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Mandalorian Armor => Helmets => Topic started by: Zekk Voss on Apr 27, 2015, 11:14 PM

Title: New Bucket Design and Pepakura: "Iviin'gota" (Speed Machine)
Post by: Zekk Voss on Apr 27, 2015, 11:14 PM
This idea has evolved from several inspirations.  When I made my first rendition of my kit, I always wanted a bucket with a visor due to my love of Scout Troopers, but that never wound up happening.  Then, I started examining McQuarrie's design concepts for the movies for inspiration.  A few months ago the idea hit me when I was drawing buckets based off of muscle car design features that I could combine the look of the tail section of the '69 Dodge Charger with the standard Mando, McQuarrie and Scout buckets to get a pretty mean looking original design that wouldn't look out of place in a Legacy comic. 

(http://i.imgur.com/nYuaLb7.jpg)
Note: I have made changes since then.  The bottom side and rear view pics are more accurate, although the visor will be more flat like McQuarrie's concept as opposed to being as curved around as I illustrated.  Take note of the implied side vents- those will be implemented.

This past weekend I started taking up the pep work, using Fierfek's Boba to help out with the dome and random bits that I would use communally.  Here's images of the bucket before I attached the rear panels.

(http://i.imgur.com/Qukz5uw.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/5acsgTg.jpg)

At this point in time, I'm almost finished with the back of the bucket, but have two areas where I want you vode opinion. 

The first area would be the rear vents- Ducts that have stick out louvres (top), or ducts that lead into the bucket (bottom)?

(http://i.imgur.com/q8KqN8m.jpg)

Secondly, in the rear right side panel there is a flap like surface that I had to cut out, and was considering turning it into a rear facing vent.  Yea or nay? 

(http://i.imgur.com/qUc22Ok.jpg)
Title: Re: New Bucket Design and Pepakura: "Iviin" (Velocity)
Post by: droodles on Apr 28, 2015, 03:24 AM
Ummmm. I love the flatness? of the visor in that drawing. There's a few alternative designs that really nailed visors on mando helmets. The assassin visor and the visor in the Marrow Sun Custom come to mind.

This could be up there if done up really nicely.

Reminds me of scuba diving gear.
Title: Re: New Bucket Design and Pepakura: "Iviin" (Velocity)
Post by: Zekk Voss on Apr 28, 2015, 07:19 AM
Thank you very much!  Indeed, if this does go well and others are interested, I might take up casting.  I have the sneaking suspicion that McQuarrie might have been inspired by scuba gear for his original concepts, now that I think about it.
Title: Re: New Bucket Design and Pepakura: "Iviin" (Velocity)
Post by: lockon13 on Apr 28, 2015, 10:36 AM
Neat the helmet looks like it'd be great for people with glasses that can't them in a normal bucket
Title: Re: New Bucket Design and Pepakura: "Iviin" (Velocity)
Post by: Zekk Voss on Apr 28, 2015, 11:07 AM
Although I didn't initially consider it in the design, this helmet would most certainly be glasses friendly, assuming you don't have giant ones of course.
Title: Re: New Bucket Design and Pepakura: "Iviin" (Velocity)
Post by: Drako Katora on Apr 28, 2015, 11:43 AM
never seen the sun shade actually molded into being part of the bucket before. Now I'm curious.  :laugh:
Title: Re: New Bucket Design and Pepakura: "Iviin" (Velocity)
Post by: Bowfanny on Apr 28, 2015, 12:05 PM
I'm interested to see which direction this goes myself! I like the concept!
Title: Re: New Bucket Design and Pepakura: "Iviin" (Velocity)
Post by: Zekk Voss on Apr 28, 2015, 04:53 PM
I'm leaning towards the inwards directed rear vents that I illustrated in the first post.  I'll probably be able to knock that part out tonight and maybe get a start on the earcaps or the cheekplates. 

