.

Any chance you could find the link?  I looked but couldn't find it. 

I've seriously been considering contacts (and not just for the Mercs; trying to march a halftime show with fogged-up lenses is no fun), but I know there are plenty of people who can't.  Thanks for the responses!
Title: Re: helmet sizing tutorial.
Post by: Olos'nay on Jun 14, 2009, 01:46 AM
I wore glasses since I was 5 yr old (no joke) - always hated it. My teachers had to force me to wear them.

Now I have lens. I don't love it, but its better then the glasses in my opinion. just gotta get used to it.

you can always alternate between the both.

its very useful for costuming, sporting, dating, etc... lol.

(I'm dead serious about sports - I became instantly better in mosts sports without my glasses, as what makes that you see better also displace the perceived position of what you see, so for most sports you are disadvantaged with the glasses while lens correct it not in front, but within your eyes.)
Title: Re: helmet sizing tutorial.
Post by: Anja Kad'la on Jun 17, 2009, 05:35 PM
Does anyone have a comparison between the Bobamaker and 2 piece Jango?

 I recently got the 2 piece Jango because I wasn't sure on the sizing and figured I could use it for size comparison if it didn't fit. I know it's supposed to look a bit big without armor, but I still feel it is way too roomy inside.  I could go with the one piece rubies, although I think that might be too small. Looking at the photos it looks as if the bobamaker is an in between size. Is this right?
Title: Re: helmet sizing tutorial.
Post by: Taglar Dreskk on Jun 17, 2009, 09:13 PM
Bobamaker is a 1:1 like Sgt Fang and Gypsyboy.
Title: Re: helmet sizing tutorial.
Post by: Hondo Karr on Jun 18, 2009, 11:46 AM
Taglar is correct... Bobamaker would be the same size as the Gypsyboy in the original pic. It's larger than the 2 piece Jango.

Not to knock BobaMaker as his Boba helmet's are truely cream of the crop. But, unless you plan to make a screen accurate Boba Fett or, you absolutly HAVE to HAVE fiberglass, cuz you're allergic to resin or something.... buying a Bobamaker instead of a Gypsyboy or Sgt. Fang is a waste of $100.00 (as that's the approx price difference) if you're building a custom Mando.

If you look at the original photo lineup I posted, it shows  from left to right 1 piece Boba (smallest), 1 piece Jango (slightly larger), 2 piece Jango (medium sized), Don Post 1995 ( large-medium), Gypsyboy (1:1 movie sized, any helmet labeled as 1:1 would be this size). Not pictured is the Cruzer/BKBT helmet which is about 10-15% larger than the 1:1 helmets and is the absolute largest you can get without scratchbuilding.

If you think the rubies 2 piece may be tetering on being to small, most likely the 1:1 helmet would be much to large. The Don Post 1995/1996 helmet may be perfect for you. You can get the Don Pos 95 or 96's on ebay from time to time or occasionally in our trading station or the cargo hold at TDH. However, you will likely spend over $100.00 for it as 1. it's a good sculpt and 2. it does have some collectors value. The main downside to this is it's a vinyl helmet and comes with all the issues that vinyl helmets have.

However, Asok is currently selling cold cast Jango Fett style helmets in the Don Post 95/96 size. He has a thread up in our trading station. Price is $140.00 shipped and turn around time is about 1 week. It's a resin helmet with aluminum powder already mixed in so you can polish it silver instead of having to paint it silver. Also, if any of your topical paint wears or chips away over time, it will show silver below instead of white. It's a complete kit, range finder, stalk, ear caps, key slots etc.

Hope that helps.
Title: Re: helmet sizing tutorial.
Post by: Anja Kad'la on Jun 18, 2009, 02:22 PM
Thanks for the help. I think the shape (less flare at the bottom?) of the Bobamaker and the picture's angle gave me the impression it was smaller than 1:1.
 In regards to the Jango 2 piece, I actually think it might be too big for me. Without armor I look a bit like a bobblehead, which would be fine but the inside just seems really roomy and would require a lot of padding.  I might have to go with the Jango 1 piece or take a bit off the bottom of the Jango 2 piece and pad it up. The elongated dome of the Rubies might have something to do with it, the Gypsyboy looks much rounder in the top view picture.
Title: Re: helmet sizing tutorial.
Post by: Hondo Karr on Jun 18, 2009, 02:47 PM
I see you're in LA. How soon are you planning on having armor complete? Do you intend to attend SDCC as either a Mando or a fan? It might be a good idea to either hook up with one of our LA Clan armor parties or if you go to SDCC, that way you can see in real life the different helmets and maybe try them on.

Again, the helmet should look slightly bobblish when you wear it out of armor. The armor will add alot of bulk to your body and will bring the helmet sizing issuing into par. Actually having alot of room inside the helmet is a good thing! It alllows for air flow. You get very hot very fast in full armor. It will also help reduce visor fogging. When you pad the helmet, use no more than you must. If you can just put a foam band around the interior crown of the helmet and that will keep it from rolling around on your head, that would be perfect. The foam band will help with sweat collection. Also, if you don't pad around the back of the head and ears, that will help keep cool.
Title: Re: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answered Qs
Post by: Hondo Karr on Jun 18, 2009, 08:04 PM
here are links to mercs members making and selling quality helmets:

here's gypsyboy's:
http://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/index.php?topic=12162.msg209374#new

here's asok's:
http://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/index.php?topic=14171.0
Title: Re: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answered Qs
Post by: Anja Kad'la on Jun 18, 2009, 08:42 PM
The help is much appreciated!  I'll definitely be taking your advice about the strategic padding, it does get really hot in there!
Title: Re: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answered Qs
Post by: Hondo Karr on Aug 27, 2009, 02:14 PM
Here's an update on this thread. I put this pic together to be added to the CRL's:
(http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k201/PJR_76/Armor/NewImage.jpg)

The top row is me.
The first pic is in my Jaing Skirata Version 1.0 armor. The helmet is a 1 piece Rubies Deluxe Jango Fett helmet. My chin hangs out of the bottom of the helmet and the helmet is far to narrow and short.
The second pic is me in my A'den 1.0 armor. It is the same armor as the Jaing set but highly modded and repainted. The helmet is a Don Post 95. The size is much better. It's close but no cigar. The helmet is still too narrow and although the chin is now covered, the back of my neck is exposed to accomplish this.
The third pic is me in my last upgrades prior to the SDCC upgrades. The helmet is a 1:1 Gypsyboy MOvie Sized helmet. The height width and length are correct for my body and armor type.

The bottom row is my brother.
The first pic is his Mereel Skirata Verison 1.0 armor. The helmet is a Rubies 1 piece Deluxe Boba Fett. The armor itself is subpar but, the helmet is clearly to small. Too narrow, to short and the chin hung out the bottom.
The second pic is my brother in his Mereel Version 2 armor. The helmet is my old Don Post 95. The helmet is now sized corectly to his body and armor. The problem with the kit at the moment is not that the helmet is too big, it's that the shoulders are too small. A much cheaper and easier fix than a new helmet.
The third pic is my brother in his MEreel kit with his SDCC upgrades. The helmet is the same Don Post 95 helmet. However, the upgrade done to balance the helmet was to dd new, wider shoulders to the kit that foucs the eye downa nd out rather than up and in.

This should be a template to use when you select the helmet for your armor and body and for when you design your armor. Regardless of your body type and size, you can find a helmet that fits you. Although I am adamantly against the Rubies 1 piece helmets, if they will fit your frame, they are the proper helmet to select. At no point have we at the MErcs or will we, unless you're build a screen accurate Fett, tell you that you have to buy a $300.00 Bobamaker helmet or a $400.00 BKBT helmet. But, we will tell you to buy the helmet that fits you best. In general, unless you are VERY small, a 1 piece Rubies or Jango will NOT work for you. In general, medium/large to large framed men NEED a 1:1 movie sized helmet. Medium framed men need something sized to the Don Post 95 or the Asok LFL Jango helmet. A smaller framed man can wear a Rubies 2 piece Jango. For woemn, most women can wear a 2 piece Jango or a Don Post 95. GEnerally a movie sized helmet will be too big. The 1 piece Rubies should really be saved for children unless you're so small that you're the exception to the rule.
Title: Re: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answered Qs
Post by: DeltaSquadBoss on Aug 28, 2009, 02:53 PM
This is GREAT stuff.  I love that you have taken the time to make sure all VODE are getting what they need in respect to their buckets and sizing. I've got a big head (hey, no jokes), and I was concerned about which bucket to get. This is fantastic...man I love this place!
Title: Re: helmet sizing tutorial.
Post by: Xorim Kor on Aug 29, 2009, 01:16 AM
Taglar is correct... Bobamaker would be the same size as the Gypsyboy in the original pic. It's larger than the 2 piece Jango.

Hey A'den, just a small bit of info: Bobamaker helmets are actually smaller than the GB  in certain dimensions. I'm not sure which version of the GB I got to compare it with (it's Frost S'do helmet) but the GB was actually taller and extended forward to back a bit more than the BM. Overall, to just look, the GB seems larger than a BM by a small amount.

Charlie
Title: Re: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answered Qs
Post by: Cdr. Ch'ren Jud'se on Sep 13, 2009, 06:53 PM
quick question, what kind of helmet do you think i should get? donpost or gypseboy? i am 15, and i am around... 150ish.... which one?
Title: Re: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answered Qs
Post by: Hondo Karr on Sep 13, 2009, 07:07 PM
Th ebest thing you could do is hook up with some clanmates and try on some different sizes. I would guess that at your age a gypsyboy would look silly on you. You are probably going to need a 2 piece Jango or a Don Post.
Title: Re: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answered Qs
Post by: Cdr. Ch'ren Jud'se on Sep 13, 2009, 09:37 PM
i think i will go with the donpost, is ther any diffrence in 96 or 95?
Title: Re: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answered Qs
Post by: Hondo Karr on Sep 13, 2009, 10:26 PM
95 or 96 are the same. Both are easy to find on ebay. I just picked one up for a new clan member for 63.00 shipped. If you see some chakaar selling a helmet listed as a Don Post 97, don;t be fooled, it's a Boba Rubies 1 piece.
Title: Re: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answered Qs
Post by: Cdr. Ch'ren Jud'se on Sep 14, 2009, 10:39 AM
ok, thanks, i will prolbey get it for my b-day =p ;D
Title: Re: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answered Qs
Post by: Jorg Mereel on Nov 11, 2009, 07:49 PM
quick question, what kind of helmet do you think i should get? donpost or gypseboy? i am 15, and i am around... 150ish.... which one?

If anyone would be kind enough to help me out on this too; I'm rather tall (190 cms or 6'3''), medium build (see photo) and have a DP 96. Will that work, or should I definitely consider something larger?

Thanks in advance!

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Title: Re: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answered Qs
Post by: Hondo Karr on Nov 11, 2009, 08:26 PM
put the bucket on and take a pic. youll either need the dp95 or a 1:1 scale helmet for sure. as long as your chin doesnt hang out the bottom the dp95 will PROBABLY work.
Title: Re: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answered Qs
Post by: Hondo Karr on Nov 16, 2009, 03:27 PM
Hey all, Saz requested that I do a size comparison of his bucket vrs the Gypsyboy. The internal measurements differ slightly but, side x side they are negligably different. The Gypsyboy is on the left and the Saz is on the right:

(http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k201/PJR_76/Armor/1116091159.jpg)
(http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k201/PJR_76/Armor/1116091200.jpg)
(http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k201/PJR_76/Armor/1116091200a.jpg)
Title: Re: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answered Qs
Post by: Jorg Mereel on Nov 18, 2009, 09:22 AM
put the bucket on and take a pic. youll either need the dp95 or a 1:1 scale helmet for sure. as long as your chin doesnt hang out the bottom the dp95 will PROBABLY work.

OK, here I am in my DP 96. The chin definitely doesn't hang out and my nose isn't pressed flat against the visor; I do feel the inner walls on my cheekbones, though.

What do you think?

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Title: Re: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answered Qs
Post by: Mandalore the Uniter on Nov 18, 2009, 09:37 AM
That is probably the smallest helmet your going to be able to get by with at your height.
Title: Re: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answered Qs
Post by: Dar'manda on Nov 18, 2009, 09:48 AM
I have an issue here that i'm considering trying to fix, but am curious on..

My wife has a Mystery helmet that I picked up from Kav'an, Sorter's old bucket... I believe that would place as a 1:1, but it does not fit.. The only reason I can think of for this is that there is a metal craft ring type bit fiberglassed (liberal amounts of it) into the helmet the goes across the visor, and terminates just before the key slots. This could shave off close to an inch or so.

Issue being, my friend has a rubies two-piece. Over at his house, inspecting his gear, and such, I just wanted to try it on for shiites and giggles. Once we remove the thick block of inner padding on the top of the dome, even with the massive foam/eggcrate padding on the front mandible area, it fit, perfectly. Not too snug, not too loose, and my chin didn't really show either...

This has perplexed me now since it happened last night.. I will have pictures up soon of me in this helmet (waiting on them to arrive via email) but it boggles my mind the Mystery wouldn't fit over my head, but after my haircut, the 2-piece fit as well as any other helm i've put on, if not better!

MY current ideas are trying to remove and sand smooth the fiberglassed in ring (it's resin cast, so I have no clue why the ring is there in the first place) to see if that works and would let me know that brand of helmet fits, get up to livonia and try on a DP 95 or 96 and a gypsyboy that tk2280 has, and see wtf is up with my head... Mathematically by measurments, none of these should fit!
Title: Re: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answered Qs
Post by: Hondo Karr on Nov 18, 2009, 10:37 AM
OK, here I am in my DP 96. The chin definitely doesn't hang out and my nose isn't pressed flat against the visor; I do feel the inner walls on my cheekbones, though.

What do you think?

Yeah, I agree with with Novall. It looks alright standing there in a body suit but, I have a feeling once you slap armor plates on, it's going to be too narrow and you'll end up looking like a tic tac head.

The bad news is youll probably need to get a larger helmet, a 1:1 such as a Sgt. Fang, DeltaSquadBoss, Saz, Gypsyboy etc.. The Good news is the Don Post is a helmet in high demand and should easily be able to be sold to recoup most of the cost of a Fang, which I have seen lately here and on TDH as cheap as $90.00.

Actually you and Ijaaat may be able to work something out... I'd really like to see the pix asap Ijaat. Here's my thought knowing the size of a 2piece Rubies and a 1:1 and having seen pix of you in RenFaire garb, BTW I can get my head into a Rubies a1 piece Jango! What I'm thinking is that a 1:1 is going to be much to large for your frame and you'll end up with the bobble head look which could be counteracted with a large pauldron or big old beefy pads. While youre head fit into a 2piece Jango, you'll likely look like a tic tac Mando when armored up. My guess is you may need a Don Post 95 which is right between the two.

It may be of interest to the both of you to PM each other and consider a trade. You would both benefit from it and it would put you each one step closer to being done without thaving to shell out coin on a new bucket. Take the $15.00 hit to ship the buckets to each other along with a Christmas card and start to work!
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Post by: Dar'manda on Nov 18, 2009, 10:43 AM
Would be nice, but the two-piece is triker's, not mine... I'm pretty sure he'd take that fine civil war saber of his I am researching and gut me if I sold it!

However, let me try on Rob's DP (tk2280) and see if it fits... If it does, I wouldn't be adverse to snapping up a rubies and trading him...

OR...

The 1:1 is my wife's, which might work... But.... I'd have to really, really do some sucking up...

So you're proposing that my 1:1 even if it did fit would be too big on my frame, and that a DP95, if it fits, would be good, and that Jorg and I trading would work, yes? If so, i'll be ready by roughly Mid December, but I can't get out to where Rob is before then, due to me not getting a paycheck until about then!

Jorg, PM me if ya want!
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Post by: Hondo Karr on Nov 18, 2009, 10:50 AM
YEah, I wasnt suggesting trading the 2 piece lol!

I was suggesting exactly as you summarized... the 1:1 will fit your head once it's trimmed out but you'll look like Ijaat by Funko even in armor. The Don Post is the helmet most commonly appropriate for people your size. My brothers roughly your size and it's literally perfect on him.

Jorg's DP looks like in armor it's going to be too small and a 1:1 would be better suited for him.

Since you haz 1:1 and he haz a DP95, a trade would benefit you both. I know that you had given that Fang to the wife but, let's consider it like this and I hope she doesn't get mad at me  :-[... Being pregnant and then recovery time after the baby is born, it could 6mos to a year before having a set of armor for her is really appropriate. Next, unless she could play linebacker for the Packer's, a 1:1 is going to be much too large for her. You'll have to butcher that thing so much to make it size correctly it won't even resemble what it started out as and that's a crying shame! The biggest gal's Ive seen in armor have not needed anything larger than a DP 95, most need a 1 or 2 piece Rubies Jango.

Try on Kal'buirs buy'ce and if it looks and feels right hook up with Jorg if he's interested.
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Post by: Dar'manda on Nov 18, 2009, 10:56 AM
Since we're on the topic, this is the wife in her current buc'ye.

