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Title: Integrated Jet Boosters/Thrusters For Backplate Build (Updated, page 6 pics!)
Post by: Sirus the Red on Jun 29, 2012, 02:26 AM
So, as of right now I'm thinking that I'm going for a very melee heavy build. I want a blastsword in one hand and a pistol (probably with some kind of bayonet attachment) in the other, so I'm going top be very highly optimized for close combat. But I found myself thinking what if I was enaged with targets that have much longer range than I do in an area of minimal cover, or if I was to go up against something with supernatural speed and agility, such as a Force-user? I'd want some kind of augment to give me an edge, to either close the distance or outmaneuver my opponent.

My immediate reaction was "Jetpack!" but those seem better for going up rather than forward, if that makes sense. Also, they seem rather bulky, and after re-watching  the fight between Kenobi and Jango Fett in Episode II, it didn't take much for the jetpack to be rendered inoperable.

So I was thinking, what if I had a collection of small thrusters integrated into key points in my armor? I know Cad Bane-style Jet boots are allowed, but after doing a bit of searching I have yet to find anyone who completely integrated thrusters into their backplates. Is this against the CRLs? Has this been done yet, and I just didn't look hard enough? In any case, I would want this set-up to focus primarily on speed, with only a little bit of lift, and pretty much no hover capability. I would imagine this would include at least two nozzles on the back, and one on the back of each leg.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: Integrated Jet Boosters/Thrusters?
Post by: Vos Rugor on Jun 30, 2012, 06:12 PM
Do you have any sketches of your idea? I like it, just wonder how you see it in your minds eye. I picture the nozzles with little canisters (like co2 looking things, but greeb'd up) on the shoulder plates, shoulder blade area, and maybe the gaunts and boots.
Title: Re: Integrated Jet Boosters/Thrusters?
Post by: Sirus the Red on Jun 30, 2012, 06:55 PM
I plan on having the armor integrated into the armor in such a way so that they kind of poke out from under layers of armor instead of looking slapped on top of them. I'll get some good sketches put together and post them up soon
Title: Re: Integrated Jet Boosters/Thrusters?
Post by: Sirus the Red on Jul 01, 2012, 09:17 AM
Okay, I got some sketches done. They're not really good, and I need to do a bit more research, but they're close to what I see in my mind's eye.

Here is my backplate idea:
(http://i1059.photobucket.com/albums/t437/Sirusthered/IMG_20120701_090706.jpg)
Ignore the random crap, this was done on a very used page of my pocket sketch book. I do plan on having fabric wrapped around a shoulder, so the nozzles might be a bit low so as not to light me on fire, but that's fine.

Here's what I was thinking with the leg and gauntlet boosters:
(http://i1059.photobucket.com/albums/t437/Sirusthered/IMG_20120701_090740.jpg)
Sorry for the mess, I was also using those as references to how big I should make them once I start cutting them out. But they should get the idea across, does that help you out Vos?
Title: Re: Integrated Jet Boosters/Thrusters?
Post by: Vos Rugor on Jul 01, 2012, 01:17 PM
Yeah, that looks way cooler than what I would have come up with. Cant wait to see you start building.
Title: Re: Integrated Jet Boosters/Thrusters?
Post by: Sirus the Red on Jul 01, 2012, 01:48 PM
Thanks, I'm actually going to an armor party today and will hopefully begin work on it. I'm still not entirely happy with the design though...

Also, if you want to see how the rest of the build is coming along, you can follow it through this link :
http://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/index.php?topic=52662.0 (http://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/index.php?topic=52662.0)
Title: Re: Integrated Jet Boosters/Thrusters?
Post by: Sirus the Red on Aug 23, 2012, 11:32 AM
Ok, so I actually have something tangible for my back plate integrated thrusters thing. Take a look:

(http://i1059.photobucket.com/albums/t437/Sirusthered/JetBackWIP.jpg)

I still have a bit of work I want to do to it. The openings you can see will have nozzles inserted into them, probably angled pvc joints. I don't want them pointed straight down, as I want them to give the look that they propel forward at great speed more than they lift up.

I also plan on shaping it enough so that it appears to conform to my back, but I don't want to shape it too much, for fear of the angles no longer being able to match up. The openings on the side facing up will be close, probably by adding sintra so that it slants down to my back. I'll also be adding some greeblies to it eventually, once I'm satisfied with the base of it. Thoughts?
Title: Re: Integrated Jet Boosters/Thrusters?
Post by: Kered Taakure on Aug 23, 2012, 12:10 PM
This reminds me of the jetpack spartans from Halo Reach
Title: Re: Integrated Jet Boosters/Thrusters?
Post by: Sirus the Red on Aug 23, 2012, 12:18 PM
The Reach jetpacks have a vastly different design, but I'm glad it's reminiscent of other Sci-Fi jet packs!
Title: Re: Integrated Jet Boosters/Thrusters?
Post by: TracynSenaar on Aug 25, 2012, 09:36 PM
So I might need a jetpack now too if I do this flamethrower thing.
Title: Re: Integrated Jet Boosters/Thrusters?
Post by: Sirus the Red on Aug 25, 2012, 10:00 PM
That's fine, we found some PVC joints at Lowes today that would certainly make a good starting point!
Title: Re: Integrated Jet Boosters/Thrusters?
Post by: Karvas Dral on Aug 25, 2012, 10:09 PM
Be careful that it doesn't set fire to your cape!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Integrated Jet Boosters/Thrusters?
Post by: Sirus the Red on Aug 25, 2012, 10:12 PM
Thanks for the heads up ner'vod, but I made sure to have my nozzles low enough so that any fabric doesn't get lit up! I would also like to imagine that I would be smart enough to use flame-resistant fabric in any potential fire hazard areas.
Title: Re: Integrated Jet Boosters/Thrusters?
Post by: Sirus the Red on Oct 18, 2012, 10:28 AM
So I know we were all excited for that integrated jetpack/backplate design I was working on, but for right now that current design is being shelved. I just had too many mixed feelings on it, and I'll probably use it for my next kit after some more work on it, but for now I've moved on to a different design that I wanted to get some opinions on.

