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Mandalorian Armor => Helmets => Topic started by: Beleck Kase on Nov 04, 2014, 08:47 PM

Title: My first wip!!!
Post by: Beleck Kase on Nov 04, 2014, 08:47 PM
After meeting some very nice people at the Quebec Comicon, I got hooked.  Here is my first wip.  Please if you see any error or have any input, let me know. 

I haven't decided on colours yet, I'm concentrating on making the helmet solid.  Hopping to fiber glass soon.

Here is where I'm at:

Cutting the bicycle helmet to make the dome.
(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a4/balou34/Mandalorian%20stuff/20141103_155440.jpg)

Putting it together.
(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a4/balou34/Mandalorian%20stuff/20141103_125622.jpg)

More soon.
Title: Re: My first wip!!!
Post by: Ohl'd Vart on Nov 04, 2014, 09:49 PM
Looks good, so far!  :)

Rob
Title: Re: My first wip!!!
Post by: gnomKOLIN on Nov 05, 2014, 12:39 AM
Really good start, vode! ;)
Title: Re: My first wip!!!
Post by: Tusken Waiter on Nov 05, 2014, 12:57 AM
Looks really god! Tusken Waiter approved!  ;)
Title: Re: My first wip!!!
Post by: Beleck Kase on Nov 06, 2014, 09:16 AM
More work done.  The ear caps and the RF.  Still lots to do tho.  I'll be posting my armor planning soon.

For now my problem is how to add a mechanism that will hold the RF in the up position???

(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a4/balou34/Mandalorian%20stuff/20141105_163248.jpg)

(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a4/balou34/Mandalorian%20stuff/20141105_163236.jpg)

(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a4/balou34/Mandalorian%20stuff/20141105_133157.jpg)

(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a4/balou34/Mandalorian%20stuff/20141105_163314.jpg)


Hoping to glass this weekend.

Any comment are more than welcome.

Enjoy and later...
Title: Re: My first wip!!!
Post by: Kitala-Enby on Nov 06, 2014, 09:35 AM
Remember to put liquid resin on the outside and the fiberglass matt/cloth/paste on the inside, It's a mistake for too many people make and it will take ages to fix as you have to sand back the texture of the fiberglass, resining the outside means you only have a thin layer to smooth, don't cake it in bondo either, the paper surface is more or less smooth already, all you really need to do is resin it, sand back the resin until it is smooth (you might need to lightly skim it with bondo but don't load it on) Then bondo any gaps between pieces like the cheeks and visor etc..
Title: Re: My first wip!!!
Post by: Beleck Kase on Nov 06, 2014, 10:15 AM
Thanks for the info Kitala-Enby and hope every thing goes as I have planned .  Should I be concerned about warpage when I resin the outside of the helmet?



Title: Re: My first wip!!!
Post by: Kelan Ord on Nov 06, 2014, 11:02 AM
Thanks for the info Kitala-Enby and hope every thing goes as I have planned .  Should I be concerned about warpage when I resin the outside of the helmet?

I don't think you have to worry about that. But go with thin coats.
Title: Re: My first wip!!!
Post by: Beleck Kase on Nov 14, 2014, 04:48 PM
Hello everyone, got some step completed, fiberglass is done, ears caps are done and range finder is on its way.  I'm in never ending bondo phase :rolleyes:.  man is it ever time consuming.  Can't wait to see that done and going to the primer.

Hope everything is looking good, I like to think so.  If you see anything wrong let me know.

I still have to sand down the face.
(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a4/balou34/Mandalorian%20stuff/20141114_144027.jpg)   

(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a4/balou34/Mandalorian%20stuff/20141114_144019.jpg)

(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a4/balou34/Mandalorian%20stuff/20141114_144053.jpg)

(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a4/balou34/Mandalorian%20stuff/20141114_144034.jpg)

I'll be strarting on the armor pretty soon.

Later and thanks for the help.

Balou

Title: Re: My first wip!!!
Post by: Kitala-Enby on Nov 15, 2014, 08:04 AM
that looks pretty good vod. Something I would suggest is prime between filler coats. it helps give you a better idea of what needs the work. But this is a perfect example of how to do a scratch build helmet.
Title: Re: My first wip!!!
Post by: Beleck Kase on Nov 17, 2014, 08:35 PM
Woo hooo!