(http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs238.snc1/8523_193946185658_500885658_4457731_2616158_n.jpg)

We haven't re-painted or done much but remove the RF er cap so we could better affix it and secure the RF, but that's the idea.

Just gotta get my shebs to Livonia, thanks for the help A'den
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Post by: Hondo Karr on Nov 18, 2009, 11:24 AM
Wow, that looks like it fits her pretty well. I wonder if Sorter made some mods to the helmet to make it fit him better? Alot of internal fiberglassing, some trimming and padding? I would have figured that 1:1 would have looked like a bell on her head....

hmmmm....
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Post by: Dar'manda on Nov 18, 2009, 11:30 AM
Yeah... My wife is big.. Not fat, though the baby has helped that.. Her shoulders are broader than mine almost.  So the helmet made sense fit wise.. And measuring it with a standard Stanley measuring tape, it seems to be standard dimensions!
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Post by: Jorg Mereel on Nov 18, 2009, 11:34 AM
So you're proposing that my 1:1 even if it did fit would be too big on my frame, and that a DP95, if it fits, would be good, and that Jorg and I trading would work, yes? If so, i'll be ready by roughly Mid December, but I can't get out to where Rob is before then, due to me not getting a paycheck until about then!

Jorg, PM me if ya want!

Wow, a Salomonic decision. Doesn't sound like a bad deal to me, up front. And a trade between a Ghost Hunter and a Vampire Hunter kinda makes sense, actually.  ;D

No rush, Ijaat; take your time. In the meantime, let me check what the cost of international shipping is (I'm based in Mexico City) and whether I can find anything locally. If not, I'll be more than happy to do business!

PM coming up!
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Post by: tk2280 on Nov 19, 2009, 09:52 PM
Ijaat, could that 1:1 you say you have be a cast off a DP or a Rubies??   I used to have a fang and it was about the same size as a DP Delux Boba.

here are some shots of a Don Post delux Fiber Glass  and a Sgt. Fang



(http://www.tk409.com/images/fett/helmet/comparison1.jpg)
(http://www.tk409.com/images/fett/helmet/comparison2.jpg)
(http://www.tk409.com/images/fett/helmet/comparison3.jpg)
(http://www.tk409.com/images/fett/helmet/comparison4.jpg)
(http://www.tk409.com/images/fett/helmet/mystery_comparison.jpg)

The last one has the size in inches.  So unless that bucket your wife has on is a cast of a cast of a cast.  not sure why the inside would not fit you. But the smaller Rubies 2 part does. 


Rubies Jango 2 part next to a DP Deluxe
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h11/Sl2280/Mando%20buckets/DSCF5660.jpg)


But if the one you have is a cast of a cast, then there is a chance that it is a Don post 96 or 95 vinyl. Unless you know for a fact it is a sgt. Fang  But as you can see from my pics, no way would a Sgt. Fang not fit but a much smaller Rubies two part does.. ???
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Post by: DeltaSquadBoss on Nov 25, 2009, 01:44 PM

Hopefully, we can get our M-DSB "MERCENARY" Helmet in here somewhere.  ;)
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Post by: Dar'manda on Nov 25, 2009, 05:47 PM
Once Lynli and/or my helmet comes, it'll be in there... Trust me vod. :D
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Post by: Jorg Mereel on Dec 14, 2009, 09:39 AM
That is probably the smallest helmet your going to be able to get by with at your height.

Anyway, in the end it seems that I lucked out and came across this piece. It's supposed to be based on the Mystery version, but I couldn't really say. It's fiberglass and definitely larger than my DP 96.

Curiously, even though it's larger, it's much tighter than the DP, because the cheeks are much deeper and the recessed back panel presses hard against the back of my neck...  :-\

Do you think this one will do the trick?



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Post by: Taglar Dreskk on Dec 14, 2009, 10:14 AM
Easy trick to remove some room.  Cut out the keyslot rectangle...the whole thing.  Then replace it with a flat version made out of sintra or something.  It'll help give you another inch or so between the cheeks and the back of the head.
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Post by: Jorg Mereel on Dec 14, 2009, 10:59 AM
Easy trick to remove some room.  Cut out the keyslot rectangle...the whole thing.  Then replace it with a flat version made out of sintra or something.  It'll help give you another inch or so between the cheeks and the back of the head.

Yeah, I was thinking of doing something like that... I even thought about covering the resulting hole with some kind of "mosquito net" for added ventilation...

Thanks for the tip! I think this helmet will definitely do the job...

Cheers!
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Post by: DeltaSquadBoss on Dec 17, 2009, 12:28 AM
People wanted to see how our M-DSB MERCENARY Buy'ce compared in size to a  "Mystery" helmet.

"MYSTERY" on Left and               OUR M-DSB "MERCENARY" V1 (Med/Lg) on right.

(http://lh6.ggpht.com/_B23gBCNdh3A/SyiJnllHk6I/AAAAAAAAOXY/oLFXYNaD2Kg/CIMG0965.jpg)

(http://lh4.ggpht.com/_B23gBCNdh3A/SyiJn1OoVSI/AAAAAAAAOXc/1H8R-fKeKlU/CIMG0964.jpg)

(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_B23gBCNdh3A/SyiJoCXgqgI/AAAAAAAAOXg/Lx1nSzuLJNI/CIMG0963.jpg)

HERE IS THE LARGER VERSION of the MERCENARY V2 (Lg/XL)
Please excuse the Bondo on the larger version since we are "cleaning it up" for the Master Mold

"MYSTERY" on Left and      OUR on MERCENARY V2 ON RIGHT
(http://lh6.ggpht.com/_B23gBCNdh3A/SyiJoStQe7I/AAAAAAAAOXk/I1AmJJmD95o/CIMG0962.jpg)

(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_B23gBCNdh3A/SyiJooewcbI/AAAAAAAAOXo/5HuTwpPUslI/CIMG0961.jpg)

(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_B23gBCNdh3A/SyiJopDeXQI/AAAAAAAAOXs/HaIjom3DoXM/CIMG0960.jpg)

BOTH VERSIONS OF THE M-DSB "MERCENARY" TOGETHER


The M-DSB "MERCENARY" V1 (Med/LG)  and on the right The M-DSB "MERCENARY" V2 (LG/XL)
(http://lh4.ggpht.com/_B23gBCNdh3A/SyiJqK2b6uI/AAAAAAAAOYA/9F6c04cohB4/CIMG0955.jpg)

(http://lh4.ggpht.com/_B23gBCNdh3A/SyiJpa4mE0I/AAAAAAAAOX0/mhq_ALbeVNQ/CIMG0958.jpg)

(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_B23gBCNdh3A/SyiJpvccN0I/AAAAAAAAOX4/irB4bzQ0bfU/CIMG0957.jpg)

(http://lh6.ggpht.com/_B23gBCNdh3A/SyiJp-q-vqI/AAAAAAAAOX8/tC8XrGKM7f0/CIMG0956.jpg)

Hope this helps my fellow Vode!  ;)

OYA!!!
DSB

For more info on our M-DSB Mercenary Buy'ce go to our thread and read the reviews.
http://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/index.php?topic=17499.0 (http://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/index.php?topic=17499.0)
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Post by: DeltaSquadBoss on Dec 17, 2009, 12:36 AM
I'd like to add to my last post...
People also wanted to know about the materials we use and the thickness of our M-DSB MERCENARY Helmets.


Sgt. Fang "Mystery" Helmet
(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_B23gBCNdh3A/SyiJlPZa7nI/AAAAAAAAOWs/1iFjuHHQBnw/s512/CIMG0976.jpg)

Our M-DSB "MERCENARY" Buy'ce!

All of our Buy'ce's are Hand sculpted. We use our own Resin Hybrid Mix that seems to be more resistant than most store bought resins and then we Roto-cast it in 4 layers to add to the durability of our buckets.

(http://lh4.ggpht.com/_B23gBCNdh3A/SyiJldWSgfI/AAAAAAAAOWw/GRZVAu1JHpA/s512/CIMG0975.jpg)

I hope this answers those that were asking.
Thanks!
DSB
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Post by: Taglar Dreskk on Dec 17, 2009, 08:34 AM
Wow...those things are nice and thick!
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Post by: Kantis Nolef on Jan 14, 2010, 01:38 AM
Does anyone have a BradleyFett bucket? Is it 1:1?
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Post by: Hondo Karr on Jan 14, 2010, 10:26 AM
Does anyone have a BradleyFett bucket? Is it 1:1?

I did have one for a time.It is 1:1. It needs alot of reenforcing though.
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Post by: Kora on Jan 14, 2010, 03:48 PM
I'm cross posting this to my Commando helmet thread as well. Here are two pics I took of the Commando in comparison to my 2-piece. As I stated in my first post (of the Commando thread), these helmets are small! I don't want you guys to go out and buy one thinking it'll fit only to find out it's too small for your frame.

Front:
(http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u277/barghestdemyshra/DSC02441-1.jpg)

Back:
(http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u277/barghestdemyshra/DSC02442-1.jpg)

Face to Face:
(http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u277/barghestdemyshra/DSC02445-1.jpg)

Back to Back:
(http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u277/barghestdemyshra/DSC02444-1.jpg)

Opening:
(http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u277/barghestdemyshra/DSC02443-1.jpg)


I'm not really sure what measurements you guys may be looking for, but the ones I got (that I consider important *chuckle*) are these:

Opening - roughly 26" (compare this to the 2 piece, which I measured at about 29". .like I said, the commando scrapes my ears as I pull it on)
Interior rim - actually came out pretty close to the opening size of 26". Was maybe off by about half an inch or so, depending on where you pick the rim to be (I measured along the raised parts of the inside of the helmet since, if your head can't get past those, then you're in trouble)
Height (not the elongated visor area in the front) - roughly 8 1/2" (could be an inch or two more depending on where you pick the top to measure from. . I tried to eye where you would logically stop seeing if you were looking at a profile of the bucket at your own height)
Exterior circumference - About 29". This includes the ear portions, and, really, isn't as important a the interior for whether or not your head can fit it. *chuckle* Just figured somebody might want to know.
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Post by: Dar'manda on Jan 14, 2010, 03:54 PM
Side to side (front facing one side, the backs facing the other) and of the interior (so we can see the opening in the bottom size wise) and measurements in general would be awesome!
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Post by: Kora on Jan 14, 2010, 04:22 PM
Side to side (front facing one side, the backs facing the other) and of the interior (so we can see the opening in the bottom size wise) and measurements in general would be awesome!

Done. :)
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Post by: Dar'manda on Jan 14, 2010, 07:27 PM
Hmm... So roughly the same size as a two piece, with a few variances.
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Post by: Arketh on Mar 26, 2010, 07:26 PM
Well, I don't have any other buckets to compare it to, but I noticed that the assassin wasn't represented yet.

Inside measurements.
29" At the opening.
28.5" around at the brow
9" Crown(top) to back of neck (straight down, measured from centre of dome)
11" Crown to bottom of T Slot
9" Ear to Ear
10" Keyslot to T-Visor

And some quick size compared to some common household objects.

(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_4212Of6vzso/S61A_8zIvnI/AAAAAAAAAmg/87hV0P_mtCQ/s400/IMG_0647.JPG)

(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_4212Of6vzso/S61BBBR1aAI/AAAAAAAAAmk/2BKpK-QOwtk/s400/IMG_0648.JPG)

(http://lh6.ggpht.com/_4212Of6vzso/S61BDbyn4oI/AAAAAAAAAms/tOham25V9BY/s400/IMG_0650.JPG)

55m roll of duct tape and a 341ml bottle of beer for comparison purposes only :P
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Post by: Beviin Atin Eparavu on Mar 26, 2010, 07:34 PM
Yep ima need an XL.
._____.
Wow it looks kinda... thin? is it as brittle as it looks? Im afraid im gonna break the thing.

Disregard that it was the angle XD
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Post by: Hondo Karr on Mar 26, 2010, 07:40 PM
i have a pic of me wearing the assassin in armor. i'll put it up side x side with me in my krayt dragon helmet so you can get a visual reference on a body. i would think this helmet is better suited for people with narrower frames.
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Post by: Arketh on Mar 26, 2010, 07:54 PM
It's defiantly not thin.  Only real  thin parts is the major indentations like the vents and slots near/around the ears, keyslots etc.   Weighs about 2.5lbs. Don't have a set of calipers handy, but I'd say that even the T-Visor area is about 5mm think.

It just transmits light easily.

Not sure if it'd be appropriate for narrower frames. It's a big helmet, lots of room front to back and side to side, with  a reasonable amount up and down. I can just jam my head in a 2pc and can almost fight to make it fit (it hurts my nose)
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Post by: Hondo Karr on Mar 26, 2010, 07:57 PM
here's me in the assassin on the left and a fett 1:1 on the right:
(http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k201/PJR_76/Armor/P1030445.jpg)

the assassin literally fits my brother perfectly. he's about 6" shorter, right at 6'0" tall, and a good 6 or more inches narrower than me at the shoulders.
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Post by: Dar'manda on Mar 26, 2010, 10:58 PM
i have a pic of me wearing the assassin in armor. i'll put it up side x side with me in my krayt dragon helmet so you can get a visual reference on a body. i would think this helmet is better suited for people with narrower frames.

Se.. I have compared it to a Mystery, and a Rubies 2 piece, and this one is bigger than the mystery in pretty much every dimension, so i'm not quite sure where you get it's less side to side width?

Personally, unless you go with the larger, bulkier shoulder bells like you, I think it works for just about any sized frame, but that's me... Also, A'den... You're kinda huge vod, like... Big walking tank oh dear god he's going to crush me huge...
So.... What is really noticable on your frame may not be as bad on someone more average.

Plus, the one pic there is off angled, I think both straight on, they'd be close... Almost too close to tell apart...The diffence is maybe a 1/4" to 1/2" smaller, if that.... So unless the helmet reqs are getting really picky (you would know better than I there) I think it should be fine, barring bulky armor and a large frame..
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Post by: Hondo Karr on Mar 26, 2010, 11:18 PM
Personally, unless you go with the larger, bulkier shoulder bells like you, I think it works for just about any sized frame, but that's me... Also, A'den... You're kinda huge vod, like... Big walking tank oh dear god he's going to crush me huge...
So.... What is really noticable on your frame may not be as bad on someone more average.

Plus, the one pic there is off angled, I think both straight on, they'd be close... Almost too close to tell apart...The diffence is maybe a 1/4" to 1/2" smaller, if that.... So unless the helmet reqs are getting really picky (you would know better than I there) I think it should be fine, barring bulky armor and a large frame..

i think it's the design of the helmet tbh. although angled you can still see it at least appears narrower on the body. of course, we dont have many members that are my size either. i hope people dont get the impression im dissing the helmet though. i'm honestly crushed i can't use one. when i saw it in person i was completly impressed and ready to order. only after i saw the pic did i realize it's too narrow for me and it's design hinders the ability to widen the helmet without ruining it's asthetics.

as for helmet pickiness... that is my personal pet peeve beyond all others and is controlled by crl's which is why this thread wss created. essentially, if you're not a verd'ika and you look like a mando by funko you'll be denied. if you look like your head is a tic tac, you'll be denied, if your chin hangs out the bottom of your helmet, even with a balaclava, you'll be denied. jango and boba should be the visual references for helmet size. helmet should be proprtionate to the body or slightly enlarged however, it should not be clearly oversized.
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Post by: Dar'manda on Mar 26, 2010, 11:27 PM
Yeah, the assassin would go kill for you... You're just a beast man... Almost a full foot taller than me >.<
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Post by: Arketh on Mar 27, 2010, 08:10 AM
Okay, narrower than your frame A'den, I'll agree with. You fit into the "Mando of Unusual Size" however.

With your size and build, the only way for it to maybe look right would be a very careful design of the armor to complement the helmet's size and downplay your own. I hear strips are thinning...  ;D.

But your right, it at least looks narrower, no matter what the numbers say.

I think the angle of the back of the cheeks, combined with the thinner ears and less angle to the flair give it a sleeker look that may cause some people problems if they're too wide at the shoulders.
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Post by: Beviin Atin Eparavu on Mar 27, 2010, 10:32 AM
I'm oddly proportioned as is. I spose the trick will just be to build the armor bigger or smaller in some places, like football armor. I dont have an overly stout frame but my head is HUEG. I look like a bobblehead by nature .__.
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Post by: Arketh on Mar 27, 2010, 01:36 PM
For you Beviin, the Assassin might be exactly what you want.  the low taper that gives A'den a problem would work in your favour, slimming the appearance of your head. A paulderon or something sitting on the top of the shoulder area could complete the look.
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Post by: Ke'pare Onduro on Mar 29, 2010, 05:28 PM
So, here's a break down of Boba, note I'm using this picture (http://edandmari.com/starwars/images/BobaFett.jpg) as a visual reference for the height proportions.  Please also note that these dimensions are based strictly off of Boba, not Jango or any other appearance of mandalorian armor.

