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Title: Sea_Marshall ESB Boba Fett WIP
Post by: Sea_Marshall on Jan 29, 2018, 07:25 PM
Copied from the Wolves of Mandalore forums to be part of the canon forums. Hopefully the contribution here will be helpful to others as well!

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Hey Folks,

I've decided to upload my ESB Boba Fett WIP on TheDentedHelmet.com. "TDH" is the leading authority and largest collection of Boba Fett builders on the internet. If you are seriously considering learning about Fett's armor build, this is the place to learn, if not directly from Fett owners/builders themselves. MMCC has their own Fett's and after speaking with Walter and Ma-Anne about their build, I was reinvigorated to create a WIP. I have decided to post to the TDH forums for the greatest amount of assistance and feed back, but if you are interested, you can follow that conversation with this link. 

https://www.thedentedhelmet.com/forums/threads/sea-marshall-esb-fett-wip.31024/ (https://www.thedentedhelmet.com/forums/threads/sea-marshall-esb-fett-wip.31024/)

In no way am I an authority in this subject, I just happen to be crazy enough to pursue it. There are much more knowledgeable folks, and I will be looking to them for answers to my own questions as well!

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I have collected a number of items over several months and plan to knock out a lot of the build in what little free time that I have. I have already begun, but the progress has been slow. I aim to pick up the pace and hopefully suit up and approve by summer. I will be prepping and painting my own kit, and I hope to receive help and feedback from this great community of Fett Fanatics. I have already had the pleasure of speaking with several folks from the community and have had the honor of meeting a few in person.

My aim is to build the kit per the 501st CRL Costuming: http://databank.501st.com/databank/Costuming:BH_Boba_Fett-ESB (http://databank.501st.com/databank/Costuming:BH_Boba_Fett-ESB) and cross check it with the Mandalorian Mercenaries CRL: http://mandalorianmercs.org/boba-fett-empire-strikes-back/ (http://mandalorianmercs.org/boba-fett-empire-strikes-back/) -- but I will not be following the strict "film accuracy/canon" build regarding parts, until I am able to troop with my standard build, rather I will upgrade over time and if I'm crazy enough, collect original 'found parts' over the years. I plan to attain a high quality status, but approval and troop status is the goal. I plan to at least have servos in the helmet, and LEDs in the Jetpack and Gauntlets.

Here is where I am as of 11.27.17:

Helmet per Wasted Fett
(https://i.imgur.com/ASxNzaX.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Ri2XMXf.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/hdJ1QXp.jpg)

"Hero" Armor per Wasted Fett
(https://i.imgur.com/sb6zhNr.jpg)

Jetpack per Man of War Studios
(https://i.imgur.com/3PDJLeT.jpg?1)

Soft Parts per Man of War Studios Gloves, Flight Suit, Rope Belt, Pockets, Cape, Vest (not pictured)
(https://i.imgur.com/N0OQBxM.jpg)

Gauntlets  and Shin Tools per Man of War Studios
(https://i.imgur.com/5B921cF.jpg)

Chest LEDs per Fettronics
(https://i.imgur.com/1vexKtx.jpg)

Boot Spikes per Evolution_Props (eBay) - Item to be upgraded with MachineCraft Replicas
Gauntlet Darts per Fenix Props (eBay) - Item to be upgraded with MachineCraft Replicas
(https://i.imgur.com/RjGH33V.jpg)

Boots per Man of War Studios
In Transit (ETA Dec 2017)

Alco MPA 106-D Pushbutton Switch
In Transit (Dec 4th Arrival)

Items missing for completion:
EE-3, Side Arm, Holster, Ammo belt, Gauntlet Tubing, Wookiee Braids (horse hair), Collar Studs

In the comments I will update my progression as photos are taken of steps leading to completion of each item. Feed back is welcome, as are links to tutorials that may be helpful. Here are a few that I am following, or will at least keep an eye on while I work on this project - which you may or may not be able to access, but are here for my reference.

Wasted Fett Helmet Assembly: http://wastedfett.com/index.php/boba-fett-helmet-assembly/ (http://wastedfett.com/index.php/boba-fett-helmet-assembly/)
Marie-Ann's Pro-Build: http://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/index.php?topic=115665.0 (http://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/index.php?topic=115665.0)
MachineCraft Replicas: https://www.thedentedhelmet.com/forums/threads/machinecraft-replicas-consolidated-sales-thread-boba-fett-metal-parts.24096/ (https://www.thedentedhelmet.com/forums/threads/machinecraft-replicas-consolidated-sales-thread-boba-fett-metal-parts.24096/)
Happy Trooper EE-3 DIY Build: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpHJ6KMtMlk&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpHJ6KMtMlk&feature=youtu.be)

I will be happy to leave reviews of my chosen items and post requested photos of each item or stage of my progress - please leave a comment or request. Thanks everyone.
Title: Re: Sea_Marshall ESB Boba Fett WIP
Post by: Sea_Marshall on Jan 29, 2018, 07:26 PM
Gauntlets from Man of War come with instructions to dremel out the resin plugs and degrease the resin mold release off.

(https://i.imgur.com/SkDY0HN.jpg)

I soaked the Gauntlets, bits, and shin tools for about 30minutes, then scrubbed with a brush until the rough texture of the resin could be felt instead of the smooth mold release agent. If you skip this degreased step, paint will not cling to the surfaces. It can be argued that you could thoroughly sand the surfaces, but as a best practice, I recommend soaking the resin items in degreaser and scrubbing the surfaces.

(https://i.imgur.com/YuZH92O.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/wvwLQr0.jpg)

I used 80 grit and 120 grit sand paper blocks to smooth out the surfaces. Also recommended by MoW is to lay a flat piece of coarse sand paper on a table and level out the rough edges of the gauntlet halves/seams. These particular gauntlets come with a hinge system to open and close the gauntlets. Flattening the surfaces is ideal to have a straight edge.

(https://i.imgur.com/RNN5kKR.jpg)

I have attached the hinges temporarily with Gorilla Glue to get the gauntlets fitted. I will be revisiting the hinges with a more solid adhesive, perhaps fiberglass, bondo, or other method. For now, it serves its purpose.

(https://i.imgur.com/EdPJ9Yv.jpg)

Flame Thrower Assembly: It is recommended to dry fit these parts as you put the weapon together. You may want to trim the tubes to fit your preference. Let the parts slide freely around as you determine the right length. It is worth noting that you may want to file the inside of the tubes and bits to make for a better fit on the pipes. It is also highly recommended to have a heat gun handy because in the case of a tight fit, you can heat the bits for a better shape on the pipes.

(https://i.imgur.com/A6ZCA2z.jpg)

It is worth noting that the resin gauntlets from Man of War did not have a perfect fit. As with many resin products, warping occurs and you may need to reheat the resin and reshape. I spent the better part of three hours reshaping the gauntlets to a perfect fit, and even then, it's pretty snug on my right forearm. The left gauntlet is great, but the right side is uncomfortable to wear and I will likely replace these at a later date. For now, they will do. Getting the seams to match when closed took a long time.

Note that the hinges are on the inside of the gauntlets. The outside of the gauntlets fortunately come with greeblies that cleverly disguise the seam.

(https://i.imgur.com/Un3752v.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Y8AgGnf.jpg)

Regarding the gauntlet closures, I have decided to use heavy strength magnets acquired from a Home Depot. These magnets are bulky, but cost $2.50 per pair and are ridiculously strong. They caused blood clots on my fingers when they snap shut. If you choose to use magnets, be aware they they can shatter if you snap them together too hard. I have heard of other closure methods, but I wanted something easy and I'm a big fan of magnets. Keep in mind that I plan to replace these at a later date for something more comfortable for my wrist size.

(https://i.imgur.com/lKasIRE.jpg)
 
There they are. Prepped for paint. I will be priming in gray, base coating in antique nickel, top coating in hunt club green, and hand painting everything else. I have yet to finalize colors.

(https://i.imgur.com/i16tMt9.jpg)

Feed back is welcome on your preferred methods of gauntlet closure, what gauntlets you have, and choices of colors, upgrades etc.

Thanks for following along.
Title: Re: Sea_Marshall ESB Boba Fett WIP
Post by: Sea_Marshall on Jan 29, 2018, 07:26 PM
Hey folks,

I managed to get a few hours in on the build - this is the dull, boring, same-ol'-stuff, but a crucial step to proper paint prep. I've found that doing these steps in one sitting is a good armor session to prep for the next phase: sanding.

Here's the Man of War Jet Pack in all its individual parts glory.

(https://i.imgur.com/e8tjUR0.jpg)

As with all resin casts, you're going to want to degrease the release agents off the items. Soak in warm water for 30minutes and scrub until you can feel the rough texture of the part. Soak longer and scrub again as needed, then let dry. Everything's drying so - you fine folks get a WIP update.

