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Mandalorian Armor => Helmets => Topic started by: Tyno Krast on May 18, 2013, 05:33 PM

Title: Tyno Krast bucket (Asok CC)
Post by: Tyno Krast on May 18, 2013, 05:33 PM
I've got a main build thread going on but since I'm just focusing on the bucket at the moment I thought I'd post the helmet WIP here.

The journey begins with a fine cold cast helmet from Asok.

(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad128/TommyDeluxe/Tyno%20Krast/CIMG6011_zps45fc3b70.jpg)

I took this to show the difference between the sanded areas and the un-sanded areas. If anyone is considering getting a cold cast helmet stop thinking about it and just do it already!

(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad128/TommyDeluxe/Tyno%20Krast/CIMG6107_zps706510cf.jpg)

Sadly the dent was filled. A 2 part epoxy putty was used then sanded flush. I'll either use rub-n-buff to go over the spot or just hit it with some metalic silver spray paint.

(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad128/TommyDeluxe/Tyno%20Krast/CIMG6118_zps7a45659b.jpg)
(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad128/TommyDeluxe/Tyno%20Krast/CIMG6119_zps448a28c5.jpg)
(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad128/TommyDeluxe/Tyno%20Krast/CIMG6120_zps404a61c6.jpg)
(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad128/TommyDeluxe/Tyno%20Krast/CIMG6121_zps1d46e254.jpg)

Next is getting the visor installed.

The visor itself is a beauty from t-visor.com! Great product!

(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad128/TommyDeluxe/Tyno%20Krast/CIMG6196_zpse86a25d4.jpg)

Although there are many ways to mount the visor I opted for a system that would allow me a bit of air flow as well as the ability to remove the visor for cleaning or replacement. Like many before me I anchored bolts directly to the bucket.

Basically what I did was measure out where I needed the visor to be anchored. I decided on bolts at the top center, inner points of the cheeks, and one on each mandible.
After learning the hard way on a Night Owl helmet I put together, I did the forehead bolt first. This let me get and keep the visor centered while I did the other bolts. I then did the mandible bolts followed by the cheek bolts. I found that by doing the bolts in this order I was able to keep everything lined up.

(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad128/TommyDeluxe/Tyno%20Krast/CIMG6203_zpse118e23b.jpg)

After drilling each hole in the visor I used a small hand file to open the holes up a bit more. Then I placed the visor into the helmet with the bolt in the visor in order to get the proper placement.

(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad128/TommyDeluxe/Tyno%20Krast/CIMG6207_zps2238da3d.jpg)

I then used a few drops of CA glue (Zap-A-Gap) and a pinch of baking soda to tack the bolt into place. Next I removed the visor and added more CA glue and baking soda to fill the gaps and cement the bolt into place.

(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad128/TommyDeluxe/Tyno%20Krast/CIMG6205_zps1b56d0a4.jpg)

I'm a huge fan of CA glue and baking soda. If you haven't used it yet give it a try. While CA glue does bond well for seems and gaps it can be brittle when it comes to other applications. Especially anchoring. However, when you sprinkle baking soda onto the CA glue it not only dries the glue instantly but it also creates a rock hard bond. Of course it helps of you score the area well before using this method.


 Finally got the dent blended in. You can still see it a bit but I'm thinking with the base coat and come creative weathering I should be able to get it virtually invisible.

I think this baby is ready for paint. Please let me know what you think and as always critiques/suggestions are welcome

(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad128/TommyDeluxe/Tyno%20Krast/CIMG6217_zps19f24a6b.jpg)
(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad128/TommyDeluxe/Tyno%20Krast/CIMG6227_zps3e5f0dd7.jpg)
(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad128/TommyDeluxe/Tyno%20Krast/CIMG6221_zps9d06185c.jpg)
(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad128/TommyDeluxe/Tyno%20Krast/CIMG6230_zps27ebc078.jpg)
(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad128/TommyDeluxe/Tyno%20Krast/CIMG6233_zpsff7b8fc9.jpg)
(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad128/TommyDeluxe/Tyno%20Krast/CIMG6235_zpse47f9185.jpg)
(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad128/TommyDeluxe/Tyno%20Krast/CIMG6238_zps748520f8.jpg)

Made some progress today. This took A LOT longer than I thought it would. Typical rookie mistake.

Although this was really time intensive I tried not to rush it.