The inspiration for my new design struck in my parent's bathroom when I noticed one of these sitting in a corner:

(https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTb0nayU9G6WHD_hPNeuMeub0HHRQMpuGdL03_3fK1nVlQnSW9-)

I picked it up, turned it over, and thought about what it would like after I had trimmed some of it down. So I ran to the store and bought two, did some trimming, and taped them together to see what I had:

(http://i1059.photobucket.com/albums/t437/Sirusthered/IMG_20121013_224053.jpg)

BAM! Sleek design, no bulk, and it would require minimum shaping to fit to my back. Now I just had to design a backplate to go with it...

(http://i1059.photobucket.com/albums/t437/Sirusthered/IMG_20121016_234540.jpg)

So I decided to go with a segmented look to my back plates, and thought it would be cool to go with a "spine" design for the rest of my back armor, similar to what's seen on the N7 armor in Mass Effect 2 and 3. Here's a picture of what I mean:

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRVqmU_4unPRFvyTgLARMNdheggWp8ktCpM2fe_SVy39-fsMvdDFg)

Thoughts?
Title: Re: Integrated Jet Boosters/Thrusters?
Post by: Kelan Ord on Oct 18, 2012, 11:11 AM
Awesome! The thrusters idea is great!!!
Title: Re: Integrated Jet Boosters/Thrusters?
Post by: Gel'ren Drask on Oct 18, 2012, 11:29 AM
Interesting.  I had an idea of integrated thrusters for my kit but didn't have a clue where to start.  Looking forward to see how this goes.
Title: Re: Integrated Jet Boosters/Thrusters?
Post by: Sirus the Red on Oct 18, 2012, 11:41 AM
Awesome! The thrusters idea is great!!!

Interesting.  I had an idea of integrated thrusters for my kit but didn't have a clue where to start.  Looking forward to see how this goes.

Thanks guys! I'm also looking forward to seeing how this turns out  :laugh: . I have a pretty good idea of what I want out of it, but that will probably evolve over time as I work on it.

What did you guys think of the spine plates idea? I'm trying to gather opinions before I actually start working on it, so any input would be extremely appreciated!
Title: Re: Integrated Jet Boosters/Thrusters?
Post by: Kelan Ord on Oct 18, 2012, 11:46 AM
Well, having spine plates on my kit... I would be lying if I told you it wasn't a good idea...!!!  :D

(http://i1135.photobucket.com/albums/m640/000wil000/2012-08-30202220.jpg)
Title: Re: Integrated Jet Boosters/Thrusters?
Post by: Sirus the Red on Oct 18, 2012, 12:27 PM
Excellent, that looks great! Thanks Kelan, I appreciate the picture,a nd you put some of my fears to bed as well! I'm assuming that's much more flexible than a standard plate. So how much of the back are we required to have covered? Because my spine design would leave a good portion of the lower sides of my back uncovered.
Title: Re: Integrated Jet Boosters/Thrusters?
Post by: Niabi on Oct 18, 2012, 12:35 PM
Cool Idea Vod ;D looks very cool ;)
Title: Re: Integrated Jet Boosters/Thrusters?
Post by: Sirus the Red on Oct 18, 2012, 04:58 PM
Thanks Niabi! Now for spine plates, does the "rule of thumb" for spacing still have to be followed? Or can they be layered? Or perhaps layed end to end, so it looks like one piece that's segmented? Any answers I get to this will really help narrow down my design process. I have a good idea of what I want, I just need to know if I'm allowed to execute it before I start really getting into it.
Title: Re: Integrated Jet Boosters/Thrusters?
Post by: Kelan Ord on Oct 18, 2012, 05:14 PM
Thanks Niabi! Now for spine plates, does the "rule of thumb" for spacing still have to be followed? Or can they be layered? Or perhaps layed end to end, so it looks like one piece that's segmented? Any answers I get to this will really help narrow down my design process. I have a good idea of what I want, I just need to know if I'm allowed to execute it before I start really getting into it.

I'd say do what you like the "rule of thumb" applies only to the chest/ab/collar/diamond plates... So yeah they can be layered... Or laid end to end... No problem there.
Title: Re: Integrated Jet Boosters/Thrusters?
Post by: Ronin Tavic on Oct 18, 2012, 05:32 PM
New thruster idea is boss. I love it. I had a similar thought with my armor, but never got off the ground with it. I was thinking of adding boosters to the hands to deliver a faster punch... Sadly flamethrowers and missile took the place on my gaunts instead.. But I like how this is going  ;D
Title: Re: Integrated Jet Boosters/Thrusters?
Post by: Sirus the Red on Oct 18, 2012, 07:39 PM
I'd say do what you like the "rule of thumb" applies only to the chest/ab/collar/diamond plates... So yeah they can be layered... Or laid end to end... No problem there.