(https://i.imgur.com/wWU6739.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/v3xVhOJ.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/i4r9DsT.jpg)

Here's the assembly process on the instructions provided by Man of War Studios

(https://i.imgur.com/rvn5KTr.jpg)

Not included in the kit are the pvc pipe fittings to connect the jet pack thrusters on a swivel, instead of attaching them individually. I'll have to swing by a home depot to pick these up before my next step.

(https://i.imgur.com/O52EEhG.jpg)

In the next phase, I'll be sanding the resin to get rid of mold lines. Resin casts will always have these and it's worth the time to clean them up, otherwise they'll show up in your paint and looks like amateur hour. Other options will be to bondo the surface to balance the lines, then sand. I'll be sanding first and if the groove is still too deep, I'll clean it up with bondo.

(https://i.imgur.com/M1ITjER.jpg)

What jet packs do you folks have? The Man of War pack seems a bit heavy. I will be ordering MachineCast Replicas metal parts for the beacon and stabilizer at least. Those two parts looks like they can attach and detach easily. The greeblies look like permanent fixture and I'd want to finalize my jetpack before making those purchases. Does anyone have the NME Jetpack? What are your thoughts?

   
Title: Re: Sea_Marshall ESB Boba Fett WIP
Post by: Sea_Marshall on Jan 29, 2018, 07:27 PM
No real progress report here. Just acquired a few more items. Got the eye hooks installed, waiting for a good armor session to dremel out the jetpack and sand it down. Then I can pop in the thrusters and glue in the bits. Think the only metal parts I'll be adding on this one is the beacon and stabilizer.

The momentary switches arrived for the gauntlets (yay!) and picked up the braided vinyl tubing in 1/2inch, eye hooks and mini bungee cords.

(https://i.imgur.com/Ba6L9Ro.jpg)
Title: Re: Sea_Marshall ESB Boba Fett WIP
Post by: Sea_Marshall on Jan 29, 2018, 07:27 PM
Got a few hours of progress in today: Jetpack paint prep! Boring stuff, but needs to be done for a nice canvas. Got everything sanded to a good stopping point and have a few WIP photos for those interested in cleaning up the Man of War jetpack. I hear Man of War is moving to soft parts only? Or at least not doing hard part/resin runs any longer? Either way, I was fortunate to pick up one of his last ones then.

Here's a quick look at the parts after they were sanded down and rocket assembled.

(https://i.imgur.com/NC27akS.jpg)

Piano Keys! The part of the jetpack I've never paid attention to until I had to grind off a bunch of resin and use an x-acto knife to cut away the rest of the flash. Ended up grinding down the block until it was thin enough then dialed it in between the corners

(https://i.imgur.com/ONPuf3y.jpg)

I ended up attaching the piano keys to the pack after I sanded it down. The pre-shaped resin fit in pretty good, but I ended up using a heat gun to reshape the keys for a tighter fit on the corners.

(https://i.imgur.com/SdOTia1.jpg)

In the previous posts above, I noted how many seams there were to the casts. Fortunately they just came off with sand paper and didn't need any bondo work. Should be a nice smooth coat once paint comes in. Here's an after photo of the sanding for those wondering if they should clean up the lines. Yes, yes you should.

(https://i.imgur.com/DlROFPs.jpg)

I didn't spend much time on the back portion. But you can see the bungee installation on the eye hooks. I believe this should work. I knotted up the cord a bit to snug the fit more, but it appears that the thrusters will move freely if bumped.

(https://i.imgur.com/4ETeXqK.jpg)

And here it is! Almost in its glory. Still need to order the MachineCraft Replica's beacon and get the dental file for the stabilizer, but this thing is ready for paint! Pretty stoked to have gotten to this point. I will likely magnetize the rocket to the pack for disassembly and packing.

What to work on next?

(https://i.imgur.com/fQjMpWh.jpg)
Title: Re: Sea_Marshall ESB Boba Fett WIP
Post by: Sea_Marshall on Jan 29, 2018, 07:28 PM
Minor update while the holidays roll through. Put some time cleaning up Wasted Fett's FPH2 helmet. Great to work with! The filing and sanding was pretty easy going. Key slots are like a rite of passage.

(https://i.imgur.com/qxHBQjT.jpg)

Working on this helmet is a new thing for me. My first bucket came from NME props, The Mercenary, and when I received it, it was cleaned up and visor was installed. With Wasted Fett's I used a diamond dremel blade to cut out the visor. This was my first time using a dremel blade and working with a quality helmet like this. You can imagine my caution and see how far away I made the cuts. I didn't want to chance hitting the actual helmet itself.

(https://i.imgur.com/uIfz9b4.jpg)

I had originally planned to file out the helmet, but the work was slow going, so I got a piece of 100 grit sand paper and wrapped it around a piece of plastic and made a thin sanding block to work the edges of the helmet and clean it up. It worked way better than I expected. I hear others use painters sticks or scraps of sintra.

(https://i.imgur.com/QRT8mXQ.jpg)

For the corners of the visor I took a small file that I used on the key slots and trimmed back the left over cast before using the sand paper stick to smooth it out.

(https://i.imgur.com/6WfzctD.jpg)

Here it is, edges and key slots cleaned up. Still need to lightly sand the surface and clean up the range finder and ears. The details on Wasted Fett's FPH2 is great. There are scratches in the helmet that I know should be there for the paint, but I'll probably lose some of that detail in the prep. All good. It's nice to know that the quality and workmanship is all there though!

(https://i.imgur.com/9dFvjMM.jpg?1)
Title: Re: Sea_Marshall ESB Boba Fett WIP
Post by: Sea_Marshall on Jan 29, 2018, 07:29 PM
Another slow but steady WIP update. Finally found some time to belt-sand the armor rough cut (Thanks, Vinny!) then smooth out the edges and sand the surfaces for paint! Primer down, silver added. Now to get some masking fluid...

EDIT: The chest and collar plates are too thick in these images. The return edge should be more of a 3mm thickness.


(https://i.imgur.com/cUrLFef.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/lVs2BUD.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/QlAQmjL.jpg)

Filed out the chest for the LEDs. This looks to be about right?

(https://i.imgur.com/GvZx5or.jpg)
Title: Re: Sea_Marshall ESB Boba Fett WIP
Post by: Sea_Marshall on Jan 29, 2018, 07:29 PM
During the holidays, a few items arrived! Boots via Man of War and cod / collar studs, gauntlet darts, and borden from Machine Craft Replicas.

(https://i.imgur.com/e6hkQ9o.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/26OYUMh.jpg)

At the first anticipated Armory Party of the year, it afforded me some time on the belt sander and some open air to lay down the primer and silver base coats on my gauntlets, shin tools, and jetpack.

In a previous post, it was noted that the return edge of the chest armor was too thick, and bringing that to my attention is greatly appreciated. Here's a before and after of the thick edge compared to the trimmed armor. I was hesitant to trim it this low, but in the end it looks much better.

(https://i.imgur.com/pM3bDJJ.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/aF0wd5i.jpg)

Also found the time to dry fit the Alco push button switches and gauntlet darts. Stoked to finally have these fitted.

(https://i.imgur.com/HYc0BHG.jpg)

Spent the whole day watching paint dry. Put on the flat gray primer and followed with Satin Nickel for the base layers.

(https://i.imgur.com/zfAMG3P.jpg)

Now that these items are primed, I'll start on the masking fluid as I can. I'll be doing a layered paint job with some thick top coats to really give the armor and gauntlets a realistic chipped look. Really looking forward to the next time I can put down some paint. I have the Spruce Green (?) for the gauntlets and jetpack and hunter green for the armor. Great to finally get some extra time on the kit!
Title: Re: Sea_Marshall ESB Boba Fett WIP
Post by: Sea_Marshall on Jan 29, 2018, 07:30 PM
Updates! The Spruce green colored items are masked with Hubrol fluid. I really like that stuff. Easy to apply, but say good bye to your brush if you don't have a solvent for the masking fluid.

I've decided to push forward with my choice of color simply because the MMCC and 501st requirements for entry level Boba Fetts are not dependent on exact screen accurate colors. While I will do my best to match the reference photos, the TDH community's next level dedication to screen accuracy and replication will be something that I will strive to achieve some day. If I try to achieve that now, I will never move forward. Additionally, I noticed that 501st recently updated their Level 2 requirements for Boba Fett to include options that I had not prepped for, and I'm not going to scrap my progress. While I will achieve what Level 2 reqs I can, it's an end goal, not a start.

That said, the color requirements for both costume clubs simply refer to "medium green" "olive green" "darker green" or "green that varies from the armor" and that is a whole range of colors. I feel the colors I have selected will move me in the direction I need for the time being. This isn't in reference to the helmet, which will be it's own challenge. For now, I'm prepared to knock out the armor and soft parts.

I am doing a layered approach instead of a topical application. I will be layering paint to give a realistic chipping or worn effect that will naturally occur to armor and paint. Topically painting will yield a more accurate depiction of the screen images, but as long as I stay within screen accuracy guidelines, I don't see why I shouldn't pass. And if not, hell with it, I'll have a sweet set of armor I can be proud of because I put the work into it and the goal is to have fun with it.