After doing some research I really like the layered weathering effect and decided to go with that technique.

My first step was to draw out where I wanted damage. After that I grabbed a tube of Pepsedent and a small paint brush and went to work.

The paint brush was actually one I was going to toss out because the bristles had dried paint on them. But it seemed to work out ok for applying toothpaste :-)

After over 3hrs of painting on toothpaste I hit the bucket with 2 coats of grey primer. Then took about 2 hours to clean off the toothpaste.

Here is the result........

(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad128/TommyDeluxe/Tyno%20Krast/CIMG6297_zpsc29e72df.jpg)
(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad128/TommyDeluxe/Tyno%20Krast/CIMG6292_zpsf17c1730.jpg)
(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad128/TommyDeluxe/Tyno%20Krast/CIMG6291_zps50ba07ad.jpg)
(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad128/TommyDeluxe/Tyno%20Krast/CIMG6288_zps5cc2879f.jpg)
(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad128/TommyDeluxe/Tyno%20Krast/CIMG6287_zps59917a2b.jpg)
(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad128/TommyDeluxe/Tyno%20Krast/CIMG6285_zps550070e8.jpg)
(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad128/TommyDeluxe/Tyno%20Krast/CIMG6283_zps8049eb41.jpg)
(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad128/TommyDeluxe/Tyno%20Krast/CIMG6282_zps7bc05e4a.jpg)
(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad128/TommyDeluxe/Tyno%20Krast/CIMG6281_zps1ac61b3f.jpg)
(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad128/TommyDeluxe/Tyno%20Krast/CIMG6276_zpsadc82dcc.jpg)


This is where I'm at so far. Please let me know what you think.

Title: Re: Tyno Krast bucket (Asok CC)
Post by: Naren Sprax on May 19, 2013, 12:22 PM
Awesome! Chipping seems a bit heavy for my tastes but I think you know what you are doing. Plus the great thing about layering is if you think it's too heavy in one spot just don't mask again on the next layer. I am about to paint over my masking fluid this morning, just wanted to get the muses going, and I'd say I need more masking on mine after looking at yours  :P, may have gone too light on mine.

Looks great vod, keep it up
Title: Re: Tyno Krast bucket (Asok CC)
Post by: Tyno Krast on May 20, 2013, 01:58 PM
Thanks vod

Yeah I went kind of nuts with the damage lol

I've spent the last couple of years doing screen accurate costumes. So when you get a chance to build a mando you taste freedom! It's easy to go overboard lol.
Title: Re: Tyno Krast bucket (Asok CC)
Post by: Niabi on May 20, 2013, 02:41 PM
Very Nice work vod ;) very nice indeed ;D im looking forward to following this one ;)
Title: Re: Tyno Krast bucket (Asok CC)
Post by: Tyno Krast on May 20, 2013, 05:10 PM
Thanks Niabi. I hope I do you proud!

Ok....I pulled off the tape, cleaned up the toothpaste and this is what I got...

(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad128/TommyDeluxe/Tyno%20Krast/CIMG6333_zps6eeb8df8.jpg)
(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad128/TommyDeluxe/Tyno%20Krast/CIMG6326_zps53056465.jpg)
(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad128/TommyDeluxe/Tyno%20Krast/CIMG6331_zpsae9c53b2.jpg)

And here's poor Tyno sitting on the shelf next to little "Mr. Perfect"
(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad128/TommyDeluxe/Tyno%20Krast/CIMG6342_zps7fe9d88f.jpg)


I'm not 100% happy with the way it's turned out so far. But I've still got 3 layers of color, topical weathering, and the final detailing to go. I'm making a lot of mistakes but it's a learning experience.

A few words of warning for those who might be looking to do this......

1- If you use any type of masking fluid plan out and mask off an area smaller than you actually want. Otherwise you'll get chips/scratches that are much bigger than you initially planned.

2- If you're going to use toothpaste on a cold cast helmet see how it reacts to a small area first. I'm using Pepsident brand. Sure it's got a minty fresh smell and my bucket doesn't suffer from gingivitis but the toothpaste did darken and discolor the helmet a bit. It's not too bad, not all metal is shiny. But it's darker than I would like. For the rest of the helmet I'll be using actual masking fluid.

3-As I was writing tip number 2 I forgot tip number 3. Sorry.

Tomorrow the plan is to start laying down color to the visor and the jaig eyes.

