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Mandalorian Armor => Female Armor => Topic started by: Kay Toh on Dec 05, 2019, 03:17 PM

Title: First armor build
Post by: Kay Toh on Dec 05, 2019, 03:17 PM
*UPDATES*
Soft parts:
Vest complete, flightsuit tailoring in-progress, boots acquired, leather for holster acquired
Armor:
Sintra acquired, Dropbear helmet printed and painting in progress, templates printed and pinned
Weapons:
Blaster from The Mandalorian printed
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Super pumped to get started on this!
Planning on starting on the soft parts first so I don't lose motivation - I'm most excited about the armor making process  :D
Plan so far is to use Simplicity pattern 8480 with some modifications for the flak vest (too curvy for the guy patterns to work for me), plus scrubs or UA baselayers for the underneath part.

Haven't decided if I want to build a fiberglass helmet or 3D print one (my fiance and I have a 3D printing side business, so lots of printers I can use!)
Going to try and use the fencing chest protector mod to make my curvy plates, we'll see how that works. Also managed to find some 3mm sintra offcuts from a local sign shop for making the other plates.

Design concept is below, open to suggestions  :porg1:
(https://i.imgur.com/dpB9HxH.png)
Title: Re: First armor build
Post by: Jinthal on Dec 05, 2019, 04:00 PM
clean, straight forward. id recommend some sort of graphical feature to the grey plates, perhaps in the same white as the cheek section of the helmet, even if its just minimal. you might also consider going with a green, white or third accent color girth belt to break up the black and grey mass of the flightsuit and armor and adding a splash of an accent color on the gaunts would probably give this a little more of your own personality. Good start though.....looking forward to seeing this come to life for you.
Title: Re: First armor build
Post by: Shar Dagger on Dec 05, 2019, 05:47 PM
Cool concept!  I for one like the color scheme.  It's simple yet intimidating.  Just be cautious that your plates don't end up appearing to just be primed. 

A nice belt rig will go over the black sash and really add to it.  Seems like you have a solid idea on how to start.  Can't wait to see this idea become a reality!  :sabine: :porg2:
Title: Re: First armor build
Post by: Kay Toh on Dec 05, 2019, 08:06 PM
Cool concept!  I for one like the color scheme.  It's simple yet intimidating.  Just be cautious that your plates don't end up appearing to just be primed. 

A nice belt rig will go over the black sash and really add to it.  Seems like you have a solid idea on how to start.  Can't wait to see this idea become a reality!  :sabine: :porg2:

Thanks! I'm going to make the plates metallic so they don't fall into the "did you get lazy and not finish painting?" camp - sadly no good way to show that on the mando maker  :laugh:
I'm thinking about doing some striping on the plates to tie into the silver on the cheeks of the helmet... like this (thanks interwebs!)  (https://i.imgur.com/iRgWHgb.jpg)
Title: Re: First armor build
Post by: Shar Dagger on Dec 06, 2019, 03:48 PM
Looks like a solid plan!
Title: Re: First armor build
Post by: Kay Toh on Dec 07, 2019, 07:57 AM
Our dog Finn is "helping" me with my muslin vest mockup.... now it has dirty paw prints  :rolleyes:
(https://i.imgur.com/eV8g8bS.jpg)
Title: Re: First armor build
Post by: 3ddyb on Dec 07, 2019, 08:39 AM
Our dog Finn is "helping" me with my muslin vest mockup.... now it has dirty paw prints  :rolleyes:
(https://i.imgur.com/eV8g8bS.jpg)
He just wanted to make sure it gets weathered...

Liking your concept art, should be nice and scary. :like:
Title: Re: First armor build
Post by: Kay Toh on Dec 09, 2019, 08:40 PM
I think I found some boots - they're chelsea boots since I saw a note somewhere about needing solid soles. Also, low heels - always a plus!
(https://i.imgur.com/RcoYqmo.jpg?1)
(https://i.imgur.com/xIjkFsV.jpg?1)
Title: Re: First armor build
Post by: Shar Dagger on Dec 15, 2019, 11:32 AM
Our dog Finn is "helping" me with my muslin vest mockup.... now it has dirty paw prints  :rolleyes:
(https://i.imgur.com/eV8g8bS.jpg)

I love doggos, they are the best helpers  :D

Boots look great as well.  No laces to cover up and easy to slip on. 
Title: Re: First armor build
Post by: Kay Toh on Dec 17, 2019, 12:15 PM
Boots look great as well.  No laces to cover up and easy to slip on.
Woo!