Thank you vode for your display of interest and compliments! 
Title: Re: New Bucket Design and Pepakura: "Iviin" (Velocity)
Post by: Cattfish on Apr 29, 2015, 08:48 AM
Love this helmet design, can't wait to see where it goes from here.
Title: Re: New Bucket Design and Pepakura: "Iviin" (Velocity)
Post by: Straka Zulu on Apr 29, 2015, 09:08 AM
Color me intrigued. 8)

As for the vents, I like the idea of haveing them out, as opposed to in.  May not be much, but interior space can come at a premium.
Title: Re: New Bucket Design and Pepakura: "Iviin" (Velocity)
Post by: Zekk Voss on Apr 29, 2015, 10:59 AM
Color me intrigued. 8)

As for the vents, I like the idea of haveing them out, as opposed to in.  May not be much, but interior space can come at a premium.

Well, you got to me a little bit late, heh.  I've already built and attached them facing inwards.  At the most we're talking maybe 4/16ths of horizontal interior space lost in the bucket, but it's no cause for alarm as I can always make the dome longer if it looks like it'd be too tight when it all comes together.

Making them face in also allows the rear vents to have a Louvre like look to them, such as the ones on the Lamborghini Miura, going with the sports/muscle car design cues I'm using in other places on the bucket.
http://perpetuelle.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Lamborghini-Miura-1970s-Rear-Window-Louvres-620x392.jpg (http://perpetuelle.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Lamborghini-Miura-1970s-Rear-Window-Louvres-620x392.jpg)
Title: Re: New Bucket Design and Pepakura: "Iviin" (Velocity)
Post by: Zekk Voss on Apr 29, 2015, 11:25 AM
Here's some images of the newly completed rear vent.

(http://i.imgur.com/GE5JUZB.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/W4Mz2hx.jpg)
Title: Re: New Bucket Design and Pepakura: "Iviin" (Velocity)
Post by: Straka Zulu on Apr 29, 2015, 01:46 PM
After seeing the pics, I can agree. It works. :D
Title: Re: New Bucket Design and Pepakura: "Iviin" (Velocity)
Post by: Zekk Voss on Apr 29, 2015, 11:11 PM
Vor'e Straka!  Looks like I've decided on a pace for myself: One part per weekday, as many as I can cram in on the weekends.  At this rate, I may or may not get finished by this weekend.  Tonight I made the stencil and test fitted the underside of the visor frame, tomorrow I'll be working on the inside mandibles, on Friday I'm looking at getting the cheeks done. 

(http://i.imgur.com/7vdAw79.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/T0LqgZf.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/wepfpc1.jpg)

Title: Re: New Bucket Design and Pepakura: "Iviin" (Velocity)
Post by: Zekk Voss on Apr 30, 2015, 10:43 PM
So this is the part where I start to feel like my hard work is paying off.  I just got the mandible template done and taped it on.  I'm addressing the slight angle issue where it meets the vertical at the moment.  I'll be working on the cheeks tomorrow, and if all of it fits together well I'll be gluing afterwards.

(http://i.imgur.com/GRo1MQ0.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/yOpFD6h.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/aVz4etk.jpg)

Title: Re: New Bucket Design and Pepakura: "Iviin'gota" (Speed Machine)
Post by: Biodelta on Apr 30, 2015, 10:56 PM
keep it  up looks  good
Title: Re: New Bucket Design and Pepakura: "Iviin'gota" (Speed Machine)
Post by: Zekk Voss on May 01, 2015, 03:08 AM
Vor'e vod!
Title: Re: New Bucket Design and Pepakura: "Iviin'gota" (Speed Machine)
Post by: Sevrin Cerar on May 01, 2015, 02:59 PM
Looks awesome vod!
I'll be keepin an eye on this :P
Title: Re: New Bucket Design and Pepakura: "Iviin'gota" (Speed Machine)
Post by: Zekk Voss on May 01, 2015, 04:23 PM
Glad to hear it!   ;D

A great idea popped into my head.  I'm going to see how making the mandibles angled so they don't look flat would look on the bucket. 
Title: Re: New Bucket Design and Pepakura: "Iviin'gota" (Speed Machine)
Post by: lockon13 on May 02, 2015, 11:29 AM
I think you just helped me solve my bucket problem. ;D
Title: Re: New Bucket Design and Pepakura: "Iviin'gota" (Speed Machine)
Post by: Biodelta on May 03, 2015, 07:36 AM
hows it looking so  far are you planing on bondo then casting it
Title: Re: New Bucket Design and Pepakura: "Iviin'gota" (Speed Machine)
Post by: Zekk Voss on May 03, 2015, 11:10 AM
I think you just helped me solve my bucket problem. ;D

Glad I could help! 