Are you absolutely sure about this Kelan? Because I think I recently saw a kit that had a segmented back plate that had to be covered up because of the rule of thumb. Just making sure!

New thruster idea is boss. I love it. I had a similar thought with my armor, but never got off the ground with it. I was thinking of adding boosters to the hands to deliver a faster punch... Sadly flamethrowers and missile took the place on my gaunts instead.. But I like how this is going  ;D

Thanks Ronin, glad you like it! My gaunts may not include the boosters immediately due to time constraints, but they will be there eventually!
Title: Re: Integrated Jet Boosters/Thrusters?
Post by: Kelan Ord on Oct 18, 2012, 07:54 PM
Are you absolutely sure about this Kelan? Because I think I recently saw a kit that had a segmented back plate that had to be covered up because of the rule of thumb. Just making sure!

You can't have more space than what's allowed in the front, but I'm pretty sure you can have less... After all the back plate is supposed to be one piece.
Title: Re: Integrated Jet Boosters/Thrusters?
Post by: Sirus the Red on Oct 18, 2012, 08:18 PM
I might have to ask an app team member just to be sure, but thanks for the input regardless.
Title: Re: Integrated Jet Boosters/Thrusters?
Post by: Thaxos on Oct 21, 2012, 10:47 PM
Liking the thrusters you've re-purposed, and the spine should definitely give it a cool look.

Keep at it!
Title: Re: Integrated Jet Boosters/Thrusters?
Post by: Remo Jadd on Oct 22, 2012, 09:55 AM
I might have to ask an app team member just to be sure, but thanks for the input regardless.

Kelan IS an App Team member, and what he tells you is correct. Heed his advice ;) .
Title: Re: Integrated Jet Boosters/Thrusters?
Post by: Sirus the Red on Oct 22, 2012, 12:48 PM
Kelan IS an App Team member, and what he tells you is correct. Heed his advice ;) .

He is officially an App Team member now, though I don't believe he was one quite yet when we where discussing the topic  ;D. Regardless, advice heeded, feedback, as always, very appreciated, and a hearty congratulation to you for joining the App Team Kelan Ord!
Title: Re: Integrated Jet Boosters/Thrusters?
Post by: Kelan Ord on Oct 22, 2012, 01:14 PM
Thanks! And you're right I wasn't in the team yet at the time...!!  ;)
Title: Re: Integrated Jet Boosters/Thrusters?
Post by: z2the4 on Oct 24, 2012, 08:22 PM
The way you were describing the way the thrusters would be used made me think of a "high mobility" set up or something.
IE quick movements left/right, toward or away from a target, without really "taking flight"
Same Idea I have boiling for my heavy character(be nice to dodge the occasional blaster bolt or rocket).

When I read "Intergrated Thrusters" first thing that came to mind for me were Mobile Suits(AKA Gundam's).
And when I saw how you thought of those toilet brush holders as thruster ports it really made me think.
(http://www.angelfire.com/anime2/zeonbase/kampfer2.jpg)
In the short screen time the Kampfer spent most of its combat time on the ground using multible thrusters on its back, legs, torso and arms to move around the battle field very rapidly.
While the whole time never really "flying/jumping".

Here is another Gundam with intergrated thrusters in the back(including weapons powered by the backpack).
(http://i992.photobucket.com/albums/af43/xxLelouchxx67/RX-78-4GundamG04SpaceVer.jpg)

And this is closer to the idea of my mobility pack, a Space Leo(which is the same as a ground based version just with different colors and the mobility pack).
(http://www.tomopop.com/ul/_tomopop/26476-00.jpg)

Now I know these are giant robots, but the ideas are there.
Not sure if my "High Mobility" pack will pass inspection later down the road or not, but maybe those pictures could lend you some ideas on how to incorporate some thrusters into your calves, boots, shoulders, etc

Something along this line could spread into a "paratrooper/shock trooper" of some type, where as instead of using a parachute they would have thrusters on their armor to slow and ultimately stop there drop into hostile territory and then use their quick speed and mobility to break through the enemy lines.
Title: Re: Integrated Jet Boosters/Thrusters?
Post by: Karvas Dral on Oct 24, 2012, 08:41 PM
Hey look, I own that first guy!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Integrated Jet Boosters/Thrusters?
Post by: Sirus the Red on Oct 25, 2012, 03:32 PM
The way you were describing the way the thrusters would be used made me think of a "high mobility" set up or something.
IE quick movements left/right, toward or away from a target, without really "taking flight"
Same Idea I have boiling for my heavy character(be nice to dodge the occasional blaster bolt or rocket).


In the short screen time the Kampfer spent most of its combat time on the ground using multible thrusters on its back, legs, torso and arms to move around the battle field very rapidly.
While the whole time never really "flying/jumping".

That was pretty much the idea! Trading altitude for acceleration and mobility, with maybe a tad of slight jump pack power in a pinch. Since my character has a very close-quarters weapon set, I figured I'd be relying heavily on my thrusters to close the distance and outmaneuver my enemies.  But this is all in-my-head-fantasy-battle-tactics  ;D
Title: Re: Integrated Jet Boosters/Thrusters?
Post by: Zul Veyrde on Oct 25, 2012, 04:04 PM
That was pretty much the idea! Trading altitude for acceleration and mobility, with maybe a tad of slight jump pack power in a pinch. Since my character has a very close-quarters weapon set, I figured I'd be relying heavily on my thrusters to close the distance and outmaneuver my enemies.  But this is all in-my-head-fantasy-battle-tactics  ;D

Sounds awesome. I had considered such things as well. I really like the originality of your approach. I do however recommend you maintaining some basis of canon in-universe examples (ie Cad Bane's jet boots, etc) as an initial base then customizing for originality (keep in mind you want on-lookers to say "Oh wow, I haven't seen that",  but still recognize all components as SWarzy, and not some crossover.)

