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Mandalorian Armor => Armor Construction => Topic started by: Cin Vhe'rang on Jul 04, 2014, 09:56 PM

Title: Vhe'dala Darklighter, New Member.
Post by: Cin Vhe'rang on Jul 04, 2014, 09:56 PM
Well, it's time to get back to basics.  My first kit, Echo, was much beloved, but carried a few fundamental flaws and novice mistakes.  Now that I've gotten my hands thoroughly dirty, it's time to fix her up.

(http://i1265.photobucket.com/albums/jj513/Ian_Crash_Tarr/DSC_1207_zps1a3441b5.jpg) (http://s1265.photobucket.com/user/Ian_Crash_Tarr/media/DSC_1207_zps1a3441b5.jpg.html)

A quick glamor shot.  Notice...
-Sloppy/ splotchy damage masking
-Inconsistent damage (the helmet's massive "hit" was caused by painting mistakes that I rolled with.  Meh, it looks cool.)
-Modern nylon pouches.  They weren't bad, just... "meh"
-Marine vinyl vest.  Seriously, this thing is like a sauna during the summer.

Not the only issues.  If anything, I can disguise problems...
-The plates are lined up crooked.  It's hard to tell in most photos and is mostly disguised by the sleeveless trench coat.
-Vest was a rough-cut job.  It fits fantastically due to design (I'll share templates and give a look under the hood), but was poorly sewn and has a couple of issues (extra flaps over the shoulders in lieu of sewing and zippers that'd work much better, adhesive residue from sticky velcro related to said flaps, holes from the first attempt at mounting that turned out horribly).
-Shoulder bell flaps have a tendency to Gundam out.  Not necessarily a bad thing, but looks a bit off with the sleeveless/ short sleeve thing.
-The plate's shapes are slightly off, and the gaps are a little on the small side.

Here's a look at the current state of it...

(http://i1265.photobucket.com/albums/jj513/Ian_Crash_Tarr/photo4_zps76473cd2.jpg) (http://s1265.photobucket.com/user/Ian_Crash_Tarr/media/photo4_zps76473cd2.jpg.html)

It's held up well these two years (aside from the collar plate cracking in half- you can see the point where I fabricated a metal bracket for the front and back and secured with rivets.  I like the look, and will probably replicate it for the MK II).

So, for the "what's new," or the parts we're rebuilding...

(http://i1265.photobucket.com/albums/jj513/Ian_Crash_Tarr/Image070420142051381_zpsb2f3b6e8.jpg) (http://s1265.photobucket.com/user/Ian_Crash_Tarr/media/Image070420142051381_zpsb2f3b6e8.jpg.html)
New templates.  Smaller than the originals, but hopefully large enough.  I'm not looking for giant gaps, mind you, just "rule of thumb."  The collar plate is a little longer than normal and will probably be trimmed down slightly.  At the end of the day, I want an overlap with the back plate (Will start working on it as the project progresses).

Here's a quick line-up on Cin's Kraam Vest (will most likely contact him for another; the man does good work).
(http://i1265.photobucket.com/albums/jj513/Ian_Crash_Tarr/photo2_zpsf31bb345.jpg) (http://s1265.photobucket.com/user/Ian_Crash_Tarr/media/photo2_zpsf31bb345.jpg.html)

It looks a little on the large side in the pics, but the local ruus'alor had misgivings, saying they might be too small.  As I said, they're slightly smaller that the MK I plates.  The chest plates are thinner across, certainly.  Any other trained eyes wanna comment?

Edit:  The plates need to be shifted around a bit to ensure proper spacing, I see now.  The gap between the chest and ab plates is a little large.

New knees will need to be fabricated.  The old ones were cannibalized for parts during Cin's build.  It happens.  The next go around will be constructed more along the lines of the Boba/ Jango standard, instead of the chopped custom knees.

Last but not least, MK I was a sintra job (modified Schubi-won; never again).  This time around, well, it seems I got ahold of a slightly damaged hood from a Toyota Echo (it has a kind of poetry to it, if you think about it).  I have my work cut out for me (heheh) prepping it, but in the end, steel is really the only way for me to go.

To recap, we're going to build/ acquire/ fix up:
-New plates
-New vest
-New leather pouch belt
-New knees
-Strip and repaint the bucket
-Modify the trench coat/ Switch it out for a Kama
-A couple of new greeblies (pilot-style leg flares, comms equipment, bino's)
-A decent combat knife for either chest or leg mounting

And, at the end of the rebuild, I may end up casting my lot in with the Brigades as a Recon kit.  Just a maybe. :D

There's really no established timeframe for the completion of this rebuild.  Only real caveat- It will be ready for CVII.

Oya, vod.  Let's get building.
Title: Re: Echo Darklighter MK II. Rebuild time!
Post by: Jaing Vau on Jul 05, 2014, 11:45 PM
Awesome! Another build by the infamous Echo Darklighter! Im definitely bookmarking this ner vod. You do awesome work, and know CRL's off my heart. It will be interesting to see what you come up with.

Chest plates look a little wide to me. May want to take 1/4 inch off. Should fit perfect then  8)
Title: Re: Echo Darklighter MK II. Rebuild time!
Post by: Cin Vhe'rang on Jul 05, 2014, 11:53 PM
Awesome! Another build by the infamous Echo Darklighter! Im definitely bookmarking this ner vod. You do awesome work, and know CRL's off my heart. It will be interesting to see what you come up with.

Chest plates look a little wide to me. May want to take 1/4 inch off. Should fit perfect then  8)
Oh god, I'm infamous now?  Lol...

I'll try tweaking the sizing a bit.  It's been a while since I saddled up Modern plates.  :P
Title: Re: Echo Darklighter MK II. Rebuild time!
Post by: Carid Vhett on Jul 05, 2014, 11:59 PM
Yep, your infamous.
And yeah, bout a 1/4 inch off the outside of the chest plates, everything else looks fine.
Title: Re: Echo Darklighter MK II. Rebuild time!
Post by: Jaing Vau on Jul 06, 2014, 12:24 AM
Ive been thinking about trying my hand at a Legacy style kit. Thought it would be best to finish up my modern first though.  :laugh:

Do you have a paint scheme planned or are you just going for an updated version of the old Echo?
Title: Re: Echo Darklighter MK II. Rebuild time!
Post by: Cin Vhe'rang on Jul 06, 2014, 12:33 AM
Yep, your infamous.
I'll take it as a compliment. :P

Quote
And yeah, bout a 1/4 inch off the outside of the chest plates, everything else looks fine.
Truth be told, I may cleave a bit from the inside.  It'd allow me to put a harder edge on the inside curve to line up more cleanly with the ab plate.  Corners and hard edges are substantially easier to work in steel than soft curves.  It can be done, but why bother, especially when a jagged kit looks meaner?

Ive been thinking about trying my hand at a Legacy style kit. Thought it would be best to finish up my modern first though.  :laugh:

Do you have a paint scheme planned or are you just going for an updated version of the old Echo?
Hey, to-may-to, to-mah-to.  It's really up to your personal tastes.  One of my vode from the old clan went with a Legacy kit from the get go, and it looked fantastic.  He was half the reason I threw Cin together, actually...

Ol' Echo Standard- black plates, silver left chest.  Going to add details, improved weathering, some undercoat-peeking-through effects, maybe some detailing in burgundy.  Basically, what you see there, but better.  Definitely keeping the hasty patch on the collar plate, though.  That was all too happy an accident born of a lazy fix. :D
Title: Re: Echo Darklighter MK II. Rebuild time!
Post by: Jaing Vau on Jul 06, 2014, 01:37 PM
Better is.. Well better! I want to see what you'll do with it to mix it up a bit from old Echo.