Here's my progress as of last night, not pictured are the cheeks.  I do plan to glass it as per usual and there's a good chance I will be making a mold of it, although that could be down the line. 

Completed rear section

(http://i.imgur.com/xS18EMH.jpg)

Completed left side mandible; I need to create templates of them then I'm good to go for gluing.  The cheek segments along with this mandible will flow into the earcap vents I have planned. 

(http://i.imgur.com/Wnsh3f3.jpg)

Due to the way the bucket sits on me now, as well as knowing that fiberglassing the interior of the bucket will mean I lose around 3/8ths interior space, I will be extending the bucket by a half inch forwards.
Title: Re: New Bucket Design and Pepakura: "Iviin'gota" (Speed Machine)
Post by: Zekk Voss on May 04, 2015, 01:00 AM
VODE!

My ego is a little high at the moment because of well... here ya go.

After making ~20 stencils of the lower mandibles, I finally was able to get the right shape.  Without further ado, here's some images.

(http://i.imgur.com/ZEO5a4q.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/geCb4pH.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/EXy1prX.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/8kQnNz0.jpg)

I apologize for looking like I'm about to interrogate an informant XD

(http://i.imgur.com/wbS5GzN.jpg)
Title: Re: New Bucket Design and Pepakura: "Iviin'gota" (Speed Machine)
Post by: Vinthiz on May 04, 2015, 02:31 AM
Great stuff, vod! I love the concept, and can't wait to see it all come together
Title: Re: New Bucket Design and Pepakura: "Iviin'gota" (Speed Machine)
Post by: Biodelta on May 04, 2015, 06:45 AM
I love it  so far. HURA !! keep it  up vod
Title: Re: New Bucket Design and Pepakura: "Iviin'gota" (Speed Machine)
Post by: Zekk Voss on May 04, 2015, 10:40 AM
Vor'e vode!
My bucket has been successfully extended.  I'll post pics soon as I can tomorrow.
Title: Re: New Bucket Design and Pepakura: "Iviin'gota" (Speed Machine)
Post by: Zekk Voss on May 06, 2015, 12:27 AM
Here's images of the bucket extension with the cheeks glued on.  The cheeks aren't done yet as I have to figure the bottom angle out once the earcaps get on there.  The mandibles and cheeks will be extended into the vents.  Unfortunately I have to halt my work until Friday since it's AP exam week. 

(http://i.imgur.com/j3OTfH1.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/yddyxzi.jpg)
Title: Re: New Bucket Design and Pepakura: "Iviin'gota" (Speed Machine)
Post by: Zekk Voss on May 10, 2015, 11:07 PM
I wasn't able to get too much work in due to the fact that I had to work on two brand new presentations and read 150 pages this weekend, but it's almost done!
All that's left is to pep the areas behind the earcaps to accommodate for the greeblies I'll be putting there. 

(http://i.imgur.com/PvysTLu.jpg)
Yes, those are aviators being worn comfortably with the pep on, glasses users  8)

(http://i.imgur.com/Xfvkbtv.jpg)
Title: Re: New Bucket Design and Pepakura: "Iviin'gota" (Speed Machine)
Post by: Bowfanny on May 11, 2015, 01:18 AM
Taking shape quite nicely vod!
Title: Re: New Bucket Design and Pepakura: "Iviin'gota" (Speed Machine)
Post by: bassplaya on May 11, 2015, 11:45 AM
Very nice, speed machine is a good description for this helmet. Can totally see this helmet rocking with a speeder bike
Title: Re: New Bucket Design and Pepakura: "Iviin'gota" (Speed Machine)
Post by: Zekk Voss on May 11, 2015, 05:09 PM
Vor'e vode!  I'm glad it fits the look.