I'm having to make same considerations on the cyber-arm design I'm building for my kit.

Good luck, ner vod. I'm keeping an eye on this one!
Title: Re: Integrated Jet Boosters/Thrusters?
Post by: amouro on Nov 02, 2012, 07:17 PM
I agree, there's a lot of inspiration to be had looking at mobile suit backpacks.
I always liked the gundam F91's thruster setup a lot. looks like it could move in any direction on a dime.
(http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100328101346/gundam/images/a/a9/F91.gif)
(http://fudoushin.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/img_8198.jpg)
omg i just found someone making a costume of it
(http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2010/102/9/b/Gundam_F91_progress_Chest_side_by_sedra60.jpg)
Title: Re: Integrated Jet Boosters/Thrusters?
Post by: Sirus the Red on Jan 26, 2013, 10:26 AM
Sorry I haven't posted in a while guys, life demanded mando be put aside for a little bit, but now I'm back and rushing to finish by early March at the latest!

And wow amouro, that's quite the set of boosters on that one. Kudos to whoever is making a costume of that monster!

So I figured I might as well update where I'm at on my integrated thrusters. I want my mando to be wearable by Megacon, and I have an additional costume armor set I need to complete before then, so in the interest of time I'm only doing my backplate thrusters for now. I'll go back later on and add the additional thrusters I wanted to my calves and elbows, but I think the backplate will do just fine for now.

Here's where that's at as of the last time I worked on it:

(http://i1059.photobucket.com/albums/t437/Sirusthered/IMG_20130109_001003.jpg)

The actual thruster bit still needs to be attached to the backplate, I planned on doing that with a combination of E-6000 and bondo. Once that's done and all seams are filled, I planned on putting PVC couplings in to look like actual thrusters.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: Integrated Jet Boosters/Thrusters?
Post by: Sirus the Red on Jan 27, 2013, 01:32 PM
Minor update from last nights work. Though nothing drastic enough to notice with pictures, I did get some heat shaping done on the toilet brush holder portions of my thruster plate. Once i pick up another tube of E-6000 i'll be ready to attempt to glue and bondo everything together.
Title: Re: Integrated Jet Boosters/Thrusters For Backplate Build
Post by: Sirus the Red on Jan 31, 2013, 02:32 PM
Woo, triple post!

So instead of my original plan of bondoing the seams of my thrusters to my backplates, I've decided to go with a different method.

(http://i1059.photobucket.com/albums/t437/Sirusthered/IMG_20130131_113039.jpg)

I started off by gluing tabs of sintra to the inside of my thrusters after a bit of shaping to fit. Then I cut holes in the backplate to slide the tabs through, reheated the tabs and bent them so that the two pieces would stay secure to eachother:

(http://i1059.photobucket.com/albums/t437/Sirusthered/IMG_20130131_131738.jpg)

After that I filled in the seams and minor gaps with hotglue to keep it stable. I still have a bit of hotgluing left to do, then I might through some E-6000 over it before slapping on some epoxy to smooth everything out.

(http://i1059.photobucket.com/albums/t437/Sirusthered/IMG_20130131_131812.jpg)

Might have more to come on this as I continue to work on it throughout the day.
Title: Re: Integrated Jet Boosters/Thrusters For Backplate Build
Post by: Niabi on Jan 31, 2013, 02:37 PM
I do like these thrusters ;D
Title: Re: Integrated Jet Boosters/Thrusters For Backplate Build
Post by: Cyrus Rang on Jan 31, 2013, 04:47 PM
Very cool idea!
Title: Re: Integrated Jet Boosters/Thrusters For Backplate Build
Post by: Sirus the Red on Jan 31, 2013, 06:23 PM
Very cool idea!

I do like these thrusters ;D

Thanks vod!
Title: Re: Integrated Jet Boosters/Thrusters For Backplate Build
Post by: Sirus the Red on Jan 31, 2013, 08:21 PM
Just a quick update. Got a lot of painting done today, snapped a shot of the newly attached thruster plate with the segmented lower plate after it's new coat of red.

(http://i1059.photobucket.com/albums/t437/Sirusthered/IMG_20130131_192852_zps36fb7584.jpg)

That same red will be applied to the rest of the thruster plate eventually, with some gray detail possibly added in there.
Title: Re: Integrated Jet Boosters/Thrusters For Backplate Build
Post by: Swift on Feb 02, 2013, 09:11 PM
Looking awesome as always vod! :D Keep it up!
Title: Re: Integrated Jet Boosters/Thrusters For Backplate Build
Post by: Tracyn Ordo on Feb 02, 2013, 09:33 PM
I've got some small jump jets integrated into my backplate, so they are definitely allowed. They are quite small though. They are losely based off of an image I found of a crusader with small jets.
(http://i448.photobucket.com/albums/qq208/TracynOrdo/Tracyn%20Ordo%20Custom%20Mando%20v1/neo.jpg)
(http://i448.photobucket.com/albums/qq208/TracynOrdo/Tracyn%20Ordo%20Custom%20Mando%20v1/IMG_1489.jpg)

Hope this helps a bit :D
Title: Re: Integrated Jet Boosters/Thrusters For Backplate Build
Post by: Sirus the Red on Feb 02, 2013, 11:04 PM
Looking awesome as always vod! :D Keep it up!