With the bucket on, you should be about 6 heads tall (head meaning bucket.)  The bucket should be about half as wide or wider (most action figures and statues skew towards 3/4's) as you are at the beginning of the shoulder bells at it's base.  A full front-on bust from ESB shows that it edges somewhere between the two measurements.  When watching RotJ, however, helmet sizes get a bit screwier.  In ESB they consistently use the Hero helmet (with a few exceptions, where there's debate on whether they used one of Sandy's casts instead,) but for RotJ, they used the Hero cast AND two different stunt buckets, which all have slightly different proportions.  The stunt buckets ar a bit narrower and the one that uses a green visor (one is green, one is brown) appears a bit longer in the front as well.

TDH had a decent rundown of the different casts here (http://www.thedentedhelmet.com/misc/TDH_Images/fett_helmet_history.png) with pictures.  Based on this and the photos of A'den, I'd say, personally (I am not an approval team member) that the Assassin seems on the smaller size in terms of width, though it has more to do with how it draws the eye rather than actual dimensions, as the Saz bucket is about the same width at the base.  It looks like the external dimensions of the Saz place it about an inch and a half or so wider, if that much.
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Post by: Dar'manda on Mar 29, 2010, 05:35 PM
  It looks like the external dimensions of the Saz place it about an inch and a half or so wider, if that much.

Going off the fact a vod up here has a standard Saz (which, to my knowledge, was the base for the kryat, just had some killer sculpting add-ons) and i've compared the two, I  am almost entirely certain this is optical illusion. The two, in person, don't leave much to my mind as to which is smaller, but the assassin does look smaller.
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Post by: Druan Krayt on Mar 31, 2010, 04:27 PM
i think that they may both be the same size width ways, however the dome on the assasin is wider, and the rest of the bucket kinda comes straight down, in a sleeker look. which is what the assasin is supposed to be.
Saz's bucket and most standard designed ones have a smaller dome, and reach that width by the rest of the helmet being more angled out.

like a rubies before and after a craft ring. straight down, then the standard soping
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Post by: Ha'sid on Apr 02, 2010, 04:07 AM
Looks like I still need to get a 1:1 bucket....

damn
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Post by: TK6189 on Apr 02, 2010, 04:11 AM
Looks like I still need to get a 1:1 bucket....

damn

Go MDSB then, best bang for your buck!
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Post by: Ha'sid on Apr 02, 2010, 04:14 AM
Yeah, Its gonna be a min before I can even decide on a bucket right now.
Title: Re: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answered Qs
Post by: Slade Kel (Marrok) on Apr 02, 2010, 04:18 AM
If you can save the buck-fifty or so for an M-DSB, I definitely recommend them. Thickest, sturdiest bucket around, and well worth the price from what I've seen. They even have an 'XL' size for those mandos with extra-large craniums. I'm definitely grabbing one of theirs when funds allow. No rush, of course, I don't think they're going anywhere anytime soon ;D.
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Post by: Ha'sid on Apr 02, 2010, 04:30 AM
How thick are thers compared to a BM's?
Title: Re: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answered Qs
Post by: Hondo Karr on Apr 02, 2010, 04:39 AM
i havent seen it compared side x side but, ive seen  both in person and the mdsb merc is thicker. also, bobamaker makes a SWEET boba helmet... if you're building a screen accurate boba or you're a loyal customer of his. however, if you're building a custom, you're wasting anywhere from 100.00-200.00 on a helmet purchase.
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Post by: TK6189 on Apr 02, 2010, 04:45 AM
i havent seen it compared side x side but, ive seen  both in person and the mdsb merc is thicker. also, bobamaker makes a SWEET boba helmet... if you're building a screen accurate boba or you're a loyal customer of his. however, if you're building a custom, you're wasting anywhere from 100.00-200.00 on a helmet purchase.

This man is quite correct.
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Post by: Saz on Apr 02, 2010, 05:52 AM
Try not to compare Resin or roto cast to a fiberglass cast, they are entirely different monsters.

Fiberglass is designed to be thin but afford the same strength as a thick cast resin piece, it is cost intensive with materials, hence why it is more expensive.

Bobamaker's helmets are fiberglass, so they will be much thinner than any resin cast helmets.
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Post by: Ha'sid on Apr 02, 2010, 08:09 AM
I am just asking cause my brother has a BM and it fits my head...just.
Title: Re: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answered Qs
Post by: Slade Kel (Marrok) on Apr 02, 2010, 02:46 PM
If the BM just barely fits, you'll definitely want to consider saving up for one of M-DSB's 'XL' variants. There's nothing worse than wearing a bucket around for more'n a few minutes that you have to smoosh into. My first bucket was a Rubies 1pc, back in '07-08 and it was horribly uncomfortable.
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Post by: Beviin Atin Eparavu on Apr 02, 2010, 03:12 PM
I have one on the way, but the more i think about it i worry itll be *too* big.
Title: Re: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answered Qs
Post by: Hondo Karr on Apr 02, 2010, 03:15 PM
I have one on the way, but the more i think about it i worry itll be *too* big.


If it's too big for you, I'm sure you'll have NO problem offloading it at cost. Then, get the smaller one. Or, there are ways to alter them. When Angelin applied with her kit, her helmet was too long for her head. Spanner cut about an inch off the bottom and made it perfect for her. Tagler has also done something similar with his Gypsyboy. Very few people unless you are quite small in frame or a child, are going to have an issue with the helmet being too wide. Even if it's on the wider side, it will still look better than a Tic Tac head.
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Post by: Slade Kel (Marrok) on Apr 02, 2010, 05:52 PM
Also, the M-DSB guys are pretty easy going. If it proves to be too big, I'm sure they'll let you exchange it for the regular size for no extra charge, just shipping costs.
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Post by: Beviin Atin Eparavu on Apr 02, 2010, 10:53 PM
Bwahaha. shows how well i can gauge the size of my head. I tried on an xxl batting helmet today and i thought my eyes were gonna pop out like a potato gun.

I think it will be fine.
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Post by: Ha'sid on Apr 03, 2010, 04:22 AM
I had to set it so my nose wasent hitting the visor, but its not padded inside though.
Title: Re: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answered Qs
Post by: Orionx42 on Apr 19, 2010, 05:51 PM
Maybe I've over looked it but is there any comparisons that actually give any real measurements or comparisons to hat sizes or something?
Title: Re: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answered Qs
Post by: Hondo Karr on Apr 19, 2010, 06:23 PM
Not really sure how to equate them to hat sizes plus, that's not really the point of the Mandalorian helmet. For actual fit sizing, as you can see is some of the in armor comparison photos' I can fit my head into a Rubies 1 piece Jango Fett helmet. However, it's much too small. I wear a 1:1 scale helmet which without interior padding rattles around on my head. But, it;s the size helmet that fits me in armor.

There are a couple of the photo comparisons that have measurements of some helmets.
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Post by: Seidrie Mah on Apr 20, 2010, 12:30 AM
I was just reading through the CRL's and they state the Rubies 1 piece is no longer acceptable...however, it doesen't state what IS acceptable (specifically), and I was wondering where I can view a list of what is acceptable for the helmet. Personally, I can't afford one of the fully custom helmets built by anyone here, and the Rubies I found on ebay were closer to my price range--even the two-piece ones. Any advice there?
Title: Re: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answered Qs
Post by: Ke'pare Onduro on Apr 20, 2010, 02:04 AM
The Rubies 1 piece boba is not accepted.  The 1 piece Jango is still fine.
Title: Re: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answered Qs
Post by: Seidrie Mah on Apr 20, 2010, 02:19 AM
ah! okay. thanks :)
Title: Re: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answered Qs
Post by: Hondo Karr on Apr 20, 2010, 10:41 AM
I was just reading through the CRL's and they state the Rubies 1 piece is no longer acceptable...however, it doesen't state what IS acceptable (specifically), and I was wondering where I can view a list of what is acceptable for the helmet. Personally, I can't afford one of the fully custom helmets built by anyone here, and the Rubies I found on ebay were closer to my price range--even the two-piece ones. Any advice there?

Consider this... a Rubies 1 piece Jango Fett helmet on ebay will run you about 70.00-80.00 plus 15.00-ish for shipping... so you're at 85.00 to 95.00 right there. For 125.00, you can get a MDSB Merc helmet. Offered in 2 sizes... 1:1 and roughly Don Post 95. Both are much more appropriate for adults. The smaller MDSB is great for smaller men and children while the 1:1 is great for larger folks. If you’re referring to the 2 piece Rubies, that’s fine and much less expensive. However, the issue becomes fit. If you buy it cuz it’s cheap (you’re also going to spend another $20-$40 in tools and materials to make it passable if you don’t already have them) but it’s too small, it was a complete waste of money.

Aside from that, the Rubies have issue with shape, small, being vinyl they are highly susceptable to heat warpage etc. They are really only good for kids or very slight women.

So, let's say you have 90.00 in your pocket right now. And in 6 weeks you could cut 1 fast food meal per week out of your budget and put the money towards a helmet. So, in 6 weeks you could have 125.00 to get a good helmet instead of a rubbish one.

Is there you a reason you have to have a helmet so bad that you have to have one right this second? If you’re not an experienced builder, I can promise you you’re not going to build a club worthy costume in 1-3 weeks if you’re trying to get one done for an event that is coming up in the next couple weeks. So with that the helmet becomes a non issue. Plus, if you use a helmet that is too small for your frame, even if the armor is done or near completion it won’t pass the CRL’s.

Have you used this thread to determine your helmet size? If so, what do you believe it is? Do you have any club members living near you? If so, before you invest in a helmet, especially where money’s tight and you won’t have the luxury of buying wrong stuff and replacing, you have to do it right the first time, I would suggest going to an armor party and trying on various sizes. As stated in this thread it should look slightly too large on you when you’re out of armor as you will be much larger in armor than out of. If it looks just right out of armor, the helmet will be too small in armor.

As I’ve said many a times to many a new member… this is a marathon, not a sprint. There is no rush. The club isn’t going anywhere and events will continue to come. There is no reason to try to rush things and make errors. Slow down and do it right the first time. Many of the members that have heeded my advice are now Official Members with great kits or are in the final stages of their kits that will pass without issue. Those that have ignored my advice are no further today than they were a month, a year, two years and in some cases 3 years ago. Many have even applied against recommendation one or more times and been denied.
Title: Re: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answered Qs
Post by: Dar'manda on Apr 20, 2010, 10:48 AM
Indeed.. It is not in any way a sprint, i'm learning this the hard way T_T
Title: Re: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answered Qs
Post by: Beviin Atin Eparavu on Apr 20, 2010, 11:03 AM
Wise words. Too easy for us to think of this in term of objectives, and want/expect to cruise through it.
Title: Re: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answered Qs
Post by: Seidrie Mah on Apr 21, 2010, 09:59 PM
oh, don't worry :D I just got a good talkin' too from the guy spearheading the Arkansas group, and he told me the same thing...talked me out of the Rubies all together.

Very good advice indeed
Title: Re: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answere
Post by: Riya Morut on Apr 27, 2010, 11:36 PM
Another thing you can try if you can't find a helmet that fits (or if you're broke)...

I'm making a scratchbuild out of a baseball helmet and some plastic buckets.  If you can size your head and find a baseball helmet that fits, Alan Sinclair's templates will adapt to that size.  I just trimmed off the extra inches from the back and will trim about an inch off the bottom, because I'm little. :)  If you can find a cheap helmet on e-bay, can afford a couple of paint buckets and a yard sale sign, and own a glue gun, this route might be cheaper than buying an expensive DP or something.  It's worked out that I have room for my hair AND glasses, and it will fit just right when I'm done.  Plus, I'll get to say "I made this myself!"
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Post by: Racin Kyram on May 29, 2010, 03:31 AM
Can someone explain what MDSB stands for and where can I get one of their Don POst sized helmets?  Thanx.  My eBay helmet just arrived today and it looks too big.  Just my luck.
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Post by: Dar'manda on May 29, 2010, 07:14 AM
MDSB stands for two people. M being Marcus and DSB being DeltaSquadBoss.

These are links to their two custom designs, and the one standard one.

Enforcer:
http://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/index.php?topic=25729.0

Assassin:
http://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/index.php?topic=19279.660

Mercenary(standard 'Fett'):
http://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/index.php?topic=17499.0

You can also PM DSB or Frani for more info on sizing, price, payment plans, etc..
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Post by: Racin Kyram on May 30, 2010, 01:56 AM
Thank you very much for the links.  1 more question...I just bought a "Don Post 1997" helmet from eBay before I read all of this thread.  I see that someone had post that the 97 Don Post is a Rubies.  I also saw online that Rubies used the Don Post molds for their Boba Fett helmet.  Can someone shed some light on this?  Did I make a bad purchase?
Title: Re: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answered Qs
Post by: Hondo Karr on May 30, 2010, 11:31 AM
Yeah, sadly you got taken. The Don Post 1997 is the Rubies 1 piece Boba Fett that we no longer approve from club use. Ebay CAN be a useful tool but only if you're well informed. Most sellers are only there to make a buck. The chakaar's on ebay will often call the Rubies Boba Fett the Don Post 97 to "trick" buyers. The only true Don Post helmets are the Don Post Boba Fett Deluxe which is a fiberglass helmet, the Don Pos 95 and 96 which are vinyl helmets. Something happened when Rubies took over, they made a reverse mold of the original Don Post fiberglass helmet. It ended up much smaller and distorted. You can try to return it but, you're probably stuck with it.
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Post by: Kodiak on Jun 03, 2010, 05:39 PM
(this might end up as a double post, if it does I'm sorry. Something weird is goin on...)

Greetings vode. I've been reading over this thread and several others, and I just can't place my finger on the proper scale I should go for. This is a picture of me in my very early stages WIP, with my Don Post 96 helmet. I think it is just slightly too large for my body.

(http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/346/1000366.th.jpg) (http://img267.imageshack.us/i/1000366.jpg/)



I'll be buying a new one, would I fit best with a Jango 2-piece sized helmet, or sticking with a DP sized helmet? I think a 1:1 would be much too large for my frame. I'm 5'8", 150 lbs.
Title: Re: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answered Qs
Post by: Mafio on Jun 03, 2010, 05:58 PM
Well  I've got myself  an  Fettpride  Helmet 

Well  it might be a unnessesary  amount  of Money  spent  for  a custom-Mandalorian   because  teh FP  is  aimed to the Boba-People out there...  but it is actualy  a good helmet.    There might be lesser space for individualisation  but... bleh.  ;D

Its realy quick to assamble and dont need  any big  workarounds,,,

http://img576.imageshack.us/img576/4576/werkstaat.jpg

I guess i got the only one if its kind  without a Dent.
Title: Re: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answered Qs
Post by: Hondo Karr on Jun 03, 2010, 07:02 PM
kodiak: the helmet looks perfect. any smaller could be too small any larger could look silly.

jaro: fp helmet's are wonderful creatures aren't they? looks like you bought the deluxe too ot the bidget version. as far as straight out of the box ready to roll lookig perfect, i don't think there's a helmet that can compare. i love that he finishes the interiors as wll!
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Post by: Mafio on Jun 03, 2010, 07:12 PM
finished interiors?    :o what bucket do you have?    ;D


you mean the back  with  the  chipplates?



got a premium btw
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Post by: Hondo Karr on Jun 03, 2010, 07:15 PM
by finished, i mean how the interior is smooth as glass. not a rough interior like most helmets.
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Post by: Kodiak on Jun 03, 2010, 10:43 PM
Thanks again for helping me judge the bucket proportion. Now I'm looking into a DSB-merc medium sized helmet, if my research is right that's approximately DP96 sized.
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Post by: Hondo Karr on Jun 03, 2010, 10:47 PM
yup, that's about right. either that helmet or asok's cold cast jango would be about the same size and cost. both would be great helmet's for you if you wanted to switch from vinyl to resin helmet.
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Post by: Mafio on Jun 04, 2010, 04:01 AM
Ah jeah, now I know what you mean...     Well  the inner is a bit structural... but  you wont cut yourself  ;D
Title: Re: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answered Qs
Post by: Ne'tra Tal on Jun 07, 2010, 09:27 PM
The Rubies 1 piece boba is not accepted. 

About this. What does a rubies Boba look like exactly? I have a Boba helmet, but I've had it for a few years so I don't really know anything about it and I was just wondering if the rubies is what I had or not...
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Post by: Dar'manda on Jun 07, 2010, 09:33 PM
(http://www.starstore.com/acatalog/Boba-Fett-helmet-1.jpg)

That's a rubies Boba Fett 1 piece
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Post by: Ne'tra Tal on Jun 07, 2010, 09:48 PM
(http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx126/NetraTal/100_1982.jpg)

Hnn they do kinda look alike. I'm guessing this is one meaning I'm gonna have to find a new helmet/way to make one!
Title: Re: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answered Qs
Post by: Dar'manda on Jun 07, 2010, 09:56 PM
Yeah, that's the banned helmet. Honestly, it's way over priced, low quality, etc... It's just the best move for the Club to not allow it.

