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Title: Orland Greene, v1.1.2 WIP
Post by: Orland Greene on Oct 04, 2018, 08:28 PM
Oya Vode,

It's been a while since i signed up, a lot has changed but my build is firmly under way now! My concept thread can be found here (http://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/index.php?topic=159334.0) for those of you that are interested. I already regaled everyone with the tedious real life circumstances that halted my build last time around in there so I won't repeat it here. But considering I have actually started building my kit and ordered the parts i need to get it all together I figured I should start making an actual WIP! So, the last time I posted my progress got up to here:

(http://i65.tinypic.com/2q8wx94.png)

So, as you can tell, compared to the concept that loincloth (which i made from a recycled cape from my old kit) turned out way to big! I underestimated the size a fair bit! So I cut it down to size and sewed on a bit of faux fur trim to cover the fact i cut it down and lost the nice orange trim on the piece. i also thought it was a little wide so I sewed in some shallow folds to give it that nice accentuated animesque fold.

(https://imgur.com/TK4PTP2.png)

I'll still have to make and attach an armour plate to the loincloth to finish it off, but I don't want to do that until the rest of my plates are in so i can make sure it looks the correct size compared to the ab plate. For now, I'm working on a nice winter cape to add some much needed heat insulation gear to this Cold Climate kit. I also updated my concept with the new Loincloth shape and retooled the colour scheme a little. I figured for cold climates i should tone down the colours a little more towards white rather then the dark grey. I also figured I'd add a nod to my old clone Trooper RP character who'll be going underneath this armour. Having 1 green left eye is now reflected in the jaig eyes on the helmet. Let me know what you all think of this colour scheme vs the old concept guys!

(https://i.imgur.com/yeTbBY7.png)

Title: Re: Orland Greene, v1.1.2 WIP
Post by: Jennari on Oct 05, 2018, 12:47 AM
Love it! Very, very nice!  :like:
Title: Re: Orland Greene, v1.1.2 WIP
Post by: Orland Greene on Oct 07, 2018, 11:25 AM
Thanks Jennari! I'm hard at work finishing up my soft parts and eagerly waiting for my armour and helmet to ship. In the mean time, I have a quick update on something I have been working on over the weekend! I still need to remove the tag and add more fur lining but I figure I could get the basic idea across. Anyway!

(https://i.imgur.com/dJdOB7t.png)

The cloak is designed to be able to be adjusted so it can fit over my armour and has support traps to distribute the load over my backplate and shoulders to avoid it tugging on my plates. Let me know what you guys think!
Title: Re: Orland Greene, v1.1.2 WIP
Post by: Orland Greene on Oct 08, 2018, 11:21 AM
So, over the weekend, I finished sowing up the fur trims. I'm still debating on whether or not to line the hem aswell on the cloak. But I did a test fitting of my soft parts so far. I think it works pretty well!

(https://i.imgur.com/AJOm9uh.png)
Title: Re: Orland Greene, v1.1.2 WIP
Post by: Jennari on Oct 08, 2018, 01:05 PM
Yup!  :like:
Title: Re: Orland Greene, v1.1.2 WIP
Post by: Kol Var'Das on Oct 09, 2018, 11:00 PM
Hey vod, coming along well so far! The only thing I would recommend is shortening the loincloth and reducing the width as well. Can't wait to see how it goes!
Title: Re: Orland Greene, v1.1.2 WIP
Post by: Orland Greene on Oct 16, 2018, 11:09 PM
Hey everyone! got some more work done on my kit today, something really exciting happened as the armour set I purchased of another member arrived after I had been eagerly awaiting it all week! So while I have in fact completely redone the loincloth to be shorter, thinner and more square like it looked in the concept, I totally spaced on taking pictures of that progress because I was, obviously, distracted by the crowning piece of every kit finally being in my hands.

I have sanded it all, installed the keyslots and made a lip reinforced with solid pvc strip and bondo putty to both hold the visor and make sure the cheeks don't warp on me. It's already been primed and has the first layer of high gloss white on it. I'm not going to put a whole lot of weathering on this kit, I figure It will scrape up and ding on it's own as I wear it and natural wear will eventually work better then any weathering I can do by myself. I am patient!

So, here is the first look at it, my Buy'ce

(https://i.imgur.com/SFT2QBQ.png)

Edit:

So i did some more work on the bucket. It's still clearly in the WIP stage but it's coming along!