Are you still going with the same bucket or are you getting a new helmet? I like the buzzerker look for your kit  :D
Title: Re: Echo Darklighter MK II. Rebuild time!
Post by: Cin Vhe'rang on Jul 10, 2014, 09:39 PM
No pics just yet, but finally begun doing test cuts into the metal.  It's a little thinner than I'd normally use, but implementing edge-folding techniques learned with Cin should yield decent results.  Pics to come, when I decide to actually work during the daylight... :P
Title: Re: Echo Darklighter MK II. Rebuild time!
Post by: Mavik on Jul 11, 2014, 12:34 PM
Well you said with your old kit that there should have been a bit more spacing for the plates, so if the templates are slightly smaller than your old plates I would stick with them. You can always trim the plates down a bit after you form them. After all its way easier to trim the armor down then add to it.
Title: Re: Echo Darklighter MK II. Rebuild time!
Post by: Cin Vhe'rang on Jul 11, 2014, 07:06 PM
Well you said with your old kit that there should have been a bit more spacing for the plates, so if the templates are slightly smaller than your old plates I would stick with them. You can always trim the plates down a bit after you form them. After all its way easier to trim the armor down then add to it.
S'what I thought, myself.  I'll be curling the plate edges to add the illusion of thickness.  Thin metal is great to work, but really doesn't look like much of anything unless you put in the extra effort.

Small update!  Began prepping the hood today by stripping off the paint.  Angle grinder and flap disk powers, activate!

(http://i1265.photobucket.com/albums/jj513/Ian_Crash_Tarr/Image071120141853221_zpsc6174e96.jpg) (http://s1265.photobucket.com/user/Ian_Crash_Tarr/media/Image071120141853221_zpsc6174e96.jpg.html)

In case you were wondering, car paint is some nasty osik, and thicker than sin.  The striations left by the flap disk will be removed before painting with a decent sanding.  Hard work work, vode.
Title: Re: Echo Darklighter MK II. Rebuild time!
Post by: Jaing Vau on Jul 11, 2014, 09:28 PM
This is awesome! Also considering you live in an apartment building. Impressive.. Most impressive
Title: Re: Echo Darklighter MK II. Rebuild time!
Post by: Cin Vhe'rang on Jul 11, 2014, 10:33 PM
This is awesome! Also considering you live in an apartment building. Impressive.. Most impressive
Tenacity was always one of my best qualities.  Consideration for others needs work, though, based on the angry hipster who asked me to stop using an angle grinder at 9 pm on a Thursday night.  Some people just have no sense of humor...
Title: Re: Echo Darklighter MK II. Rebuild time!
Post by: Carid Vhett on Jul 12, 2014, 01:03 AM
Shows he has no sense when it comes to true art. Shame really.

Nice start so far.
Title: Re: Echo Darklighter MK II. Rebuild time!
Post by: Straka Zulu on Jul 12, 2014, 10:22 AM
That hipster can stick it, noise ordinances usually say to stop by 11pm. ;D

Nice progress, so far.  Thought about using the hood to my van, nicknamed the Falcon. When she runs, she's the fastest thing in the galaxy, when she doesn't, it's a pain in the shebs to figure it out. :P :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Echo Darklighter MK II. Rebuild time!
Post by: Dresdon Acacin on Jul 12, 2014, 10:27 AM
Tenacity was always one of my best qualities.  Consideration for others needs work, though, based on the angry hipster who asked me to stop using an angle grinder at 9 pm on a Thursday night.  Some people just have no sense of humor...

what a noob, stuff like that happens to me too sometimes-you shoulda started using a hammer drill instead >:)
Title: Re: Echo Darklighter MK II. Rebuild time!
Post by: Cin Vhe'rang on Jul 13, 2014, 11:11 AM
what a noob, stuff like that happens to me too sometimes-you shoulda started using a hammer drill instead >:)
Would if I had one, but I'm pretty sure they'd eschew the neighborly visit and go straight to calling the cops if I did.
Title: Re: Echo Darklighter MK II. Rebuild time!
Post by: Carid Vhett on Jul 13, 2014, 11:14 AM
Would if I had one, but I'm pretty sure they'd eschew the neighborly visit and go straight to calling the cops if I did.

I had this happen once at an armour party. Not the vops the old lady shouting at me to stop with the power tools at 10am. The guy hosting it just said she has been a problem before and continue on if she called the cops so what. If you are operating within the law what can they do.

Made any progress?
Title: Re: Echo Darklighter MK II. Rebuild time!
Post by: Dresdon Acacin on Jul 13, 2014, 01:18 PM
Hy vod how willyou be mounting your plates?
Countersunk bolts tack'd on underneath?   
Title: Re: Echo Darklighter MK II. Rebuild time!
Post by: Cin Vhe'rang on Jul 13, 2014, 01:29 PM
Hy vod how willyou be mounting your plates?
Countersunk bolts tack'd on underneath?   
Bolts or Chicago screws through the plates, into the vest.  I like the "riveted" look.

Edit: Quick mid-process update.  The main chest plates have been cut out (sans the diamond), and I'm in the middle of tab-curling (reinforces edges, makes the plates look substantially thicker). 


(http://i1265.photobucket.com/albums/jj513/Ian_Crash_Tarr/Image071320142117311_zps870c2d44.jpg) (http://s1265.photobucket.com/user/Ian_Crash_Tarr/media/Image071320142117311_zps870c2d44.jpg.html)

No work bench this time, no industrial vise, no plasma cutter, no air compressor, no drill press...  No weld shop this time.  Just a ball-peen hammer, a cheap vise, a few small other hand tools, and a carpet floor/ concrete patio.  We're playing Metal Armor: The Home Game this time! :D
Title: Re: Echo Darklighter MK II. Rebuild time!
Post by: Dresdon Acacin on Jul 13, 2014, 10:12 PM
LOL Welcome to Dresdon's workshop '10 xD

its all the more impressive when you make amazing things with minimal tools and equiptment 8)
Title: Re: Echo Darklighter MK II. Rebuild time!
Post by: Cin Vhe'rang on Jul 13, 2014, 10:51 PM
LOL Welcome to Dresdon's workshop '10 xD

its all the more impressive when you make amazing things with minimal tools and equiptment 8)
Thanks, vod. :D

Still, I'd kill for a decent work table about now... :P
Title: Re: Echo Darklighter MK II. Rebuild time!
Post by: Straka Zulu on Jul 14, 2014, 12:37 AM
Use the kill AS the work table.  :P
Title: Re: Echo Darklighter MK II. Rebuild time!
Post by: Dresdon Acacin on Jul 14, 2014, 12:58 AM
A dozen 8' pressure treated 4x4s and 12 feet of stainless steel 3/4" threaded rod, you can fabricate your own brackets for it and DAYUM strong of a workbench to even stick a 90# anvil on  :)
Title: Re: Echo Darklighter MK II. Rebuild time!
Post by: Cin Vhe'rang on Jul 20, 2014, 10:47 PM
A dozen 8' pressure treated 4x4s and 12 feet of stainless steel 3/4" threaded rod, you can fabricate your own brackets for it and DAYUM strong of a workbench to even stick a 90# anvil on  :)
Funny story, I've been doing the shaping on the carpeted floor of my apartment, and due to the soft impact surface, I've managed to all but eliminate hammer marks, while still effectively shaping the armor.  Who knew? :P  Give it a shot, vod, see what you think of the results.  Take some relatively thick carpeting and attach it to a wood or concrete base.  You might be happy you did.  Sure, you have to give it a little more gusto in certain places, but it's as clean and smooth as anything done out of sintra.

Updates are limited.  I've been busy with work.  I managed to cut out and shape one of the shoulder bells, sand the left chest plate clean, as well as cut the holes for future electronics (meh, like that'll happen anytime soon), and prep further surface on the car hood for the second bell.  Progress is slow, but still happening.
Title: Re: Echo Darklighter MK II. Rebuild time!
Post by: Dresdon Acacin on Jul 21, 2014, 10:01 AM
Ill have to give it a shot on  wood stump for Sauron when I start that
Title: Re: Echo Darklighter MK II. Rebuild time!
Post by: Lilura Amas on Jul 21, 2014, 11:58 AM
Thanks, vod. :D

Still, I'd kill for a decent work table about now... :P

You know all you have to do is shoot Kaden a text and Im sure you could come share the garage
Title: Re: Echo Darklighter MK II. Rebuild time!
Post by: Cin Vhe'rang on Jul 21, 2014, 10:09 PM
You know all you have to do is shoot Kaden a text and Im sure you could come share the garage
I may take you up on that.