Here we go! First layers of masking fluid is down. I may consider changing the jet pack paint from a layer to topical because it appears that the silver is revealed from rubbing away the top coat versus a paint chip from a blaster bolt as seen in the helmet and armor.

(https://i.imgur.com/a71ujki.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/8Rlx8aS.jpg)
Title: Re: Sea_Marshall ESB Boba Fett WIP
Post by: Sea_Marshall on Jan 29, 2018, 07:30 PM
Updates!

Masked the armor parts using stencils provided from RafalFett. The Hero armor from Wasted Fett and the stencils are not sized to match. I suppose a I could have magnified the image before print with some testing, but meh. I ended up using the stencils as a guide line and free handed the markings, which will take from the accuracy, but will suit my needs. Also to note is masking and layering vs topical painting for weathering effects. For some parts I ended up opening the file on my laptop and sized the image to fit the size of the armor plate and matched the markings. Have a look and be the judge.

I could not, for the life of me, locate a single Humbrol vendor, and I went to 5 separate paint vendors in my area...Decided to stick with rattle can colors: Hunt club and spruce green. Will have to sort out some airbrush colors to dial in weathering.

The collar was the first attempt. I've masked the silver and gray portion as a single part and will hand paint in the gray as a middle layer between silver and green. This is when I discovered the stencils were proportionally incorrect and began to free hand instead.

(https://i.imgur.com/0sY1ZsG.jpg)

Left chest plate masks yellow and silver and will hand paint yellow as the middle layer.

(https://i.imgur.com/1TQehyc.jpg)

The right plate has very little silver weathering, but a large patch of dark gray (base metal), and a darker green/gray (lark gray). With the recommended colors, I didn't feel like it was a match and decided to mask the silver and dark gray area on the left. I will be painting over the silver area in gray to still give the chipped look and will topically apply the lark gray areas as a stain to the paint rather than a chipped layer. (added the masking in a later photo)

(https://i.imgur.com/GhtnrMN.jpg)

The back plate was pretty straight forward and just used the online image to guide the mask.

(https://i.imgur.com/Wrxt7AL.jpg?1)

Same with cod and kidney.

(https://i.imgur.com/05bXVAT.jpg)

Here's what I came up with before laying down the Hunt Club green layer.

(https://i.imgur.com/qezfDU7.jpg?1)
(https://i.imgur.com/grSQxuZ.jpg?1)

Now I wait for the paint to completely dry and cure before I start peeling away the maskol and applying yellow and gray. Achieving the carbon scoring and weathering appears that I will need to airbrush on the damage to get the best effect, perhaps touch up the green to give it that brighter color I see from the Bespin hallway.

(https://i.imgur.com/5cYok4v.jpg)

In addition to the first paint layers going down, I've sent out payments for the ESB Belt and Wookiee Braids. Still need to obtain boot spikes and jetpack beacon from Machine Prop Replicas, and need to sort out the EE-3, Pulce 40 and holster. Locking pin backs are in transit after I read through Fettastic's thread for attachment method. Ugh, and sort out the jetpack harness.

When I get the chance I can lay down Spruce green for Gauntlets and Jetpack. Next to mask are the knees and shoulders. Following that I can begin weathering the soft parts: girth belt, flightsuit and boots. It's getting there! It seems attainable. And... then the helmet. That's a whole another project by itself. When I get there, I'll be stoked because it's the cherry on top.

In the end I decided to go with my chosen colors and free handing the maskol because the requirements for the costuming clubs (which is my end goal) states: "Weathering reasonably matches visual reference", colors are "medium dark green", with exposed silver damage. Pretty mellow considering the amount of attention the Dented Helmet community puts into the detail. Part of the fun with this build is being able to do what I can without reaching out to others for assistance and doing the work for me. With that, I can accept any errors or mishaps that happen along the way, learn from it, and improve the skills for the next one.

Thanks for following along! It's a long journey for sure.
Title: Re: Sea_Marshall ESB Boba Fett WIP
Post by: Sea_Marshall on Jan 29, 2018, 10:10 PM
Just got a lesson in patience when I decided to paint on an overcast, relatively cold morning instead of waiting for the sun to be out... the rattle can decided to gunk up and spit debris into my top coat on the ab plate and pool with lack of heat to cool it fast enough...

The Horror: good job, noob.

(https://i.imgur.com/ByZEqLf.jpg)

Fortunately only the ab plate took the hit, but I'll have to strip it down and lay down new coats, which will likely set me back a week just on this one item. A lesson in patience indeed.

I decided to take the opportunity to test the maskol and started to strip it away. Here's a side by side of the result. Granted, I didn't wait for the paint to completely cure, but I'm scrapping the paint job anyway.

(https://i.imgur.com/Z9008HN.jpg)

Not too bad. Definitely want to have thicker coats of the maskol for a better result, but even the this pieces came off with little difficulty. Just rub a ringer across the top of the layer and it rolls right off. Obviously the longer you wait for the paint to cure, the less will pull up on the edges of the maskol; semi wet paint will pull on the edges and peel up more than intended - you can see the differences in some parts. That said, the result is good and detail stayed.

If I were to continue, I'd be painting the yellow along the green, but instead, I'll share my failures with you. One day I'll invest in an airbrush. Next armor upgrade for sure.
Title: Re: Sea_Marshall ESB Boba Fett WIP
Post by: Ashen Kelborn on Jan 30, 2018, 03:17 AM
ESB too, you really are going great guns.
Keep it up buddy  ;D
Title: Re: Sea_Marshall ESB Boba Fett WIP
Post by: Mi'ix on Jan 30, 2018, 09:27 AM
Bummer about the paint.

Are you planning on taking this to the brigade level?
Title: Re: Sea_Marshall ESB Boba Fett WIP
Post by: Sea_Marshall on Jan 30, 2018, 11:39 AM
Bummer about the paint.

Are you planning on taking this to the brigade level?

I sanded off the paint and can now reapply when I get a nice day of weather. Easy and a nice reset.

Brigade level? I was unaware of such a thing. I'll poke around and look for reqs. :laugh:

Yes. I'll be taking this to brigade level.
Title: Re: Sea_Marshall ESB Boba Fett WIP
Post by: Ashen Kelborn on Jan 30, 2018, 11:52 AM
I sanded off the paint and can now reapply when I get a nice day of weather. Easy and a nice reset.

Brigade level? I was unaware of such a thing. I'll poke around and look for reqs. :laugh:

Yes. I'll be taking this to brigade level.

Is there anything worth doing that isn't brigade level?  :P
Title: Re: Sea_Marshall ESB Boba Fett WIP
Post by: Mi'ix on Jan 30, 2018, 02:02 PM
Awesome! That's what we like to see.

Are you planning redoing your whole paint job or just the ab plate?

I'm about to paint my chest plates so you'll want to make sure you have some varying shades of green. Your left chest plate, collar, and back plate are all going to be the same green.  Right chest and ab plate are going to be a little bit lighter and the diamond will be the darkest since the ESB Hero turned out to be a mismatch of various suits.

You and I are using identical parts for this project and you've done a great job so far! Looking forward to seeing what you do with it!
Title: Re: Sea_Marshall ESB Boba Fett WIP
Post by: Sea_Marshall on Jan 30, 2018, 02:14 PM

I'm about to paint my chest plates so you'll want to make sure you have some varying shades of green. Your left chest plate, collar, and back plate are all going to be the same green.  Right chest and ab plate are going to be a little bit lighter and the diamond will be the darkest since the ESB Hero turned out to be a mismatch of various suits.

You and I are using identical parts for this project and you've done a great job so far! Looking forward to seeing what you do with it!

Yes, I'm aware of all the shades. I'm just putting down Hunt Club green as the Med/Green req. I will likely revisit the plates at a later stage to airbrush on the shades, lighten the plates, and add weathering. Only the ab plate got sanded down because of the mishap. As I near the finish line, which is a marathon away, I'll put more time into the color detail. I went to a variety of paint shops and can't seem to find the right colors and will likely order the colors online once I acquire an airbrush.

I hope to do the plates justice! Just moving it along to get it done and will sort it out if it's not up to par.
Title: Re: Sea_Marshall ESB Boba Fett WIP
Post by: Mi'ix on Jan 30, 2018, 04:29 PM
Airbrush is definitely the way to go! 