(https://imgur.com/aUbi52f.jpg)

(https://imgur.com/AxSVvcx.jpg)

(https://imgur.com/AAuOtPo.jpg)
Title: Re: Orland Greene, v1.1.2 WIP
Post by: Jennari on Oct 17, 2018, 03:53 AM
Nice!
Title: Re: Orland Greene, v1.1.2 WIP
Post by: Straka Zulu on Oct 17, 2018, 10:48 PM
Who's the helmet maker?  That looks awfully familiar...
Title: Re: Orland Greene, v1.1.2 WIP
Post by: Orland Greene on Oct 17, 2018, 10:57 PM
I bought the armour set and helmet second hand from another member here, there was a card for "The Armour Factory" in the box that everything arrived in. Checking their vendor threads in in the supply depot they make a Wren Classic helmet that pretty much matches this, so I assume that's where it's from!
Title: Re: Orland Greene, v1.1.2 WIP
Post by: Kol Var'Das on Oct 17, 2018, 11:02 PM
I've seen their work recently and I'm liking what you have done with it, love the white and orange. Well done sir!
Title: Re: Orland Greene, v1.1.2 WIP
Post by: Straka Zulu on Oct 17, 2018, 11:05 PM
It looks good, vod.   Though I am partial to orange...
Title: Re: Orland Greene, v1.1.2 WIP
Post by: Orland Greene on Oct 17, 2018, 11:15 PM
Thanks Vode!

I have been doing some more work on it, fixed the orange overspray on the left cheek, put on the Jaig Eyes and weathered the orange stripes a bit, still have to finish up the ears and back of the helmet and I am waiting for my Antennae pieces to come in from demon dog studios to finish up my concept sketch but I figure progress is progress!

(https://i.imgur.com/cLg9sg7.png)

 
Title: Re: Orland Greene, v1.1.2 WIP
Post by: Jennari on Oct 18, 2018, 02:30 PM
Looking awesome!
Title: Re: Orland Greene, v1.1.2 WIP
Post by: Kol Var'Das on Oct 19, 2018, 05:42 PM
I like the decal look.
Title: Re: Orland Greene, v1.1.2 WIP
Post by: Orland Greene on Oct 19, 2018, 06:57 PM
Thanks Jennari! I'm pretty pleased with it myself!

Thanks Kol, though those aren't decals they were painted on freehand with a pinstriping brush  ;)
Title: Re: Orland Greene, v1.1.2 WIP
Post by: Kol Var'Das on Oct 22, 2018, 04:26 PM
Wow, that's some really solid work. Well done!
Title: Re: Orland Greene, v1.1.2 WIP
Post by: Tier on Oct 24, 2018, 01:50 PM
Following!
Title: Re: Orland Greene, v1.1.2 WIP
Post by: Orland Greene on Oct 26, 2018, 03:14 AM
Oya vode!

I need some advice, I have started fitting my plates onto my vest but I am having a little trouble placing the collarplate in the correct position. Now I usually see the comment that it needs to go as high as it can go, almost choking you. This would lead to the plate sitting like this:

(https://i.imgur.com/8NceSPn.png)

Should I go this route it sits supremely uncomfortably and I would need to basically reshape the whole thing, It would no longer line up with my backplate or shoulder bells either if I do this (It is a premade armour set you see.)

Now I tried out the position it would sit in if I follow the shape the plate has. The result is that it sits like this:

(https://i.imgur.com/H0MCH92.png)

It's far more comfortable, only needs minimal shaping to sit flush, lines up with all my other plates and all around looks better to (In my personal opinion). However, IS this second position high enough or do I absolutely need to make this first picture work somehow?