Info update: Echo's Juggernaut has now been sold to a new Merc in Salt Lake City.  Time to find a new one.  The decision thus far has come down to three makers: NME Props, Asok, and Dresdon Acacin.  I adore some of NME's designs, I've heard nothing but high praise about Asok cold-cast buckets (now produced by his wife, as I understand), and Dresdon, well... if there's any Merc I'd trust with a one-off metal helmet, it would be him.

So, what do you guys think?  Opinions on makers?  Who should I choose?
Title: Re: Echo Darklighter MK II. Rebuild time!
Post by: Thoranios Xast'or on Jul 22, 2014, 12:56 AM
I may take you up on that.

Info update: Echo's Juggernaut has now been sold to a new Merc in Salt Lake City.  Time to find a new one.  The decision thus far has come down to three makers: NME Props, Asok, and Dresdon Acacin.  I adore some of NME's designs, I've heard nothing but high praise about Asok cold-cast buckets (now produced by his wife, as I understand), and Dresdon, well... if there's any Merc I'd trust with a one-off metal helmet, it would be him.

So, what do you guys think?  Opinions on makers?  Who should I choose?

All of the Asok's I have seen look really clean right out of the mold, and they're thick enough to not have to worry about damage or breakage.
Title: Re: Echo Darklighter MK II. Rebuild time!
Post by: Carid Vhett on Jul 22, 2014, 06:59 AM
I say go for an Asok but get a Dresdon battlemask or something.
Title: Re: Echo Darklighter MK II. Rebuild time!
Post by: Cin Vhe'rang on Jul 27, 2014, 08:24 PM
I say go for an Asok but get a Dresdon battlemask or something.
Were I going with a heavier build, that might be the way to go.  However, I'm gearing this toward Recon (gasp!  A BRIGADE kit?!), so the heavy look just wouldn't work...

Update!  Still chugging away on the plates.  Got most everything trimmed out, aside from the knees, back plate, and chest diamond (gaunts are being recycled from the Mk I).

(http://i1265.photobucket.com/albums/jj513/Ian_Crash_Tarr/Image072720142009301_zpsa486e4f5.jpg) (http://s1265.photobucket.com/user/Ian_Crash_Tarr/media/Image072720142009301_zpsa486e4f5.jpg.html)

Shaping is more or less done for the time being.  They'll be tweaked further when I get the vest so I can properly mount the plates and see how they sit, but fornow, they're good to sit on.  Cod plate will be bolted together sometime soon-ish.  I won't lie, I'm dragging my feet here due to lack of materials and funds...

But, what's that next to the armor...?

(http://i1265.photobucket.com/albums/jj513/Ian_Crash_Tarr/Image072720141957581_zpsca85ff2b.jpg) (http://s1265.photobucket.com/user/Ian_Crash_Tarr/media/Image072720141957581_zpsca85ff2b.jpg.html)

That looks like the beginning of a Kal, or beskad dagger.  Which it is.  :P

(http://i1265.photobucket.com/albums/jj513/Ian_Crash_Tarr/Image072720141958201_zps12a9896f.jpg) (http://s1265.photobucket.com/user/Ian_Crash_Tarr/media/Image072720141958201_zps12a9896f.jpg.html)

Sizing fits nicely, as it was cut with relatively similar dimensions to a Ka-Bar fighting knife, while roughly keeping the proportions of the weapon seen in The Bounty Hunter Code.

(http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140131063932/starwars/images/b/b0/Kal_Dagger.jpg)

Tragically, my fine-working tools are non-existent, so it's not quite as pretty as its inspiration.  I'll be putting more work into it, naturally...
Title: Re: Echo Darklighter MK II. Rebuild time!
Post by: Carid Vhett on Jul 27, 2014, 08:35 PM
I thought it was a chest diamond, you were just going to fold it over. Knife works OK though.
Title: Re: Echo Darklighter MK II. Rebuild time!
Post by: Kaden Amas on Jul 27, 2014, 09:19 PM
Were I going with a heavier build, that might be the way to go.  However, I'm gearing this toward Recon (gasp!  A BRIGADE kit?!), so the heavy look just wouldn't work...

Update!  Still chugging away on the plates.  Got most everything trimmed out, aside from the knees, back plate, and chest diamond (gaunts are being recycled from the Mk I).

(http://i1265.photobucket.com/albums/jj513/Ian_Crash_Tarr/Image072720142009301_zpsa486e4f5.jpg) (http://s1265.photobucket.com/user/Ian_Crash_Tarr/media/Image072720142009301_zpsa486e4f5.jpg.html)

Shaping is more or less done for the time being.  They'll be tweaked further when I get the vest so I can properly mount the plates and see how they sit, but fornow, they're good to sit on.  Cod plate will be bolted together sometime soon-ish.  I won't lie, I'm dragging my feet here due to lack of materials and funds...

But, what's that next to the armor...?

(http://i1265.photobucket.com/albums/jj513/Ian_Crash_Tarr/Image072720141957581_zpsca85ff2b.jpg) (http://s1265.photobucket.com/user/Ian_Crash_Tarr/media/Image072720141957581_zpsca85ff2b.jpg.html)

That looks like the beginning of a Kal, or beskad dagger.  Which it is.  :P

(http://i1265.photobucket.com/albums/jj513/Ian_Crash_Tarr/Image072720141958201_zps12a9896f.jpg) (http://s1265.photobucket.com/user/Ian_Crash_Tarr/media/Image072720141958201_zps12a9896f.jpg.html)

Sizing fits nicely, as it was cut with relatively similar dimensions to a Ka-Bar fighting knife, while roughly keeping the proportions of the weapon seen in The Bounty Hunter Code.

(http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140131063932/starwars/images/b/b0/Kal_Dagger.jpg)

Tragically, my fine-working tools are non-existent, so it's not quite as pretty as its inspiration.  I'll be putting more work into it, naturally...

I was looking at making a Kal set for my daggers for force hunter. Going to brigade??? What happen to "I am not going to both with them"? Any way its good to see going above and beyond. Firestorm has a few of us working on brigades now, it's pretty cool.
Title: Re: Echo Darklighter MK II. Rebuild time!
Post by: Cin Vhe'rang on Jul 27, 2014, 09:49 PM
I thought it was a chest diamond, you were just going to fold it over. Knife works OK though.
I have had some crazy ideas in my time, but folding 3/8" aluminum is not something I'm crazy/ stupid enough to try. :P

I was looking at making a Kal set for my daggers for force hunter. Going to brigade??? What happen to "I am not going to both with them"?
Shaddup, fool. :laugh:

At this point, it's only a thought, but one I'm building with at the back of my mind.

Speaking of which, a question for the App Team...

(http://ww2.hdnux.com/photos/10/46/56/2255777/7/628x471.jpg)

With a bit of modding, could one of these old Commtech readers be used as a comms device?  I mean, they're based on Qui-gon's comlink in Episode I, just oversized.  Could just sell it as a beefier version of it (as it averages a quarter of the price used on eBay than the base for the original prop- trying to be frugal, here).
Title: Re: Echo Darklighter MK II. Rebuild time!
Post by: Straka Zulu on Jul 27, 2014, 10:15 PM
If it IS troopable, I still have mine. Maybe add in a little greeb to be a holo emitter.
Title: Re: Echo Darklighter MK II. Rebuild time!
Post by: Jorad Werde on Jul 27, 2014, 10:18 PM
Be Carful with the Kal.  I had a friend told he couldn't carry a prop knife with him into a con because it was metal (it was a theatrical prop so it had dulled edges and a rounded point).  He had to leave it at the weapons check and get it at the end of the day. 
Title: Re: Echo Darklighter MK II. Rebuild time!
Post by: Dresdon Acacin on Jul 27, 2014, 10:44 PM
Yeeeea metal blades are misunderstoood....when people hear 'metal blade' they  either think of MetalBladeRecords that publish Slayer and AmonAmarth songs, OR they think of a deadly weapon (usually the latter over the prior) :/