Thanks Swift, right back at ya.

And Tracyn, I've been a big fan of your armor for a while now, and I never noticed those jump jets! I like them!

And they remind me of something I've been debating with doing for my own thrusters, I'm thinking about cutting down PVC couplings so that they look like nozzles and gluing them in place inside the housings I already have. Does anyone think that's necessary? I'll get a pic up showing what I mean soon.
Title: Re: Integrated Jet Boosters/Thrusters For Backplate Build
Post by: Sirus the Red on Feb 10, 2013, 12:23 AM
Quick update on my thruster plate, I threw a coat of primer down on it so I could get a better look of what the structure of it looks like without being transparent, and I rather like it:

(http://i1059.photobucket.com/albums/t437/Sirusthered/IMG_20130209_215412_zps7a987f39.jpg)

After that, I cut up some PVC couplings to sit at an angle and placed them inside, and ta-da! Nozzles!

(http://i1059.photobucket.com/albums/t437/Sirusthered/IMG_20130209_225943_zps44fb2bac.jpg)

I still have a bit of thinking to do on how exactly I want them oriented. I've also started to add layers of hotglue to places I plan to use a lot of epoxy, the hotglue is acting as a bit of a filler so I don't have to use as much epoxy to smooth everything out.
Title: Re: Integrated Jet Boosters/Thrusters For Backplate Build
Post by: Tracyn Ordo on Feb 10, 2013, 01:54 AM
Looks good vod! With such large thrusters and shroud make sure to have some sort of fuel tank type deal, so it looks like it could actually work. For mine, I was working on the theory that since they are so small, they would not be used for sustained flight, but rather hoping over high fences or up a small cliff etc, therefore the main piece of the backplate has enough bulk that it could plausibly contain enough fuel for such small manoeuvres. I guess what I am trying to say is that it should make some sort of sense visually.
Title: Re: Integrated Jet Boosters/Thrusters For Backplate Build
Post by: Sirus the Red on Feb 10, 2013, 08:38 AM
I plan on bulking up the mid section a little bit so that it looks like a plausible fuel source is inside, accessible from the inside of the plate. That, or I might take some airsoft co2 tanks and see what I can do with those.
Title: Re: Integrated Jet Boosters/Thrusters For Backplate Build
Post by: Sirus the Red on Feb 13, 2013, 12:39 AM
Quick update on my thruster pack, I've been using a lot of epoxy to fill in the seams on my thruster plates and really try to make it seem like on solid system rather than thrusters slapped onto a plate. Here's a few pics:

(http://i1059.photobucket.com/albums/t437/Sirusthered/IMG_20130212_230828_zpsbcfa2783.jpg)

(http://i1059.photobucket.com/albums/t437/Sirusthered/IMG_20130212_230900_zps30083289.jpg)

I know it all looks a little rough right now, I plan on hitting it with some spot putty and sanding the edges down to a nice, consistent angle before too long.
Title: Re: Integrated Jet Boosters/Thrusters For Backplate Build
Post by: Zul Veyrde on Feb 13, 2013, 09:49 AM
Looks awesome. Inspired me some. ;D
Title: Re: Integrated Jet Boosters/Thrusters For Backplate Build
Post by: Sirus the Red on Feb 13, 2013, 09:54 AM
Awesome! How so?
Title: Re: Integrated Jet Boosters/Thrusters For Backplate Build
Post by: Zul Veyrde on Feb 13, 2013, 02:37 PM
Awesome! How so?
helped me formulate ideas for jump jet thrusters for my backplate armor.
Check out the GAM link in my sig...
Title: Re: Integrated Jet Boosters/Thrusters?
Post by: Dar'manda on Feb 13, 2013, 04:01 PM




(http://i1059.photobucket.com/albums/t437/Sirusthered/IMG_20130109_001003.jpg)


Thoughts?

I think you got a good ideal here. But take a look at the photo. Not fil in the open areas. You got a female chest armor set on the cheap.
Title: Re: Integrated Jet Boosters/Thrusters For Backplate Build
Post by: Sirus the Red on Feb 14, 2013, 12:55 AM
Interesting idea there Vicious, might have to try that out next time a female friend wants chest plates!
Title: Re: Integrated Jet Boosters/Thrusters For Backplate Build
Post by: Dar'manda on Feb 14, 2013, 01:28 AM
its a great ideal you got. but thats an off shot of it.
Title: Re: Integrated Jet Boosters/Thrusters For Backplate Build
Post by: Dar'manda on Feb 15, 2013, 04:55 AM
I really like this idea
Title: Re: Integrated Jet Boosters/Thrusters For Backplate Build
Post by: Sirus the Red on Feb 15, 2013, 09:58 AM
Quick update on the thruster plate, which is what I spent most of my work time on yesterday.