I would suggest take some pics of it on you... Post them up here or in a thread so we can help find you what you'll likely need (if you have armor and soft goods, so much the better, throw those on). If that 1 piece BF works, then a rubies two piece jango should, and they're only $40... They take some work to get into nice shape, but it can be done!
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Post by: Mafio on Jun 08, 2010, 08:37 AM
(http://www.starstore.com/acatalog/Boba-Fett-helmet-1.jpg)

That's a rubies Boba Fett 1 piece

Man    this looks  either bad  or shebs      but never those two combined.
Title: Re: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answered Qs
Post by: Ne'tra Tal on Jun 08, 2010, 08:46 AM
Yeah, that's the banned helmet. Honestly, it's way over priced, low quality, etc... It's just the best move for the Club to not allow it.

I would suggest take some pics of it on you... Post them up here or in a thread so we can help find you what you'll likely need (if you have armor and soft goods, so much the better, throw those on). If that 1 piece BF works, then a rubies two piece jango should, and they're only $40... They take some work to get into nice shape, but it can be done!

I'll go ahead and post a thread with pictures of me wearing it and see what kind of response I get ^^
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Post by: ChapterEleven on Jun 08, 2010, 09:33 AM
I'm not quite in the market to start my armor yet (just moved into my first house and there are a LOT of unexpected expenses popping up), but I'd like to get a heads up for what size helmet to get. I'm a skinny guy, 6 foot tall and 150 lbs. I was going to try to scratchbuild, but I've never tried anything like that before, and I'd rather not get a crappy looking bucket. I figure I'd rather buy an MDSB right away and not waste the money on scratchbuild materials . However, I'm afraid that an M-DSB would look huge on my small frame, but due to my height a Rubies 2 peice Jango might be to short? Anybody have experience with a similar frame? Thanks!
Title: Re: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answered Qs
Post by: Hondo Karr on Jun 08, 2010, 11:09 AM
How old are you? If youre young, a larger helmet can be grown into. I see youre in PA. Maybe try hooking up with the PA Mercs to try on helmets.

Keep in mind as well, Jeremy Bulloch, the original Mandalorian, wore a 1:1 helmet. He was 6'02" and about 165 at the time of ESB. His look is the standard for fit.

I would guess an MDSB would be alright but, when it doubt, try it out!
Title: Re: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answered Qs
Post by: Dar'manda on Jun 08, 2010, 11:45 AM
Yeah, M-DSB has several sizes, and can cover most builds, so you're good there... But try some on first to get an idea, just in case. Nothings set in stone or such for getting the right sizes.. My first helmet and set of armor, mathematically, should have fit and been sized right, but they weren't. So always try it on yourself!
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Post by: Beviin Atin Eparavu on Jun 08, 2010, 12:26 PM
If youre ever swinging through McKean county I'll let ye try on my assassin :D
Title: Re: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answered Qs
Post by: ChapterEleven on Jun 08, 2010, 02:05 PM
I didn't realize the M-DSB's came in sizes. I'll have to look into it once some more funds come in. (and I'm 25 by the way, haven't grown any in 9 or so years, so this'll be my max height)
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Post by: Dar'manda on Jun 08, 2010, 02:11 PM
Yup, most M-DSB products come in 2 sizes, with the Merc (standard Fett that can have a boba dent added) having small, medium/large, and XL. The assassin has a 'small' and an XL as well.

I think a medium size bucket is your best bet with what i've heard
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Post by: ChapterEleven on Jun 08, 2010, 02:30 PM
Excellent, thanks for all the help guys!
Title: Re: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answered Qs
Post by: Dar'manda on Jun 08, 2010, 02:32 PM
Hey, I went through almost 3 helmets (only have 1) and kept only 1 when all was said and done. So I'd HATE to see someone have the same buy, re-sell because it didn't fit, etc..
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Post by: Seeker on Jun 12, 2010, 07:04 PM
It's hard to find a good fitting helmet.
Title: Re: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answered Qs
Post by: Zahr Lestin on Jul 15, 2010, 03:37 PM
What type and what size helmet should I get? I don't think I have a big head but I just would like to know where and what type I should get. Also I am operating with a budget so I can't spend much. Thanks vode!
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Post by: Beviin Atin Eparavu on Jul 15, 2010, 03:45 PM
Cheapest option for the average head is the ubiquitous 2-piece jango.
Title: Re: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answered Qs
Post by: Hondo Karr on Jul 15, 2010, 06:01 PM
Beviin's suggestion may or may NOT be correct.

Zahrlestin... if you read through this entire entire thread, it should answer your own question fairly well for you. Unless you have a gianormous head that requires some type of super sized helmet, the size of your head vs the size of the helmet is completly irrelevant. That is WELL spelled out in this thread as well.

The helmet needs to be proportionate to your body in armor. When you wear your armor and have your helmet on, the helmet should be slightly oversized compared to what you would consider balaced. If you take a pic of you in armor and helmet and hold it next to a pic of Boba or Jango Fett, the proportions should be similar.

Sadly, we recently had to deny an applicant who applied with a 2piece helmet that was WAY to small for his frame, let alone his frame in armor, as he took poor advice from everyone saying "if you have a limited budget, use a Rubies 2 piece". The fact is, we all have a limited budget. Some are more limited than others for certain but, none of us have unlimited funds to spend on this or I'm sure one of us would have fully functional armor by the point.

The trick is how you balance your budget. COnsdiering you can get nearly all of your soft goods from Thrift shops and online milsurplus dealers for under $100.00 and you can build your own armor from WOF templates and Setrilite bins, trash cans or Sintra for well under $50.00, even on a limited budget, you should still be able to spend the money on your helmet.

Another thing to consider i sthat the 2 piece isnt as "cheap" as everyone makes it out to be. If you don't already have bondo, fiberglass, glues and sanding equipment on hand, it's still goinng to cost you near $100.00 by the time everythings said and done plus, days of labor to have it fully prepared to paint. A resin or fiberglass helmet is going to cost between $125.00 and $175.00 and with a light sanding is pretty much ready to roll. Many sellers are accepting payment plans now, although all aren't. We have some great sellers here who make top notch product... AdammScott is currently lining up a run of Clone Wars style DeathWatch helmets, DeltaSquad Boss is currently not taking orders but if youre not in a hrry you could ait for him. He offers a variety of helmet desigs ad sizes. Saz has a few helmet options and takes payment plans. Asok (who's thread is a few pages back in the trading station) sells a BEAUTIFUL Jango helmet made from a repaired LFL mold... it's essentially the movie helmet.s

So, in short...

1. Beware the 2 piece. If it's not the right size, it's a waste of time and money.
2. It's not as cost effective as people think unless you have all the needed materials on hand.
3. READ THIS THREAD IN IT's ENTIRITY. Most questions people ask, even in this thread, they could have answered themselves if they read it. It's why I authoere it to begin with.
4. Make sure the helmet you buy is properly proportioned the first time around rather than learnig the hard way later.

Hope that helps.
Title: Re: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answered Qs
Post by: Zahr Lestin on Jul 16, 2010, 04:01 AM
ok, thanks, i will prolbey get it for my b-day =p ;D

I am 15 too but I am tall (6'0") and I weigh about 160 and I looked on ebay for th don post helmets but couldn't find anything. Anyone have a suggestion for me as to what to get. Also I am on a budget, can't spend too much. Thanks. Kandosii!
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Post by: Zahr Lestin on Jul 18, 2010, 10:13 AM
Is the rubies 2 piece Jango in specs? And does anyone know how to strengthen it? Like using resin or bondo? Thanks! OYA MANDO!!

Zahr
Title: Re: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answered Qs
Post by: Hondo Karr on Jul 23, 2010, 02:24 PM
I think the first step should be reading this thread in it's entirety, that should help you  establish what you need size wise for a helmet. Then, contact the sellers listed in this thread (via PM's or by looking in the Trading Station) to get a helmet.
Title: Re: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answered Qs
Post by: Ca'tra Talyc on Aug 11, 2010, 09:54 PM
Would it be accurate to assume that a minimally modded Rubies is the lightest weight option? The Jango 2 piece is a pretty good fit for my frame but its weight is the real selling point for me.
Title: Re: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answered Qs
Post by: Beviin Atin Eparavu on Aug 12, 2010, 11:34 AM
For the thickness of my neck, my dsb is light as a feather.
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Post by: A'den Ca'tra on Aug 13, 2010, 04:44 PM
Ok, so now Im gettng all confused about helms, sizing, body proportion in and out of armor...

I currently own a mint, unworked GB BF helm. I am about to buy a new Mercenary helm. Thing is...which size?!

Im a...big girl. Those who went to SDCC 09 saw me. Big chick in the Mercs shirt, long brown hair, quiet... Now mentally add not too bulky armor... (for idea, check out my Mando concept drawing at my gallery here: www.deviantart.com/ladysythe)

Head measurements:
Forehead circumfrance: approx 14in
Center top of head to chin (including nose): approx 12in AND 11in from top of head and back to shoulders

I dont want to look like a bobble head and I dont want to look like my head is 3 sizes too small lol Im set to order a M/L Mercenary helm, but I want to be sure Ive picked the right size before sending my paypal payment.

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Post by: Dar'manda on Aug 13, 2010, 04:51 PM
ML should work on the DSB front, with the XL possibly working out too.
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Post by: A'den Ca'tra on Aug 13, 2010, 07:12 PM
Lol ok. A pitty I dont live near the DSB workshop for fittings lol
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Post by: Ca'tra Talyc on Aug 13, 2010, 07:38 PM
A'den, do you have your vest or collar plate made yet? I'd use the width of your upper costume parts to determine how wide the helmet should be. I'm extremely narrow in the shoulders (my collar template is about 2 inches narrower than the small WoF template) so I have a Rubies 2-piece for my primary kit, for my second kit I'm ordering a M/L Assassin. I keep meaning to measure the shoulder area of my flightsuit for my reference as I make templates, but it hasn't been convenient to do so.
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Post by: Hondo Karr on Aug 13, 2010, 08:06 PM
Ca'tra... can you put up a pic of you with the GB on? That should give us an idea what helmet to recommend. My GF wears a DP96 which I BELIEVE is about the size of teh smaller Merc helmet but Im not certain.
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Post by: A'den Ca'tra on Aug 13, 2010, 08:54 PM
@Catra: Yep, got a vest, even armor, just nothing to attach it with...yet.

@Aden: I wont be able to post any pics till Monday, and Ill take a pic with vest on and off while wearing the GB bucket.
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Post by: Mayhem on Aug 17, 2010, 09:31 AM
Going through this thread trying to figure out my first bucket, I think I'm leaning toward the DSB M/L. I love the look and it sounds like their quality is great.
I'm 6'2 around 180-185lbs. I'm thinking the XL would be a bit big. I don't have any armor to try with it yet (as I was going to start with the bucket and work around that for a set).
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Post by: Hondo Karr on Aug 17, 2010, 10:49 AM
6'02" 185 is nearly the size Jeremy Bulloch was when he suited up as Fett. You need a 1:1 scaled helmet. The DSB M/L will be too small for you.
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Post by: Dar'manda on Aug 17, 2010, 12:29 PM
A'den has it. The XL size is bigger, but not enough so that if a 1:1 is comfy size wise on you, you'll look like a bobble head in it. Now... If you're pushing it to wear a 1:1, then yeah, the XL is over kill... But with your size, it should do it just right, or you can pretty much have your pick of any of the various helmet makers, save the Asok one, which is going to be a bit small for you in all likely hood.
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Post by: Beviin Atin Eparavu on Aug 17, 2010, 02:50 PM
I can vouch the XL assassin is quite roomy without making you look like a dumdum.
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Post by: Mayhem on Aug 17, 2010, 03:45 PM
Thanks again all! THink I'm going to go for the XL Enforcer. I'm really digging that look the more I go through all the photos of different Mandos.
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Post by: DorkLogic on Sep 01, 2010, 10:55 AM
Thanks again all! THink I'm going to go for the XL Enforcer. I'm really digging that look the more I go through all the photos of different Mandos.
I have a giant head and the XL enforcer fits me well without bending or resizing. The cheeks will come very close to your forehead when you put it on, but that is due to the aggressive features of the helmet... once you have it on completely, the crown has plenty of room.
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Post by: Beviin Atin Eparavu on Sep 01, 2010, 01:20 PM
I have a giant head and the XL enforcer fits me well without bending or resizing. The cheeks will come very close to your forehead when you put it on, but that is due to the aggressive features of the helmet... once you have it on completely, the crown has plenty of room.

Same with my assassin. I have to put it on at an odd angle and it nicks my face, but once on its roomy.
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Post by: Drafe Tureel on Sep 03, 2010, 08:12 PM
Hey
I am not sure which helmet to buy. I was thinking the Jango 2 piece but I'm not sure anymore. I am male,  6'1'' and weigh 150 lbs. is the jango a good buy for me?
Drafe
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Post by: Ur-Akaan on Sep 12, 2010, 10:27 PM
A'den has it. The XL size is bigger, but not enough so that if a 1:1 is comfy size wise on you, you'll look like a bobble head in it. Now... If you're pushing it to wear a 1:1, then yeah, the XL is over kill... But with your size, it should do it just right, or you can pretty much have your pick of any of the various helmet makers, save the Asok one, which is going to be a bit small for you in all likely hood.

Ok, I thought I had it figured out, now not so much...

I thought the 1:1 scale and the M-DSB Merc. XL were the same size, am I off on this? I'm 6'3" and 245lbs (even though I'm looking to lose 20 to 30lbs), so I figured larger is better.
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Post by: Hondo Karr on Sep 12, 2010, 10:29 PM
Yes, the M-DSB Xl is 1:1 in scale
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Post by: Dar'manda on Sep 12, 2010, 10:37 PM
when I say bigger, the dimensions it's off on a Fett helmet are, like I said, small enough that the difference is neglible in most people. I've only seen it come into play when they're just barely the size to need or be able to wear a 1:1 (it can look off a bit) or like in my case, where my sizing is such that a 1:1 is almost too small/not comfy, the small increase in room is nice.

Although, I honestly wouldn't call it a 1:1.. The Fett boys are picky, and these don't match up perfectly in scale. It's comparable to the point of honestly not matter, but in the technical sense it's not, so I generally just advert that it's a hair bigger.
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Post by: Ur-Akaan on Sep 12, 2010, 11:19 PM
Thank you both for the clarification!...

I'll be going with the tradtional Fett styled Merc helmet, although the M-DSB Enforcer is an interesting look as well...
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Post by: Saz on Sep 29, 2010, 09:28 AM
Here's a picture of the difference in size between my 1:1 size Master and my 2-Piece sized helmets, both are made in lightweight fiberglass.

(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a77/ogotu/Smallcomparison.jpg)
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Post by: cmyer11 on Oct 16, 2010, 10:45 PM
Hey recently i have been try to follow a tutorial for aluminum its a bit tough and sharp too, if i don't cut it exactly it might loose its strength as well, so i was think of putting that on hold and just straight up purchasing a don post deluxe . I'm not the tallest person i'm 5.6 and hats tend to fit loosely on my i kind of have a small head... would this maybe be the helmet for me?
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Post by: Hondo Karr on Oct 16, 2010, 10:48 PM
As the thread states several times, head size is irrelevant to sizing the helmet. If needed, you can smoosh your head into a bucket or pad a bucket to fit right. The main thing is how is teh helmet sized/proportioned to your body in armor. At 5'06" youre not far from Tem as Jango. you will likely need a Jango rubies 2 piece or a Don Post 95/96. Do you live near any other Mercs? Can you get to an armor party and try ona  few, take pix to post so we can help you figure it out?
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Post by: cmyer11 on Oct 16, 2010, 10:56 PM
Yeh I would rather have a roomy helmet than an awkwardly small helmet. I did actually go to an armor party today, I heard talk of this new d msb ? or something like that, they were saying if your going to end up buying i might as well get that one because its supposed to be a lot better for some reason compared to others, i definitely  want a movie helmet type proportional wise if thats possible.
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Post by: Beviin Atin Eparavu on Oct 17, 2010, 12:06 AM
M-dsb, vod. There's threads for it around. The XL is roomy like an suv. They have a nice variety, and many willl agree with me that the quality is mind blowing.
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Post by: jango draul on Oct 17, 2010, 11:56 AM
ok im about 6 foot an i wear a 38 belt im guessing that would require a 1:1 which im thinking of getting from saz if you think thats a wrong guess tell me and another question does a kit require a helmet because i am gona start when i get out of a sling and after Physical Therapy
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Post by: Hondo Karr on Oct 17, 2010, 11:58 AM
Uh, not to be rude but, were you serious when you asked if you the kit requires a helmet? i would suggest before you start a build you at least glance at the CRL's so you know what's required.
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Post by: Zahr Lestin on Oct 21, 2010, 04:10 PM
would a DP fit me if I have a 23-24" round head at the temples and I am 6' and 160 lbs? Thanks what would you recomend if it wouldn't?