I'm still not 100% sure what color to do the cheek wells and the back of the bucket. initially I was going to go with a tan/beige color for the cheeks and an almond color for the back. Any thoughts from the pros would be most welcome.

Thanks for taking the time to look at this.
Title: Re: Tyno Krast bucket (Asok CC)
Post by: asok on May 21, 2013, 10:31 AM
Love the build!  It is so cool to see what people do with the helmets I cast.  When I cast a helmet I do sometimes wonder what it will look like when it's done.
Title: Re: Tyno Krast bucket (Asok CC)
Post by: Pointoforigin on May 21, 2013, 11:02 AM
Looks great! Mmmm Asok CC with jaig eyes, where have I seen that before? :P

Very much looking forward to seeing where this ends up.
Title: Re: Tyno Krast bucket (Asok CC)
Post by: Tyno Krast on May 21, 2013, 11:44 AM
lol Don't worry....my Jaig eyes will be a little different. If mine turn out half as good as yours I'll be happy :-)

Asok it has been a pleasure to work on your helmet! This is the first time I've had a chance to really cut loose and use my imagination on a costume. All my other costumes have just been replicas so I've been kind of confined. Until now!

We're lucky to have helmets like this to work on. I don't have the skills to scratch build so I can't tell you enough how much I appreciate the effort that has gone into producing this beast.

It's so much easier to work with something well made. i've worked on 3 other mando helmets for friends and they were rough coming out of the box. One looked like my 6 year old daughter sculpted it in her kindergarten art class...and my friend paid $250+ for that stinker. But this bucket was a work of art out of the box. Can't say enough great things about this helmet. I only hope I can do it justice.

Speaking of that I need some expert opinions....brutally honest opinions please.....

A buddy of mine who saw the helmet in person said the weathering looked a little too deliberate. I tried my best to randomize the shape, size and pattern of the weathering but now I'm looking at it again and wondering if I should strip and start over. But I've still got more to do and I'd rather look at the finished product before I decide to strip it.

What do you guys think?

Title: Re: Tyno Krast bucket (Asok CC)
Post by: Pointoforigin on May 21, 2013, 11:48 AM
Nah. Once you have the final coat of colour on it, hit it with some sandpaper to blend it all in.

Even Boba helmets at this stage look like deliberate weathering. Because, well, they are :P
Title: Re: Tyno Krast bucket (Asok CC)
Post by: Vhett Naast on May 21, 2013, 11:56 AM
Naw, that looks real good man  8)
Title: Re: Tyno Krast bucket (Asok CC)
Post by: Niabi on May 22, 2013, 12:16 PM
Very Nice work vod ;) This is turning out to be a great bucket ;)
Title: Re: Tyno Krast bucket (Asok CC)
Post by: Proph on May 22, 2013, 04:11 PM
I'm diggin it vod. You have a nice lid there
Title: Re: Tyno Krast bucket (Asok CC)
Post by: OriKad on May 23, 2013, 01:02 AM
That's reminding me of doing my wife's last bucket.  Yeah, once you get all the colors in, the weathering starts looking less deliberate.  The chips, dings, dents, and scratches you put in with some of the chips helps that a lot...

Now for what I found out:  Don't forget to add weathering spots on each layer, for chips that only took off the top layer, or the first two layers, rather than all the way down to metal.  You might also try gel deodorant as a masking fluid.  It works better than toothpaste in my experience.
Title: Re: Tyno Krast bucket (Asok CC)
Post by: Naren Sprax on May 23, 2013, 02:52 PM
Looks great! Great example to follow along as I do mine. My 5 year old son told me my helmet still looks fake the other day. Ouch. But he said it looks good though.  :laugh: I don't think you should start over at all. Like the others said, it's hard for some of it to not look deliberate in the early stages. Gonna look super when it's all done.
Title: Re: Tyno Krast bucket (Asok CC)
Post by: Tyno Krast on May 23, 2013, 03:59 PM
Thanks everyone! Coming from you guys it means a lot!

 After about 327 hours of masking I was finally able to start laying down some color to the jaig eyes and visor. If all goes well I should be able to get the eyes and visor fully painted tonight.

OriKad I'm already on it. I've been using Boba as a referance for the paint so I'm making sure to leave different layers showing through at different levels.  ;D

Adam I'm thinking the brutal honesty of a 5 year old is the best way to go  :laugh:

Thanks again everyone for taking the time to watch the rookie work and for giving me some much needed advice. 
Title: Re: Tyno Krast bucket (Asok CC)
Post by: Tyno Krast on May 24, 2013, 07:47 AM
First layer of color is down.