Got the first coat of primer on. 
(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a4/balou34/Mandalorian%20stuff/20141117_144427.jpg)
(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a4/balou34/Mandalorian%20stuff/20141117_144434.jpg)
(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a4/balou34/Mandalorian%20stuff/20141117_144442.jpg)
(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a4/balou34/Mandalorian%20stuff/20141117_144502.jpg)

It realy highlight the defects.  Need some more work on the face, cheeks and the ear caps.  Will get that done tomorrow if I get a chance.

I was wondering if there is a way to fix where I went thru the coat of resin?  I will try to cover the areas with finishing putty.  Don't know if thats the proper way tho.

Thanks again for the help.

Balou.
Title: Re: My first wip!!!
Post by: Modan Kordo on Nov 17, 2014, 10:41 PM
 :o

I bet you're enjoying doing fiberglass on that a lot more than at work, eh?   :P

Nice ALU rf, man! I assume it is aluminium? It looks very cool! I'm impressed,Little Bro!!!!

Nice to see I'm not the only one in the family with the bug.... I wonder if Pat will catch it too??
Title: Re: My first wip!!!
Post by: Beleck Kase on Nov 18, 2014, 09:19 AM
Salut Marc!

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Nice ALU rf, man! I assume it is aluminium?

Yes its Alu.  Made it from scraped Alu I had.

See you next week.

Balou
Title: Re: My first wip!!!
Post by: Bowfanny on Nov 20, 2014, 12:05 AM
Great progress Vod! That is a very nice and clean build you've got there. To confirm your suspicions, yes spot putty is how to fix small blemishes here and there. Also if you alternate colors of primer between sanding phased you'll be able to make that thing smooth as glass when you have it finished, but you can leave some blemishes and chock it up to battle damage! Great luck to you on your build and progress and I'll keep an eye out to watch your progress.
Title: Re: My first wip!!!
Post by: Beleck Kase on Nov 20, 2014, 09:19 PM
Hello all,

Started to paint today, the two first coat of gun metal grey is done.  Next will come the arctic white and the first sign of weathering.  Hope it all goes well.
(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a4/balou34/Mandalorian%20stuff/20141120_192047.jpg)

And here is what it should look in the end:
(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a4/balou34/Mandalorian%20stuff/20141108_070743.jpg)

Regarding my next colors wich is white, should I paint the whole helmet(to create double layer weathering) or mask and paint only the surrounding of the visor? 

Any comment on the colors is more than welcome.

Later everyone.
Title: Re: My first wip!!!
Post by: Drakus Cin'Ciri on Nov 20, 2014, 09:38 PM
Awesome work so far Vod  ;D
You could run either way for the weathering. The double weathering effect really does add a lot to any helmet when it is done right. It adds a more realistic feel of the paint layers being peeled up from abuse seen in combat. I have also seen some members start with a coat of black before adding their main colors to create a scorched effect that looks similar to the grey weathering done on boba's helmet. I would recommend looking at other helmets to get an idea of what type of weathering style you ultimately want your helmet to have.

Looking forward to seeing some more progress  ;D
Title: Re: My first wip!!!
Post by: Modan Kordo on Nov 25, 2014, 07:38 PM
Wow, Eric! Very nice work indeed!!!

Looking forward to seeing it tomorrow night, Bro!
Title: Re: My first wip!!!
Post by: Beleck Kase on Nov 29, 2014, 07:44 PM
Hello all,

Did some painting.  Let me know if the wear and tear is too much.  I still have to do the white around the visor and some black on the cheeks, wonder how the white is going to go on with the red under?  Might have to change my choice of colors.

Here we go...
(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a4/balou34/Mandalorian%20stuff/20141123_092244.jpg)

(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a4/balou34/Mandalorian%20stuff/20141123_093958.jpg)

(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a4/balou34/Mandalorian%20stuff/20141129_103916.jpg)

(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a4/balou34/Mandalorian%20stuff/20141129_191431.jpg)

(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a4/balou34/Mandalorian%20stuff/20141129_191441.jpg)

(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a4/balou34/Mandalorian%20stuff/20141129_191450.jpg)

(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a4/balou34/Mandalorian%20stuff/20141129_191503.jpg)

Just a question, to remove the shine, is steel wool the way to go or is it to coarse?