I've got a working color list I would be more than happy to share with you!
Title: Re: Sea_Marshall ESB Boba Fett WIP
Post by: Kebiin Ke'Varek on Jan 30, 2018, 04:46 PM
Mi'ix is not only the Canon Division Captain, he is an excellent source of information in this department.  Keep in mind that the Brigade Team is here to help and guide you throughout the building process.  It is important to note that in a Canon build, it all has to be right, down to the colors....so his suggestion above is a good one.  You won't be able to cover the wrong color scheme with weathering, so he is simply aiming to help you there by giving you (REALLY GOOD) advice.  No one is here to insult you or your build in any way,  EVER, so never take what we say as anything but constructive, to get you and your kit to the highest possible level.  ;)
Title: Re: Sea_Marshall ESB Boba Fett WIP
Post by: The Unknown Mando on Jan 31, 2018, 01:41 AM
Awesome work so far vod, nice selection of parts too
Title: Re: Sea_Marshall ESB Boba Fett WIP
Post by: Sea_Marshall on Feb 03, 2018, 12:44 AM
Decided to scrap my paint job, invest in an airbrush, and pick up the appropriate humbrol paints before moving forward again.  :-\
Title: Re: Sea_Marshall ESB Boba Fett WIP
Post by: Ashen Kelborn on Feb 03, 2018, 02:58 AM
Heart breaking buddy but probably a good move if you want that finer detail.
Looking like I'll have to do the same with my Jodo too, so i really feel for you  :'(
Title: Re: Sea_Marshall ESB Boba Fett WIP
Post by: Mi'ix on Feb 03, 2018, 08:36 AM
I'm sorry to see that Sea Marshall.

I saw your PM, I'll get back with you either tonight or tomorrow since I'm kitting up a couple times this weekend.
Title: Re: Sea_Marshall ESB Boba Fett WIP
Post by: Sea_Marshall on Feb 04, 2018, 01:05 AM
Ah, it's no big deal. Its a primer, silver, mask, green. And I my gauntlets, jetpack, shoulders, and knees are still at a good stage. So just the chest, back, cod, and kidney. Agreed, the finer details will show and I'll be happier that I reset. I still have a long way to go, so this is a minor set back in the bigger picture.

I read up on the TDH forums and it appears that lots of folks are using enamels. I've only ever painted with acrylics, but I'd image thinning enamels would still have a nice look. I wanted to approach the paint with multiple layers of paint to really get a chipped feeling to the armor, but even after the coats I put on, it doesn't look much different than a topical application. The masking layers with thin airbrush coats will give better detail and the accuracy of colors will make all the difference.

Already sanded down a few pieces and reapplied the primer layer. Came out nice, so that's a definite win. Thanks for following along! This only my second kit and painting something this detailed is a new challenge. I knew I wanted to do a Boba, but made my rando to see what goes into the hobby.
Title: Re: Sea_Marshall ESB Boba Fett WIP
Post by: Sea_Marshall on Feb 15, 2018, 02:31 PM
Updates!

After screwing up my rattle can paint job, I decided I didn't like the color after all and achieving the weathering would have to be airbrushed anyway. Add to that the Flight Suit, boots, and cape can all be airbrushed for weathering, so I broke down and invested in a relatively inexpensive airbrush with a few needles, compressor, and ordered the appropriate paints from Humbrol online.

(https://i.imgur.com/IxGozwl.jpg)

I've finally finished stripping and sanding the original rattle can color and have started to prime the pieces back to masking prep. Fortunately the shoulder and knees are still primed. Here's the current state as of last night:

(https://i.imgur.com/TsE4Htk.jpg)

Never doing that again, and let me just recommend to other first time Fett painters: Just do it right, get the right colors, and invest in the airbrush... I've already dumped a bunch of money into the suit, what's another couple hundred bucks for a sweet tool that will be used on just about EVERYTHING. At least three other folks told me the same piece of advice and now I'm kicking myself for trying to cut a corner.

Other things in prep:
Fabric dye for the Man of War flight suit (I'm considering an Arkady suit in the future, but will work with what I have)
(https://i.imgur.com/UmEFfVX.jpg)

Locking back pins for armor attachment. Fettastic's post on attachment method (TDH) seemed simpler, cost effective, and user friendly, so I jumped on it too. Should be an easy replacement if it doesn't work out, but appears this will be a great method.
(https://i.imgur.com/z06BXPo.jpg)

Wookiee Braids! per Woodman, found on Dented Helmet. Fast turnaround, great product.
(https://i.imgur.com/i4twX3u.jpg)

And finally got the ESB Belt! per Delta Leather Works, found on Dented Helmet. Fast turnaround, great product.
(https://i.imgur.com/3QJCNno.jpg)

Jetpack beacon should be shipping from Machine Craft Replicas soon, then will sort out electronics on that front.

Once the weather warms up, the last primer/base coats will be going down, masking again, and then I can take the airbrush for a spin. Progress is ramping up! Finish line is still a ways off, but it's coming down to the last laps.
Title: Re: Sea_Marshall ESB Boba Fett WIP
Post by: Mi'ix on Feb 15, 2018, 03:38 PM
Glad you're rocking this out, dude!

I sent you that PM about paint a little while back. I hope it was at least a little helpful.
Title: Re: Sea_Marshall ESB Boba Fett WIP
Post by: Sea_Marshall on Feb 20, 2018, 02:39 AM
Updates! Some successes, some failures. Learning A LOT with this build. Posting WIPs helps keep my sanity and overcome hangups.

I decided to scrap my paint job with the rattle can, got everything back to masking prep:

(https://i.imgur.com/AZoPfLZ.jpg?1)

Attached jeweler pins with locking backs for attachment method, using Fettastic's method. Haven't attached them to the vest yet, but used super glue and covered the bases with epoxy putty. Feels solid, looking forward to testing them on the vest.

(https://i.imgur.com/jRlGMHw.jpg)

Got the Spruce Green base coat down on the Gauntlets and Jetpack:

(https://i.imgur.com/XJFS2sn.jpg)

Drilled in screws for the rocket mount.

(https://i.imgur.com/3MIx8bR.jpg)

Then went nuts working on the Gauntlets into the wee hours of the morning. Calling it good for now, will likely revisit touchups before completion.

(https://i.imgur.com/DdhbkhQ.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/psXtTnY.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/K4vwbPi.jpg)

Also put some time into the jetpack:

(https://i.imgur.com/qHWk8VU.jpg)

Waiting on the beacon to ship and want to get some color variation with an airbrush soon.

Also took a stab at dying my flight suit, which resulted in utter failure...

(https://i.imgur.com/NPSoiEu.jpg)

Turns out I could have used a quarter, or less, of the blue dye to hit the mark. Instead I used .75% of the bottle and the 100% cotton sucked up the color effectively making it Jango colored. I then took dye remover to the suit in an effort to fade it to nothingness using more than was recommended and discovered it was useless, even blotched the color in some places. Some weathering will save the blotches, but the overall color is a disaster. In an effort to salvage the suit, I'm going to try a bleach/water method to bring the color intensity down, but it's probably a lost cause. I had considered upgrading to an Arkady flight suit because the Man of War suit was tight around my arms, but now it's seeming more of a need to upgrade, haha.

Ah well, two steps forward, one step back.
Title: Re: Sea_Marshall ESB Boba Fett WIP
Post by: Jennari on Feb 20, 2018, 02:43 AM
Keep up the good work, ner vod! Learn from your mistakes; soon it'll be perfect.  :)
Title: Re: Sea_Marshall ESB Boba Fett WIP
Post by: Mi'ix on Feb 20, 2018, 09:13 AM
It's alright.

Looks like you made yourself a Pre-pro 2 suit!  You should be able to lighten it with some RIT dye remover. 
Title: Re: Sea_Marshall ESB Boba Fett WIP
Post by: Ashen Kelborn on Feb 20, 2018, 09:16 AM
if blotchy now, thought of bleaching and re dying with a thinned blue?
OR boil wash and tumble dry several times to fade and weather?
Title: Re: Sea_Marshall ESB Boba Fett WIP
Post by: Sea_Marshall on Feb 20, 2018, 04:01 PM
It's alright.

Looks like you made yourself a Pre-pro 2 suit!  You should be able to lighten it with some RIT dye remover.

  ;D The idea of having a PP2 suit really cheered me up.

I'm going to give it two more washes with RIT dye remover. After the hang dry this morning it looks salvageable.

if blotchy now, thought of bleaching and re dying with a thinned blue?
OR boil wash and tumble dry several times to fade and weather?

The discoloration is manageable, some soot will take care of it. After a few more fades we'll see where I stand. I'm worried about tumble drying. It's already a little tight around the arms so further shrinking could require me swear off food and drink for a week.  :laugh: I'll take the bleach route as a last ditch effort to save it.
Title: Re: Sea_Marshall ESB Boba Fett WIP
Post by: Sea_Marshall on Feb 22, 2018, 03:02 AM
Updates! Just finished a three day battle with my flight suit. I terribly underestimated the powahhh of both fabric dye and bleach. But I learned a lot about how it works in the past 72 hours. Within this post are my successes and failures regarding fabric dye. I had no previous experience and just went for it - no proper science at all. I don't recommend doing what I did, but failure is the best teacher? (Yoda)

Beer buddies backyard setup: Propane fueled stainless steel 10 gal. brew kettle and wash basin. 