Zahr
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Post by: Hondo Karr on Oct 21, 2010, 04:25 PM
Again, head size is less important. Size of helmet to body in armor ratio is the important part. Most likely, youll need a DP 95/96 or a 1:1. the only way to be 100% certain is to get with fellow Mercs and try some on.
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Post by: Jorg Mereel on Oct 21, 2010, 06:26 PM
would a DP fit me if I have a 23-24" round head at the temples and I am 6' and 160 lbs?

Well, I am 6'3" and 185 lbs and the DP was a tad too small. I had to go for a 1:1.
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Post by: Nathaniel on Oct 22, 2010, 02:45 PM
Hi, I´m trying to find out which helmet is best for me and I would really appreciate if someone here could help me. I´m about 6,05´  171 lbs. I would go for M-DSB if that fits me - I really like their assassin helmet(mercenary is also very good  ;D) but I´m not sure which size to choose and it also seems a little short so my chin might stick out .  Thanks for any advice.
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Post by: Dar'manda on Oct 22, 2010, 02:50 PM
You're fairly close to a 1:1 size as far as proportions go, but if you're worried, Boss has said he will swap sizes if something doesn't fit. So I would say, if you're set on the Assassin, and just debating sizes, go ahead and order the XL. Reason being, your proportions don't sound to be skinny toothpick-ish, so there's a good chance the XL won't be overly large, and if it turns out to be a bit big, it's easier to work with visually and such than say the tic-tac syndrome... Main thing is that it look proportional when you're suited up. And given your size and worry on the Chin, the XL is likely to do the best for ya, from what you said you wanted. Just be sure when you get whatevber you want, to post us some pics and get out attention so we can try and make sure to help ya out!
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Post by: Nathaniel on Oct 22, 2010, 05:24 PM
The problem is that I´m from the Czech Republic, so exchanging the helmet for a smaller one may get money and time consuming. I´d like to get a good one at the first attempt. But I think I will take your advice -better to have a helmet that is a bit bigger than a helmet that is small. I´m planning to make a custom heavy armored mando for close combat with a neck guard(if there will be place for it and it wouldn´t look bad) much like some space marines from warhammer have (just to show what I mean by a neck guard (http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/9/96/MkVIII_Errant.jpg) .) so if the helmet looked big I could always make bulky shoulder pads or chest armor - I have some sketches   ;)   I will make a topic and post pictures there but it will take some time because I have some other work so I´ll work occasionally on the project. Thank you for that advice  ;)
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Post by: Zahr Lestin on Oct 23, 2010, 07:03 AM
Can I get a comparison shot of a saz 1:1 with a DP 95/96 please? Thanks! It would help a lot with deciding which on to buy.

Zahr
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Post by: Hondo Karr on Oct 23, 2010, 08:18 AM
Look back on the first couple of pages, there are several.
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Post by: Rex Brokar on Nov 11, 2010, 12:11 PM
One question: I am 5.7 feet tall: Would the two piece fit me? (I'm probably getting a Saz two piece)
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Post by: Hondo Karr on Nov 11, 2010, 12:21 PM
It's hard to say for certain. Most likely it would but, you may need a don Post as well. It really depends on your build. Broad shoulders, narrow shoulders, heavy, thin, athletic etc. Best bet would be to look at some of the pix of people wearing their helmets earlier in this thread, most have labeled body types, and try to find something similar to you. I would THINK the 2 piece would be fine for you but, there are always other circumstances.
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Post by: Rex Brokar on Nov 11, 2010, 12:37 PM
well, i'm a kid, you see, so i don't exactly know how to describe my build...I'd say I'm rather muscular for my age (13)
EDIT: And i weigh 125 lbs
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Post by: Hondo Karr on Nov 11, 2010, 02:59 PM
I would think a 2 piece sized helmet would suit you fine.
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Post by: Mirdala on Nov 16, 2010, 11:07 AM
I thought that the buyce standards for this site were going away from the rubies. I am just under five feet as well so a larger bucket would just look silly. Any suggestions, or would a rubies be okay? I'm trying to budget and right now it looks as though the buyce might be one of the more sizable expenses.
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Post by: Hondo Karr on Nov 16, 2010, 03:08 PM
Rubies helmets CAN BE made to look good but, they take some work. The Rubies Deluxe Boba Fett helmet (or as some call it the Don Post 1997) is banned for club use as it's expensive and horrible. The 2 piece Jango is actually a very nice helmet but requires the seams to be filled and smoothed. Fixing the left earcap is recommended as well although not required. The Rubies Jango Deluxe and Don POst 1995/1996 are great helmets too but require a craft ring as they are vinyl and will warp.

The fact is, not everyone can wear a resin or fiberglass helmet due to the size of most. That's why we don't want to remove all of our costuming options by shunning all Rubies helmets. However, we do have 2 sellers, Saz in the UK and DeltaSquadBoss in the US that make resin or fiberglass helmets in a variety of sizes smaller, larger and 1:1. So they open up a variety of options for costumers with better quality helmets.
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Post by: Tirilia on Dec 08, 2010, 03:15 AM
Howdy,

This thread has been really useful :) but I was just wondering.. I'm kind of new here and am not really familiar with all the Mando bucket makers.. I was looking for a fett style helmet (full t visor, no narrowing of the eyes to points like the Deathwatch helmet).

Also, being female, I'm not sure which would fit me best.. I'm 5'7, not stick thin but not overweight.. price doesnt bother me, though I'd prefer something light weight, perhaps ABS or a good strong resin?

Head circumfrence is 56cms, nape of my neck to my chin (measuring over the middle of my head, over my nose and to the end of my chin) is 53cms.

Would love some ideas on what would fit best :)
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Post by: Sixgunz on Dec 08, 2010, 04:09 AM
u plannin to do some enjoyiable modifications? how bout the hasbro boba helmet?
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Post by: Tirilia on Dec 08, 2010, 04:17 AM
Interesting idea Six, but I dont want to have to mod it That much :)
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Post by: Sixgunz on Dec 08, 2010, 04:23 AM
well like wat A'den said, u can try askin Saz or deltasquadboss. if its visor issue its easily rectified
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Post by: Kel Toi on Dec 08, 2010, 04:58 AM
Saz has a 2-piece size bucket for sale .  http://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/index.php?topic=30444.0

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Post by: Tirilia on Dec 08, 2010, 05:11 AM
That bucket looks a bit.. I dunno... big? maybe too big for me? looks like it would just about flare to my shoulders.
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Post by: Kel Toi on Dec 08, 2010, 05:49 AM
Which bucket ? There are a few on the page . Maybe the 2-piece is more your size .
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Post by: Tirilia on Dec 13, 2010, 03:35 AM
That seems about right.. thank you :)

Just trying to decide between Saz's 2 Piece helmet, and the Assassins now..
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Post by: Shev'Dela on Dec 15, 2010, 12:03 AM
Can anyone direct me to a thread with T-Visor measurements?

I need to know the specifics for what would fit a MDSB mecenary and a one piece Jango.

(I apologize in advance if this is clutter)
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Post by: Hondo Karr on Dec 15, 2010, 12:34 AM
I'm sure somebody would have those, I don't offhand. I generally cut my visor individually to each helmet from a #5 dark green face shield.
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Post by: Ms. Lanna on Mar 09, 2011, 03:29 PM
I am considering to scratchbuild or buy. Not sure if I manage to scratchbuild.  :-[  So if I want to buy, which size should I get?
Here's a pic of me  (http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn128/wuehlkuschler/Trooping/SANY0042.jpg)in a non-approvable Boba One Piece. (Also my icon) I think the helmet could be a bit bigger, but not much.
Which purchaseable would avoid the bobblehead look?  :-\
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Post by: Hondo Karr on Mar 09, 2011, 03:54 PM
Im thinking something in the lines of medium sized helmet... if youre looking for a higher quailty helmet, something like Asok's Jango Fett helmet, Saz' small helmet or MDSB's Medium Merc helmet. That's going to put you into the Rubies 2 piece Jango - Don Post 95 sized helmet. Of course, you could do either of those as well. The Rubies 2 piece is a realivly cheap experiment and takes some work to finish it. Although not required, I would recommend rebuilding the right earcap to make it look more authentic and less like a toy. The Don Posts are getting harder and harder to find and Ive noticed the price is going up on them overall when I do see them. Plus, you're still dealing with a vinyl helmet that can warp over time.
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Post by: Ms. Lanna on Mar 09, 2011, 04:47 PM
Thank you, A'den.
I am not sure I like the looks of the Don Post, so I'd probably go for a Jango Two piece.
For now I printed out some templates and should the size turn out okay, I might just try that first.  :-\
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Post by: Ven Kyrad on Mar 10, 2011, 05:49 PM
Here's a great size comparison shot  ;) Kind of helmet will be listed left to right.
rubies 2 piece, 1 piece jango, rubies 2 piece, mando commando, boba voice changer, XL MDSB mercenary, rubies 2 piece
(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l99/eva056/200346_150591161667445_100001496866763_311947_3136860_n-2.jpg)
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Post by: Pyro on Apr 10, 2011, 03:53 AM
My M-DSB Merc M/L next to my Jango 2 piece for size comparison
(http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p2/dark_monkey_2006/4082be96.jpg)
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Post by: Jorg Mereel on Apr 14, 2011, 10:19 PM
Sorry I hadn't posted in a VERY long time... how's this for the "bobblehead" look? Better?

(http://img848.imageshack.us/img848/4892/newhelmet.jpg)
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Post by: Beviin Atin Eparavu on Apr 14, 2011, 11:18 PM
Isnt the important perspective the size of the helmet with the bulk of the armor?
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Post by: Jorg Mereel on Apr 15, 2011, 09:14 AM
Isnt the important perspective the size of the helmet with the bulk of the armor?

I guess you're right, but as a starting point I'm basing my question on the comment below:

Another thing to consider is that the helmet should look slightly large compared to your body if you put it on out of armor. wearing the armor adds alot of size to your frame. so, if you get a helmet that looks proportionat to your body out of armor, youll look likea pellet head in armor. while you shouldnt look like a funko bobblehead with it on out of armor, you should look like you're getting there.

So, my question is... would this bucket work under that premise?
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Post by: Saz on Apr 15, 2011, 10:23 AM
I'd say it's a little too wide for your frame myself, but, bobblehead is preferred to tic tac head.
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Post by: Hondo Karr on Apr 15, 2011, 10:36 AM
Yeah, saz is correct, the width is a bit much.
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Post by: Jorg Mereel on Apr 15, 2011, 10:42 AM
Yeah, saz is correct, the width is a bit much.

Geez... well, I'm pretty much stuck with this bucket at the moment, so what would be a good way to compensate? Add a pauldron, or large shoulder plates, or something like that?

Thanks for the guidance!
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Post by: Saz on Apr 15, 2011, 10:51 AM
Actually, try putting some foam in the top and take another picture, after I've seen it like that, I'd see if I recommend taking off ay 1.4 inch off the bottom.

It's the flare at the bottom that makes it look so wide.
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Post by: Jorg Mereel on Apr 15, 2011, 11:06 AM
Actually, try putting some foam in the top and take another picture, after I've seen it like that, I'd see if I recommend taking off ay 1.4 inch off the bottom.

It's the flare at the bottom that makes it look so wide.

Interesting... one thing here is that, right now, the helmet's T visor sits right at my eye level with no padding, so any more height would block my sight; I was thinking of installing a hard hat liner for comfort, but no significant added height.

On the other hand, trimming the bottom seems totally doable; since the helmet is fiberglass, what's the best way to do it? Dremel it out?

Cheers!
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Post by: Saz on Apr 15, 2011, 01:14 PM
If that's the case, I wouldn't bother then, because it's going to be short and fat if you do it. if it was sitting higher then it might work, I guess you could dremel out a  bit more space in the visor.

What helmet is that anyway?
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Post by: Jorg Mereel on Apr 15, 2011, 03:15 PM
If that's the case, I wouldn't bother then, because it's going to be short and fat if you do it. if it was sitting higher then it might work, I guess you could dremel out a  bit more space in the visor.

What helmet is that anyway?

That sounds better; I think I'll go that route. Cheers, mate!

BTW, I got the helmet locally, from a fellow 501st member... it's supposed to be a Mystery, but who knows...  :D
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Post by: Jorg Mereel on Apr 27, 2011, 01:47 PM
OK, so I'm definitely going to add inner padding to raise the whole helmet and make it look more proportionate... now, to add visibility I'm planning on cutting the visor as shown below... would that be OK? A bit of Crusader era influence...

Title: Re: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answered Qs
Post by: Hondo Karr on Apr 28, 2011, 12:20 AM
Most have a personal preferance for a more traditional T visor but, there's no CRL issue with that deszign.
Title: Re: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answered Qs
Post by: Jorg Mereel on Apr 28, 2011, 07:51 AM
Most have a personal preferance for a more traditional T visor but, there's no CRL issue with that deszign.

Great, thanks for the input!
Title: Re: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answered Qs
Post by: Beviin Atin Eparavu on May 01, 2011, 03:26 PM
I think that looks fantastic. Can't wait to see it finished. Never any harm in a slightly bigger field of vision, eh? Just depends on your appointed task.
Title: Re: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answered Qs
Post by: Mav Nexu on May 03, 2011, 07:31 AM
From the pics, it looks like the M-DSB Merc M/L is a little shorter than the J2P (which I wear now). Is this true? Because the visor on my J2P sits perfectly at eye level with very little padding in the very top (I have padding around the forehead all the way around to hold it still).

I'm considering upgrading to a M-DSB Merc, but want to make sure the size is gonna be right.

I know SAZ is garning interest on a J2P sized Krayt bucket, and I'll go that route if he decided to make it, but I'd like a traditional merc from my Mk2 armor for Atin.
Title: Re: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answered Qs
Post by: Hondo Karr on May 03, 2011, 09:05 AM
Show us a pic with your J2P on.
Title: Re: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answered Qs
Post by: Saz on May 03, 2011, 10:15 AM
The j2p sized Krayt is being made.
Title: Re: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answered Qs
Post by: Bairu Wapek on May 04, 2011, 03:31 AM
HI all,

Sorry to probably repeat my self etc but can you look at the pic below and let me know if you think a Rubies 2 piece size helmet would look too small or if i could get away with it. The one i am wearing below is a Saz 1:1

(http://i1140.photobucket.com/albums/n572/darthbailey58/photo3.jpg)

I only ask as Saz is now doing a 2 piece size Krayt!
Title: Re: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answered Qs
Post by: Kel Toi on May 04, 2011, 03:36 AM
Mate thats perfik , The thing with the 2-piece is it looks ok from the front but small from the side .
Title: Re: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answered Qs
Post by: Saz on May 04, 2011, 04:35 AM
As I said in PM buddy, I don't think it's the helmet that is the problem, it's the plates, they look a little small for your frame and it makes you look lanky...

Or they are too high up your body... maybe that's it!
Title: Re: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answered Qs
Post by: Kel Toi on May 04, 2011, 04:43 AM
I think Saz is right mate , the bottom of the ab-plate should be on yer belly button (unless yer a clone lol)
Title: Re: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answered Qs
Post by: Kel Toi on May 04, 2011, 04:53 AM
Looking at the pic again , Try some straight on shots as you are looking down on the camera .
Title: Re: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answered Qs
Post by: Mav Nexu on May 04, 2011, 06:46 AM
Here's my J2P on, before I did any work to it (obviously). It felt about right size wise, but I may be wrong. I'd hate to show up to D*Con with a tic-tac.

I'll be able to get better pics with my vest and armor once I rotate back to the states in July.

Front
(http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u178/shadows5205/J2Pfront.jpg)

Side (with my Ad'ika)
(http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u178/shadows5205/J2Pside.jpg)
Title: Re: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answered Qs
Post by: Hondo Karr on May 04, 2011, 09:23 AM
Atin, I think you're ok with that one.

Bairu, I also think it's the plates. They could stand to be a bit wider and longer. The helmet lloks fine.
Title: Re: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answered Qs
Post by: Mav Nexu on May 04, 2011, 10:18 AM
Thanks for the confirmation Falin. As always, you're a huge help.
Title: Re: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answered Qs
Post by: StormyHaze on May 06, 2011, 08:52 PM
Hello! I hope I am not being to rude by just jumping right into this post, but, well, there's no other way to go about it!

I have been trying to find the link  to the purveyors of these helmets (rubies, Don Post, GB [still learning this terming!]), and all the links ive found are out of date. Ive of course checked ebay and the like, but ive only seen ONE helmet and it had the boba fett ding on it, which i do not want.

Can anyone help me with links? Im trying to find a blank helmet.

Thank you! :)
Title: Re: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answered Qs
Post by: Hondo Karr on May 06, 2011, 10:22 PM
Hehehe, someone didn't finish reading the thread...  :P
 8)
Title: Re: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answered Qs
Post by: Kel Toi on May 07, 2011, 03:57 AM
Here's my J2P on, before I did any work to it (obviously). It felt about right size wise, but I may be wrong. I'd hate to show up to D*Con with a tic-tac.