Going to be posting vest pictures tonight, I have the actual vest cut out and about halfway done  :D
Got my scrubs in the mail over the weekend, so have to take the pockets off and tailor them
Title: Re: First armor build
Post by: Kay Toh on Dec 19, 2019, 10:04 AM
Ok - progress was made on soft parts yesterday!  :porg2:
(https://i.imgur.com/uFY2HJc.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/4RDetVg.jpg)
Now it's time to add side lacing - waiting for supplies, come on Prime delivery!
Ripped all the pockets and logos off my scrubs, now I just need my Fiance to pin me so I can hem and tailor things.
Still need to add sleeves to my scrub top too, that should be exciting.
Tried making a neck seal out of the vest material to attach it to the vest and promptly broke a sewing machine needle - probably going to make it out of spare scrubs fabric. I'll for sure have enough fabric left over - I swear scrubs are cut for people who are 6 ft tall  :(
Title: Re: First armor build
Post by: Kay Toh on Dec 19, 2019, 10:08 AM
Also starting to run into this issue...
(https://i.imgur.com/diMzBu1.jpg)
Title: Re: First armor build
Post by: Kay Toh on Dec 21, 2019, 06:36 PM
Vest is done!
(https://i.imgur.com/JCyn4Ck.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/kj9FxJS.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/QnrnIF3.jpg)
Title: Re: First armor build
Post by: Kay Toh on Dec 21, 2019, 06:47 PM
Also, Helmet parts are starting to come off the printer!  :porg2: ;D
(https://i.imgur.com/AGny023.jpg)
Title: Re: First armor build
Post by: ashohqin on Dec 23, 2019, 02:44 AM
Also, Helmet parts are starting to come off the printer!  :porg2: ;D
(https://i.imgur.com/AGny023.jpg)

Wonderful progress!  :like: I'm printing the same helmet currently and I was wondering if you used supports on your printer with the cheek and dome pieces. I haven't printed them you for my helmet because half of the dome would take 23 hrs with supports and I don't want to leave it unattended over night as I've had some printing issues before. I'm very new to 3d printing and research so far has been non-conclusive.
Title: Re: First armor build
Post by: Kay Toh on Dec 23, 2019, 08:00 AM
Wonderful progress!  :like: I'm printing the same helmet currently and I was wondering if you used supports on your printer with the cheek and dome pieces. I haven't printed them you for my helmet because half of the dome would take 23 hrs with supports and I don't want to leave it unattended over night as I've had some printing issues before. I'm very new to 3d printing and research so far has been non-conclusive.
Thanks  :D
Supports are your friend! The cheek pieces didn't need support on the outside if I remember correctly, but did on the inside for the lettering and the cooling vents. The cooling vents only needed support at the bottoms and top openings, if you use autosupports it'll fill the whole cooling channel full of supports that you can't remove  >:(
It probably wouldn't hurt to over-support it if you're new / worried - you're going to have to sand the heck out of it anyways so a few supports won't matter!
The main helmet was printed at the recommended layer height / quality settings, the earcaps and coinslots were printed at a higher quality since it would be harder to sand them down.
I actually ended up using MeshMixer to split the helmet down into smaller pieces (split dome into quarters, sides in half) so that a failure wouldn't be quite so much material and would fit on our set of Ender 3 printers. If you need help with meshmixer let me know, it's got some pretty sweet features.
Title: Re: First armor build
Post by: Shar Dagger on Dec 23, 2019, 12:19 PM
Wow! Its starting to all come together now.  Awesome work on the vest.  3D prints are not my forte but it seems you are figuring it's out okay. 

Keep up the great work! :porg2:
Title: Re: First armor build
Post by: Kay Toh on Dec 24, 2019, 08:06 AM
Wow! Its starting to all come together now.  Awesome work on the vest.  3D prints are not my forte but it seems you are figuring it's out okay. 

Keep up the great work! :porg2:

Thanks  :D
My Fiance and I have a 3D printing business over on Etsy, so we've got a lot of experience (and resources) at our disposal!