For reference, my armour set is the male clan Wren Set, and from the reference pictures it does seem like the second position is the way the plate is supposed to sit;

(https://i.imgur.com/Uq4bHlC.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/ASm2pHu.png)

edit: It also seems like the plate spacing on the reference pictures is rather thighs, is this allowed or should i stick to the more standard rule of thumb for spacing?
Title: Re: Orland Greene, v1.1.2 WIP
Post by: Havelock on Oct 26, 2018, 12:23 PM
The curve of your collar plate needs to rest up at the base of your throat.  So you'll need to reshape the collar and probably trim a little to align it with the back plate.  You'll want to get all your shaping and placement done before you start trimming.  Additionally, if you're doing a custom mando with Clan Wren style plates, follow the custom CRLs for the spacing - so use the rule of thumb, 1/2 and inch to an inch for your spacing.  If you're doing a Canon Clan Wren grunt, match the spacing from the reference images.
Title: Re: Orland Greene, v1.1.2 WIP
Post by: Kol Var'Das on Oct 27, 2018, 10:01 PM
True what Havelock said. Also, while I'm taking a look, where is your belly button in reference with your vest? It looks like, at least from the photos, that your vest might be going below your belly button, and might be too long. I like that vest material btw, looks good!
Title: Re: Orland Greene, v1.1.2 WIP
Post by: Orland Greene on Oct 28, 2018, 05:29 AM
My bellybutton is not a good point of reference I am afraid. It's hanging in a loose skin fold barely still on my stomach.  however the vest neatly tucks the top inch or so into my girth and does not come out underneath it. I am 6'4" tough and the last picture were taken at a slightly upward angle, so it looks even longer then it actually is.
Title: Re: Orland Greene, v1.1.2 WIP
Post by: Kol Var'Das on Oct 29, 2018, 12:58 AM
Ok, in that regard we'll have to see how long it is in reference to where the plates and waist items will sit. Not to worry,  just keep us in the loop with how everything's coming along! Can't wait to see the progress.
Title: Re: Orland Greene, v1.1.2 WIP
Post by: Orland Greene on Nov 01, 2018, 12:50 AM
Hey guys! With Halloween come and gone here tonight, I figured it would be a good time to share a picture of the state of my kit so far.

Disclaimer:

since it was the end of a long night running around scaring people and I had to get my plates wearable in a rush, I used fabric glue spray to get most of the velcro attached and aligned on my flak vest before sowing it on. However I ran out of time to get my ab and collar plate sown up so as the night went on some of the velcro started coming loose and I tucked my ab plate into my girth belt (And pulled it up a fair bit) to at least keep on going without thing falling off. As a result there is some massive floating happening on the ab plate and the collar and the spacing of my plates has been thrown somewhat out of wack. But rest assured I wll sow everything down and get it all properly aligned again soon!

As for what is left to do:

Observations from my first 'troop': The cape is HEAVY the strap keeps riding up and choking me. I 'm thinking the best solution is to place some big shebs rare earth magnets under my collar plate and attach one to the buckle of the cape to keep it locked in place when It's on but not leave an obvious mounting point when the cape come of.

Even If i do fully sow the velcro holding  my plates into place. I Think I am going to place some heavy duty snaps in the centre of the plates to keep them pulled tight on the flak vest because the velcro when not compressed lifts the plate 2 to 3 mm of my vest and i think a nice heavy snap in the centre of the plate can fix a lot of these issues.

My bucket need a ventilation kit really bad, my visor fogged up a few times tonight and its not sitting straight on my head because i have a bunch of space in the cheeks I can still use. Probably gonna use a fish tank bubbler and use that to run some air hoses around the insides of my cheek to get fresh cool air in there to make the helmet more wearable. I also just ordered a voice amp and external microphones for in the ears so i can wear noise cancelling headphones. Hearing myself talk in the bucket is pretty deafening and outside people have trouble hearing me!

Anyway! Thoughts out of the way, time for the pictures!

(https://i.imgur.com/ybCWYwY.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/iIQWdbx.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/tU7VBV7.png)



Title: Re: Orland Greene, v1.1.2 WIP
Post by: Straka Zulu on Nov 01, 2018, 07:24 AM
For putting it together in a rush, you look slick!  :like: :like:

For ventilation in the helmet, check TrooperTronix on Facebook, or look in the Continuous Sales page here on the forums. A number of sellers there make squirrel fan setups that can be run off of either 9v batteries or USB. Much better output than a tank bubbler.  ;D
Title: Re: Orland Greene, v1.1.2 WIP
Post by: Tek Sa'an on Nov 01, 2018, 09:21 AM
That color scheme is awesome! Nice kit.  :like:
Title: Re: Orland Greene, v1.1.2 WIP
Post by: Kol Var'Das on Nov 01, 2018, 08:10 PM
Looks like it's really coming along well! Just a couple things that needs to be done:

The blasters, while potentially modified, don't quite fit the star wars aesthetic from what I'm seeing. I would recommend doing some google searches and taking a look at design elements from different blasters. What I've found is sometimes simple designs work really well! If you have any questions, feel free to message me or one of the other app team members, we're more than happy to help!