Soooo Id say do like I did for Vix' gauntlet vibroblade, make the edge go only halfway, once it reaches the center just make it round, if people start osik about it just tell them its supposed to be a tool like Boba's  shin pocket tools(actually that might be a good idea, keep it close to some 'tool's on your belt and you can pass that off fairly easily(Im  sure we can come up with survival tools a mando would carry)
Title: Re: Echo Darklighter MK II. Rebuild time!
Post by: Cin Vhe'rang on Jul 27, 2014, 10:57 PM
Yeeeea metal blades are misunderstoood....when people hear 'metal blade' they  either think of MetalBladeRecords that publish Slayer and AmonAmarth songs, OR they think of a deadly weapon (usually the latter over the prior) :/

Soooo Id say do like I did for Vix' gauntlet vibroblade, make the edge go only halfway, once it reaches the center just make it round, if people start osik about it just tell them its supposed to be a tool like Boba's  shin pocket tools(actually that might be a good idea, keep it close to some 'tool's on your belt and you can pass that off fairly easily(Im  sure we can come up with survival tools a mando would carry)
I've gotten pretty far telling con staff to suck it when it comes to my weapons.  Hasn't backfired yet, and my Verpines are notoriously big and heavy (blah blah, could cause physical harm, blah blah).  Hand-waving and half-hearted excuses are the way to go.  That, and I'll integrate some way to zip-tie it to whatever sheath I'll have made for it.  Make everybody happy, healthy, and less paranoid that the broad-shouldered, angry veteran covered in tattoos and encased in solid steel plates doesn't have the ability to pull out a shaped, dull aluminum bar, 'cause it might harm someone (as opposed to the rest of me).  Priorities are a thing, you know.

And a knife is a tool, like a can opener for people! :D
Title: Re: Echo Darklighter MK II. Rebuild time!
Post by: Dresdon Acacin on Jul 27, 2014, 11:53 PM
sometimes its a lost cause argueing with people about that stuff though-all they hear is metal and they start :l
Title: Re: Echo Darklighter MK II. Rebuild time!
Post by: Cin Vhe'rang on Jul 28, 2014, 12:10 AM
sometimes its a lost cause argueing with people about that stuff though-all they hear is metal and they start :l
I specify aluminum.  They think soda cans and aluminum foil, innocuous and thin things.  "Is it metal?" "No, it's aluminum."  Give it a shot. :D
Title: Re: Echo Darklighter MK II. Rebuild time!
Post by: Dresdon Acacin on Jul 28, 2014, 02:15 AM
ok Ill say "Its just aluminum"
Title: Re: Echo Darklighter MK II. Rebuild time!
Post by: Jorad Werde on Jul 28, 2014, 07:08 AM
I specify aluminum.  They think soda cans and aluminum foil, innocuous and thin things.  "Is it metal?" "No, it's aluminum."  Give it a shot. :D

I both respect this tactic and weep for the level of education that allows you to get away with it.
Title: Re: Echo Darklighter MK II. Rebuild time!
Post by: Cin Vhe'rang on Jul 28, 2014, 09:53 AM
I both respect this tactic and weep for the level of education that allows you to get away with it.
Don't fault me for throwing around my superior intellect to get petty functionaries off of my back. :D
Title: Re: Echo Darklighter MK II. Rebuild time!
Post by: Kaden Amas on Jul 28, 2014, 09:57 AM
Don't fault me for throwing around my superior intellect to get petty functionaries off of my back. :D

I couldnt even read that with a straight face. Have you found a new bucket yet?
Title: Re: Echo Darklighter MK II. Rebuild time!
Post by: Zekk Voss on Jul 28, 2014, 10:50 AM
Are you going to try to make parts of your gun metal?  I know you said you didn't have precision tools, but that would kick shebs.

Knowing that con security is really that silly makes me worry about how they may treat your gear when they confiscate it...
Title: Re: Echo Darklighter MK II. Rebuild time!
Post by: Jaing Vau on Jul 28, 2014, 10:59 AM
My underslung cannon is all metal. Its all about finding the right base and attachment method for barrels and greebs, etc  8)

Cin's a smart guy, I'm sure he can come up with something cool ;)
Title: Re: Echo Darklighter MK II. Rebuild time!
Post by: Cin Vhe'rang on Jul 28, 2014, 11:10 AM
I couldnt even read that with a straight face. Have you found a new bucket yet?
Asok Cold Cast Boba.  I'll have to fill in the dent, but I've heard wonderful things about their lids.

Are you going to try to make parts of your gun metal?  I know you said you didn't have precision tools, but that would kick shebs.

Knowing that con security is really that silly makes me worry about how they may treat your gear when they confiscate it...
I have a "cold dead hands" policy with my gear.  No one touches it without my permission.  I'd sooner store my pieces in my car than let one of those scrubs put their dirty mitts on them.

As for the blaster, I have some ideas for the future (when I get a better, higher-paying job), but for now I'm sticking with the trusty ol' Echo Special- my Hasbro EE-3 mod.  That, and my Sharpshooter rifle built off an MP5 frame will do for now.

My underslung cannon is all metal. Its all about finding the right base and attachment method for barrels and greebs, etc  8)

Cin's a smart guy, I'm sure he can come up with something cool ;)
When was I ever one to let you guys down? ;)
Title: Re: Echo Darklighter MK II. Rebuild time!
Post by: Zekk Voss on Jul 28, 2014, 11:19 AM
I have a "cold dead hands" policy with my gear.  No one touches it without my permission.  I'd sooner store my pieces in my car than let one of those scrubs put their dirty mitts on them.

As for the blaster, I have some ideas for the future (when I get a better, higher-paying job), but for now I'm sticking with the trusty ol' Echo Special- my Hasbro EE-3 mod.  That, and my Sharpshooter rifle built off an MP5 frame will do for now.
When was I ever one to let you guys down? ;)

I'll probably treat my gear the same way.  I've heard about what the TSA has done with people's gear, and I definitely don't want it replicated on mine. 
I'm hopping between places personally when it comes to my weapon selection, although I do know for a fact that I've got to get a DP-28 LMG as a base for my rifle.  There is a shop nearby that makes rubber replicas that are very accurate, but I haven't got a quote from them yet.  How does that MP5 look?  I've got one myself, although I actually still use it for airsoft so it isn't likely that I'll be slapping greeblies on it any time soon.
Title: Re: Echo Darklighter MK II. Rebuild time!
Post by: Dresdon Acacin on Jul 28, 2014, 09:51 PM
Yes we don't like to put our toys up for the  public to play with for good reason lol-time invested hurts more than money invested
Title: Re: Echo Darklighter MK II. Rebuild time!
Post by: Cin Vhe'rang on Aug 01, 2014, 10:39 PM
Yes we don't like to put our toys up for the  public to play with for good reason lol-time invested hurts more than money invested
Best believe it.  :P

In other news, started work on the back plate.  God, I hate back plates...
Title: Re: Echo Darklighter MK II. Rebuild time!
Post by: Dresdon Acacin on Aug 02, 2014, 12:55 AM
Ikr....you gota hammer it out, then you gota make sure both sides are the same, then you gota planish it and recheck its the same,  then you gota surface it, then you gota check both sides are the same
Title: Re: Echo Darklighter MK II. Rebuild time!
Post by: Cin Vhe'rang on Aug 14, 2014, 08:48 PM
Partial/ anemic update- The Purchasing has finally gotten under way.  Picked up heavyweight duck cloth for the vest (gonna make it myself this time; if my ex-wife could do it, I definitely can), ordered a snow poncho to modify into a cowl-neck cloak/ poncho, picked up a set of pouches...  Yup, The Purchasing.

Still waiting on my helmet, though.  Relying on other people for any real part of this build feels insanely dry...
Title: Re: Echo Darklighter MK II. Rebuild time!
Post by: Carid Vhett on Aug 15, 2014, 03:53 AM
Sorry vod. Working on it.
Title: Re: Echo Darklighter MK II. Rebuild time!
Post by: Cin Vhe'rang on Sep 18, 2014, 04:08 PM
Arise, dead thread, arise!