Ok, need advice - do I look like a bobble head? I printed the medium dropbear so it would fit over my glasses, but I'm worried it's a bit big... and yes, it's temporarily put together with packing tape  :8):
Also, doggo wanted to help again
(https://i.imgur.com/yRAQiB4.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/z34eHob.jpg)

Edit: Sanding and filling is taking place. Starting to look like a helmet instead of a hot mess... and yes, I know I need to remove the visible print lines *sanding intensifies*
(https://i.imgur.com/7seel14.jpg)
Title: Re: First armor build
Post by: Kay Toh on Dec 28, 2019, 10:59 AM
Soft parts are 90% done now! My mini-mando stature and curvy short-waisted body are making the sewing difficult tbh  :rolleyes:
There's photos of me without the bucket too!
(https://i.imgur.com/IifzPtz.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/4X4vPed.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/WTVzV74.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/EdGN39K.jpg?1)
Title: Re: First armor build
Post by: Ducat Ymra on Dec 28, 2019, 12:31 PM
The helmet does look a bit big and it may need to not touch the shoulders with your armor on.

Great work on the vest.
Title: Re: First armor build
Post by: Kay Toh on Dec 29, 2019, 08:27 PM
The helmet does look a bit big and it may need to not touch the shoulders with your armor on.

Great work on the vest.
Thanks!

Progress was made today / yesterday - I now have a blaster and a primed bucket!
(https://i.imgur.com/O4pXq07.jpg)

We're also going to print the smaller size helmet, I'm going to see which fits better and then probably post the other in the one-time sales forum  :8):
Title: Re: First armor build
Post by: Shar Dagger on Dec 30, 2019, 03:31 PM
Awesome work!

For the helmet. It is hard to tell size without having a direct front facing photo.  If the bucket does end up being too large for some reason you can bulk up your shoulder armor.  So this could be adding a pauldron, or layering the shoulder bells.  There are lots of options.

Keep up the awesome work!
Title: Re: First armor build
Post by: Kay Toh on Jan 01, 2020, 04:10 PM
Waiting for some epoxy to come in before I do too much more finishing on my 3d prints.
Also got several large orders so the printers are busy printing things for paying customers instead of my second helmet attempt or more bits for my kit. Dang responsibility!

This is how my clan feels about failed prints, doggo helps:
(https://i.imgur.com/WYF5mSY.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/hfc46YD.jpg)
Title: Re: First armor build
Post by: Kay Toh on Jan 19, 2020, 05:24 PM
Isn't it lame when life gets in the way of what you actually want to do  :(
Making some progress on my kit again... helmet v2 has been printed, resined, sanded and primed. Did my first round of spot filling with acryl green and touch up sanding. Also printed a replica of the blaster The Mandalorian carries on the show, which also got the same treatment as the helmet. Everything got a bath to remove sanding residue and is drying before being primed again!
Helmet:
(https://i.imgur.com/wj2qLD2.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/ibS62t5.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/nhDVm7r.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/LYuRwLT.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/KPrmwKn.jpg)
Blaster:
(https://i.imgur.com/haZMY1h.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/jjwOhy7.jpg)

For anyone curious, the files for the helmet were purchased here: https://tinyurl.com/sgptsb5 (https://tinyurl.com/sgptsb5) and the blaster files are from here: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3977528 (https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3977528)
Title: Re: First armor build
Post by: ladylambi on Jan 21, 2020, 07:20 PM
That looks great! I take it the smaller helmet print fits better? I love your vest, vod!
Title: Re: First armor build
Post by: Kay Toh on Jan 23, 2020, 08:40 AM
That looks great! I take it the smaller helmet print fits better? I love your vest, vod!

Thanks! Yes it fits a lot better than the medium  :)
Title: Re: First armor build
Post by: Kay Toh on Jan 23, 2020, 11:22 AM
Updated helmet pics - now wearing the dropbear size small - once I've got a bit of padding in the top it should be just right! Its no longer sitting on my shoulders, or so wide I need serious shoulder armor to offset it!
(https://i.imgur.com/DN57Nc0.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/zWGFwwT.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/CVqCMPs.jpg)
Title: Re: First armor build
Post by: Ducat Ymra on Jan 24, 2020, 06:56 PM
YES! That does look better! :boba:
Title: Re: First armor build
Post by: Shar Dagger on Jan 25, 2020, 11:43 AM
Very nice!
Title: Re: First armor build
Post by: Kay Toh on Jan 27, 2020, 08:20 AM
You guys!!!!  I finally put some paint on my helmet!! :porg2:
(https://i.imgur.com/3Y2TETE.jpg)