The loin cloth looks to still be a little wide, just needs to be made a little bit thinner.

Can't wait to see how this build continues to progress!
Title: Re: Orland Greene, v1.1.2 WIP
Post by: Havelock on Nov 01, 2018, 08:25 PM
There's also a great reference thread here (http://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/index.php?topic=153697.0), if you want some good blaster pistol images.  The majority of Star Wars blasters have an "otherworldly" look to them, as well as looking - from a realistic perspective - very impractical.  Your blasters look very real world and tactical. 

The elements that do the most to pull me away from Star Wars when I look at these I've circled in white:

(http://i.imgur.com/GBFLk7t.png) (https://imgur.com/GBFLk7t)

Also, if you put holes in the barrel similar to this:

(http://i.imgur.com/r4xhtLz.png) (https://imgur.com/r4xhtLz)

or put some vanes on them similar to this:

(http://i.imgur.com/Gsl4o1T.png) (https://imgur.com/Gsl4o1T)

That would be awesome.
Title: Re: Orland Greene, v1.1.2 WIP
Post by: Orland Greene on Nov 02, 2018, 07:08 PM
Yeah I figured that would be the case! no worries guys, I appreciate the input but my realistic Westar 35's are coming in on Monday. those are my final choice for on my kit. these were just a quick repaint for Halloween anyway! However there is something else I will be working on for my kit.

(https://i.imgur.com/rnGWA01.png)

These are the templates I have drawn up for myself. The acrylic sheets are 8mm thick and come precut in the dimensions i have given. I'll be using 3mm solid pvc sheets to cover the acrylic and the grooves cut into it will house 3 USB led strips, a 25000 mha powerbank and be controlled by a remote I will put in the gauntlet. I'll be using an off brand lightsaber handle that comes with  a motion sensor to make swinging and pulsating sounds as it moves (but different sounds then your used to from an actual saber to distinguish this as being a vibroblade). I'll sand the edges down to a soft bevel to give it the appearance of an edge without actually being sharp and making the exposed acrylic edges opaque at the same time to better disperse the light.
Title: Re: Orland Greene, v1.1.2 WIP
Post by: Straka Zulu on Nov 02, 2018, 10:59 PM
That is going to look EPIC!
Title: Re: Orland Greene, v1.1.2 WIP
Post by: Ko'rizna Falco on Nov 02, 2018, 11:46 PM
Holy wowza! That is quite a project to undertake but I bet it will look so beastly when you are done with it! Can't wait to see it!
Title: Re: Orland Greene, v1.1.2 WIP
Post by: Orland Greene on Nov 08, 2018, 10:34 AM
Heya vode,

A minor setbaxk happened in that my measurements were a bit of and 150mm is way to wide for the main blade body.

I have however created a proof of concept blade while I wait for some new plexi to come in!

Let me know what you think of this, my vibro beskad!

(https://imgur.com/KRT7yAK.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/iFr4KdJ.jpg)
Title: Re: Orland Greene, v1.1.2 WIP
Post by: Tek Sa'an on Nov 08, 2018, 10:46 AM
Nice!!
Title: Re: Orland Greene, v1.1.2 WIP
Post by: Straka Zulu on Nov 08, 2018, 12:35 PM
Who says it's too wide?  :laugh:
Blade looks awesome, vod.
Title: Re: Orland Greene, v1.1.2 WIP
Post by: Orland Greene on Nov 08, 2018, 02:38 PM
Well this blade is a only 100mm and its already rather wide. The other one is way to big. Even for a 6'5 behemoth like me.
Title: Re: Orland Greene, v1.1.2 WIP
Post by: Straka Zulu on Nov 08, 2018, 05:17 PM
When it comes to weapons, bigger IS better.  I have a hard time with some SW weapons feeling like the Noisy Cricket to me as well. I'm 6'5",  too.
Title: Re: Orland Greene, v1.1.2 WIP
Post by: Ko'rizna Falco on Nov 08, 2018, 08:32 PM
I would have to agree with Straka! That beast looks awesome! Great craftsmanship!
Title: Re: Orland Greene, v1.1.2 WIP
Post by: Falke on Nov 10, 2018, 05:16 AM
This sword is awesome and definitely unique  :boba:
I'm curious how it will look when finished.
Title: Re: Orland Greene, v1.1.2 WIP
Post by: Orland Greene on Nov 21, 2018, 05:38 AM
Well. as it turns out, even with a slightly narrower blade, Straka has nothing to worry about. It is STILL a BEHEMOTH of a blade. I am still working hard at getting this done but some real progress HAS been made so far. So I proudly present, The cathar honour Sword (WIP):