I added a bit of apoxie to some of the final, untouched edges to fill in the seams, and I also hit the rest of my edges with some spot putty to fill even it out. Once that was sanded down and hit with a coat of primer, I was still unhappy with it, so I took a rough grit sanding bit on my dremel and evened it out a bit. This is what they looked like after a bit of cleanup:

(http://i1059.photobucket.com/albums/t437/Sirusthered/IMG_20130214_203721_zps8bf7a495.jpg)

(http://i1059.photobucket.com/albums/t437/Sirusthered/IMG_20130214_203708_zps56775dbc.jpg)

Still needs a bit more spot putty here and there, and the nozzles need to be worked a bit before they get attached, but it's getting close to being done!
Title: Re: Integrated Jet Boosters/Thrusters For Backplate Build
Post by: BobaFiend on Feb 15, 2013, 02:17 PM
The seams are still pretty rough bro, I don't think you're ready for spot putty yet. You could still do with sanding down and a few rounds of auto body filler and sanding. 
Title: Re: Integrated Jet Boosters/Thrusters For Backplate Build
Post by: Dha'ward Krayt on Feb 15, 2013, 03:01 PM
reminds me of the thruster pack in Halo 4 on the Spartan IVs. awesome so far
Title: Re: Integrated Jet Boosters/Thrusters For Backplate Build
Post by: Sirus the Red on Feb 15, 2013, 11:03 PM
The seams are still pretty rough bro, I don't think you're ready for spot putty yet. You could still do with sanding down and a few rounds of auto body filler and sanding.

Some of the seams still need a bit of work, yes. Have faith, I won't start with actual paint apps until this thing looks fantastic.

reminds me of the thruster pack in Halo 4 on the Spartan IVs. awesome so far

This is supposed to have a similar function to those, except more constant lift, and less annoying recharge time.
Title: Re: Integrated Jet Boosters/Thrusters For Backplate Build
Post by: Towhan Svel on Feb 18, 2013, 07:15 PM
Looking good vod  :D. This idea keeps reminding me of what something would look like if you combined the thruster pack from Halo and a set of Tribes: Ascend armour  8)
Title: Re: Integrated Jet Boosters/Thrusters For Backplate Build
Post by: Sirus the Red on Feb 18, 2013, 10:26 PM
Never seen the Tribes armor, but I'm glad you like it nonetheless!
Title: Re: Integrated Jet Boosters/Thrusters For Backplate Build
Post by: Thaxos on Feb 19, 2013, 01:00 AM
Looking to see how it looks once it's all painted up.
Title: Re: Integrated Jet Boosters/Thrusters For Backplate Build
Post by: Sirus the Red on Feb 19, 2013, 01:32 AM
With any luck I'll have pictures of it after a few of the base coats tomorrow night.
Title: Re: Integrated Jet Boosters/Thrusters For Backplate Build
Post by: Sirus the Red on Feb 20, 2013, 10:49 AM
Thruster plates needed a bit more work than I thought they did last night, so I only managed to get another coat of primer down to see how my sanding looked. I'm pleased with how it's turning out, I think I'm ready to start my silver coats now. I need to touch up some rough spots on the thrusters, which I think I'm painting separately before attaching the whole thing together:

(http://i1059.photobucket.com/albums/t437/Sirusthered/IMG_20130220_003630_zps689b0373.jpg)
Title: Re: Integrated Jet Boosters/Thrusters For Backplate Build
Post by: Niabi on Feb 20, 2013, 02:53 PM
They are looking pretty sweet now ;) nice and smooth
Title: Re: Integrated Jet Boosters/Thrusters For Backplate Build
Post by: BobaFiend on Feb 20, 2013, 09:52 PM
Way to go!
Title: Re: Integrated Jet Boosters/Thrusters For Backplate Build
Post by: Sirus the Red on Feb 20, 2013, 10:38 PM
Thanks vod, hoping to get the thing actually painted a bit tomorrow, expect some sort of update on them by Friday.
Title: Re: Integrated Jet Boosters/Thrusters For Backplate Build
Post by: Ran on Feb 21, 2013, 05:47 PM
Looks fantastic. :)
Title: Re: Integrated Jet Boosters/Thrusters For Backplate Build
Post by: Sirus the Red on Feb 22, 2013, 10:57 AM
Got my thruster plate painted some more last night, here's a pic of it next to the lower half of my back plate:

(http://i1059.photobucket.com/albums/t437/Sirusthered/IMG_20130222_022151_zps4c4af3b5.jpg)

The red on the thruster plate came out kind of glossy for some reason, I'll hit it with one more coat of red before I start going into the grey decals. I should probably hit the lower half with another coat as well, it seems kind of off compared to the rest of my pieces. I also rather like the nozzles silver, I may just keep them like that and add scorch marks later on. Thoughts?
Title: Re: Integrated Jet Boosters/Thrusters For Backplate Build
Post by: Pointoforigin on Feb 22, 2013, 11:56 AM
I love the look, considering doing something similar, but...

Where would you keep the fuel? Do you intend to have a fuel tank somewhere?
Title: Re: Integrated Jet Boosters/Thrusters For Backplate Build
Post by: Boba Dean on Feb 22, 2013, 12:07 PM
What a cool idea!  Awesome!!! 
Title: Re: Integrated Jet Boosters/Thrusters For Backplate Build
Post by: Sirus the Red on Feb 22, 2013, 12:39 PM
I love the look, considering doing something similar, but...

Where would you keep the fuel? Do you intend to have a fuel tank somewhere?

As of right now, my BS excuse is that I keep the fuel in compressed compartments spaced throughout the interior of the plate. These compartments are only accessible from the inside of the plate, so I have to take it off to refuel it.

In actuality, I might go back and add some obvious fuel source in the middle later on, but unfortunately I'm rushing on a rapidly approaching deadline to get this kit wearable. Before I attempt to submit an OM application, I will make many quality control alterations and adjustments, have no fear.