I ended up selling the medium dropbear to a prospective member in the local area, so it worked out for everyone - all my sanding wasn't in vain!  ;)
Title: Re: First armor build
Post by: ladylambi on Jan 27, 2020, 07:31 PM
That looks awesome!! What kind of paint did you use?
Title: Re: First armor build
Post by: Kay Toh on Jan 27, 2020, 08:25 PM
That looks awesome!! What kind of paint did you use?
Thanks!! It's Krylon Fusion Dark Metal Metallic spray paint, over a bunch of surface prep lol :D
Title: Re: First armor build
Post by: Kay Toh on Feb 02, 2020, 04:52 PM
Some progress is being made
Originally I was going to do the fencing chest protector as my chest armor (normally wear a multi-letter bra size  :rolleyes:) but between a sports bra and lacing my vest tightly I think I'm going to be flat enough I can get away with just curving the chest plates a little - thoughts? Other curvy mandos out there want to give me advice? Profile shot with vest lacing / sports bra for reference - please don't make awkward comments guys:
(https://i.imgur.com/tfliDO8.jpg)

Template time! I printed the 5'3" WOF templates cause I'm a mini-mando. Feedback would be appreciated on sizing - I know that the spacing needs refinement! I also need to sort out some kind of girth belt soon.
Here they are pinned in place:
(https://i.imgur.com/fJVnCT1.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/qMZ9gIb.jpg)
Not pictured - having to have assistance to pull costume off because I pinned it to my bra and didn't realize until it was partially off, and got myself stuck in my shirt :-[
Title: Re: First armor build
Post by: Syrosek on Feb 05, 2020, 09:36 PM
Some progress is being made
Originally I was going to do the fencing chest protector as my chest armor (normally wear a multi-letter bra size  :rolleyes:) but between a sports bra and lacing my vest tightly I think I'm going to be flat enough I can get away with just curving the chest plates a little - thoughts? Other curvy mandos out there want to give me advice? Profile shot with vest lacing / sports bra for reference - please don't make awkward comments guys:
(https://i.imgur.com/tfliDO8.jpg)

Template time! I printed the 5'3" WOF templates cause I'm a mini-mando. Feedback would be appreciated on sizing - I know that the spacing needs refinement! I also need to sort out some kind of girth belt soon.
Here they are pinned in place:
(https://i.imgur.com/fJVnCT1.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/qMZ9gIb.jpg)
Not pictured - having to have assistance to pull costume off because I pinned it to my bra and didn't realize until it was partially off, and got myself stuck in my shirt :-[

You look great! The armor seems to looks good to me (but Iím no app team), especially if youíre adding a girth belt. I canít say anything on advice so take any of this with a grain of salt...
 but from what Iíve seen lurking around, some have intentionally made their chest parts a bit bigger to accommodate different bras, swelling, extra layers, etc. they generally say you can always add padding to make it fit but can never really add back that extra room you need sometimes.  Not personally sure how it has worked for them but itís what has been done before. It could possibly help too if you curve the piece since curving can change the final proportions as well (if the design is meant to be flat that is). Iím sure you could look around and see if anyone has done something similar to you.
Title: Re: First armor build
Post by: Kay Toh on Feb 06, 2020, 10:01 AM
You look great! The armor seems to looks good to me (but Iím no app team), especially if youíre adding a girth belt. I canít say anything on advice so take any of this with a grain of salt...
 but from what Iíve seen lurking around, some have intentionally made their chest parts a bit bigger to accommodate different bras, swelling, extra layers, etc. they generally say you can always add padding to make it fit but can never really add back that extra room you need sometimes.  Not personally sure how it has worked for them but itís what has been done before. It could possibly help too if you curve the piece since curving can change the final proportions as well (if the design is meant to be flat that is). Iím sure you could look around and see if anyone has done something similar to you.
Thanks! My russ'alor said to go up a size to accommodate curving the plates - so will post pics this weekend :) Going to take all my crap kit parts to the local armor party next weekend, hoping to get some good advice / help there. Haven't worked with sintra before  :porg1:
Title: Re: First armor build
Post by: Shar Dagger on Feb 15, 2020, 09:55 PM
Sizing is decent however the area around the diamond needs some attention.  The spacing there is quite wide.  As far as sintra goes, I've seen it work for some and not others. 