(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad128/TommyDeluxe/Tyno%20Krast/CIMG6360_zps29fbe858.jpg)
(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad128/TommyDeluxe/Tyno%20Krast/CIMG6345_zps38555124.jpg)
(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad128/TommyDeluxe/Tyno%20Krast/CIMG6358_zpsce3968ae.jpg)
(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad128/TommyDeluxe/Tyno%20Krast/CIMG6352_zpsd7db418b.jpg)
(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad128/TommyDeluxe/Tyno%20Krast/CIMG6354_zps1f773067.jpg)



For the next layer should I do an esthetic primer between the blue and the next layer or just put the next layer right over the blue?
Title: Re: Tyno Krast bucket (Asok CC)
Post by: Vhett Naast on May 24, 2013, 07:55 AM
This is looking real good  8)  I've never done a primer layer in-between coats, so I'd say just put on your next one.  But it is up to you  ;)
Title: Re: Tyno Krast bucket (Asok CC)
Post by: Naren Sprax on May 24, 2013, 01:26 PM
Looks great! Not sure I understand what the "aesthetic primer" layer would do. Wouldn't that just cover all that pretty blue? Or would it just be a dusting of color?
Title: Re: Tyno Krast bucket (Asok CC)
Post by: Tyno Krast on May 26, 2013, 07:30 AM
Thanks vode! It's getting there. Going to slap down the next layer of color today. No aesthetic primer.

The "aesthetic" primer is just supposed to simulate an "in universe" primer or old helmet color. For example...if you didn't have a cold cast helmet you might want to hit the lid with a primer, then lay down a coat of metallic, then add the aesthetic primer. But because of the cold cast there really isn't a need to do that. However, I was thinking that maybe a mando might prime before adding a new layer of color. But really....would a mando give osik about more primer? Probably not. So I'm just going for color over color.  :P

The blue does look kind of cool but it's not my primary color. Because I've done two different Cpt Rex costumes old man Rex has been a pretty big part of my life for a couple of years. So the blue is my nod to him. Also the backstory for Tyno includes Rex and the 501st Legion. So Tyno himself has a lot of respect for Rex. So for a long time he honored the Old Man by wearing his colors.

But I think if I went with just the blue then it would be too close to Rex and either not acceptable for OM or confusing for civies. Hell, whenever I wear my TIE gear people call me Darth Vader. So I'm pretty sure if kids see a guy in white armor with blue markings and blue jaig eyes I'd be called Rex. I want the nod to be visible but not overly obvious. So the pretty blue will be mostly covered with red. It'll show through in a few areas. but for the most part it will be subtle....at least that's the plan. I'm not very good at subtle.  ;D
Title: Re: Tyno Krast bucket (Asok CC)
Post by: Tyno Krast on May 26, 2013, 08:57 PM
Not very happy with the results. Still have all of the topical weathering and grime to do. As well as the color for the cheek well and back of the helmet. But at the moment I'm not thrilled with the color scheme.

I think I'll also touch up the jaig eyes a bit. I like them but I think they are a little too damaged.

(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad128/TommyDeluxe/Tyno%20Krast/CIMG6364_zpsa2f2d38e.jpg)
(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad128/TommyDeluxe/Tyno%20Krast/CIMG6367_zpse9a4b8de.jpg)
(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad128/TommyDeluxe/Tyno%20Krast/CIMG6374_zps438c494d.jpg)
Title: Re: Tyno Krast bucket (Asok CC)
Post by: Naren Sprax on May 26, 2013, 09:40 PM
I know you have more weathering and grime to go and perhaps that would tone the blue down a bit? With your experience I'm sure it'll end up looking good. But to be brutally honest, I get a painters tape vibe off the blue bits, but I'm guessing that is mostly because I have been using it a lot lately.  :P Civies probably wouldn't see it like I am. Maybe more blue as a top color somewhere might help?
Title: Re: Tyno Krast bucket (Asok CC)
Post by: Pointoforigin on May 26, 2013, 09:52 PM
I'd be pretty happy with that :P

Yeah maybe use the blue for the upper cheeks there? That wold tie it together nicely.
Title: Re: Tyno Krast bucket (Asok CC)
Post by: Vhett Naast on May 26, 2013, 10:38 PM
I think that looks pretty doggone sweet.  8)  I agree with Point, blue on the upper cheeks might help tie it together.
Title: Re: Tyno Krast bucket (Asok CC)
Post by: Naren Sprax on May 26, 2013, 11:47 PM
I'd be pretty happy with that :P

Yeah maybe use the blue for the upper cheeks there? That wold tie it together nicely.