(https://i.imgur.com/PP7v2Xp.png)
Title: Re: Orland Greene, v1.1.2 WIP
Post by: Jennari on Nov 21, 2018, 03:33 PM
Cool!
Title: Re: Orland Greene, v1.1.2 WIP
Post by: Kol Var'Das on Nov 26, 2018, 01:35 PM
Nice build, but unfortunately I don't think it quite fits the Star Wars aesthetic and still has much of a fantasy design to it. I would recommend looking at some TOR sword references for styling cues. If you wind up going that route, can't wait to see what you do with it!
Title: Re: Orland Greene, v1.1.2 WIP
Post by: Orland Greene on Nov 26, 2018, 11:11 PM
It is actually the Cathar honour sword from TOR ^^'

Here is a picture of the progress made on it so far. It's not quite done yet, still need to do the grip and pommel pieces and a proper wrapp on the handle, but it's getting closer!

(https://i.imgur.com/3hmlsxM.png)

And here is the original sword from TOR:

(http://dulfy.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/swtor-cathar-honor-sword-enforcer-contraband-pack-7.jpg)

I sadly had to abandon the open section in the centre of the blade due to safety concerns with structural integrity but I will still be adding the energy conduit along the centre using EL wire.

Outside of working on the sword though, I went to dutch comic con this weekend and while the experience was great and I had a lovely time meeting my fellow local Mercs, I also found that in comparison to many of the awesome buckets I saw there my helmet is well... really really small. I can't really walk around with it on without fogging up my visor something fierce and getting out of breath in a few minutes. So I ordered a new bucket from Demon Dog Studios today. I'll be going with their awesome nighthawk bucket and modding the visor area for a slight personal touch to it. I'll probably keep my current bucket around as a display piece but I'm thinking I might put some gas mask style re-breathers on the cheeks and seeing if some better airflow makes it any more comfortable to wear. For now though, heres a concept of the new bucket. I also ordered the rangefinder and antenna kits for the Nighthawk so I can see what I actually wanna put on there, but enough words, here's a picture of what I'm planning:

(https://i.imgur.com/nFJBMZF.png)

Title: Re: Orland Greene, v1.1.2 WIP
Post by: Tek Sa'an on Nov 27, 2018, 09:18 AM
I love the helmet concept. Very nice work on everything.
Title: Re: Orland Greene, v1.1.2 WIP
Post by: Dha'werd on Nov 27, 2018, 11:52 AM
I like the color scheme in the armor, and the new helmet looks amazing.
For a moment I thought chest plate were very large.

nice work vod :like:

regards
Title: Re: Orland Greene, v1.1.2 WIP
Post by: Orland Greene on Nov 27, 2018, 12:03 PM
they are rather large but I'm a pretty large dude and I can incompletely cross my arms in front of me without discomfort so! I think they work for me ^^'
Title: Re: Orland Greene, v1.1.2 WIP
Post by: Straka Zulu on Nov 27, 2018, 12:49 PM
The Nighthawk is a stellar choice. And I really like the paint concept you have for it.
Title: Re: Orland Greene, v1.1.2 WIP
Post by: Orland Greene on Nov 27, 2018, 01:18 PM
Yeah I really like the nighthawk. It'll be my third bucket so I'm hoping this time I'll get it right. I learned this weekend I apparently have a very small head. My current one is so small that one of my clan mates who is a bit shorter then me asked how I even get my head in it because he couldn't get it on while I wear it with glasses XD. I also have a NME Stalker (Large) but that is actually so big I dunno what to do with all the space, even though I can pull it off proportionately.  The nighthawk is about 2 inches wider and  an inch longer and taller then my current bucket so I figure It should do the job alright!