For you, slight curving may suffice.  You may want to try with 1 chest plate and see if you can get that to work before cutting both.  I have a tutorial for cupped plates in my signature below.  Click on "Valhalla" and scroll down a little if your interested.
Title: Re: First armor build
Post by: Kay Toh on Feb 21, 2020, 08:18 AM
Helmet paint is (almost) done! I'm going to paint the T area of the helmet once I've gotten fabric for my cape / sash - it's much easier to match paint to fabric vs matching fabric to paint. Also will remove the visor film once i've finished the paint. This is the small size dropbear helmet by april storm - 3d printed and finished by me  :D
(https://i.imgur.com/5RG85sV.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/XRZfBnA.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/ZZLebcU.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/J6ztGxo.jpg)
Title: Re: First armor build
Post by: Slade Kel on Feb 24, 2020, 08:16 PM
Great work so far! You did an excellent job of getting rid of the print lines on the helmet, in particular, and excellent work on the vest. I definitely agree with making a test run with one chest plate before cutting out the second. My wife is also rather busty and it has certainly been a learning experience helping her make plates. One thing we did (which I think was suggested earlier in the thread) when making Fett-style plates was to elongate the top half a bit to accomodate that curving. Like Shar said, we were able to get away with just a gentle curve on hers without having to 'cup' it so much, but if you're interested in going that route there are certainly several tutorials floating about the mercs about how to do that with sintra plates. I believe in the Jadd Halls of Knowledge there's a whole formal tutorial on it, and otherwise there are ones like Shar's that are quite good.
Title: Re: First armor build
Post by: Kay Toh on Feb 25, 2020, 09:48 AM
Great work so far! You did an excellent job of getting rid of the print lines on the helmet, in particular, and excellent work on the vest. I definitely agree with making a test run with one chest plate before cutting out the second.
Thank you Slade :D
So yeah - "huge tracts of land" problems continue. I've now gone all the way up to the XL Boba plates so I can try and dart them. Getting closer, but I think I'm going to have to just duct-tape myself and directly draw the patterns on to get this right. Just can't get things to curve properly, and I've heard the plates shouldn't float away from the body. If I ever get OM I may have to form a curvy mando armor support group!

Also - Went to an armor party over the weekend, it was awesome and super helpful since I've never worked with Sintra before! Realized after wearing my vest for about 3 hours its making me claustrophobic and it's too long so it interferes with me moving around / constantly having to pull it back down cause it's riding up. May have to start over on the vest and make it a little bit looser, as well as adding a sleeves to attach my shoulders and making the neck area fit better. Anyone want to buy my old vest? ;)
Title: Re: First armor build
Post by: Kay Toh on Mar 01, 2020, 04:40 PM
Updates!
Re-did my vest - traced a button down shirt that I liked to make a pattern and then altered the heck out of it to get it to fit properly - all I'm waiting on now is a zipper from Amazon and I'll be in business! No more claustrophobia! Yay!

Had something truly awful happen - my gauntlets, and helmet, both had a bad reaction to the spray paint I used today. Evidently something reacted when I was spraying them, so the paint all bubbled and cracked and completely ruined the paint job all the way down to the primer. So I'm going to have to fully sand them down and start over. Not pleased  :'(

Still trying to get chest plates to fit properly, I'm currently destroying all the spare boxes in our house making cardboard test plates. Getting closer, but I think I'm going to end up with something like Bo Katan's armor vs the Jango templates.
Title: Re: First armor build
Post by: n33rdysoldier on Mar 01, 2020, 06:26 PM
Thanks!! It's Krylon Fusion Dark Metal Metallic spray paint, over a bunch of surface prep lol :D

have you layered the metallic paint? looking at using it as a potential base layer (copper metallic) and was wondering how well the metallic finish held up to layering.
Title: Re: First armor build
Post by: Kay Toh on Mar 02, 2020, 10:06 AM
have you layered the metallic paint? looking at using it as a potential base layer (copper metallic) and was wondering how well the metallic finish held up to layering.
Yep - I've layered it (although with mixed success per my last post  :( )
It works ok - the paints I used were quite opaque so I'm not seeing any of the dark metal through the silver. I doubt that layering normal spray paint over the metallic would make the successive layers metallic if that's what you're going for? Be very careful with your masking - even using super gentle tape (frog tape) was pulling the chrome finish off the parts I sprayed silver / leaving lines, I'm going to have to repaint them.