That's what I was thinking. And I agree the overall look is great!
Title: Re: Tyno Krast bucket (Asok CC)
Post by: Tyno Krast on May 28, 2013, 10:40 AM
Thanks for the feedback vode. I can't tell you how much I appreciate it.

Initially the plan was to do the cheek wells in a beige/tan type color. But you guys think the Rex blue would be best?
Title: Re: Tyno Krast bucket (Asok CC)
Post by: Pointoforigin on May 28, 2013, 10:47 AM
It's completely up to you, but it would make sense.
Title: Re: Tyno Krast bucket (Asok CC)
Post by: Niabi on May 28, 2013, 03:23 PM
Very Nice work vod ;) Im liking it a lot ;) and i agree with the blue on the cheeks
Title: Re: Tyno Krast bucket (Asok CC)
Post by: Jango Jet on Jun 01, 2013, 03:36 PM
Very cool  8)
Title: Re: Tyno Krast bucket (Asok CC)
Post by: Arador Khel on Jun 12, 2013, 05:12 PM
nice work.  your images of the screws secured to the inside of the bucket is exactly what I've been looking for!  thanx for the intel!
Title: Re: Tyno Krast bucket (Asok CC)
Post by: Tyno Krast on Jun 15, 2013, 05:29 PM
Thanks everyone.

Glad I could help you out Arador!

Well I decided on a repaint. There was just too much about it that I didn't like.

The red/blue/white just wasn't doing it for me and I think I did go a little overboard with the weathering. Especially around the jaig eyes.

So I stripped off all the paint and got it back down to the cold cast base.

What I'm looking at doing now is a grey main coat (dome and cheeks) with either dark green or black in the cheek wells, and either yellow or orange for the visor and jaig eyes.

I keep leaning toward yellow but I think the grey/orange combo might look ok as well. Still undecided.

At the moment I've got all of the chips drawn on and will be laying down the toothpaste and "primer" later this weekend. I'll get pics up ASAP

Thanks again everyone for the support and advice.
Title: Re: Tyno Krast bucket (Asok CC)
Post by: Tyno Krast on Jun 17, 2013, 05:41 PM
quick update

Strip and repaint underway. I decided to tone down the damage a bit.

This layer was meant to be the "rust" layer but I'm thinking I might just make it the aesthetic primer layer and go right into the main paint job. Your thoughts?

Because I still can't decide on a color scheme I'm going with grey for the dome and cheeks, black/OD green for the cheek wells, and white for the jaig eyes and visor trim.

(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad128/TommyDeluxe/Tyno%20Krast/CIMG6444_zps729633ac.jpg)
(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad128/TommyDeluxe/Tyno%20Krast/CIMG6452_zpsb1331e37.jpg)
(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad128/TommyDeluxe/Tyno%20Krast/CIMG6455_zpscea69cfa.jpg)
(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad128/TommyDeluxe/Tyno%20Krast/CIMG6456_zps7636f7f1.jpg)
Title: Re: Tyno Krast bucket (Asok CC)
Post by: Naren Sprax on Jun 18, 2013, 12:25 PM
Nice orange-y red. I think if that were to be rust, it would be overkill. I know a lot would be covered up, but still I think rust should be kept to a few spots here and there, like around edges of greebs and stuff, if at all. Beskar doesn't rust right?  :P Guess it's Durasteel? But I do like the richness of the color. I thought the helmet looked good before too though.  :'(
Title: Re: Tyno Krast bucket (Asok CC)
Post by: Vhett Naast on Jun 18, 2013, 12:30 PM
looks good.  Whatever you think is best I'd say  8)
Title: Re: Tyno Krast bucket (Asok CC)
Post by: Naren Sprax on Jun 18, 2013, 12:57 PM
looks good.  Whatever you think is best I'd say  8)

^This.
Title: Re: Tyno Krast bucket (Asok CC)
Post by: Niabi on Jun 18, 2013, 02:42 PM
That looks great vod ;)
Title: Re: Tyno Krast bucket (Asok CC)
Post by: Tyno Krast on Jun 24, 2013, 10:44 PM
The base colors are done! Now I need to do the fine detail weathering, clean up on some of the lines/edges, jaig eyes, then black wash. I'm not 100% happy with it but I do like it much better than the white/red/blue color scheme.