(https://i.imgur.com/NPSoiEu.jpg)

Dumped 75% of the Royal Blue RIT dye and 100% Pearl Gray into a 7.5 gallon wash of 180 degree water after letting salt dilute for about 10 mins.
The result was WAY too dark:

(https://i.imgur.com/MNShbAm.jpg)

I put a total of 7 RIT Dye Removers into the suit.
Quick Notes: Apply boxes to washing machine, let water dilute the powder for about a minute, add clothing, let wash as normal. If the clothing comes into contact with the powder and water directly, it will unevenly discolor your dyed fabric.

(https://i.imgur.com/835xVNh.jpg)

I was pretty annoyed that I couldn't fix the color using the RIT remover. In my defeat, it was noted by several people that my result was equivalent to the Pre Pro 2 Fett flight suit -- that cheered me up knowing I unknowingly did something cool. But I needed to get my color faded, and I was losing sleep over it.

At 3am I decided to bleach the suit in my bathtub. I ran an unknown amount of hot water into the tub, and applied 3/4 cup of bleach to the mix.
Quick Notes: Internet tutorials say to apply a 1 (bleach) to 10 (water) solution and let sit for 10-15 minutes. I applied 3/4 a cup to a tub of water and the bleach went to work in less than a minute.

(https://i.imgur.com/8vPtHZ6.jpg)

Fun Fact: Royal blue uses a pink dye to achieve the blue color. When bleaching the royal blue out, it turns hot pink. :eek:

I panicked at first, but then used gloved hands to shake the pink out in the tub to get an even removal of dye. Once I saw most of the blue was gone, I pulled the plug and rinsed until the water was clear. The result was a purply-gray, but at least it wasn't PP2 Blue.

(https://i.imgur.com/VMrYx4N.jpg)

Later that day I returned to battle to add blue back into the literal mix. I added a tablespoon of "RIT Royal Blue" to bring back the dark blue, and added a tablespoon of "RIT Evening Blue". I joked that the Evening Blue was to 'even' out the blue. ...:lol:

(https://i.imgur.com/OR703MW.jpg)

Equipped with the knowledge that 100% cotton soaks up color like a sponge, I added a small amount of color to hit, what I figured, was the mark. It's unfortunate that I could have done this at the beginning, tested a 100% cotton sock or rag, and got this on the first attempt. But no, I had to go "learn something".

(https://i.imgur.com/WceWxc9.jpg)

I checked the solution for color, figured it was enough, then soaked the clothes until I saw the blue color come into the cloth. Happy to see the purple-gray went away with the Royal Blue, and the Evening Blue made it pop that bluish hue. I removed the clothing, rinsed until it was clear water, then put it into a standard wash cycle.

Here's the dried fabric, indoor lighting (tungsten), juxtaposed to the Bespin Hallway reference photo. The camera exposure isn't quite right, but I'm happy with the color. The suit will also appear differently in the sun, which I will update at a later time when I try it on.

(https://i.imgur.com/2utyWnZ.jpg)

Having conquered my flight suit nemesis, now I'm a hot shot, and boiled water on my stove, added a small amount of RIT Dark Brown, and dyed my rope belt Reddish-Brown.

(https://i.imgur.com/HxFJncK.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/oH5UOCy.jpg)

My take away from dying fabric:
1) Don't underestimate how strong the dye is
2) Test a swatch and save yourself the anguish of reducing the color
3) Don't underestimate how strong bleach is
4) Start with small increments and add more to achieve the desired color
4a) If you think you need a certain amount, dial it back a little.

Anyway. Success! Huzzah. You made it to the end. I'm glad this battle is over. On to the next one.
Title: Re: Sea_Marshall ESB Boba Fett WIP
Post by: Ashen Kelborn on Feb 22, 2018, 03:28 AM
Very nicely done, really glad your patience paid off and you got what you wanted  ;D
Title: Re: Sea_Marshall ESB Boba Fett WIP
Post by: Sea_Marshall on Feb 23, 2018, 07:53 AM
Minor update.

My first "found parts" came in. I almost don't want to open this, just because. Reasons. Found on B&H Photo, these were on back order for at least a month or two, but eventually shipped. I'll likely paint the casts from Man of War first and see it it clears the approval process and tuck these away as a collectible keepsake.

(https://i.imgur.com/qguTsSQ.jpg)

Also decided it was time to put some weathering on the Man of War boots! Taped off the middle stripe and airbrushed thinned black enamel paint. Airbrushed the base with black, then followed up with a thinned dark gray for the rest of the boots. You'll see the stock color is a light gray, the dark is more in line with film references. I took some sandpaper to the surface to rough up the boots a bit.

(https://i.imgur.com/B6DPQwu.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/tRFZt2Y.jpg)

Jetpack Beacon is ready to ship from Machine Craft Replicas, but on ice waiting for the Toe Spikes to replenish and ship as well. Once the spikes show up, I'll be popping those on and weathering that detail.

How do you attach the spikes? It appears to have screws, and the first set I got from eBay had screws. I've been following Mi'ix's posts and seems industrial velcro does the job. I was thinking I could install my first set with velcro and walk them until I lose them and install the backup, quality set from MCR. I'm sure either will fit the approval process.

And did anyone see the MCR request for Aluminum Ears?! Orders taken until March 2018. I'm getting in on that, if only to have them tucked away for another project, or added to this one.
https://www.thedentedhelmet.com/forums/threads/aluminum-fph2-ears-by-machinecraft-first-likely-only-run.31307/ (https://www.thedentedhelmet.com/forums/threads/aluminum-fph2-ears-by-machinecraft-first-likely-only-run.31307/)

Moving forward faster now it seems. Lots of paint to do.
Title: Re: Sea_Marshall ESB Boba Fett WIP
Post by: Mi'ix on Feb 23, 2018, 09:15 AM
Ha, I actually cut into my shin tool parts last night!

I did see that MCR is doing a run of the aluminum ears.  I sent them an email to get in on that.  Considering it comes with a hollow stalk as well that sweetens the deal for me. Boots look good.
Title: Re: Sea_Marshall ESB Boba Fett WIP
Post by: Sea_Marshall on Feb 23, 2018, 08:29 PM
Ha, I actually cut into my shin tool parts last night!

I did see that MCR is doing a run of the aluminum ears.  I sent them an email to get in on that.  Considering it comes with a hollow stalk as well that sweetens the deal for me. Boots look good.

That's awesome. Yes, the hollow Ear is a definite plus! I was just talking with folks in Dec about the rarity of aluminum ears. Glad to be part of that order!
Title: Re: Sea_Marshall ESB Boba Fett WIP
Post by: Sea_Marshall on Mar 05, 2018, 01:20 AM
Quick update: Masked all the armor and then used an airbrush for the first time and kind of knew what I was doing.

(https://i.imgur.com/V6tJuYS.jpg)

Put on a light layer of yellow then masked the next layer, prepped for greens.

(https://i.imgur.com/U3PikYR.jpg)

Put down a yellow layer on all of the armor, then went over the knees and shoulder with an orange/yellow mixture.

(https://i.imgur.com/Ls36kfY.jpg)

At the end of each color, I added a bit of black to darken the shades a bit and went over the damage areas to bring out some color variation. I may End up revisiting the left knee to add some more yellow in, and likely revisit everything in the end with some black.

(https://i.imgur.com/G82kIF5.jpg)

Pretty happy with the way things came out for the airbrushing attempt.
Title: Re: Sea_Marshall ESB Boba Fett WIP
Post by: Mi'ix on Mar 05, 2018, 08:32 AM
That's looking really good, dude.

I'm glad the airbrushing is working out for you!
Title: Re: Sea_Marshall ESB Boba Fett WIP
Post by: Sea_Marshall on Mar 31, 2018, 02:55 AM
Progress!! And some time to talk about it. I ended up changing jobs and put a halt on the build. Once I stabelized, I got a lot done.

Eventually cut into the knees and popped in the dart launchers after the tips got painted up. Put on the white elastic attached with snaps mounted to a piece of komatex.

(https://i.imgur.com/6y7MdsS.jpg)

Boot spikes from Machine Craft Replicas were put on the boots. Weathering to come later.

(https://i.imgur.com/BgQpgiy.jpg)

In the interest of time, I ended up fashioning an old backpack strap, metal ring, and 1.5 inch white nylon strapping to make my jet pack harness. The gaff tape is temporary until I could judge how long the straps needed to be relative to the jetpack, hooks, and backplate.

(https://i.imgur.com/RFa9iD2.jpg)

Turns out my estimation was spot on, just needed to cinch the backpack strap a bit to level the pack. I also got the vest marked for button holes for the straps to feed through. Setting the hooks on the jetpack, measuring the height to the backplate and accounting for the weight it held, was a chore. I can see how the dive harness would steady the jetpack vs. the makeshift, but it will do for now :D

(https://i.imgur.com/rFYKaGV.jpg)

Talking with other Fetts, this is the part of the build where you must absolutely have a handler. I imagine there is someone out there who made a Jetpack, back plate rig, but I suppose being a squire for Boba Fett has it's benefits right? :D

Also! Jetpack beacon by Machine Craft Replicas. I put in two white LEDs running on a 9v battery attached to the inside of the jetpack. It doesn't flash, but hey, the beacon is lit! Mandalore calls for aide.

