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Mandalorian Armor => Armor Construction => Topic started by: Yodamann on Aug 15, 2015, 01:17 AM

Title: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: Yodamann on Aug 15, 2015, 01:17 AM
Hey guys! I finally have some progress to post! Tonight I finished sanding the back plate of my armor, and with that, I'm ready
to start heating it up so I can bend it.

(http://i.imgur.com/sskfPp0.jpg)

So my next step is going to be heating the plates up (probably in an oven, maybe I'll buy a heat gun) and molding them to my body. Then it's on to paint and attaching velcro and straps for securing them to my person. On that subject, what is the preferred method for attaching straps to the leg plates? Is hot glue enough to keep them on?
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: Jorad Werde on Aug 15, 2015, 07:56 AM
For the leg straps I would use Chicago Screws (Also Known as post screws)
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: kiffren on Aug 15, 2015, 09:25 AM
Use at the very minimum epoxy. Hot glue doesn't hold up very well for long term wear. I use chicago screws going straight through my armor but if you do that your screws have to match your paint. If you glue the screws onto the back of your plate you're liable to have them pop off.

If you do want screws for a secure way of attaching take a piece of plastic that is about a 1/2" square and drill a hole through it that the post part of the screw barely fits in. Drill a hole a tiny bit into the plate in order to sink the head of the screw and then using either plastic epoxy or PVC cement (assuming you use Sintra, if it's not some form of PVC you can't use PVC cement) glue the piece of plastic over the screw that is sunk into the plate. Here's a diagram of what I mean:

(http://i.imgur.com/nWEKJTZ.png)
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: Yodamann on Aug 25, 2015, 12:20 AM
Got some progress! I picked up a heat gun at a garage sale for $4, so I could get to work on the shaping part of the build. I only got one shin done, as the mosquitoes were pretty bad, and holding a giant heat source wasn't helping.
(http://i.imgur.com/jt10kWE.jpg)
On my leg

(http://i.imgur.com/HYCPTgP.jpg)
Front

(http://i.imgur.com/5ZeP1xe.jpg)
Bottom

(http://i.imgur.com/XdtSTbL.jpg)
Top

I'm not sure if the curve I have is good enough, does anyone have any input?
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: Jorad Werde on Aug 25, 2015, 12:06 PM
If it fits ur leg comfortably its fine
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: Yodamann on Oct 15, 2015, 10:44 PM
I'm not dead!

I finished heat treating my plates and got them painted too!
(http://i.imgur.com/IP9xDKe.jpg)
For Comic Con, it looks like I'll go with a quick Velcro attachment, since I don't have the time to do anything more involved. It also looks like I'll have to reuse my old T-shirt vest. So no approval as is, but it is a WIP after all. Once Uni quiets down, I'll be able to get some work in and replace the vest. I'll also need to adjust my helmet for my massive head, but that's another story.
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: Yodamann on Oct 16, 2015, 07:45 PM
I just got some pictures of the stripe I put on my armor:
(http://i.imgur.com/nrdSCnu.jpg)
The whole kit
(http://i.imgur.com/TNfa79l.jpg)
The leg
(http://i.imgur.com/u6eAikn.jpg)
The torso
And now... the bad news. It seems the tape I used became a little too familiar with the paint in a few places...
(http://i.imgur.com/lcZEcB8.jpg)
The cod
(http://i.imgur.com/mpqR18c.jpg)
And the knee.

EDIT: Fixed image links
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: Yodamann on Oct 17, 2015, 10:01 PM
Also, how should the extra bits be attached to my shins/codpiece?
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: Kavryn Falco on Oct 18, 2015, 12:01 AM
e6000 or plastic epoxy will do it.  If you clamp it while the glue is setting you'll get the best results.