I'll be able to get better pics with my vest and armor once I rotate back to the states in July.

Front
(http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u178/shadows5205/J2Pfront.jpg)

Side (with my Ad'ika)
(http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u178/shadows5205/J2Pside.jpg)


Is it just me or have Rubie changed these buckets ? They look longer from back to front plus they have a two tone blue paint !
Title: Re: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answered Qs
Post by: StormyHaze on May 07, 2011, 03:06 PM
Hehehe, someone didn't finish reading the thread...  :P
 8)

I got to about the 4 page when i decide that i would just plain ask, instead of reading the remaining ten pages.

I thought i found what i was looking for at « Reply #19 on: Jun 18, 2009, 08:04 PM », but when i clicked either link it gave me a message saying: An Error Has Occurred!
The topic or board you are looking for appears to be either missing or off limits to you.
Title: Re: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answered Qs
Post by: Kel Toi on May 07, 2011, 03:21 PM
I got to about the 4 page when i decide that i would just plain ask, instead of reading the remaining ten pages.

I thought i found what i was looking for at « Reply #19 on: Jun 18, 2009, 08:04 PM », but when i clicked either link it gave me a message saying: An Error Has Occurred!
The topic or board you are looking for appears to be either missing or off limits to you.

Ask the question now ner'vod ! Some boards are off limit's to un-official members .
Title: Re: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answered Qs
Post by: StormyHaze on May 07, 2011, 03:46 PM
I felt bad about not having the patience to read the entire thread, so i went back and did. So far the best answers to what I am looking for are to look at what Saz has to offer and M-DSB Merc Helmet, M/L. Im still looking around though, As I was expecting to pay a liiittle less than 150, not  including shipping. As per sizing, it was recommended that i get a jango 1 and 2 piece, for I am 5"6 and weigh.. Say, 122, if I were to guess. I don't know if that garners a small/petite or medium.
Title: Re: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answered Qs
Post by: Zahr Lestin on May 07, 2011, 04:09 PM
Ok so I went and built most of a WOF helmet and I think it is a little big still. I looked at my self in the mirror and it was way to big even if I was in armor. I think I am going to need a slightly smaller helmet than a 1:1 helmet. More like a hasbro size or DP size. Maybe someone should do a hasbro sized helmet! Like M-DSB! Call it the Merc slightly-smaller-than-the-XL. lol

Zahr
Title: Re: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answered Qs
Post by: Kel Toi on May 07, 2011, 04:17 PM
I would say a Small to Medium frame  could get away with a 2-piece size , anything above or in my case 5' 9" and 14.5 stones go for a 1:1 size , I can just about get away with a 2-piece , but i think a tad larger look's better .
Title: Re: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answered Qs
Post by: Kel Toi on May 07, 2011, 04:19 PM
Plus you have to remember the bucket will look very different with armour ON !
Title: Re: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answered Qs
Post by: StormyHaze on May 07, 2011, 04:32 PM
Would you not recommend a M-DSB Mercenary helmet size M/L for me then? Again, I was not sure if I count as a small or a medium. And while i know that size of head does not entirely matter too much (because padding could be put in), I don't want bobble head syndrome while wearing my armor (Youth/women size by shubiwon, if it matters).

To be honest im not very fond of the line down the middlei see in the 2 piece. :/
Title: Re: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answered Qs
Post by: Zahr Lestin on May 07, 2011, 04:36 PM
Yes I realize the bucket will look different with the armor on, but I still believe I could get away with a HBF. I am thinking right now that it would probably be the best bet for me to mod one. I think though that I should buy one just to see how I would look in a helmet like that. BTW I am 6'1" and I weigh around 160-165 so not that heavy and I am sorta skinnier. I guess I will have to wait until I get a HBF to find out. I am planning on following Falin's WIP except for a little difference in the cutting of it and the painting of it. But otherwise I think I am going to try and do the cheapest mod on a HBF. Anyways, wish me luck!

Zahr
Title: Re: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answered Qs
Post by: Kel Toi on May 07, 2011, 04:57 PM
Hard to say which bucket would suit you but for a starter an HBF is around a 1:1 size and a lot of work , I would save and buy a 1:1 size from Saz or MDSB .
Title: Re: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answered Qs
Post by: Kel Toi on May 07, 2011, 04:59 PM
Would you not recommend a M-DSB Mercenary helmet size M/L for me then? Again, I was not sure if I count as a small or a medium. And while i know that size of head does not entirely matter too much (because padding could be put in), I don't want bobble head syndrome while wearing my armor (Youth/women size by shubiwon, if it matters).

To be honest im not very fond of the line down the middlei see in the 2 piece. :/

Saz does a 2-piece size  ;)
Title: Re: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answered Qs
Post by: Zahr Lestin on May 07, 2011, 05:01 PM
I don't know yet what I am going to do for a helmet. Maybe I will make my armor and go helmetless! lol The helmetless Mando!

Zahr
Title: Re: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answered Qs
Post by: Kel Toi on May 07, 2011, 05:05 PM
If you read any of the helmet comments , be it a J2P or HBF both these take an osik load of work to get right . The cost would be around the same or probably more than buying either a Saz or MDSB !
Title: Re: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answered Qs
Post by: Mav Nexu on May 08, 2011, 12:56 AM
The J2P in that pic had to have ALOT of work done to it, to get up to CRL's. There's loads of tut's on the forums on how to do this, so I won't go into the detaills here, but it's not hard. Just time consuming.

You can get a J2P on amazon for about $30-$40. A few tubes of JB-Weld: $6 per. Including the paint, and the window tint for the visor ( I just retinted teh existing visor and reinstallted it) plus padding you're looking at about $100 to get this bucket complete and up to CRL's and ready to troop. Cheap, yes. Will it last? No. Eventually you'll need to upgrade to a higher quality bucket. But to get yourself started, it's the easy way and it'll last long enough that you can save some creds for a SAZ or an M-DSB. That's why I went with it anyway.
Title: Re: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answered Qs
Post by: Hondo Karr on May 08, 2011, 12:59 AM
Moral of the story: Better to spend $125.00-$200.00 now and get a bucket that is ready to roll and will last that spend $100.00 now and another $125.00 -$200.00 in a year or so.

The J2P in that pic had to have ALOT of work done to it, to get up to CRL's. There's loads of tut's on the forums on how to do this, so I won't go into the detaills here, but it's not hard. Just time consuming.

You can get a J2P on amazon for about $30-$40. A few tubes of JB-Weld: $6 per. Including the paint, and the window tint for the visor ( I just retinted teh existing visor and reinstallted it) plus padding you're looking at about $100 to get this bucket complete and up to CRL's and ready to troop. Cheap, yes. Will it last? No. Eventually you'll need to upgrade to a higher quality bucket. But to get yourself started, it's the easy way and it'll last long enough that you can save some creds for a SAZ or an M-DSB. That's why I went with it anyway.
Title: Re: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answered Qs
Post by: Mav Nexu on May 08, 2011, 01:01 AM
^ ^ ^
THIS.
Title: Re: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answered Qs
Post by: Kel Toi on May 08, 2011, 01:15 AM
Or go my dimwitted way an buy ALL ! Before i came here , I bought a 1-piece , then a 2-piece . I spent over a £1oo on both . Then i saw sense and bought me a Saz 1:1  ;)

(http://i931.photobucket.com/albums/ad159/Kel-Toi/DSC00680.jpg)
From left to right -Mandocommando,J2P,Saz 1:1, Falin's Legacy !

(http://i931.photobucket.com/albums/ad159/Kel-Toi/DSC00640.jpg)
The J1P is hiding under Vader  ;D
Title: Re: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answered Qs
Post by: Mav Nexu on May 08, 2011, 01:20 AM
LOL. I'm still buying another J2P...

And then buyiing a SAZ Krayt... and then a DSB.... lol.

Its a desease really.... buying up all these helmets. It's a burden.
Title: Re: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answered Qs
Post by: Hondo Karr on May 08, 2011, 01:21 AM
Id list all mine but, I think Im going to go to the "Which part of your costume have you upgraded most" Poll...

EDIT... done lol

I used the J2P for my kids. They are actually a hair big but cost wise they were a better choice with a longer shelf life than the Jango 1 piece.

My oldest son got his first "real helmet" for Christmas, an M-DSB M Assassin. My step son is still happy with his J2P. My youngest son has a 90% done Legacy V2 trimmed to his size. Hopefully Ill have pix up in a day or two. He's all happy because now he has his first "real helmet" too lol. Plus he's all happy because Dad made it for him and he got to help.
Title: Re: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answered Qs
Post by: Kel Toi on May 26, 2011, 11:38 AM
I thought this might help with sizing , My height is 5' 9" , Chest 48" . So im around average height and Large build .

1:1 Size (Saz)
(http://i931.photobucket.com/albums/ad159/Kel-Toi/DSC00750.jpg)

Legacy Version 1 .(Falin Skirata)
(http://i931.photobucket.com/albums/ad159/Kel-Toi/DSC00817.jpg)

Mando Commando . (Ick'tan Wesdar)
(http://i931.photobucket.com/albums/ad159/Kel-Toi/DSC00818.jpg)

Jango Two Piece . (Rubies)
(http://i931.photobucket.com/albums/ad159/Kel-Toi/DSC00821.jpg)

Jango One Piece . (Rubies)
(http://i931.photobucket.com/albums/ad159/Kel-Toi/DSC00825.jpg)

The Jango Two Piece works for my size , but looks small from the side .
Title: Re: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answered Qs
Post by: Janin Tal on Jul 16, 2011, 07:07 PM
Is the Rubies Jango "Collector's Edition" the same as the Deluxe 1-piece, size wise?

I know normally a 1-piece would be a waste, but I found one with a snapped off RF for cheap.
Title: Re: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answered Qs
Post by: Kel Toi on Jul 16, 2011, 07:26 PM
The pain in the -censored- sellers advertise the Deluxe ! Is the Jango 1--piece .
Title: Re: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answered Qs
Post by: Janin Tal on Jul 16, 2011, 07:40 PM
So, is that a yes? I know Deluxe is just another name for the 1-piece, I just hadn't run into the phrase "Collector's Edition" before.
Title: Re: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answered Qs
Post by: Kel Toi on Jul 16, 2011, 08:07 PM
This is the " Deluxe "  ,  This is the " Collector's Edition"  , This is the " Jango One Piece " !

(http://i931.photobucket.com/albums/ad159/Kel-Toi/DSC00825.jpg)

Same bucket as worn by my two yer old nephew .

(http://i931.photobucket.com/albums/ad159/Kel-Toi/DSC00872.jpg)
Title: Re: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answered Qs
Post by: Janin Tal on Jul 16, 2011, 08:12 PM
Alrighty, thank you, I was just a bit confused by your wording.

My 2-piece fits me fine, so once I add a craft ring to this, it'll be sorted.
Title: Re: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answered Qs
Post by: Kel Toi on Jul 16, 2011, 08:16 PM
The two piece doesnt need a craft ring ! The one piece does ... because it sometimes is warped . The craft ring shapes the one piece into a better shape !
Title: Re: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answered Qs
Post by: Janin Tal on Jul 16, 2011, 08:20 PM
I got that. I meant I'd be adding it to the 1-piece I'm getting, not the 2-piece I have... But because I have that 2-piece, I know fit won't be an issue.
Title: Re: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answered Qs
Post by: Kel Toi on Jul 16, 2011, 08:22 PM
Youve just confused the -censored- right out of me ner'vod !
Title: Re: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answered Qs
Post by: Jerek Darr on Jul 16, 2011, 08:23 PM
*Cough*not hard to do*cough*     ;D
Title: Re: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answered Qs
Post by: Janin Tal on Jul 16, 2011, 08:32 PM
Well, my confusion is resolved, at least... Here's what I meant, though.

I found a Jango 1-piece for cheap because it's RF stalk was snapped. I already have a Rubies 2-piece that I've nearly finished, but I wanted to snag this bargain because I've been tinkering with a second kit on the side. I just needed to verify that "Collector's Edition" meant "1-piece".

Since I already know my 2-piece fits me with room to spare for padding, a 1-piece should fit me fine once I've added a craft ring.

Better? :D
Title: Re: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answered Qs
Post by: Kel Toi on Jul 16, 2011, 08:34 PM
Near enough ner'vod  ;)
Title: Re: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answered Qs
Post by: Salvo Mereel on Jul 16, 2011, 08:48 PM
If you have a jango one piece, trust me, you are going to want to fierglass the entire thing inside and out. I only glassed the inside, to my bad luck. I left that thing in the sun and the earcap and cheek formed all strange.
Title: Re: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answered Qs
Post by: Kel Toi on Jul 16, 2011, 08:55 PM
If you have a jango one piece, trust me, you are going to want to fierglass the entire thing inside and out. I only glassed the inside, to my bad luck. I left that thing in the sun and the earcap and cheek formed all strange.

I wouldnt dream of fibreglassin the One piece ! Its rubber , recipe for disaster ! Fibreglass the 2-piece inside to  re-inforce it by all means .
Title: Re: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answered Qs
Post by: Hondo Karr on Jul 16, 2011, 09:45 PM
Keep in mind though... how a helmet fits your head has nothing to do with how it proportionately fits your body in armor. If you look back on the opening post of this thread, I can fit my head into that very 1 piece bucket and I look like I have a joojoobee for a head. In armor, to look proportionate to the canon sourcing... I need at minimum a 1:1 scale helmet and I usually ahve to mod those a bit for more width.

Post a pic of you in the 2 piece, whole torso. You don't need your armor on, just the helmet. That way we can tell you if your fine, need to go larger or smaller.
Title: Re: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answered Qs
Post by: Janin Tal on Jul 16, 2011, 10:05 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v418/The_Immortal_Phoenix/DSCF1078.jpg)

Voila. A 1:1 would look like a bit of a joke on me, I think.
Title: Re: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answered Qs
Post by: Kel Toi on Jul 16, 2011, 10:10 PM
The 2-piece fits you fine ! but remember that is without armour . Once you add a flightsuit plus flackvest thing's change . You bulk up a fair bit . Then you might need a bigger buy'ce .
Title: Re: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answered Qs
Post by: Janin Tal on Jul 16, 2011, 10:23 PM
It's more than half as wide as my shoulders -- 5/8ths or so, so I think I'll be fine. Though I suppose I could go take a pic in bucket and my winter coat, just to be sure.

And my beta-kit is rather light and sleek, (http://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/index.php?topic=39821.msg566302#msg566302) so the bulk won't be that great.
Title: Re: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answered Qs
Post by: Kel Toi on Jul 16, 2011, 10:28 PM
You remind me of my future Wife ! FFS . That bucket will do you fine . :) 
Title: Re: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answered Qs
Post by: Jerek Darr on Jul 16, 2011, 11:03 PM
Kel's right on this, I think the 2-piece is as small as you should go. I can't get the image of Falin as a ju-ju-be out of my head!!!!!!!
Title: Re: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answered Qs
Post by: Kel Toi on Jul 16, 2011, 11:10 PM
Plus you can always use those clothes peg's to hang that T-shirt on a clothes line Far Far Away ! lol  ;)


Kiddin  ;)
Title: Re: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answered Qs
Post by: ChapterEleven on Jul 28, 2011, 02:26 PM
So I just bought a hasbro boba because target had them for $17 buy am a little concerned it might be too big for me. I'm fairly tall, but really skinny. (6 foot and only 160lbs). Before I go modding it, will this work for me ?  Sorry for the blurry pic. That's the vest I will eventually mod and use for scale purposes. (http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g429/chaptereleven/armor/c053d061.jpg)
Title: Re: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answered Qs
Post by: Hondo Karr on Jul 28, 2011, 02:42 PM
Actually looks like it;s riding high on you, probably from the helmet liner. Sizewize youre almost what Jeremy Bulloch was in the films. It will likely work well for you once you put it through the mods.
Title: Re: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answered Qs
Post by: IG-88 on Jul 29, 2011, 12:23 PM
Just got my first bucket in the mail a 1:1 boba an it dosnt fit haha!
The cheeks are so deep I can't fit my head in. I'm going to try and mod it this Sunday/monday but I have a feeling I may have to keep it for when my sons older and scratch build myself one.  :-\

Sods law. Is this a common problem or is my head just massive haha.
Title: Re: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answered Qs
Post by: Hondo Karr on Jul 30, 2011, 12:40 PM
Probably a head shape issue. It could be you need a larger helmet, which basically mean scratchbuilding or, you need a helmet in the 1:1 scale without cheek indentations like my Legacy helmets.
Title: Re: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answered Qs
Post by: IG-88 on Jul 30, 2011, 07:11 PM
Yeah I've worked out that it's the cheeks. I'm going to mod it and see if I have any luck if not I'll have to seek other options.
Love your helmets however I cannot afford one and the UK postage haha.
Title: Re: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answered Qs
Post by: Hondo Karr on Jul 30, 2011, 09:19 PM
Try cutting your cheeks out and modding them or removing them altogether.