And as soon as I find my wayward camera I'll get some pics posted
Title: Re: Tyno Krast bucket (Asok CC)
Post by: Tyno Krast on Jun 25, 2013, 10:58 AM
The bucket is close to completion. I've still got some clean up to do around the cheeks and trim as well as the fine topical detailing, grime application, jaig eyes, and black wash. Still a few days of work left.

I'm not sure about the yellow on the back. I'll see how it turns out after the grime and blackwash. But at the moment I'm not loving it.

I'm also not sure about the ear caps. I was thinking of doing them in a different color but I kind of like them as is. Any thoughts?

(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad128/TommyDeluxe/Tyno%20Krast/CIMG6475_zps4cacb468.jpg)
(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad128/TommyDeluxe/Tyno%20Krast/CIMG6478_zps86fb9ea4.jpg)
(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad128/TommyDeluxe/Tyno%20Krast/CIMG6485_zps9e7f1e79.jpg)
(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad128/TommyDeluxe/Tyno%20Krast/CIMG6488_zpsac0d5e5b.jpg)
Title: Re: Tyno Krast bucket (Asok CC)
Post by: Pointoforigin on Jun 25, 2013, 11:28 AM
Yeah the yellow on the back looks a little funny to me... maybe do the earcaps in that to tie it in? It's not that it's a weird colour in itself, it's that it's not present anywhere else on the bucket. And yes blackwash will help it.
Title: Re: Tyno Krast bucket (Asok CC)
Post by: Vhett Naast on Jun 25, 2013, 11:54 AM
 8)  8)  8)


Loving the new paint scheme  ;D
Title: Re: Tyno Krast bucket (Asok CC)
Post by: Tyno Krast on Jun 25, 2013, 12:47 PM
Thanks Vhett!

Yeah I think I was too much in Boba Emulation mode. He's got some off colors on the back of his bucket. But the yellow just isn't doing it for me. I'm thinking maybe replacing the yellow with black to pick up the black in the cheek wells.

But I'll probably change my mind in 10 minutes anyway  ;D
Title: Re: Tyno Krast bucket (Asok CC)
Post by: Vhett Naast on Jun 25, 2013, 01:22 PM
I'd keep the yellow, I like it.  If you had some somewhere else it would tie in nicely.  Maybe a few yellow kill marks?
Title: Re: Tyno Krast bucket (Asok CC)
Post by: Niabi on Jun 25, 2013, 02:26 PM
I really like this bucket vod looks awesome ;)

dont forget to add some scratches before you do your wash ;D
Title: Re: Tyno Krast bucket (Asok CC)
Post by: Tyno Krast on Jun 25, 2013, 04:17 PM
Hmmm.....yellow kill marks......

The plan is to do the detail weathering (smaller scratches and scrapes as well as topical scratches), then the black wash, then the grime. Or should I do grime first then black wash.

The grime will be a mix of browns that will get dry brushed into the little nooks and crannies. Just to add a little more depth and cover up any rough edges or overspray.
Title: Re: Tyno Krast bucket (Asok CC)
Post by: Tyno Krast on Jun 27, 2013, 08:30 AM
I decided to tone down the yellow a bit. Something about it was throwing me off. But I do like the yellow and will probably do the kills in yellow.

(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad128/TommyDeluxe/Tyno%20Krast/CIMG6505_zps1e379b81.jpg)
(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad128/TommyDeluxe/Tyno%20Krast/CIMG6507_zpsce710840.jpg)
(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad128/TommyDeluxe/Tyno%20Krast/CIMG6510_zpsf916ea31.jpg)

As you can see there are some "dings" that were created when I sprayed over the old yellow. I was thinking about filling them in but I kind of like them. Especially the scratch on the right side. It will be interesting to see how the black wash makes those recessed areas look.