Thanks and let me know what you think.
Title: Re: My first wip!!!
Post by: Jorad Werde on Nov 29, 2014, 09:47 PM
Try laying down a layer of grey or white primer before u put the white surface layer on.  The primer is a bit thicker than normal paint and better at covering.  By using s lighter color primer you'll make it easier for the white paint to properly cover the layer it is going over. 
Title: Re: My first wip!!!
Post by: Beleck Kase on Nov 30, 2014, 09:13 AM
Good idea,  Jorad Werde.  Should of though about that my self, must of had a brain fart ;).  Will try to mask and re-prime the area today and see how it comes out.

Thanks

Balou
Title: Re: My first wip!!!
Post by: Modan Kordo on Nov 30, 2014, 03:03 PM
Looking good, bro!  Like the colors, too!

So, you did gun metal gray, toothpaste for weathering, then white.  Did you add more weathering over the stuff already there and the do red? I can see the layered white and red, but can't really figure how the "T" will come out more to look forward to!! Can't wait!!

Either way, looks very nice indeed! Watching closely and taking notes!
Title: Re: My first wip!!!
Post by: Beleck Kase on Nov 30, 2014, 05:12 PM
Salut jmchabot,

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Did you add more weathering over the stuff already there and the do red? I can see the layered white and red

Yes I did add some more tooth paste before painting the red.  The area around the  visor will show three layers of weathering, so gun metal gray-white-and red.  The final color is white.  Anyway thats the plan.

More soon



Title: Re: My first wip!!!
Post by: Beleck Kase on Dec 01, 2014, 08:50 PM
Got the final colors on but something went wrong with the primer around the visor.  The paint pealed right off when I unmasked.  I used primer and paint of the same brand, and followed the instruction to the letter.  Anyway, will try to redo or think of someting. 

(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a4/balou34/Mandalorian%20stuff/20141201_132037.jpg)

Aside my primer issue, I'm happy with the result.  Black or brown wash still to come not sure yet, have to read on that first.

I'll be switching to my armor wip prety soon.  Flight suit is almost ready, girth belt is under way and armor templates are cut( will be looking for sizing opinion). 

Later.
Title: Re: My first wip!!!
Post by: Modan Kordo on Dec 01, 2014, 09:39 PM
Wow Balou!  Niiiiice!

The paint that peeled, did it just go to the gunmetal? If so let it be weathering...

Title: Re: My first wip!!!
Post by: Jorad Werde on Dec 01, 2014, 09:40 PM
Temperature will sometimes do that with paint
Title: Re: My first wip!!!
Post by: Beleck Kase on Dec 02, 2014, 01:44 PM
Hello again...

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The paint that peeled, did it just go to the gunmetal? If so let it be weathering...

No, unfortunatly.  I have already sanded down to remove the white and the defective primer.  Will re-shoot tonight without the primer.

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Temperature will sometimes do that with paint


That could be it.  The garage is heated to a minimum and when I need it I turn on the heat.  The primer must of been to cold.  Hope it goes well tonight.

Later for more update...
Title: Re: My first wip!!!
Post by: Beleck Kase on Dec 14, 2014, 08:44 PM
Hello!

Finally got some time to work on my helmet, re-did the section around the visor because the paint was peeling off.  Did the black and brown wash( not sure I did a good job) for a first time, I'm happy.  Doing my first build was quite challenging and rewarding.  Next step will be the visor and padding inside. And then, I will be working on my soft parts.

Pics time...
(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a4/balou34/Mandalorian%20stuff/20141214_184345.jpg)
(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a4/balou34/Mandalorian%20stuff/20141214_184456.jpg)
(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a4/balou34/Mandalorian%20stuff/20141214_184416.jpg)
(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a4/balou34/Mandalorian%20stuff/20141214_184358.jpg)

Does anyone have an idea for a blue visor?  I think I'm going to go clear sheild with blue tint applied to it.  I just don't know how its going to turnout.

Later...
Title: Re: My first wip!!!
Post by: Modan Kordo on Dec 14, 2014, 09:15 PM
Looks great, Eric! Your RF looks amazing!  Love the colors and your weathering, too!

Looking forward to the soft parts Wil!
Title: Re: My first wip!!!
Post by: Briks on Dec 14, 2014, 10:24 PM
Awesome! Heinz ketchup can is a nice touch too! Color coordinated!  :P

Also, there are colored visors available in the supply depot if you wanted to go that route.