I took a bit of a furlough for various reason (like I said, was waiting on some stuff, then was busy, etc, etc...), and now we're getting back on track.  Kinda.  Well, at least you're getting an update.

My vest came in from K'raam, and has been taken from the usual "room to move" to the "skin-tight" fit I prefer just today.  With the vest in and where I like it, I grabbed the chest plates and a bit of tape to do a proper test fit...

(http://i1265.photobucket.com/albums/jj513/Ian_Crash_Tarr/Image091820141506141_zpsbe5f58ca.jpg) (http://s1265.photobucket.com/user/Ian_Crash_Tarr/media/Image091820141506141_zpsbe5f58ca.jpg.html)

Originally, I was under the impression the plates were a little on the small side, but seeing this, well, I think they'll work just fine.  Now, I need to dial in the last bits for a proper form-fit (built a duct tape mannequin with my...  errm, "costume buddy" that needs to be redone with a t-shirt for increased initial stability), paint and prep and weather, and get the suckers mounted.  My helmet should be in within the next two weeks, so yeah...  Progress is slow, admittedly, but it's moving.

Any second opinions?  Am i good to proceed, or are there sizing misgivings?
Title: Re: Echo Darklighter MK II. Rebuild time!
Post by: Thoranios Xast'or on Sep 18, 2014, 04:11 PM
Sizing looks about spot-on. I assume you know what you're doing by now. :P
Title: Re: Echo Darklighter MK II. Rebuild time!
Post by: Carid Vhett on Sep 18, 2014, 04:13 PM
Go, go, go.

Looks good.
Title: Re: Echo Darklighter MK II. Rebuild time!
Post by: Cin Vhe'rang on Sep 18, 2014, 07:34 PM
Sizing looks about spot-on. I assume you know what you're doing by now. :P
A dangerous assumption. I've been playing around with Legacy so long, I lost the feel for Modern. :P
Title: Re: Echo Darklighter MK II. Rebuild time!
Post by: Thoranios Xast'or on Sep 18, 2014, 09:00 PM
A dangerous assumption. I've been playing around with Legacy so long, I lost the feel for Modern. :P

Sounds like this IS a great time to revamp your Modern build then! :P
Title: Re: Echo Darklighter MK II. Rebuild time!
Post by: Korran Orainn on Sep 19, 2014, 11:52 AM
Looks spot on to me! Gorgeous! Inspiring! :D

...I also like the plates.

Seriously though, it looks solid. Really liking the vest! :)
Title: Re: Echo Darklighter MK II. Rebuild time!
Post by: Niabi on Sep 30, 2014, 01:11 PM
Nice bud ;)

Only one thing  :rolleyes:

(your) Right Chest plate Bottom Tooth looks like its bent a bit too far in.
Title: Re: Echo Darklighter MK II. Rebuild time!
Post by: Cin Vhe'rang on Sep 30, 2014, 10:13 PM
Nice bud ;)

Only one thing  :rolleyes:

(your) Right Chest plate Bottom Tooth looks like its bent a bit too far in.
Huh, you might be right.  I'll knock it back out during the mounting process.  Progress on my kit has been sporadic at best lately...
Title: Re: Echo Darklighter MK II. Rebuild time!
Post by: Jaing Vau on Oct 01, 2014, 05:48 AM
Those chest plates are looking awesome! You really hit the nail on the head with the shaping and chest slots.  8)
Title: Re: Echo Darklighter MK II. Rebuild time!
Post by: Cin Vhe'rang on Oct 10, 2014, 10:42 PM
Now for my semi-weekly update, my Asok Cold Cast bucket came in, and boy, is she a beauty.

(http://i1265.photobucket.com/albums/jj513/Ian_Crash_Tarr/Image100620141408531_zps2fa9d942.jpg) (http://s1265.photobucket.com/user/Ian_Crash_Tarr/media/Image100620141408531_zps2fa9d942.jpg.html)
Here's the full kit- helmet, range finder pieces, and all.  So, naturally, we got to work on the finish, using a severely worn-out 180 grit sandpaper sponge, then a bit of 0000 steel wool, along with careful Dremelling of slight imperfections and the visor itself.  My apartment now has a corner of cutting bits, abrasives, and unattached parts that is steadily growing.


After testing the finish, we moved on to the dent.  With bondo.  Ohhh, Bondo, ours is a relationship of love, and of hate.
(http://i1265.photobucket.com/albums/jj513/Ian_Crash_Tarr/Image100820141530411_zps32b778a9.jpg) (http://s1265.photobucket.com/user/Ian_Crash_Tarr/media/Image100820141530411_zps32b778a9.jpg.html)
A quick how-to for you Shinies concerning that lovely dent- don't buy a Boba helmet unless you're willing to be meticulous about getting it right (the little details, I love, so I didn't mind in the least).  Scour the inside of the dent with coarse sandpaper (I used 50 grit), fill it with bondo, sand it flush, unify the finish with the surrounding area with fine-grit abrasive, repeat until it's fully filled and fully smooth(I had to do two applications of Bondo to get it to where I was happy with it).

And voila!  Here we stand.
(http://i1265.photobucket.com/albums/jj513/Ian_Crash_Tarr/Image101020142131431_zpsd7e47f04.jpg) (http://s1265.photobucket.com/user/Ian_Crash_Tarr/media/Image101020142131431_zpsd7e47f04.jpg.html)
She's pretty much as smooth as she'll ever be, and ready to take paint.  The only real hold-up is on finishing the range finder and stalk cover for the helmet.  I'll be mounting it with a removable bolt, and securing the cap with rare-earth magnets (having the range finder stalk removable can be greatly beneficial, especially if you like to travel with your kit).  Helmet work is a labor of love, whether you're using a cast or scratch-building your own.

Back to the plates! I've attached snaps onto the plates using E6000 (gave it a nice roughing-up with the 50 grit again- I want a solid attachment) with enough room along the edges to attach a thin strip of velcro, in the event of having to compensate for and reduce floating, if necessary (I leave my options open.  Mistakes will not be made. :P )  No photos for right now.  They would be boring.

Next up, more helmet work!  Also, I might need to cut a chest diamond at some point...  I keep forgetting about it. :laugh:
Title: Re: Echo Darklighter MK II. Rebuild time!
Post by: Dresdon Acacin on Oct 11, 2014, 10:09 AM
Good job on the shining, would you say wetsanding or dry sanding gives nicer resaults ?
Title: Re: Echo Darklighter MK II. Rebuild time!
Post by: Cin Vhe'rang on Oct 11, 2014, 07:53 PM
Good job on the shining, would you say wetsanding or dry sanding gives nicer resaults ?
I sanded dry, and the results were fine.  Wet sanding seems like it'd just add more complications.  If I do another kit, I'll give wet sanding a go.
Title: Re: Echo Darklighter MK II. Rebuild time!
Post by: Dresdon Acacin on Oct 11, 2014, 08:48 PM
I figured it might give smoother and shinier results like using polishing compound on a buffing wheel
Title: Re: Echo Darklighter MK II. Rebuild time!
Post by: Cin Vhe'rang on Oct 11, 2014, 09:33 PM
I figured it might give smoother and shinier results like using polishing compound on a buffing wheel
Good point, but too smooth, and the paint might not take properly.  I only wanted something close to a mill-scale/ scuffed appearance, not chromed or race-day shine.  No sense in looking that pretty. :laugh:
Title: Re: Echo Darklighter MK II. Rebuild time!
Post by: Cin Vhe'rang on Oct 26, 2014, 09:03 PM
....And pretty, she certainly isn't.
(http://i1265.photobucket.com/albums/jj513/Ian_Crash_Tarr/Image102620142043201_zps3e255d5b.jpg) (http://s1265.photobucket.com/user/Ian_Crash_Tarr/media/Image102620142043201_zps3e255d5b.jpg.html)

Small update- I've been a busy little bug on the helmet over the past week.  Painting is completed, along with some scuffs and a healthy black dusting (I used a new technique- tamping on a dark gray pastel paint my Main Hunt suggested with a brush, then wiping it off), making it all sorts of dirty.  The pics don't do the grime justice; I'll have to wait until daylight to take better pics.  The visor will be installed soon (reflective cover, in the interest of visibility and looking cool), and we'll be nearly done...