(https://i.imgur.com/mwUi5US.jpg)

I'm missing the white dot, a decal on the back, and I just acquired a Silver dental file that I'll paint blue, donated by Syper. Cause, I don't have that stuff laying around like he does, haha.

Big news! Here's my before and after paint job, Rattle Can vs Airbrush Humbrol colors.

(https://i.imgur.com/yzu6yro.jpg)

I suppose I could have kept the darker green and airbrush the counter shade (I learned a lot about airbrushing, really fast) but decided, if I'm going to airbrush some of it, might as well do all of it. So here's the masked and painted kit, all free handed using RafalFett's stencils.

(https://i.imgur.com/jQ7vFa3.jpg)

I temporarily installed the chest LEDs so I can at least admire it. Final placement for another time. Any suggestions on how to mount this to the back of the plate? I'm unsure how to approach it.

(https://i.imgur.com/H1CA6sW.jpg)

By the way, all of the armor was acquired from Wasted Fett. June will be a year marker since I first ordered his Hero set of armor. I haven't worked with many abs or costumes in general, but the workmanship and quality of his product is spectacular.

I still have to apply the Fett sigil and Mythosaur skull. I am uncertain about how to approach the stencils and again, don't have the patience to sit down and do it. But maybe... I might paint them on. I still have some time to think about it. It the interest of time, I picked up these decals from DeLucksDesigns.net. Got extra skulls because vinyl stickers. 

(https://i.imgur.com/lMBbbzz.jpg)

Wasted Fett also makes an FPH2 (Fett Pride Helmet v2?) helmet and it's amazing stuff. I want more. I will likely pick up another.
My most recent work has been on the helmet. I got it sanded, primed, laid down the base coats.

(https://i.imgur.com/WyroRuU.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/8a8HChJ.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/YwNtzG0.jpg)

The back panel will get masked, then airbrushed the blue-green it needs, but that will be all the masking on the helmet, except the killstripes.

I finally broke down and decided to topically paint the helmet, despite my initial desires to mask. I feel the helmet has too much detail and capturing that in a mask would require a tremendous amount of work that I'm really not patient enough to do, haha. I was staring at the silver base coat ready for masking for a few days and knew I couldn't move forward until I masked the whole thing, and I found myself scrapping the mask and starting over. Ain't got time for that. So I just base coated the primary colors and will move forward with a topical application and it'll be great.

(https://i.imgur.com/KQ78fay.jpg)

Anyway - weather has been nice and I've had a bunch of Boba days. Silicon Valley Comic Con (SVCC) is April 6-8th and I'm looking forward to taking the kit for a test run! I am missing the weapons and holster, but am getting a spot in Sidewinder's next production run. So the goal right now is take the kit for a test run in two weeks, take pre-application photos, send them for review, and work on the fix list while the weapons move along production.

Almost there. The end is in sight.
Title: Re: Sea_Marshall ESB Boba Fett WIP
Post by: Sea_Marshall on Apr 03, 2018, 02:59 AM
Moving fast! Trying to finish the helmet in a week flat.

I decided to do a topical paint job. I really wanted to do the masking because i like the way the layers look. Unfortunately I don't have the patience to mask everything as I had originally planned. I kept looking at the helmet knowing I needed to mask, but couldn't find the motivation. But to pick up the airbrush and lay down base coats for topcial? I could get behind that.

I spend a good deal of this build fretting over the helmet. Dreading the day I would have to paint it. To be honest, the helmet is probably the most enjoyable and satisfying thing in the whole kit. It even required the least amount of prep compared to the armor and resin kits. And now, all I want to do is get home to paint.

I did the left cheek first, then the right, then the left half of the visor in one paint session. I'm using reference images and free handing the paint job using locations as a "landmark" where to put paint down. I think it took about 6 hours, 2 per section.

(https://i.imgur.com/F4J3eAE.jpg)

I got home after work and put down the right visor and cat scratch leading to the top of the dome. Took two hours to get that part done. I'm pretty happy with this so far.

(https://i.imgur.com/vIAwB7Q.jpg)

I might do the kill strips before I do the dent comet. I still need to do the back panels but I've been putting them off. It's a mess of colors haha. The rest of the helmet is gray, maroon, and silver. The dark gray and maroon are great complimentary colors, they help disguise errors or messed up paint jobs. Also allows you to paint in some detail over other areas that might have too much of one color.

Anyway. This thing needs to be done by Sunday.
Title: Re: Sea_Marshall ESB Boba Fett WIP
Post by: Mi'ix on Apr 03, 2018, 04:20 PM
Sorry bud!

Been slacking on following up with this.  It really looks like you're rocking and rolling!

I probably should've taken pictures of how I installed my board on my protector, BUT I used a lot of hot glue.  My big concern was lining it up properly with the cutouts so I ended up taking a little extra 3mm sintra and cut two long rectangles from it that I glued just above and below the cutouts in the plate.  They acted as a guide so I could slide the chest lights into the appropriate spot and just worry about the alignment from left to right. 

Title: Re: Sea_Marshall ESB Boba Fett WIP
Post by: Mavik on Apr 04, 2018, 12:11 AM
Lovely work on this build
Title: Re: Sea_Marshall ESB Boba Fett WIP
Post by: Sea_Marshall on Apr 06, 2018, 02:06 PM
Got the helmet done last night! Well, done as far as con ready goes. I'm wondering if I should matte coat the whole thing or airbrush on a black/gray wash. Not sure how the final look would be, but here's a selection of photos of the last stages!

This is the completed front with the dent down.

(https://i.imgur.com/3sNpJsP.jpg)

Here's my attempt at the Kill Stripes. I went looking for measurements, but discovered that the hemet size is dependent on the maker -- so I eyeballed it. The stripes lined up with the landmarks of the painting okay, but I masked them a little too short and the bottom wasn't conturing to the surface of the dome.

Here's the fresh mask with the fade and the mistakes present after the reveal. The stripes wave and the paint isn't sharp.

(https://i.imgur.com/gHeESpm.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Lxc5SuY.jpg)
I revisited the kill strikes individually  and straightened them out, detailed the damage, and blended the yellow and orange to match the stripe fade.

(https://i.imgur.com/SMHxcR6.jpg)

After tightening up the killstripes, I worked around the back of the dome and did the top of the helmet using the ESB reference photo from Bespin. I was drawing out the damage geographically wrong, but after referencing the photo, just swung the damage forward to point at the dent to salvage the paint job. As you will see, only the keen sharp eyed folks of TDH would ever give me flak. :D The famous dent is also a bit larger than referenced, but that's my own fault just using the printed guides and not having the film reference open to compare physical size.

(https://i.imgur.com/DXmvaTu.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/n1h5h3k.jpg)

Here is my final product. I still have to sort out washing the helmet or matte coating the helmet to pull all the colors together. The original colors are very vibrant and will take it for a test run as is before deciding the next step.

This is my first helmet, definitely not the last. After reading about painting level of detail, I think this is somewhere past 'costume', but a ways off from 'archival' o_O

I'll post up a photo once I get suited up for the first time! I will also document out what my gear looks like once I find some time to lay it all down. The plan was to get this suit "table top ready" and good enough to do a troop in without being spot on identical with found parts. If there is anything I have learned about costuming, it's to take it slow and upgrade over time once you have something that's 'good enough'.

Thanks for following and commenting! Upgrades are going to be never ending, but I'm at a really good stage and can suit up. Just waiting on a list for the sidearm, holster, and EE-3. Minor tweaks, then application to 501st and MMCC. Can't wait to put it on this weekend at Silicon Valley Comic Con!!!

Here's the completed obligatory selfie.

(https://i.imgur.com/VFeULkp.jpg)
Title: Re: Sea_Marshall ESB Boba Fett WIP
Post by: Sea_Marshall on Apr 11, 2018, 06:26 PM
I got to take the suit out for it's first test run this weekend at Silicon Valley Comic Con. I learned a lot, and the first thing that was apparent was that I should have tried everything on at home, not at the con o_O

Besides having all of the pieces, I didn't have final prep on a few items and of course they malfunctioned at some point. The range finder needed additional work to secure it's position, the rope belt needed a backing to keep the strands under control, as well as longer nylon straps (I didn't anticipate the length to go over the top of the cod!) and the ammo belt wasn't positioned the way it should be. The jetpack strapping system also threw me  when I realized the straps were on the border of the vest, and could be seen once in a while. Also, didn't have the jetpack securely fit. Oh, and lets not forget that I didn't have time to matte coat the armor, or wash it in any way to subdue the colors and tie it together. Weapons! Yes, I have no... weapons... how inadequate am I??