Next up will be the masking for the jaig eyes. Then I can finally get on to the fun part....weathering!!!   
Title: Re: Tyno Krast bucket (Asok CC)
Post by: MC-3P0 on Jun 27, 2013, 09:29 AM
The helmet is looking very nice
Title: Re: Tyno Krast bucket (Asok CC)
Post by: Vhett Naast on Jun 27, 2013, 12:56 PM
Like what you did there.
Title: Re: Tyno Krast bucket (Asok CC)
Post by: Uneek Top'El on Jun 27, 2013, 09:28 PM
Yep, great Work !! Love the color palet !!
Title: Re: Tyno Krast bucket (Asok CC)
Post by: Tyno Krast on Jul 01, 2013, 10:13 AM
Thanks 'vode!

I appreciate all of the feedback.

The jaig eyes are on and with them the end of the masking!!!!! (well....until I do the ear caps and kill marks  :laugh: )

(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad128/TommyDeluxe/Tyno%20Krast/CIMG6522_zpsf6e7c76b.jpg)
(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad128/TommyDeluxe/Tyno%20Krast/CIMG6525_zps18931b10.jpg)
(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad128/TommyDeluxe/Tyno%20Krast/CIMG6526_zps996c8bd3.jpg)

Next up will be a bit of topical weathering followed by grime then a final blackwash.
Title: Re: Tyno Krast bucket (Asok CC)
Post by: Vhett Naast on Jul 01, 2013, 12:18 PM
Sweet, good job on those  8)  just gets better and better man.
Title: Re: Tyno Krast bucket (Asok CC)
Post by: Tyno Krast on Jul 01, 2013, 05:57 PM
Thanks vod!

Ok....got the first layer of weathering on. A layer of grime and some blackwash.

Sorry in advance for posting so many photos.

(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad128/TommyDeluxe/Tyno%20Krast/CIMG6535_zpsa1d12c76.jpg)
(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad128/TommyDeluxe/Tyno%20Krast/CIMG6538_zpsf179595c.jpg)
(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad128/TommyDeluxe/Tyno%20Krast/CIMG6541_zps1039077d.jpg)
(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad128/TommyDeluxe/Tyno%20Krast/CIMG6542_zps2e081b97.jpg)
(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad128/TommyDeluxe/Tyno%20Krast/CIMG6546_zpsca924433.jpg)
(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad128/TommyDeluxe/Tyno%20Krast/CIMG6549_zps32cbd912.jpg)
(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad128/TommyDeluxe/Tyno%20Krast/CIMG6551_zps8336835a.jpg)
(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad128/TommyDeluxe/Tyno%20Krast/CIMG6561_zps0d742d6d.jpg)


Next will be some clean up of the black wash. This first layer was just to get the grime where it needed to go. So before I do the next layer I'll go over the bucket and sand down some of the areas that look a little too slap-dash and/or deliberate. Plus it will blend in some of the weathering to give it a more natural look....I hope.  :laugh:

Once that layer is done I'll go back over the helmet and do some general clean up, touch up the weathering, add a little carbon scoring, and that should be it.

If anyone has any suggestions or criticisms please feel free to to comment.
Title: Re: Tyno Krast bucket (Asok CC)
Post by: Vhett Naast on Jul 01, 2013, 06:43 PM
So uh, when did you say you where going to ship this to me? I'm ready.


 :P  :P  :P



was worth a shot, haha.   Helmet looks outstanding man  8)
Title: Re: Tyno Krast bucket (Asok CC)
Post by: Tracyn Ordo on Jul 01, 2013, 07:42 PM
Damn man! That looks frakking amazeballs! Very nicely done.
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Post by: Uneek Top'El on Jul 01, 2013, 07:48 PM
Yep frackin Awesome !!  :o
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Post by: Pointoforigin on Jul 01, 2013, 09:16 PM
Duuuuuude. Awesome.
Title: Re: Tyno Krast bucket (Asok CC)
Post by: Jim_rush51 on Jul 01, 2013, 09:43 PM
Holy canoli that is an amazing paint job.
Title: Re: Tyno Krast bucket (Asok CC)
Post by: Tyno Krast on Jul 02, 2013, 07:40 AM
So uh, when did you say you where going to ship this to me? I'm ready.


 :P  :P  :P



was worth a shot, haha.   Helmet looks outstanding man  8)

As soon as you send me yours I'll send you mine  :P


Thanks for the kind words everyone. It is always appreciated.


Ok....so I think the bucket is done....for now.....(is any costume part ever really done)

I think I'm going to go through and add a bit more blackwash to some of the cuts/gashes in the helmet. Just to try and make them pop a bit more.

Please have a look and let me know if there is anything that I should fix or improve. I'm sure I overlooked something so please let me know.