What a cool idea!  Awesome!!! 

Thanks vod!
Title: Re: Integrated Jet Boosters/Thrusters For Backplate Build
Post by: Niabi on Feb 22, 2013, 01:24 PM
Looking Good ;D
Title: Re: Integrated Jet Boosters/Thrusters For Backplate Build
Post by: Ori Dart on Feb 22, 2013, 02:12 PM
Looks good! You could always just add a little "filler port" greeblie somewhere so that you could claim to hook the pack up to that to replenish.
Title: Re: Integrated Jet Boosters/Thrusters For Backplate Build
Post by: Zul Veyrde on Feb 22, 2013, 05:31 PM
Looks good! You could always just add a little "filler port" greeblie somewhere so that you could claim to hook the pack up to that to replenish.

Awesome Idea!
Title: Re: Integrated Jet Boosters/Thrusters For Backplate Build
Post by: Sirus the Red on Feb 27, 2013, 09:19 AM
Interesting idea, I'll certainly consider it.  Slight update on the thruster plates, I got some grey onto both the back plates, and I'm mostly pleased with how it turned out. The tape I used to mark it off did, unfortunately, take some paint with it when I went to remove it, so I have a bit of touching up to do before I can glue the thruster nozzles on.

(http://i1059.photobucket.com/albums/t437/Sirusthered/IMG_5536_zps7ef3e885.jpg)

Not the best shot of it on my back, but it'll do for now. We didn't realize we were holding the thruster plate to high until after the picture was taken, I actually intend for the plates to be closer together.

(http://i1059.photobucket.com/albums/t437/Sirusthered/IMG_20130227_002711_zps1a374fba.jpg)

Another ground shot of them. You can't really see where the paint touch-ups are needed in thee photos, but they'll be easy enough to fix.
Title: Re: Integrated Jet Boosters/Thrusters For Backplate Build
Post by: Boba Dean on Feb 27, 2013, 06:57 PM
I like it!!!  ;D
Title: Re: Integrated Jet Boosters/Thrusters For Backplate Build
Post by: jinstarkiller on Feb 27, 2013, 07:50 PM
Very cool ....I like it ...approved ...Thumbs up .... :P
Title: Re: Integrated Jet Boosters/Thrusters For Backplate Build
Post by: Swift on Feb 27, 2013, 09:52 PM
The good thing about such minor issues is that you can cover them up with well-placed weathering!
This looks seriously awesome, Sirus! Though I'm disappointed the detailing doesn't resemble dapper facial hair :P
Title: Re: Integrated Jet Boosters/Thrusters For Backplate Build
Post by: Thaxos on Feb 27, 2013, 10:03 PM
Looking good, throw some weathering on it and scorch that plate up from the jets!
Title: Re: Integrated Jet Boosters/Thrusters For Backplate Build
Post by: Niabi on Feb 28, 2013, 04:07 PM
Looking good, throw some weathering on it and scorch that plate up from the jets!

This ^^ ;D
Title: Re: Integrated Jet Boosters/Thrusters For Backplate Build
Post by: Sirus the Red on Mar 01, 2013, 12:23 AM
Thanks for all the love guys, I'll definitely be throwing some burns and damage to it after Megacon!
Title: Re: Integrated Jet Boosters/Thrusters For Backplate Build
Post by: Ref Al'drann on Mar 01, 2013, 12:27 AM
This actually looks really good... I'm very impressed!
Title: Re: Integrated Jet Boosters/Thrusters For Backplate Build
Post by: Sirus the Red on Mar 01, 2013, 08:46 AM
Thanks Ref!
Title: Re: Integrated Jet Boosters/Thrusters For Backplate Build
Post by: Jaden Tracyn on Mar 25, 2013, 05:44 PM
I really like the slim look, I hope to make a Old Republic style jetpack thats more slim like this.
Title: Re: Integrated Jet Boosters/Thrusters For Backplate Build
Post by: Naren Sprax on May 09, 2013, 09:29 PM
Stealing this idea (or some variant). Very nice vod!
Title: Re: Integrated Jet Boosters/Thrusters For Backplate Build
Post by: Prudii Senaar on May 11, 2013, 05:15 PM
I hope mine looks this good....I'm doing something similar :P
Title: Re: Integrated Jet Boosters/Thrusters For Backplate Build
Post by: Remo Jadd on May 13, 2013, 10:47 AM
Worked out better than i thought ;) .
Title: Re: Integrated Jet Boosters/Thrusters For Backplate Build
Post by: Sirus the Red on May 29, 2013, 01:46 AM
Sorry for the lack of updates guys, ran into pre-con crunch time and haven't really made time for posting until now. That being said, I'm glad this project has been given so much love, and as a reward for waiting patiently, I come bearing gifts:

First off, how it looked while attached to me at Megacon:

(http://i1059.photobucket.com/albums/t437/Sirusthered/IMG_20130316_131326_zps621c8ade.jpg)

Admittedly not the best picture, phone camera quality, but there it is! I had just put my belt back on before this pic was taken, and the photographer neglected to mention my lower plate had caught onto one of my pouches, thus the awkward angle.