Aside from the key slots.  Honestly, I have no idea how to mount the included piece, not to mention the fact that, when installed, it will almost certainly make donning the helmet a painful task.  Room's tight in there.

Anybody got a solution?  What should I put in there to visibly block off the keyhole?  I need recommendations and ideas.
Title: Re: Echo Darklighter MK II. Rebuild time!
Post by: Straka Zulu on Oct 26, 2014, 09:07 PM
....And pretty, she certainly isn't.
(http://i1265.photobucket.com/albums/jj513/Ian_Crash_Tarr/Image102620142043201_zps3e255d5b.jpg) (http://s1265.photobucket.com/user/Ian_Crash_Tarr/media/Image102620142043201_zps3e255d5b.jpg.html)
What're you talkin' bout, Vod?  That is one sick paint job!
Title: Re: Echo Darklighter MK II. Rebuild time!
Post by: Cin Vhe'rang on Oct 26, 2014, 09:48 PM
What're you talkin' bout, Vod?  That is one sick paint job!
He's not shiny or clean like Cin.  Busted and nasty is the way to go.  Echo was always meant to be a bit of a seasoned veteran and a hard charger.
Title: Re: Echo Darklighter MK II. Rebuild time!
Post by: Dresdon Acacin on Oct 27, 2014, 11:12 AM
Just do some black mesh or the back of a motherboard where all the small intricate connections are
Title: Re: Echo Darklighter MK II. Rebuild time!
Post by: Cin Vhe'rang on Nov 10, 2014, 06:14 PM
Just do some black mesh or the back of a motherboard where all the small intricate connections are
I'll go that way when I get around to it.  Honestly, though, that's kinda how this kit is being built- a whole lot of "eh, when I get around to it," partially due to finances, partially due to laziness/ being busy.

Yesterday and today have been busy, though- after a blast of a time at Nekocon (and the damaging of one of my favorite blasters- since fixed with some force-threading and a few dabs of E6000, but that's a different kit), I got back into gear, cut the chest diamond, mounted this, attached that, and came out with what you see here, thrown on for a quick test fit.

(http://i1265.photobucket.com/albums/jj513/Ian_Crash_Tarr/image_zps006a9578.jpeg) (http://s1265.photobucket.com/user/Ian_Crash_Tarr/media/image_zps006a9578.jpeg.html)

So far, so good.  I still need to modify and rig up my back plate (urgh), try and fix up the left gauntlet (revisit closure method, repaint the control panel, re-attach hoses leading to vest/ attached flame pack), throw together a new pouch belt, finish the helmet (pad the interior, cap off the keyhole vents), and, of course, paint the plates (aside from the diamond, bells, and knees, which will remain unpainted aside from traditional emblems on the shoulder bells, but will take a good black wash).

We're getting there, slowly but surely.  I'm cautiously optimistic that I can have this kit done by the end of the year.  Worst-case scenario, Echo will troop again in January.
Title: Re: Echo Darklighter MK II. Rebuild time!
Post by: Zekk Voss on Nov 10, 2014, 06:24 PM
Gee vod, we really do have similar color schemes.  I was actually considering painting the dome black for quite a while on my kit.
Looking awesome!  I can't wait to see how the plates turn out painted.
And good luck with the back plate.  The real reason I have a duster is because my most readily available plate shaping asset... isn't an asset anymore.
Title: Re: Echo Darklighter MK II. Rebuild time!
Post by: Dresdon Acacin on Nov 10, 2014, 06:44 PM
Looks great vod!
Title: Re: Echo Darklighter MK II. Rebuild time!
Post by: Kandosii Tor on Nov 14, 2014, 11:19 PM
That is one bitchin' suit of beskar'gam, vod!!!
Title: Re: Echo Darklighter MK II. Rebuild time!
Post by: Cin Vhe'rang on Nov 14, 2014, 11:48 PM
Looks great vod!
That is one bitchin' suit of beskar'gam, vod!!!
Thanks, all!  I'm now applying the first coats of paint.  Given, it's on hold at the moment, due to running out of flat black and warm days.  Gotta watch the weather and get another can.  Or two. :laugh:

No spoilers on the final paint scheme.  I'm keeping it similar to the original, but with a bit more pop, color, and damage.  We're on the home stretch now, vode. :D
Title: Re: Echo Darklighter MK II. Rebuild time!
Post by: Dresdon Acacin on Nov 15, 2014, 02:22 PM
you can never have enough flat black vod-last time I ran out I said 'eff it and bought 8 cans of flat black rust paint lolol
Title: Re: Echo Darklighter MK II. Rebuild time!
Post by: Cin Vhe'rang on Nov 25, 2014, 12:20 AM
App photos are in.  Let's see how this goes...

(http://i1265.photobucket.com/albums/jj513/Ian_Crash_Tarr/10648922_10153353403924972_8142810291037527363_o_zpse1cfb9c5.jpg) (http://s1265.photobucket.com/user/Ian_Crash_Tarr/media/10648922_10153353403924972_8142810291037527363_o_zpse1cfb9c5.jpg.html)

(http://i1265.photobucket.com/albums/jj513/Ian_Crash_Tarr/10624632_10153353404359972_5496684470643027656_n_zpsa9bc5cca.jpg) (http://s1265.photobucket.com/user/Ian_Crash_Tarr/media/10624632_10153353404359972_5496684470643027656_n_zpsa9bc5cca.jpg.html)

(http://i1265.photobucket.com/albums/jj513/Ian_Crash_Tarr/10389188_10153353404294972_5874309018791475636_n_zpsb6aad71b.jpg) (http://s1265.photobucket.com/user/Ian_Crash_Tarr/media/10389188_10153353404294972_5874309018791475636_n_zpsb6aad71b.jpg.html)

(http://i1265.photobucket.com/albums/jj513/Ian_Crash_Tarr/10375061_10153353404829972_8316974520053490134_n_zpsd3c423ff.jpg) (http://s1265.photobucket.com/user/Ian_Crash_Tarr/media/10375061_10153353404829972_8316974520053490134_n_zpsd3c423ff.jpg.html)

I'm a little unhappy that the leather pouch belt doesn't sit higher on the kit, but that can be fixed with a few well-placed snaps.  Also, I need to find a way to keep my bloody range finder stalk up straight.  The nut that anchors it on doesn't like to tighten down enough to make it stay put if I'm doing a lot of moving around.  I'd also like to add a decent set of leather spats and start getting together some tools and bits (combat knife, flares, commlink) to apply for Recon.  I'll get there eventually; first, gotta make sure my build so far is in good order. :laugh:
Title: Re: Echo Darklighter MK II. Rebuild time!
Post by: Zekk Voss on Nov 25, 2014, 12:31 AM
I've got that same problem with my RF stalk.  Lookin' good vod!
Title: Re: Echo Darklighter MK II. Rebuild time!
Post by: Jorad Werde on Nov 25, 2014, 01:30 AM
Magnets, that's my plan when I update my stalk
Title: Re: Echo Darklighter MK II. Rebuild time!
Post by: Dresdon Acacin on Nov 25, 2014, 12:01 PM
Looks good to me, also theres one thing that might halp the pouches look a bit more uniform, add some 'liners' to them-what im doing for mine to help tthem keep their shape is just make U shaped (square though) galvanized inserts so they stay square and also since the bottom of the pouch is where they hook into the peg it can get tricky at times-I removed my drawstraps all tohether and am going to put a brass plate to hide the stitching and conceal a rare-earth magnet that will make the pouches stick shut on the sheetmetal liner, just a thought you might want to look into.