As a side note, postage is included  ;)
Title: Re: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answered Qs
Post by: IG-88 on Jul 31, 2011, 01:23 AM
Yeah that's what I was thinking.  I'll start a w.I.p page soon and keep you all posted.

Haha I'll bear that in mind when I come to do my second bucket.
Title: Re: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answered Qs
Post by: Dar'manda on Aug 01, 2011, 04:23 AM
so whats the size difference between dsb merc size  M helmet to fettpride's helmet?
Title: Re: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answered Qs
Post by: Hondo Karr on Aug 01, 2011, 09:57 AM
The MDSB M is approximatly the size of a Don Post 95/96 and the MDSB L is a 1:1 scale helmet. If you look through the thread, you will see pix of those size helmets together. Also, I believe Zev had posted his helmets side x side here as well. I believe youre wearing a Rubies 1 piece now right? a 1:1 scale helmet is going to be WAY to big for you.
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Post by: Arashi on Aug 01, 2011, 02:16 PM
I picked up one of the Hasbro Boba helmets on clearance today, primarily for use as a size reference...possibly to mod into a troopable bucket.  Since this is my first attempt at Mando armor/helmets, I wanted to check my sizing to see if this helmet would suit me size-wise to troop in, or if I should just stick it in with my collection of toys and work with one of the other helmets out there.

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-O_ckJmVvBYU/Tjbowtr8dKI/AAAAAAAAADE/oW8z2BAUlQE/DSCN1269.JPG)

To me, it looks pretty close to the right size, what do you guys think?  If I end up shelving this toy, I was thinking about either an MDSB Merc (M/L) or one of the Protofett helmets.
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Post by: Hondo Karr on Aug 01, 2011, 03:30 PM
The 1:1 scale helmet, which would be an HBF, looks about right. The M/L MDSB will be too small most likely.
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Post by: Arashi on Aug 01, 2011, 03:56 PM
So, if I went with an MDSB, I should go with the L/XL?
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Post by: Hondo Karr on Aug 01, 2011, 06:15 PM
Yup.
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Post by: Arashi on Aug 01, 2011, 06:26 PM
Great, thanks  :)
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Post by: Dar'manda on Aug 01, 2011, 09:59 PM
I have a dsb M  and is the don post the same as fett pride helmet?
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Post by: Hondo Karr on Aug 01, 2011, 10:02 PM
Must be Lt. sahz Im thinking of?

The M Merc is about the same size as the Don Post. The Fett Pride would be a 1:1.
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Post by: Dar'manda on Aug 02, 2011, 12:43 AM
I just dont like the dome on my dsb and looking for a better shaped helmet. Im looking at 2 potential helmets right now; the fett pride budget helmet or the Cucblack helmet.

I'm 5'11 180lbs and I do not want a really big helmet.

Thoughts?
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Post by: Zolar Kresh on Aug 02, 2011, 12:57 AM
This is me in my Don Post '96, I have looked around and tried to understand the sizing, but I am still lost. Should I mod this into a useable helmet, or try a different route?
(http://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j371/DukeCityGent/Beskargam/IMG_0679.png)
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Post by: Dar'manda on Aug 02, 2011, 01:31 AM
That looks like a 1 piece boba rubies and I may be wrong but I do not think they are acceptable here for the mercs
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Post by: Zolar Kresh on Aug 02, 2011, 01:38 AM
That looks like a 1 piece boba rubies and I may be wrong but I do not think they are acceptable here for the mercs

It is stamped "A Don Post Masktm Mask" on one side and all the copyright stuff with 1996 on the other. It maybe the Rubies one, as I know the took over the Don Post name in '96 ( if I remember right). If that is the case then I am going to be hard pressed to find a helmet that fits my big head.

I know that if it is the right helmet I need to cut out and replace the visor area with a "real" visor and fill in the dent. But I was more wondering if the size was right or if it is to small.
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Post by: Dar'manda on Aug 02, 2011, 03:06 AM
It looks too small; you will look bigger when your armor is on and the helmet will appear even smaller. Something larger I'd say
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Post by: Zolar Kresh on Aug 02, 2011, 03:33 AM
It looks too small; you will look bigger when your armor is on and the helmet will appear even smaller. Something larger I'd say

That is what I was afraid of, I have another bucket that is suppose to be a one to one... but it seems smaller then the DP one. I will post a pic of me in it once I finish fixing it.
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Post by: Dar'manda on Aug 02, 2011, 03:35 AM
Who is the maker of the 1:1?
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Post by: Hondo Karr on Aug 02, 2011, 10:45 AM
Zolar, that's definatlya  96 Don Post. Shape and paint are much different from the banned Rubies Boba.

It's definantly too small for you though. You'll need a 1:1. I may have an interest in that Don Post if you want to part with it though. I offer 3 helmet styles currently that are all 1:1's, I will have a 4th that will be too small for you soon and I am working on a Fett style 1:1 that will likely be ready before the end of August. Id be willing to do a trade with you if you're interested.

Capt... 1:1 helmet makers include Fettpride, MDSB, Forge Props, Jaiden Turrn Verda, AdamscottFM, I have 1:1's and there are a few others on Mercs here that float in and out.
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Post by: Dar'manda on Aug 02, 2011, 02:11 PM
I was asking Zolar who was the maker of his 1:1.

Ok so the don post helmets are not banned,  Even though they are made with that soft plastic? I thought they where the same thing so its just been on a shelf.
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Post by: Hondo Karr on Aug 02, 2011, 03:17 PM
I was asking Zolar who was the maker of his 1:1.

Ok so the don post helmets are not banned,  Even though they are made with that soft plastic? I thought they where the same thing so its just been on a shelf.

It's a different mold. The Don Post is a much cleaner and nicer sculpt. The Jango 1 piece is a nice helmet too. The Boba is a mess!
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Post by: Arashi on Aug 11, 2011, 09:26 PM
Well...seeing as how DSB is going on hiatus...getting one of his Merc L/XL helmets is going to be unlikely...whats my next best option in the same price point for a 1:1 helmet?
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Post by: Hondo Karr on Aug 11, 2011, 09:29 PM
AdamscottFM TCW Deathwatch
ASOK's Fett Pride Boba Fett
Jaiden Turr'n Verda's Proto Fett
Saz Fett helmet, Celtic helmet or Krayt Dragon helmet
Forge Props Fett helmet
My Legacy V1, V2 or Open Season's Deathwatch

Im sure there are others but, I cna't think of anyone off hand.

edit:
Or mod an HBF.

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Post by: Arashi on Aug 11, 2011, 10:37 PM
I am not a fan of the Deathwatch visors, and the Legacy buckets won't work since I am doing a modern kit, so that rules out AdamscottFM and yours.

I would prefer something 1 piece, with as little modification as possible, so the HBF and Protofett are out.

I would also prefer to go through a US based maker, as the shipping from the UK would cost almost as much as the helmet itself.

So, that leaves me with Asok and ForgeProps.  I emailed Asok to ask him about his helmets, I could only find a link to his run of cold cast Jango helmets, which I saw mentioned are about the same size as a DP95, which would probably be too small for me if I need a 1:1 bucket.  I may just have missed the thread about it if he has another, 1:1 helmet.  I do rather like the looks of the cold cast resin, so I may go that route once I hear back from him.

Thanks for the help.
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Post by: Zolar Kresh on Aug 12, 2011, 12:11 AM
actually you can mix a Legacy helmet with modern plates as they both fall under the modern era CRL's
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Post by: Arashi on Aug 12, 2011, 12:16 AM
Not a big fan of the legacy helmets, even if I can use one.  I did a little more digging around over at TDH and found the thread on Asok's Boba Fett helmet, looks great. Plus filling in the classic Boba dent shouldn't be too difficult.  Once I hear back from him, thats probably the route I will go with.  Unless DSB wants to squeeze out one last helmet before his hiatus.  :)
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Post by: Ref Al'drann on Aug 31, 2011, 11:18 PM
I frequent this thread a lot so don't doubt that I've done my research on this, but I've run into a snag.  I'm looking to upgrade.  I have a 2piece right now, but it just feels small to me.  It doesn't cover the back of my neck enough and I have to tilt it slightly to see out the visor correctly.  I'm a thin framed dude (somewhere between 5'10" and 5'11" 145lbs) and I know that a Don Post '95 or '96 would be my best bet, and a MDSB M/L would be even better, but I haven't seen a Don Post on sale in months (And I hear they need work, being made of vinyl and all) and, as we all know, DSB has a lot on his plate. I've made a couple WOF buckets and those seem to fit me pretty well, but I'm afraid I'll look like a bobble head in a 1:1. I've looked into Saz's 2piece sized buckets, but like I said, I feel like the 2piece is just slightly too small. Can someone with some insight on this give me some advice on what other options I have before I make a purchase?

EDIT: I've been looking into Asok's CC Jango over on TDH. Does anyone have anything to say about that one size wise? I would imagine a 1:1 Jango is the same size as a 1:1 Boba, right?
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Post by: Jerek Darr on Sep 01, 2011, 12:37 AM
Not nescesarily, Temmura was shorter than Jeremy Bulloch, so the Jango helmet was scaled down to preserve the proportions. Most prop scaling is to the actual movie prop, so a 1:1 Jango would be smaller than a 1:1 Boba, how much smaller, I can't say. I will invoke the name of the allmighty Falin, so he will arrive and shower us with his wisdom. However, he did metion the Adamscottfm clone wars bucket, it IS 1:1 Boba, but has a sleeker profile, so it might suit your needs.
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Post by: Hondo Karr on Sep 01, 2011, 10:03 AM
The ASOK Jango is 1:1 scale for Temuera and is much smaller. In fact the the Rubies Jango 2 piece is the same size (the story goes it was made from a slightly modded casting of one of the movie helmets, which explains other than some of the toy feartures why it's such a better sculpt than anything Ruies has ever produced.)

I would definatly say you're needing the Don Post sized helmet.  As for the M-DSB M/L, it's actually a hair smaller than the Don Post so, it may not be the best fit for you. Additonally to that, M-DSB is now permanantly disbanded. M will not be allowed to sell on Mercs. So, until DSB's life settles down and he's able to recast his own work, the helmets are effectivly off the market save what's already out there.

I know finding the Don Posts is starting to get harder and harder. They are popping up on ebay less frequently and here even less than that. I think between completist collectors and costumers, the supply of them is getting diminished.

One thing you could try if youre unable to find one would be to print the WoF templates at 90% instead of 100%, as there's approximatly a 10% size difference. Then once it's assembled, you can play with going up or down in size.
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Post by: Jerek Darr on Sep 01, 2011, 10:09 AM
I will invoke the name of the allmighty Falin, so he will arrive and shower us with his wisdom.

See, It worked!
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Post by: Ref Al'drann on Sep 01, 2011, 03:24 PM
Thanks a lot, Falin. That helped a ton!
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Post by: Peregrinus on Sep 02, 2011, 06:10 AM
I know from fiddling with templates in my lead-up to scratchbuilding that the Jango helmet is 99% the size of the Boba helmet. I still have trouble believing that, but the math works. All of the measurements are only that much smaller, but that still manages to result in a visibly smaller bucket.

--Jonah
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Post by: Phelan Jusik on Sep 05, 2011, 12:12 AM
Have to say that reading through this thread for the last couple of hours is mind blowing.  Questions about sizing and what not can be confusing.  Looks like I will try to scratch build my bucket first and go from there as well as keeping an eye out for mdsb coming later on.  Also helps just lookin at all the completed buckets for ideas and such.  I do have to agree that any build takes time even when you have to slowly purchase all the parts to make one.  I give credit to WoF for all the templates I have looked at and am lookin forward to working on them.  Correct me if I am wrong but with a scratch built you can adjust sizing and layout as you progress with the build. 
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Post by: Mirdala on Sep 11, 2011, 12:37 AM
I'm getting ready to order my buy'ce and I am needing a little help with the sizing. The one that I have on in the picture is an M-DSB M/L (Mercenary?) that belongs to one of our group. I think I look a little bobble-heady because I'm so small:

(http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f317/KatyaPryde/FairandBuyce004.jpg)

(Please note that she hasn't mounted the T-visor yet, which is why it looks a little wonky in the photo.)

Would a Rubies 2-piece be a better fit? If so I was planning on ordering one from Saz.

Thanks for your help!
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Post by: Hondo Karr on Sep 11, 2011, 12:42 AM
There's alot of deformation to the mandibles and T on that helmet... sure it's a M-DSB? That's very rare with the resin they used. I see you said the visor isn't installed but, that kind of misshaping still isn't typical.

Anyway, back on topic...

As for size, yeah even in armor it's going to be much too large for you.

A 2 piece Rubes Jango sized helmet most likely your playing field. That said, you may even be small enough to get away with the 1 piece Rubies Jango Deluxe.

If you opt for the 2 piece sized you have 3 options... Saz's 2 piece sized helmet, ASOK's Jango Fett helmet (it's 1:1 scale made from a mold of a movie prop helmet. It's the same size as the 2 piece Jango from Rubies) or the 2 piece itself.
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Post by: Mirdala on Sep 11, 2011, 12:59 AM
Thanks for the help.

I have found the info on Saz, but I'm searching and can't seem to find quite what I'm looking for as far as what ASOK has available or how to get in touch with them.

Still looking though...

 ???
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Post by: Zolar Kresh on Sep 11, 2011, 01:25 AM
Here is a link to Asok's thread in the Trading Station. He isn't offering what you are needing, but you can see his work and then PM him.
 FP Budget Boba helmet in COLD CAST (http://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/index.php?topic=41803.0)
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Post by: Blackbullet0 on Sep 11, 2011, 04:30 AM
Im new and am extremely confused as to where exactly the trading forum is.
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Post by: Jerek Darr on Sep 11, 2011, 09:46 AM
Im new and am extremely confused as to where exactly the trading forum is.

Click the "forum" link right under the mercs skull at the top of the page. scroll down and you will find a link titled 'trading staition'.
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Post by: Hondo Karr on Sep 11, 2011, 01:07 PM
ASOK's old Jango thread may have vanished but, if you contact him via email (preferred) or PM he can provide you pix. I know there are pix on TDH and I think the BHG. He got his hands on I believe it was either a damaged mold or helmet... Im thinking mold... from LFL that was used to make the Jango movie helmets. He made a casting, cleaned it up and made a new mold. So, short of a pull direct from the original intact mold, it is as close to screen accurate Jango as one is likely to get.
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Post by: Blackbullet0 on Sep 11, 2011, 01:20 PM
Thanks alot!
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Post by: Barbarossa Kad on Jan 03, 2012, 06:49 PM
I wear a size 8 fitted hat. The one size fits all hats are to small does anyone know if any of the ones discused would fit me or am I going to have to build me one from scratch. I just measured my head with a ribbon tape measure it is right at  25in around.
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Post by: Hondo Karr on Jan 03, 2012, 11:29 PM
Tough to say. My larger 1:1 helmets (which are actually a tad larger than a typical 1:1) are about 9-10" deep from visor to back and 8.5-9" wide from ear to ear (those are interior measurements) with exterior dome circumferences of 28-29" and face lengths of 8-9". Those are pretty big. The two with indented cheeks, the cheek drops in about 1". I also have a couple smaller buckets, 1 a small end of 1:1 with deep cheeks and one abotu the size of a Rubies 2 piece. Those would likely be much too small for you.

From personal experience of owning their helmets, I can tell you that Saz's 1:1 Fett and 1:1 varient helmets are nice and big and roomy and would likely fit you and Gypsyboy's 1:1 Fett helmet is as well.

Jaiden Turr'n Verda in Floriada makes some cool and cost effective ABS vac formed helmet kits. I havent seen one in person but, Jaiden is a good sized cat and I know he built them to fit him. He could offer more details on their size but I would be inlcined based on an educated guess, to believe they would fit you.

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Post by: Barbarossa Kad on Jan 05, 2012, 11:01 PM
Cool thanks a lot I'll have to give him a shout.
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Post by: Maz'oa Grey'Vard on Feb 08, 2012, 01:04 PM
Can someone help me find a dome ?
i have roughly enough republic credits avail.
Need a raw or unpainted one.
can assemble
Been looking everywhere but cant seem find one i like
please p.m. with price or whatever info will help
(not to jump in but seriously been looking forever)
Thanks
Chett
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Post by: Hondo Karr on Feb 08, 2012, 02:09 PM
Depends what kind of helmet you want and what size you need. We all advertise in the Trading Station, sometimes sales threads move a couple pages back due to other activity in the boards. There is a stickied "Who sells What" thread that is somewhat up to date.

What style of helmet are you looking for? A Fett style helmet? A canon, non-Fett helmet? A custom helmet?