Good enough for a con! rofl. Strategically hidden tape held a few things in place. :lol: It was a good test run and it made mistakes apparently pretty quick.

Here's my front, left, right, back. I didn't get to look in the mirror at all. I'm aware of all the issues, believe me. The only reference I had were photos and I had to learn on the fly. Fortunately I had @14killstripes to give me some pointers. The major thing I learned was to keep your chin up and you can't look anyone directly in the eyes, you're always looking down your nose, over the visor to keep that Fett look about you. Otherwise the helmet sinks low and makes it seem you don't have a neck! The more you know...

(https://i.imgur.com/9xrk8MZ.jpg)

Here's a side by of the Bespin continuity shot:

(https://i.imgur.com/KDoIo8o.jpg)

The colors recommended from the "paint by colors" template floating on TDH could have a few shades darker on the green. I wanted to follow recommendations before striking off on my own for color choices, but in the end, this is Mk. 1. It should do good for a while before I decide to take the costume to the next level and really dial in the colors and paint job. It's close enough and some changes are already being made.

First update was to subdue the colors by airbrushing a black shade (Citadel's Nuln Oil). No thinners, just right out of the bottle to the airbrush. It acts as the black wash, allowed for light shading, and after a few coats it cleaned up surface scratches, muted the colors, and helped blend the battle damage and topical paint job.

Top two are from the con, bottom two are subdued after the shading:

(https://i.imgur.com/2jpq3vU.jpg)

To solve the rope belt dilemma of loose strands, it was suggested to glue down the strands to Craft Foam, a .99cent sheet from Michaels Crafts store. I'll be picking up some new nylon strapping to help with my XL body type. I used Gorilla Glue Gel to bind the foam and the rope. Fun fact: the gorilla glue chemical mix caused the foam and rope to smoke when bound together. It fused together forming a rather solid bond. I'm sure hot glue would have been fine.

(https://i.imgur.com/A4nuUEI.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/KLk0B1a.jpg)

Anyway. That was my first stroll and everything stayed on despite a few costuming hiccups. Next con is San Francisico Comic Con in June! I'll be making a few more updates and changes to the suit and hopefully take it for Round Two. Doubtful, but hoping to get the weapons before then - I'm on the unofficial wait list for Sidewinders' resin EE-3 and sidearm kit with no timeline established yet.

More to come.
Title: Re: Sea_Marshall ESB Boba Fett WIP
Post by: Sea_Marshall on Apr 23, 2018, 04:21 PM
While I wait for a production run of a resin EE-3 and Pluce, I've decided to scratch build an EE-3 to hold me off until the kit comes in - which has an undetermined amount of time on it.

I used the video found on youtube or HappyTrooper.com to make an DIY ESB EE-3. Its about $60 in parts and the build is probably 10-12 hours of work. I really like the way the first one is coming out. I got enough materials to make two, because, why not? :D

Looking forward to another prep session to get it sanded smooth for paint. Trying to get this ready for May 4th then upgrade/finalize it for submission quality. The woodgrain on the stock should look pretty cool.

(https://i.imgur.com/FbGwmyg.jpg)
Title: Re: Sea_Marshall ESB Boba Fett WIP
Post by: Sea_Marshall on Apr 29, 2018, 11:06 PM
Updates!

I'm naturally impatient and wanted to get an EE-3 in time for May 4th, so I used the HappyTrooper.com EE-3 tutorial. Seeing as this is a scratch build, my goal isn't screen accuracy, rather silhouette accuracy. I will, however, keep an eye out for upgrades but will see how this holds me over. Might even get approved.

Basic shapes and rough fit:
(https://i.imgur.com/FbGwmyg.jpg)

Wood epoxy shaped on the barrel, sanded down:
(https://i.imgur.com/ODyFdOW.jpg)

First coats of black primer!
(https://i.imgur.com/xVnqa8G.jpg)

And a stain for the rifle stock:
(https://i.imgur.com/eEmzSTm.jpg)

Getting there.
Title: Re: Sea_Marshall ESB Boba Fett WIP
Post by: Sea_Marshall on May 01, 2018, 01:10 PM
Quick update. I'll be doing the engraving on the grip today and painting it brass/bronze, as well as some other detail work. Just waiting on the mounting clips and I can attach the scope. Still have to put porting on the barrel too, will have to sort that out.

(https://i.imgur.com/DnrSuzA.jpg)

Also, I was watching ESB for some Boba training and I heard, for the first time, the spur sounds of Boba Fett as he walks in various sets of Bespin. So I went to a local Michaels and found some bells that sound close enough to the sound clip. I plan to put these in my shin too pockets and hopefully they'll clink when I walk!

Can't wait to suit up again! So many changes have been made since my last test run.

(https://i.imgur.com/MhAXMmW.jpg)

Got my pockets with foam, lined the rope belt, shaded the helmet and armor, weathered the flight suit arms, vest, and the EE-3 is coming along great. Holster is in the mail, still not sure where to acquire a Pulce 40 sidearm though... Still need to sort out RF lights and servo, but mainly lights.
Title: Re: Sea_Marshall ESB Boba Fett WIP
Post by: Mi'ix on May 01, 2018, 03:39 PM
That's a good idea on the spur front.

I've got some metal bits hanging in the void behind my knee darts that do the same thing.
Title: Re: Sea_Marshall ESB Boba Fett WIP
Post by: Sea_Marshall on May 06, 2018, 12:28 PM
May 4th gave me the unique opportunity to take my kit out for a run with the 501st GGG when they visited my work campus. I attended as an employee with a really nice Boba Fett kit. :lol:

I also had a chance to lay out my gear and take reference photos for fine tuning equipment. So much more to do before formal applications take place. This is my new base level as I upgrade the parts to be more accurate and comfortable to troop in. There are a number of items that have long wait times to acquire and my choice of equipment sped up my ability to kit up and take it out for free events. I'm in chats with several vendors to round out my equipment.

Immediate upgrades needed:
Big Dane Jetpack Harness
Mike M Gloves
Arkady Flight suit, vest, neckseal
Sidewinder EE-3, Pulce, holster

(https://i.imgur.com/lRFT0Cp.jpg?1)
(https://i.imgur.com/cWNXLHZ.jpg?1)
(https://i.imgur.com/8OQYCoa.jpg)

Helmet:
- FPH2 cast by @Wasted Fett
- First paint up
- Static rangefinder with nut and bolt
- Lights and RF upgrades planned for future.

(https://i.imgur.com/ZC1MYvv.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Fy67TBV.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/W80xGvu.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/bdfmb2s.jpg)

Armor, Accessories, and Soft Parts:
- Flight suit, vest, neck seal, gauntlets, boots, jetpack, shin tools, girth belt by Man of War Studios
- Planned upgrade soft parts to Arkady at later time.
- ESB Hero armor cast by @Wasted Fett
- Armor attached with locking back jeweler's pins
- Ammo belt by @Delta13Mike
- Wookiee Braids by @woodman
- Cape by 14 Killstripes. Donated as a spare from material he had remaining.
- Metal Accessories by Machine Craft Replicas: JP Beacon, Collar/Cod Studs, Gauntlet Darts, Toe Spikes
- EE-3 built using the Happytrooper.com tutorial - first attempt. Intended to have the correct silhouette, despite inaccuracy.

(https://i.imgur.com/QpuU7qp.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/CKoGuXU.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/YUFh6E8.jpg?1)
(https://i.imgur.com/Y6yBmwI.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/GxUPG6f.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/jBEWEOA.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/VvmwvEX.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Fco6f7S.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/HkIWta0.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/de3Expq.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/5RJqN9P.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/FTRc7uu.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/nUf7GZg.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/59rypuE.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/xigDHNe.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/8xrd25W.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/QwkbqZO.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/ronOrRn.jpg?1)
(https://i.imgur.com/TupIOCt.jpg?1)
Title: Re: Sea_Marshall ESB Boba Fett WIP
Post by: Sea_Marshall on Jun 15, 2018, 11:52 AM
Dropping off a few test-run photos from the San Francisco Comic Con. Everything worked out and stayed put. I have lots of upgraded items in the works: new flight suit, vest, neck seal, gloves, jetpack harness, and still waiting to pull the trigger on the rangefinder upgrade for BRLs. But this suit should check out for 'basic Boba'. I need to upgrade my girth belt to a larger size and dye. I can't see the belt in the rear as the overall length is a few inches too short. Hopefully that doesn't hold me back - CRLs just mention a gap between buckles, no mention of gap distance however. You can see where it ends on my hips, just on top of the kidney plate. I also need to upgrade my EE-3, which I have the Mk II items ready for construction. I've since acquired screen accurate molex connectors and still need to remove the text on the scope.

Since the last test run on May 4th, I've made tweaks, touchups, and fitting changes. A matte coat was applied to the whole armor set to lock in color and protect the surface. The major difference is I'm 10 pounds lighter in the new photo set. Gear fits much better!  :laugh:

Still awaiting my long lost Holster and Pulce 40. Should have them by end of next month and attached to the kit. Any thoughts on this rig? Just looking for basic Boba as I have upgrades in the works for BRL and Infamous.