Truth be told, my armor was giving me trouble all day, and only an intervention from DGphoto4u in the form of some loctite super glue saved the heavy top piece from crashing to the ground throughout the day. Gonna work on some more solid attachment methods before my OM app, but until then, here's some of what I did earlier today:

(http://i1059.photobucket.com/albums/t437/Sirusthered/IMG_20130528_231424_zpsd52d4475.jpg)

(http://i1059.photobucket.com/albums/t437/Sirusthered/IMG_20130528_231909_zps3a105179.jpg)

Did some minor structural touch-ups since Megacon, and added some scuffing and weathering to it! It still needs a blackwash, but this is what it looks like as of right now.
Title: Re: Integrated Jet Boosters/Thrusters For Backplate Build (Updated, page 6 pics!)
Post by: Lem'zig Dee on May 29, 2013, 05:31 AM
Plastic weld 2 part epoxy and CA glue (zap-a-gap) have both worked well for me.  Not together - but at different occasions.  I used plastic weld to attach my magnets and CA for sintra to sintra - stuff ain't going nowhere!
Title: Re: Integrated Jet Boosters/Thrusters For Backplate Build (Updated, page 6 pics!)
Post by: Sirus the Red on May 29, 2013, 10:17 AM
Thanks for the tip, I'll definitely keep those in mind. I use magnets for closing my gauntlets, and I have those glued on and surrounded by epoxy to make sure they stay in place, I figured I'd do something similar for putting the magnets on my plates.
Title: Re: Integrated Jet Boosters/Thrusters For Backplate Build (Updated, page 6 pics!)
Post by: Swift on May 30, 2013, 12:20 AM
Magnets are definitely the way to go, vod. Easy, simple to re-position and do no damage to the vest. I've been meaning to take photos of my own magnet attachments, but I've been bogged down with exams lately D: How were the plates attached at Megacon?
Title: Re: Integrated Jet Boosters/Thrusters For Backplate Build (Updated, page 6 pics!)
Post by: Sirus the Red on May 30, 2013, 12:34 AM
The day started with them attached purely by velcro, though that didn't last long. By the end of the day they were primarily being held on by super glue and dreams.  :P
Title: Re: Integrated Jet Boosters/Thrusters For Backplate Build (Updated, page 6 pics!)
Post by: Sirus the Red on Jun 12, 2013, 10:54 AM
Quick update: Got my thruster plate and lower back plate weathered up and blackwashed last night:

(http://i1059.photobucket.com/albums/t437/Sirusthered/IMG_20130612_020013_zpsad8bb253.jpg)

(http://i1059.photobucket.com/albums/t437/Sirusthered/IMG_20130612_015928_zpsf851a4c9.jpg)
Title: Re: Integrated Jet Boosters/Thrusters For Backplate Build (Updated, page 6 pics!)
Post by: Riven Kassle on Jun 12, 2013, 05:32 PM
Quick update: Got my thruster plate and lower back plate weathered up and blackwashed last night:

(http://i1059.photobucket.com/albums/t437/Sirusthered/IMG_20130612_020013_zpsad8bb253.jpg)

Loving it!  Very nice work with the weathering bro!
Title: Re: Integrated Jet Boosters/Thrusters For Backplate Build (Updated, page 6 pics!)
Post by: Sirus the Red on Jun 13, 2013, 11:20 AM
Thanks vod! I was actually really concerned that I was going to mess it up before I started, but I got the hang of it as I played with it.
Title: Re: Integrated Jet Boosters/Thrusters For Backplate Build (Updated, page 6 pics!)
Post by: Riven Kassle on Jun 13, 2013, 04:20 PM
Well I'm happy for you that it worked nicely on the first try.  I'd say, even if you had to repaint a few times to get it right, ultimately it would be worth it to have that satisfaction of getting it right.  I often discover new ways and techniques while experimenting and I think that's most of the fun :)

once again, two thumbs way up!
Title: Re: Integrated Jet Boosters/Thrusters For Backplate Build (Updated, page 6 pics!)
Post by: Sirus the Red on Jun 15, 2013, 12:29 AM
While I do love a good learning experience, I'm very happy that I didn't have to do any major repainting!
Title: Re: Integrated Jet Boosters/Thrusters For Backplate Build (Updated, page 6 pics!)
Post by: Tor'dola Magnus on Jun 16, 2013, 01:06 PM
This.  Is awesome.

I really like seeing it go from an idea, to exactly what it is supposed to be.
Title: Re: Integrated Jet Boosters/Thrusters For Backplate Build (Updated, page 6 pics!)
Post by: Sirus the Red on Jun 16, 2013, 05:51 PM
This.  Is awesome.

I really like seeing it go from an idea, to exactly what it is supposed to be.

Thanks so much!

There was certainly a large transition of design from sketch to prototype to finished product, but it worked out great in the end!
Title: Re: Integrated Jet Boosters/Thrusters For Backplate Build (Updated, page 6 pics!)
Post by: Tor'dola Magnus on Jun 16, 2013, 06:56 PM
I may have to use this idea for my daughter's kit.  it'd be much easier for a 5 year old to wear than a big jet pack.
Title: Re: Integrated Jet Boosters/Thrusters For Backplate Build (Updated, page 6 pics!)
Post by: Sirus the Red on Jun 16, 2013, 07:11 PM
Be my guest, my only request is that you link the build thread back to me so I can take a look at it!  ;D
Title: Re: Integrated Jet Boosters/Thrusters For Backplate Build (Updated, page 6 pics!)
Post by: Tor'dola Magnus on Jun 16, 2013, 07:18 PM
of course!  you should actually check out my jump pack endeavour.  link is in my sig.