oh and as for the level of the belt I keep mine from sagging(msot of the time) with velcro attached to the girthbelt, vest, and back of the belt to keep it all level however much possible

my tip for getting stickyback velcro to stick: clean, warm surfaces and take a heatgun to the adhesive before you apply it.
Title: Re: Echo Darklighter MK II. Rebuild time!
Post by: Cin Vhe'rang on Nov 25, 2014, 12:47 PM
Looks good to me, also theres one thing that might halp the pouches look a bit more uniform, add some 'liners' to them-what im doing for mine to help tthem keep their shape is just make U shaped (square though) galvanized inserts so they stay square and also since the bottom of the pouch is where they hook into the peg it can get tricky at times-I removed my drawstraps all tohether and am going to put a brass plate to hide the stitching and conceal a rare-earth magnet that will make the pouches stick shut on the sheetmetal liner, just a thought you might want to look into.

oh and as for the level of the belt I keep mine from sagging(msot of the time) with velcro attached to the girthbelt, vest, and back of the belt to keep it all level however much possible

my tip for getting stickyback velcro to stick: clean, warm surfaces and take a heatgun to the adhesive before you apply it.
That'd be a good call for long-term storage, but the pouches are used during every troop to carry my crap (wallet, phone, cigs), so inserts would make my life more difficult.  I might try the velcro out, though.
Title: Re: Echo Darklighter MK II. Rebuild time!
Post by: Jorad Werde on Nov 25, 2014, 01:46 PM
I put foam insers in my poiches, i just used the extra foam from the piece I bought for my helmet.  I too use my pouches to hold my stuff, the foam is really easy to remove, but gives the pouches body when they are empty, keeps them from getting creased when they are in my kit box, ect.
Title: Re: Echo Darklighter MK II. Rebuild time!
Post by: Dresdon Acacin on Nov 25, 2014, 04:12 PM
True, I guess itd only be good for what yu can drop in like chucking stuff in a box-the foams a neat idea though, might give that a go soon.
Title: Re: Echo Darklighter MK II. Rebuild time!
Post by: Zekk Voss on Nov 25, 2014, 05:30 PM
Well, you could cut out the pieces of foam so that there'd be a sized insert for you to keep your stuff in while keeping the pouches' shape.
Title: Re: Echo Darklighter MK II. Rebuild time!
Post by: Cin Vhe'rang on Dec 01, 2014, 12:42 AM
Still waiting on word back from the App Team, but early info from an insider says it's getting kicked back for one or two small things.  Well, great, someone wanna tell me what those are so I can fix them?  For the first time in months, I have a few days I can dedicate to solid work, and folks want to be tight-lipped.  Gotta love the holiday season...
Title: Re: Echo Darklighter MK II. Rebuild time!
Post by: Zekk Voss on Dec 01, 2014, 01:51 AM
I do see one thing, there's a visible zipper on that arm pocket, vod.  I think I have the same flight suit and I'll be covering that up with a kamino dart bandolier.  Other than that I don't see anything.
Title: Re: Echo Darklighter MK II. Rebuild time!
Post by: Cin Vhe'rang on Dec 01, 2014, 02:09 AM
I do see one thing, there's a visible zipper on that arm pocket, vod.  I think I have the same flight suit and I'll be covering that up with a kamino dart bandolier.  Other than that I don't see anything.
Gotcha.  I'll see if I can't scare up a spare flight suit, in that case.
Title: Re: Echo Darklighter MK II. Rebuild time!
Post by: Dresdon Acacin on Dec 01, 2014, 08:45 AM
you could try taking a pocket off the flightsuit and using that for material
Title: Re: Echo Darklighter MK II. Rebuild time!
Post by: Cin Vhe'rang on Jan 12, 2015, 02:55 PM
Let's try this again...

(http://i1265.photobucket.com/albums/jj513/Ian_Crash_Tarr/IMG_0073_zps4fb0f61c.jpg) (http://s1265.photobucket.com/user/Ian_Crash_Tarr/media/IMG_0073_zps4fb0f61c.jpg.html)

(http://i1265.photobucket.com/albums/jj513/Ian_Crash_Tarr/IMG_0074_zpsaba31703.jpg) (http://s1265.photobucket.com/user/Ian_Crash_Tarr/media/IMG_0074_zpsaba31703.jpg.html)

(http://i1265.photobucket.com/albums/jj513/Ian_Crash_Tarr/IMG_0075_zpsdd278899.jpg) (http://s1265.photobucket.com/user/Ian_Crash_Tarr/media/IMG_0075_zpsdd278899.jpg.html)

(http://i1265.photobucket.com/albums/jj513/Ian_Crash_Tarr/IMG_0076_zps3bd9dbc8.jpg) (http://s1265.photobucket.com/user/Ian_Crash_Tarr/media/IMG_0076_zps3bd9dbc8.jpg.html)

I ended up using an older, broken flight suit (with sleeves) underneath a newer one (with short sleeves).  My kit was not meant to fit with this much fabric.  I may have to modify it.  Or, you know, lay off the dark beer and fried foods, maybe run a bit.  :P

This is pretty much a done project, as far as I see it.  Plates fixed, flight suit switched out, ready to rock.  Let's see if the App Team agrees.  If not, well, I got sumthin' for 'em...

(http://i1265.photobucket.com/albums/jj513/Ian_Crash_Tarr/IMG_0083copy_zpsb51fd58e.jpg) (http://s1265.photobucket.com/user/Ian_Crash_Tarr/media/IMG_0083copy_zpsb51fd58e.jpg.html)

 ;)
Title: Re: Echo Darklighter MK II. Rebuild time!
Post by: Jorad Werde on Jan 12, 2015, 03:02 PM
Looks good Vod.
Title: Re: Echo Darklighter MK II. Rebuild time!
Post by: Thoranios Xast'or on Jan 12, 2015, 03:32 PM
You fixed everything they kicked you back on. I think you're good to go this time.
Title: Re: Echo Darklighter MK II. Rebuild time!
Post by: Zekk Voss on Jan 12, 2015, 05:09 PM
I don't see anything wrong, hope it gets approved!
Title: Re: Echo Darklighter MK II. Rebuild time!
Post by: Straka Zulu on Jan 12, 2015, 10:34 PM
They'd BETTER approve this, if they know what's good for them! :P

Been busy with my build, just checked in on here to see what I missed.  Apparently, a LOT! :o
Title: Re: Echo Darklighter MK II. Rebuild time!
Post by: Cin Vhe'rang on Jan 14, 2015, 05:45 PM
They'd BETTER approve this, if they know what's good for them! :P

Been busy with my build, just checked in on here to see what I missed.  Apparently, a LOT! :o
To be fair, I kinda didn't bother posting a lot of my WIP on the boards.  I decided to spare you the "okay, so I painted this plate today" monotony.  I might do a tutorial on the weathering method I used though- the dirt I threw on this sucker looks substantially better than my previous attempts.
Title: Re: Echo Darklighter MK II. Rebuild time!
Post by: Thoranios Xast'or on Jan 14, 2015, 06:19 PM
I might do a tutorial on the weathering method I used though- the dirt I threw on this sucker looks substantially better than my previous attempts.

If you have the time to do something like that, I know people would benefit.
Title: Re: Echo Darklighter MK II. Rebuild time!
Post by: Cin Vhe'rang on Jan 15, 2015, 01:29 PM
If you have the time to do something like that, I know people would benefit.
I'll kick it down the pipe sometime within the next few days.  School and work make my free time rather slim.

In other news, I got an e-mail from the Personnel Officer today, congratulating me on getting Echo approved.  Ladies and gents, Echo's now Official again! :D
Title: Re: Echo Darklighter MK II. Rebuild time!
Post by: Carid Vhett on Jan 15, 2015, 01:30 PM
Congratz vod.
Title: Re: Echo Darklighter MK II. Rebuild time!
Post by: Cin Vhe'rang on Jan 15, 2015, 01:45 PM
Congratz vod.
Thanks!  When time and money are more free-flowing, I'll add a few new pieces (modded spats, a true back plate), then get started on my Next Big Secret Project That I'm Totally Not Telling Anyone About For Now Because Reasons.  When the time for that comes, you'll know it, and it shall be awesome. :D
Title: Re: Echo Darklighter MK II. Rebuild time!
Post by: Thoranios Xast'or on Jan 15, 2015, 02:13 PM
I'll kick it down the pipe sometime within the next few days.  School and work make my free time rather slim.