(https://i.imgur.com/rRoAtdd.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/pM3Dd22.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/V3ZzuVj.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/K63EiVt.jpg)
Title: Re: Sea_Marshall ESB Boba Fett WIP
Post by: Mi'ix on Jun 15, 2018, 12:14 PM
Wow! This came together really quite nicely for you!

Hopefully that nemrod and pulse 40 will arrive in the mail quickly!

What is your Boba thong made out of? It looks to be nylon instead of elastic?

I would pop those braids out from under your shoulder plate and have it so they're resting over it.

Make sure to weather your flightsuit a bit more especially at the calves and your thigh pouches. Vest looks pristine as well. I like the weathering around your double sleeves, but next to the vest there's no consistency.
Title: Re: Sea_Marshall ESB Boba Fett WIP
Post by: Sea_Marshall on Jun 15, 2018, 12:52 PM
Wow! This came together really quite nicely for you!

Hopefully that nemrod and pulse 40 will arrive in the mail quickly!

What is your Boba thong made out of? It looks to be nylon instead of elastic?

I would pop those braids out from under your shoulder plate and have it so they're resting over it.

Make sure to weather your flightsuit a bit more especially at the calves and your thigh pouches. Vest looks pristine as well. I like the weathering around your double sleeves, but next to the vest there's no consistency.

Hey thanks man.

Yes, the thong is gray nylon. The BRLs ask for gray/white nylon or elastic.
Agreed on the braid placement. I need to put in a velcro tab and sinew to hold it in place. Tucking under the shoulder was a quick solution.
The weathering is a battle with lighting. I hear outdoor shade is the best light source. Here's a few photos where the weathering is more visible. Thoughts welcome on that. The vest was airbrushed with gray, arms are black. The calves are considerably darker than my thighs. I could revisit those areas for sure, just don't want to over do the weathering.

Thanks for the feedback! Greatly appreciated.

I used this image as reference for the pant weathering, but agree that I can revisit the pockets:
(https://i.imgur.com/mTQhyJr.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/faWBwwK.jpg?1)

(https://i.imgur.com/MhgqPTs.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/gJCCt3U.jpg)

I might just have to check with the lighting when I submit for apps. That delicate balance lol. Here's the vest and pants from another lighting perspective. Might have to hit the vest with black to bring out the color more.

(https://i.imgur.com/QpuU7qp.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/HkIWta0.jpg)
Title: Re: Sea_Marshall ESB Boba Fett WIP
Post by: Mi'ix on Jun 15, 2018, 01:27 PM
Ah, these pictures definitely help show the picture better.

I would go a wee but heavier on the weathering with your thigh pouch flaps and calves then. I definitely get the fear of over weathering.
Title: Re: Sea_Marshall ESB Boba Fett WIP
Post by: Sea_Marshall on Jun 26, 2018, 04:17 PM
I guess until I'm approved, I'm still a WIP! Here are some quick updates:

Size and order to Arkady for tailored flight suit, neck seal, and vest.
Gloves ordered from Mike M.
Holster crafted by Delta13 is in the mail!
JC25's RF light kit should be on the way as well!

Just got Big Dane's jetpack rig! Can't wait to put it on and feel the difference.
(https://i.imgur.com/Bh365wn.jpg)

April Storm printed out a beautiful Pulce 40 that got cleaned up and primed.
(https://i.imgur.com/YsZs7U5.jpg)

And I got to take my Fett out for a run at the San Francisco Comic Con! I've lost at least 10 pounds in these photos from May 4th. Suit fits MUCH better now! Currently down 20 pounds now. Getting Boba Fit. :boba:

Haven't even made it approved as a Basic Boba for 501st or MMCC, but already looking into Level 2 Infamous and Brigade upgraaaaaades.

STOKED. it's only a matter of time now...
Title: Re: Sea_Marshall ESB Boba Fett WIP
Post by: Mi'ix on Jun 26, 2018, 04:34 PM
Excellent upgrades!

That Big Dane pack will make a difference right away!
Title: Re: Sea_Marshall ESB Boba Fett WIP
Post by: Sea_Marshall on Jul 07, 2018, 03:23 PM
Quick update! I've acquired everything to apply. Here are a few pictures of the final changes before suiting up! I'll hopefully input my application by tomorrow.

Ported the barrel:
(https://i.imgur.com/pvcLFAe.jpg)

Acquired a leather Nemrod style hoster from Delta Leather Works:
(https://i.imgur.com/P1S63qK.jpg)

And 3D printed Pulce 40 from April Storm:
(https://i.imgur.com/Ebk2Few.jpg)

I've revisited the flight suit and weathered the pockets more. Touched up the gray on the vest to darken it up a bit. The wookiee braids will be sewn in place between the collar and shoulder. Thanks for all the help so far. I have the brigade requirements in the works right now, so, something to upgrade into. 
Title: Re: Sea_Marshall ESB Boba Fett WIP
Post by: Sea_Marshall on Jul 08, 2018, 04:34 AM
Dropping off these updated photos for WIP progression. It's come a long way!  :boba:

(https://i.imgur.com/lE99T3x.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/3Zg8K76.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/g28PnBr.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/isRnCqZ.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/0xCJY7R.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/17k8H5s.jpg)

This is indoor, outdoor indirect sunlight, outdoor direct sunlight. Pleased to see the color doesn't shift too dramatically.
(https://i.imgur.com/OpZxz3N.jpg)

And played in the woods across the street for a few snaps:
(https://i.imgur.com/Y4tUd5r.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/GB7yl47.jpg)

I've submitted application photos and am looking forward to what the clubs have to say. The anticipation will likely keep me awake at night.
Title: Re: Sea_Marshall ESB Boba Fett WIP
Post by: Sea_Marshall on Jul 08, 2018, 05:28 AM
I'll drop this stuff off too for references of where I stand compared to some film references. It's really tough to nail the colors down, especially on my first paint up. I've seen several other Boba painters really nail the color. I used information that has to be several years old for sure, perhaps the next paint up I'll deviate and go with what my eye suggests. The shades of green are varying not only in the film, but between every Boba Fett out there. I feel good about my colors though. 

(https://i.imgur.com/w15BQ7D.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Xo9UHpg.jpg)
Title: Re: Sea_Marshall ESB Boba Fett WIP
Post by: Sea_Marshall on Aug 06, 2019, 12:48 AM
Updates!

I've done about 25-30 events in this costume so far and I've finally burned out the flight suit. You may recall my 3 day battle with bleach and dye if you read the WIP. Somewhere along the road I picked up an Arkady flight suit and have patiently awaited the day I would take it out of the box and prep it for the costume, and that day has come.

(https://i.imgur.com/oOFe6Jil.jpg)

I decided to go with a grayish weathering shade instead of straight black as I did on the Man of War flight suit. I also noted the crazy color difference in the pre-dyed Arkady and the dyed color concoction I put together. This is a before and after. The darker blue is the dyed Man of War. The much grayish yet light blueish is the upgraded suit. In daylight you can see the weathering pretty well, but the hallway lighting seems to wash out the weathering.

(https://i.imgur.com/BsFhwhBl.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/6AUYomHl.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/uHDr3Rzl.jpg)

The flight suit is bonkers; I swear it changes color. I'm going to revisit this tomorrow and spot check some of the weathering, darken up the pockets some more.

While I was at upgrades, I did part one of two for the Helmet: Blinky Lights!
Completed WIP Video Found here: https://i.imgur.com/ZnMgntd.mp4 (https://i.imgur.com/ZnMgntd.mp4)
Suited up, Manual Movement: https://i.imgur.com/BY9gEQJ.mp4 (https://i.imgur.com/BY9gEQJ.mp4)

(https://i.imgur.com/8HFaANQl.jpg)

With the blinky lights add-on, I believe I can apply for a Brigade Level ESB Boba Fett, but will put some better photos together for application. Excited! Upgrades! More to come, eventually.


Title: Re: Sea_Marshall ESB Boba Fett WIP
Post by: Mi'ix on Aug 07, 2019, 09:16 AM
Looking really good, Sea_Marshall.

With my Arkady suit, I ended up throwing it in the dye bath to make it a little darker as the suits from our run (because I think we got our flightsuits from her around the same time) were a little light. 

Dylon China Blue is what I used and loved the result. 
Title: Re: Sea_Marshall ESB Boba Fett WIP
Post by: Sea_Marshall on Aug 07, 2019, 02:29 PM
Looking really good, Sea_Marshall.

With my Arkady suit, I ended up throwing it in the dye bath to make it a little darker as the suits from our run (because I think we got our flightsuits from her around the same time) were a little light. 

Dylon China Blue is what I used and loved the result.

That's a good observation. Thanks for the reference. I'll get a few more test shots and see how it looks. I def like the darker shade.