(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad128/TommyDeluxe/Tyno%20Krast/CIMG6576_zps254833d3.jpg)
(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad128/TommyDeluxe/Tyno%20Krast/CIMG6582_zps8106bf54.jpg)
(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad128/TommyDeluxe/Tyno%20Krast/CIMG6579_zpsca5f81d6.jpg)
(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad128/TommyDeluxe/Tyno%20Krast/CIMG6567_zps3d86b680.jpg)
(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad128/TommyDeluxe/Tyno%20Krast/CIMG6573_zps4650cb17.jpg)
Title: Re: Tyno Krast bucket (Asok CC)
Post by: Tyno Krast on Jul 02, 2013, 09:47 AM
I think this is it for the lid....

I added some random grime, fingerprints, oil splatter/drip, things like that. I also added a bit more weathering to the jaig eyes to try and bring them more in line with the rest of the bucket.

(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad128/TommyDeluxe/Tyno%20Krast/CIMG6587_zps58bd1ddd.jpg)
(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad128/TommyDeluxe/Tyno%20Krast/CIMG6589_zps5d5c75e9.jpg)

And please let me know if there is anything that I should change/fix or if there is anything that I've overlooked.

If it's good to go then I'll start on the armor :-)
Title: Re: Tyno Krast bucket (Asok CC)
Post by: Pointoforigin on Jul 02, 2013, 11:05 AM
That looks truly great. And you're right, it's not "Done" at all :P Ever. But it is at a point where you can VERY happily walk away from it now.

I particularly like the weathering on the jaig eyes. Lots of folks are scared to weather the detail painting like that, and I feel it makes for a much more realistic paint job if you do.
Title: Re: Tyno Krast bucket (Asok CC)
Post by: Vhett Naast on Jul 02, 2013, 11:24 AM
Yes....this is very good...



(http://i1246.photobucket.com/albums/gg620/mjsnyder2/Funny%20stuff/orsonclapping_zps658eac03.gif) (http://s1246.photobucket.com/user/mjsnyder2/media/Funny%20stuff/orsonclapping_zps658eac03.gif.html)
Title: Re: Tyno Krast bucket (Asok CC)
Post by: Niabi on Jul 02, 2013, 03:09 PM
Love it ;)
Title: Re: Tyno Krast bucket (Asok CC)
Post by: Nirob on Jul 02, 2013, 07:22 PM
Good job. Now on for the armor.
Title: Re: Tyno Krast bucket (Asok CC)
Post by: Uneek Top'El on Jul 02, 2013, 07:49 PM
The weathering is perfect, great work, can't wait to see the armor !! Oya !!
Title: Re: Tyno Krast bucket (Asok CC)
Post by: Tracyn Ordo on Jul 02, 2013, 08:53 PM
Oh man, you've done a stellar job on that. Now hurry up and get working on the rest of the kit, cos I'm already itching for progress updates! ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Tyno Krast bucket (Asok CC)
Post by: MC-3P0 on Jul 03, 2013, 04:25 AM
 8) this is top notch work!
Title: Re: Tyno Krast bucket (Asok CC)
Post by: Tyno Krast on Jul 03, 2013, 05:01 AM
Thank you ner'vode!

The armor has begun!
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Post by: Jango Jet on Jul 03, 2013, 06:35 AM
Phantastic  8)
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Post by: Moscou on Jul 10, 2013, 04:57 PM
WOW Sick bucket!!!  :o

LOVE IT!!!  :D
Title: Re: Tyno Krast bucket (Asok CC)
Post by: Thaxos on Jul 11, 2013, 03:33 PM
Simply outstanding.
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Post by: Tyno Krast on Jul 12, 2013, 07:06 AM
Thanks everyone! I really appreciate it!

I've had a few PMs asking how I did some of the weathering. If it would help I can make a quick video. It's an easy process that actually had more "happy little accidents" (~Bob Ross) than actual planned technique.

I started out using a couple of tried and true methods but my lack of skill with mando weathering screwed up those methods and caused a lot of "OH $H!T" moments  :laugh:

But if it helps I'll put together a video so people can avoid the mistakes and get right on to the juicy mando goodness.
Title: Re: Tyno Krast bucket (Asok CC)
Post by: Ashen Kelborn on Jul 14, 2013, 04:59 PM
Please do, it would be invaluable to shiny's like myself that would like kit as epic as that