I hear you there. I graduate this semester so everything is kicking off now.

And congrats on the Approval!
Title: Re: Echo Darklighter MK II. Rebuild time!
Post by: ares on Mar 14, 2015, 08:44 AM
Congrats.. Looks fabulous!
Title: Re: Echo Darklighter MK II. Rebuild time!
Post by: Cin Vhe'rang on Mar 15, 2015, 01:00 AM
Congrats.. Looks fabulous!
S'what I do, vod.  Three kits in three years. :D

Now moving on to Project Calamity, which I'm building kind of on the quiet side, until I decide I need help...
Title: Re: Echo Darklighter MK II. Rebuild time!
Post by: Dresdon Acacin on Mar 15, 2015, 01:56 AM
Congrats:   it was only a matter of time really  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Echo Darklighter MK II. Rebuild time!
Post by: Cin Vhe'rang on Mar 16, 2015, 03:37 PM
Congrats:   it was only a matter of time really  :rolleyes:
Thanks, vod!  Actually, it was approved all the way back in January, but I'm considering piggy-backing the next project onto this thread, since the next project is going to be modeled off of this one, for the most part.
Title: Re: Echo Darklighter MK II. Rebuild time!
Post by: Dresdon Acacin on Mar 16, 2015, 05:41 PM
Well if it's related why not?
Title: Re: Echo Darklighter MK II. Rebuild time!
Post by: Cin Vhe'rang on Mar 17, 2015, 01:54 AM
Well if it's related why not?
Because it's not a kit for me. ;)

(http://i1265.photobucket.com/albums/jj513/Ian_Crash_Tarr/ArmorColorConcept_zps6ec2cc0e.jpg) (http://s1265.photobucket.com/user/Ian_Crash_Tarr/media/ArmorColorConcept_zps6ec2cc0e.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Echo Darklighter MK II. Rebuild time!
Post by: Dresdon Acacin on Mar 17, 2015, 08:16 AM
Oooooohhh Ic ic-change the title of the thread a lil and youll be fine/
Title: Re: Echo Darklighter MK II. Rebuild time!
Post by: Cin Vhe'rang on Dec 03, 2016, 02:02 AM
Oooooohhh Ic ic-change the title of the thread a lil and youll be fine/
And so I have. :D

So, I've gone mostly silent over the past year on this kit, seeing as time has been at a premium, and I've been a bit busy...

(http://i1265.photobucket.com/albums/jj513/Ian_Crash_Tarr/IMG_0759_zpsna0sjif7.jpg) (http://s1265.photobucket.com/user/Ian_Crash_Tarr/media/IMG_0759_zpsna0sjif7.jpg.html)

Very busy, in fact, but I have managed to get the new kit for my new wife well along the way.  I never did get around to making a full WIP for her kit (read: busy, and a slacker), but I can drop a few teasers while working on a few last pieces.  For starters, her blaster...

(http://i1265.photobucket.com/albums/jj513/Ian_Crash_Tarr/IMG_0663_zpsjsud8u08.jpg) (http://s1265.photobucket.com/user/Ian_Crash_Tarr/media/IMG_0663_zpsjsud8u08.jpg.html)

DL-44 Carbine, "Mr DeLicious."  It's more or less my trooping rifle for Echo until her kit is complete.  I'm kinda fond of it. :laugh:  Next up, a side-by-side of her bucket next to mine (modified Iron Forge Night Owl, with the T-visor more gently curved to fit her preferences).

(http://i1265.photobucket.com/albums/jj513/Ian_Crash_Tarr/IMG_0745_zpszbl9sa8o.jpg) (http://s1265.photobucket.com/user/Ian_Crash_Tarr/media/IMG_0745_zpszbl9sa8o.jpg.html)

And last of all, a lazily-draped photo of her completed chest plates.

(http://i1265.photobucket.com/albums/jj513/Ian_Crash_Tarr/IMG_0900_zpsz4ceycvg.jpg) (http://s1265.photobucket.com/user/Ian_Crash_Tarr/media/IMG_0900_zpsz4ceycvg.jpg.html)

The stripe looks a little off in the shot, but again, lazily draped.  Obviously, the kit is meant to be a companion kit to my own, and to give her a better sense of what all is involved in the construction of a decent kit.  She might look into doing an EC kit, but that's far down the road.  In the meantime, I'll post up more pics once the gauntlets are done, and we can fully kit her up.

One last update:  My kit has had a few small improvements added...

(http://i1265.photobucket.com/albums/jj513/Ian_Crash_Tarr/DSC_1408_zpsq3h7qi0k.jpg) (http://s1265.photobucket.com/user/Ian_Crash_Tarr/media/DSC_1408_zpsq3h7qi0k.jpg.html)

Switched out the big leather girth for a more classic model, added spats, put my blaster and holster on an Imperial Officer's belt, and started running around with a different flight suit-and-undersleeve combination (it came about more or less by accident one day when my flight suit was far too funky to wear to an event).

(http://i1265.photobucket.com/albums/jj513/Ian_Crash_Tarr/DSC_1384_zpszqr7jwvc.jpg) (http://s1265.photobucket.com/user/Ian_Crash_Tarr/media/DSC_1384_zpszqr7jwvc.jpg.html)

Also switched out my right shoulder bell for a two-fer of red ones to give the red accents a bit more pop.  The hat?  The hat's just awesome. :laugh:
Title: Re: Vhe'dala Darklighter, New Member.
Post by: Cin Vhe'rang on Dec 14, 2016, 04:28 PM
And here she is.

(http://i1265.photobucket.com/albums/jj513/Ian_Crash_Tarr/IMG_0932_zps6tgapnxl.jpg) (http://s1265.photobucket.com/user/Ian_Crash_Tarr/media/IMG_0932_zps6tgapnxl.jpg.html)

(http://i1265.photobucket.com/albums/jj513/Ian_Crash_Tarr/IMG_0933_zpsxrdrdqfx.jpg) (http://s1265.photobucket.com/user/Ian_Crash_Tarr/media/IMG_0933_zpsxrdrdqfx.jpg.html)

(http://i1265.photobucket.com/albums/jj513/Ian_Crash_Tarr/IMG_0920_zps1uurxdz2.jpg) (http://s1265.photobucket.com/user/Ian_Crash_Tarr/media/IMG_0920_zps1uurxdz2.jpg.html)

(http://i1265.photobucket.com/albums/jj513/Ian_Crash_Tarr/IMG_0919_zpsxo74sjer.jpg) (http://s1265.photobucket.com/user/Ian_Crash_Tarr/media/IMG_0919_zpsxo74sjer.jpg.html)

With blaster:
(http://i1265.photobucket.com/albums/jj513/Ian_Crash_Tarr/11063052-9262-46d1-8299-d05e07b2f83d_zpslpiqhktm.jpg) (http://s1265.photobucket.com/user/Ian_Crash_Tarr/media/11063052-9262-46d1-8299-d05e07b2f83d_zpslpiqhktm.jpg.html)

I need to dirty up the soft parts a bit (already spoke to one member of the app team), but I'm happy with the kit as it stands.  Could use a few tiny tweaks, maybe some more small parts to add character...  Eh, in due time.

Questions, comments, recommendations, thinly-veiled insults...?
Title: Re: Vhe'dala Darklighter, New Member.
Post by: Thoranios Xast'or on Dec 14, 2016, 10:52 PM
Man, that rifle is freaking sweet! I'm really digging the color combo you have going on too.
Title: Re: Vhe'dala Darklighter, New Member.
Post by: Cin Vhe'rang on Dec 15, 2016, 03:11 AM
Man, that rifle is freaking sweet! I'm really digging the color combo you have going on too.
She picked the blue accents.  It was meant to be a companion kit to Echo (my own), and I think it turned out well.

The blaster?  That's Mr Delicious.  He's a bad mamma-jamma.
Title: Re: Vhe'dala Darklighter, New Member.
Post by: Thoranios Xast'or on Dec 16, 2016, 04:12 AM
I almost did a dark teal as the accent on mine, but I opted for the brown instead. It's nice to see someone do it properly.