Have you looked at the helmet sizing tutorials? Any idea what size you need? 1:1 Boba Fett scale? 1:1 Jango Fett scale? Something inbetween?
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Post by: Maz'oa Grey'Vard on Feb 21, 2012, 05:14 PM
Done found and purchased.....THANK YOU "Kilryth"
   ;D
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Post by: Vih'Torr on May 05, 2012, 02:04 AM
I need a little help guys, I have a fairly large head ~23 inches around above the ears. I was thinking about purchasing a HBF and modding it but I'm not 100% sure it will fit without more modifications than the current template for modding one. does anyone with a larger head (or know a Vode with a larger head who knows approx what helmets will fit a large headed person) have any experience with the HBF's and whether or not they will fit? I don't want to buy one and then find out my head would be smooshed against it.
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Post by: Hondo Karr on May 05, 2012, 10:23 AM
Plenty of room for your head in pretty much any 1:1 Boba scale helmets. The only issue you could run into with them is the cheek depth. There are 3 easy fixes to that... 1. get your 1:1 Boba scale helmet and if the cheek depth is too much, mod them 2. scratchnuild or mod an HBF 3. Legacy style helmets.
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Post by: Atina Kiele on Jul 15, 2012, 06:03 AM
If I"m 5'2" and 103.62 lb, should I still get the Deluxe Jango Fett Helmet Two pieces?

http://www.amazon.com/Rubies-Costume-Co-Deluxe-Helmet/product-reviews/B008H7UO90/ref=dp_top_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1
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Post by: Hondo Karr on Jul 15, 2012, 12:05 PM
What's your shoulder width? Youre probably 1:1 Jango scale (which would include the Jango 2 piece)... possibly the 1 piece Jango.
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Post by: Atina Kiele on Jul 15, 2012, 12:30 PM
shoulder with... haha... ermmm... lemme get back to ya... n i can't find a one piece jango.. this is a two piece, but it can connect, making it a one piece.
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Post by: Drogynn on Aug 03, 2012, 07:36 PM
Hi guys! Hopefully some1 would be able to help me with an helmet size issue?
Currently starting my very first armor and thinking about the helmet which is gonna be hard for me to make.. So I was thinking of buying one.

The issue I got is, I'm pretty short. Around 5'7" or 5'8", 143 lbs. And I measured the outline of my head to 23-24 inches. Ofcourse with room for the nose that would be an extra 1 or 2 inches.
Now what I really don't want is an helmet with too much extra room. Because I'm so short, the bobblehead effect applies very fast with most helmets so what I'm looking for is a good fit!
I do want to add some soft part to the inside of the helmet to make it an exact fit but I'd rather have it look a little bit small then to have it too large.

So I would very much appreceate any ideas. Is the rubies 1 piece jango kinda the smallest one out there?
Or better yet, is anyone able to measure the size of the inside?

Thanks!
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Post by: Hondo Karr on Aug 04, 2012, 12:08 PM
The best way to size the helmet is to use a 2:1 ratio between the width of your shoulders (without costume armor) and the width of the base of the helmet. It should be as close to 2:1 as possible. When you start dipping below or going over a 2:1 ratio you can end up looking like a bobblehead or a tictac head.

A 1:1 Jango Fett sclae helmet is usually about 9.5" wide. These include Saz's 2 piece Jango sized helmet, Asok's 1:1 Jango helmet, my ComMando and Night Owl V2 and the Rubies 2 piece Jango Fett toy helmet.

A 1:1 Boba scale helmet is usually about 11.5" wide. These inlcude darn near everything else out there. Most helmets as scaled in this size as it's size most, not all, costumers or/and prop builders need.

If you run somewhere in between in the two, it's best to error on the side of which you are closer too but, that could still not nail it right. A third option out there is the Don Post 95/96 Boba Fett helmet. They come in vinyl (realitivly cheap between 60-120... but they are getting harder to find) and fiberglass (can run near 1000 and are VERY difficult to find as they are a collectors piece). I dont know of anyone casting helmets in this size. My Super COmmando V1 was closer to this size than full 1:1 Boba but, Ive discontinued the mold.

Without knowing your shoulder measurement but, seeing you height and weight, I would lay wager you are most likely going to be in need of a 1:1 Jango scaled helmet.
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Post by: Drogynn on Aug 04, 2012, 06:06 PM
Thanks for the reply! I think you might be right on that one actually.
Though Temuera Morrison is a bit more musculair than me his height is exactly the same. And so is his body type.

The size difference between the 1 piece and 2 piece doesn't seem much. However, I like the shape of the 1 piece a little better and I think it will fit me best.
I found a rubies jango helmet on ebay for $60 which seems acceptable but it adds another $50 shipping cost to Europe which I don't like.
Is there anyone I can ask here to make a 1 piece for me? I believe Saz only does the 2 piece.
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Post by: Hondo Karr on Aug 05, 2012, 12:08 PM
No one, that Im aware of, casts helmerts in that size as they are simply too small. They really are only suited for children. They are narrower and shorter than the 2 piece. They are also vinyl which creates a whole other level of issues to contend with. Women typiclaly don't even use they as they are too small for them.
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Post by: Grim on Sep 10, 2012, 03:36 PM
My question is in regard to the helmet template sizes. Am I able to just print them off on regular sized paper then transfer to plastic or sintra or whatever I decide to make it out of? Or do I need to scale it up a bit? In this thread it just looks like the cut outs are larger than what my printer can do.
http://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/index.php?topic=12816.0
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Post by: bback on Sep 11, 2012, 03:13 AM
The helmet templates were designed to be printed off on an A size sheet of paper (most common in the US, also called letter size; 8.5x11").  There are also templates designed to be printed off on an A4 size sheet of paper (common in Europe, 8.3x11.7")

However, in my scratchbuild adventures, printing those at 100% makes them way too big.  Comically and unusably large.  The "Fill entire paper" option scaled it down to 40%, so I'm not really sure where the original scale comes from.  My first scratchbuild (at 40%) was too small for my big head and my glasses, so I'm working on another one now at 43%.  I actually just got to a point today where I was able to put a lot of components together, and I'm a little worried it's too big. :o

The larger pieces are laid out in a manner that makes it easy to print multiple pages and then tape them together.  The main cylindrical body, the top and bottom rounded forms, and the dome are some of these parts.  If you're saying that each piece is scaled larger than the paper and lines are running off the page, then it sounds like you don't have the right scale set.

If it's your first time, I'd recommend printing them out on cardstock or some other heavy-weight paper and assembling that.  You'll get a feel for the size and the process involved.

Have you seen Antman's scratchbuild tutorials?  They're very helpful.
http://www.thedentedhelmet.com/f23/antmans-second-cardboard-scratch-build-24821/ (http://www.thedentedhelmet.com/f23/antmans-second-cardboard-scratch-build-24821/)
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Post by: Solus Raam on Sep 13, 2012, 09:54 AM
I'm looking around for a 2 piece Jango for my wife if anyone sees one around.
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Post by: xGENOCIDEx on Oct 05, 2013, 05:21 AM
This may seem a little off but is there a way to possibly measure via hat size? For example, I'm roughly a 6 7/8 hat size which is rather small and this post has definitely steered me towards the Jango 1 or 2 piece. However, after seeing the photos with the armor I'm weary of such a small helmet (which would probably fit well). I guess what I'm getting at is there any sizing aside from a basic XS S M L setup? Thanks for your time
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Post by: Kel Toi on Oct 05, 2013, 10:50 AM
The Jango 1 piece wont fit ye mate, im 5' 8" and it looks tiny on me. Ye might get away with a J2P depending on yer shoulder width, but refer back to the start of this thread and size comparison.
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Post by: Kel Toi on Oct 05, 2013, 10:55 AM
p.s. Go to page 16 of this thread for my size comparisons.
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Post by: Pointoforigin on Oct 05, 2013, 11:12 AM
The problem with hat size as well is that some folks have larger or smaller heads vs the size of their shoulders - so if you went by your (let's say smaller) hat size and got a helmet to fit that perfectly, it'd look pin headed on you because you yourself have a smaller head. By going with ratio of helmet width to shoulder width you avoid any kind of issue in this regard.

Shoulder width vs helmet width is an easier comparison.
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Post by: Kel Toi on Oct 05, 2013, 11:15 AM
Aye, cos my mate Jock is a strange shape. We call him Oady doady, got a big heid and a wee toaty boady.
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Post by: xGENOCIDEx on Oct 05, 2013, 04:43 PM
The problem with hat size as well is that some folks have larger or smaller heads vs the size of their shoulders - so if you went by your (let's say smaller) hat size and got a helmet to fit that perfectly, it'd look pin headed on you because you yourself have a smaller head. By going with ratio of helmet width to shoulder width you avoid any kind of issue in this regard.

Shoulder width vs helmet width is an easier comparison.

I understand entirely. I've gone throught this thread and a lot of information has definitely been helpful. But when I read the measurements and try to guess where I'd fit better in I still am a little weary (mostly because I have a hard enough time fitting in adult costumes in the first place).

So heres a general idea of my body type and measurements.

Shoulders- 17 inches
Hat size- 6 7/8
weight- 125
height- 5'7"

Clearly I am incredibly petite for a guy which could give you an idea of how hard it is to find stuff that fits correctly.  :-[
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Post by: Ref Al'drann on Oct 05, 2013, 05:27 PM
You'll want any Jango sized helmet other than a Jango one piece. Try a two piece or a resin Jango helmet fromone of our sellers.
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Post by: Kel Toi on Oct 05, 2013, 05:42 PM
Yup, after the details a Jango size like Ref said should fit ok. The J2P is a lot of work to get right and nearly works out at the same price as it would to buy a decent lid.
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Post by: Mirdala on Jan 14, 2014, 11:14 PM
I currently have an ASOK Jango 1:1 as my bucket, but I'm looking at upgrading to a Bo Katan helmet. Do those tend to run slightly smaller? I tend to look a little bobble-heady in my existing rig, but Jango 1:1 is the smallest I could get without going completely scratch-built.

Who is currently selling them?
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Post by: Pointoforigin on Jan 14, 2014, 11:24 PM
Most Bo buckets are Jango sized. TMA (Kebiit'ra Verda) has Hondo's old moulds.
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Post by: DarthMae on Mar 10, 2014, 09:57 PM
22 pages.... Quite the thread...
Ok, I *thiiink* I have this figured. I'm 5'5'' tall(or, y'know, short), weigh 115-ish, and my natural shoulder width is 16''. I'm using pauldrons, which add 2 inches onto either side(20''). I also have a fairly long face(don't know how to measure that, though). I'm thinking, right now, that the Jango 2P size is right, and... I'd likely want to go with Saz's, which is 9.5(?)'' wide, so should fit my size ratio. Sound about right?
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Post by: Ref Al'drann on Mar 11, 2014, 01:19 AM
Yes. Don't worry about anything except shoulders and height is basically what this thread is saying. Any Jango helmet will fit you well. :)
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Post by: DarthMae on Mar 11, 2014, 10:24 AM
Awesome!!! :D Thanks, vode!! This was extremely helpful!!!!
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Post by: MrMetalArm on Apr 24, 2014, 12:53 AM
What about the helmets made by headshot props?
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Post by: Saz on Apr 29, 2014, 12:06 PM
As Hondo made the buckets, you can't go wrong with a helmet from Headshot.
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Post by: SITHONMYCHEST on May 02, 2014, 03:17 PM
Is nme props still selling helmets ??
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Post by: Siryn on May 02, 2014, 05:23 PM
So I'm looking to make a Legacy style Tes Vevec helmet (it's my first ever mando i'm working on), and I'm a plus size so I guess going by the fist post I would be a don 95/96? But I don't feel the dome is large/round/high enough to make the slits in it without it looking weird/squashed. I feel the rubies 2 piece would be a better shape, but might be too small for my body.

Does anyone have any suggestions? I'm a little overwhelmed with all of the options :) (oh and I would like a resin bucket since that seems to be the way to go)

Thanks!
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Post by: Xolad on May 28, 2014, 08:41 PM
Any words of wisdom for measuring our heads to find the best sized Helmet?
Title: I am looking for a Late Era Rohlan Dyre helmet...
Post by: RogerRoger on Jun 17, 2014, 12:23 AM
Can anyone point me in the right direction on who to contact?

Thanks!
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Post by: Zolar Kresh on Jun 17, 2014, 12:41 AM
Any words of wisdom for measuring our heads to find the best sized Helmet?
It is actually not your head you should measure. You want to measure your shoulders across the back at the base of your neck. Your helmet size is generally half that length. This is not a perfect way, but it is the best that has been figured out so far.

Can anyone point me in the right direction on who to contact?

Thanks!
That depends on what you are contacting them about. If it is for a Buy'ce then that depends on what style you want. If it is for something else, it depends on what you want.
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Post by: Matlas669 on Nov 09, 2014, 09:36 AM
So yes I'm new to the forums and looking at the tutorials for advice and ideas while I plan my armor design. My concern is my glasses for the helmet. I have had bad luck with contacts in the past and can't see without my glasses more than a few feet, and that's all blury. What sizes, or types would be good for use over top glasses, if any?
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Post by: Kitala-Enby on Nov 10, 2014, 07:50 PM
You don't size yourhelmet to fit glasses, size it to fit your body, Most helmets are kinda spacious, I have a jango 2 piece size helmet and (in my opinion) a kindabig head, I can still fit my glasses in even when wearing it with fans installed in the back. If you mention to  helmet builder that you have glasses someof them will try and keep as much space in the visor as they can. Another option is to take a pair of glasses, cut offthe legs leavingonly the frames (use very thin ones) and glue them into your helmet at eye level.
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Post by: doc_rocks13 on Aug 02, 2015, 12:40 AM
Does anyone have a link for gypsyboy so I can check out his helmets? thanks!
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Post by: MrMetalArm on Aug 03, 2015, 08:23 AM
It seems HeadShot Props isn't selling helmets on their Etsy anymore, where can I find a good helmet?
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Post by: Kitala-Enby on Aug 04, 2015, 05:57 AM
It seems HeadShot Props isn't selling helmets on their Etsy anymore, where can I find a good helmet?

I believe their etsy is just on active hibernation. you might be able to message Hondo (the OP) and buy one directly.
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Post by: Vaati on Aug 05, 2015, 06:30 PM
Check his facebook, he is still selling through there. I just bought one from him over the weekend.
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Post by: Gra'tua Tal Bes'bavar on Jan 07, 2016, 05:24 PM
Was wondering if anyone could help. I'm pulling the trigger on a 1:1 Boba Fett from Saz and need to ensure sizing would be right. My measurements are as follows:

Head Circumference Above Ears = 24 Inches
Head Height from Crown to Chin = 10 Inches
Shoulder Width = 18 Inches
Height = 5 Foot 9 Inches

Pretty much sure I'm right, especially looking at page 16. But, appreciate any help.
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Post by: Kavryn Falco on Jan 15, 2016, 10:59 AM
Your helmet should be roughly 1/2 your shoulder width - so 9-10 inches for you. A 1:1 may be a hair too big, but not outside the reasonable range. Add a little bulk to your shoulders and you'll be golden.
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Post by: mirsylus on Apr 17, 2016, 11:21 PM
Is nme props still selling helmets ??

NME Props is DEFINITELY still making helmets...  ;)
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Post by: Willhouse4078 on May 17, 2016, 12:16 PM
I am looking to start my own character and trying to figure out helmet size. Reading through what I could I believe a 1:1 helmet would fit me. I don't have my measurements but hat size wise I wear a large / extra large. Any suggestions on if I should do a 1:1 style helmet or look for something slightly larger. Height wise I am around 5'10 and about 225 pounds so average size and slightly larger frame.
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Post by: Bowfanny on May 17, 2016, 07:55 PM
I am looking to start my own character and trying to figure out helmet size. Reading through what I could I believe a 1:1 helmet would fit me. I don't have my measurements but hat size wise I wear a large / extra large. Any suggestions on if I should do a 1:1 style helmet or look for something slightly larger. Height wise I am around 5'10 and about 225 pounds so average size and slightly larger frame.
A simple hat size like large doesn't give us any information. If it was a size 8 or 8-3/16 that would be more helpful because that's roughly the diameter of a persons noggin.
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Post by: Willhouse4078 on May 18, 2016, 07:04 AM
Ok I will try and see if I can get some measurements done soon
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Post by: Kyram Sorenn on May 23, 2016, 04:22 PM
Would anyone happen to know the sizing difference between a Tomvader Juggernaut and a 1:1 boba? I'm trying to look into a new helmet, but I'm not sure what might fit me or not.
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Post by: Bowfanny on May 23, 2016, 04:42 PM
Would anyone happen to know the sizing difference between a Tomvader Juggernaut and a 1:1 boba? I'm trying to look into a new helmet, but I'm not sure what might fit me or not.
The juggernaut is bigger.
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Post by: Kyram Sorenn on May 23, 2016, 06:47 PM
 :( dang
I was hoping they wouldn't be much different. I've had a skirata arms "foxxtechj intimidator" and it squashes my nose. I'm looking for a Boba style buckect that would fit.
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Post by: Bowfanny on May 23, 2016, 07:45 PM
I think there's a larger boba style helmet out there on the market, either Tom Vader, or even One of the other makers I'm thinking their initials are KV or something.
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Post by: petegrfc on Jun 29, 2016, 07:14 AM
Just a quick question about shoulder width. How do you guys measure? across the back?

thanks