How heavy do you intend to blackwash your kit? If you fill it in with a silver paint sharpie (which you should have anyways for trooping damage), and you give it a decent blackwash on top, it'll blend right in.
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: Yodamann on Oct 18, 2015, 03:46 PM
I hadn't really thought about blackwash levels yet... I'm also not sure I completely understand. Are you suggesting that I cover any e6000 or epoxy that "leaks" out with sharpie? or am I completely off?
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: Kavryn Falco on Oct 18, 2015, 03:54 PM
Where the tape pulled the paint off, exposing the white sintra underneath - you can color in the sintra with a silver sharpie. The blackwash would just be to disguise the transition a bit because it may not be exactly the same shade of silver as your spraypaint.
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: Yodamann on Oct 18, 2015, 11:55 PM
Ah. Now I understand. I was planning on taping off the stripe and repainting. What's the worst that could happen?  :laugh:

Now, onto progress! A while ago, I bought some bathroom sets to use as gauntlets. Tonight, I got the middle part cut out and sanded down the outside:

(http://i.imgur.com/VPZjpkM.jpg)
On my arm

(http://i.imgur.com/PoeaVXb.jpg)
The both of them.

I plan on putting some aluminium paint on them at some point during the week, maybe Tuesday.
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: Yodamann on Oct 24, 2015, 07:07 PM
It's the weekend! That means it's time to put off studying and do some work on my armor!
First off, I've got my gauntlets painted:
(http://i.imgur.com/m2x3QFu.jpg)


And I've got my plates laid out on my temporary vest:
(http://i.imgur.com/xXKVrGY.jpg)

How does that look? I haven't put the velcro on the back of the plates yet, I thought I would do a quick poll before I made permanent changes.
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: Kavryn Falco on Oct 24, 2015, 11:17 PM
Looks good on the floor, would look better on you. Let's see some sizing pics before you attach them permanently :D
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: Yodamann on Nov 07, 2015, 05:48 PM
So I made some more progress! For the Con last weekend, I managed to get all my plates velcro'd up, using a technique I saw on TDH: First I cleaned the sintra with alcohol wipes, then I heated the velcro glue before sticking it to the sintra. This seems to do a good job of sticking it on; I couldn't peel it off from my test piece.
(http://i.imgur.com/zII2bT8.jpg)

So here's how it wound up looking. I know the shoulder bells are too high, but how's the rest of the sizing/placement? I think the shins/thighs/codpiece are good, but I don't know about the chest armor. I also think I'll have to shorten my gauntlets; I couldn't fully bend my arms...
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: Aden Banto on Nov 07, 2015, 06:54 PM
Looks like your collar plate is gonna need some trimming on the outside. Including your chest pieces. If we can get a better picture up close well be able to help you out with the trimming.....

Nice colors!  8)
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: Yodamann on Nov 07, 2015, 07:13 PM
What angle would be needed?
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: Kavryn Falco on Nov 07, 2015, 07:52 PM
Yeah, your chestplates are too big. The belly plate should end at about your belly button, give or take an inch or so. Your collar should fit between the balls of your shoulders, and the chestplates should follow roughly the curve of your pectorals. If you lift your arms straight in front of you, or cross your arms, and the plates bonk together badly or stab you in the arms, they're still too big.

As for the gauntlets, with your arm out straight, about four fingers' room at the crook of your elbow will give you enough space to wear them comfortably.
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: Yodamann on May 22, 2016, 04:37 PM
So now that classes and finals are done, I hope to finish this over the summer. On the subject of the armor plates, would it be recommended to start over, or cut down the plates I already have? And if I am cutting down the existing plates, I should flatten them out again, yes?
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: Havelock on May 22, 2016, 05:28 PM
I'd recommend trimming what you have, rather than starting over.  But that's up to you.  Whichever way works best for you, go for it!
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: Yodamann on May 23, 2016, 05:10 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/ylTYHD7.jpg)

So I printed out some new templates, and before I get to far again, how does this look for size/placement?
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: Darth_Vemon on May 23, 2016, 06:27 PM
Something about the angle of that photo makes your melon look elongated, like you're part Muun. 

In my eyes, the collar is sitting a little low and may be a little wide.
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: Yodamann on May 23, 2016, 07:45 PM
As far as I know, I'm full human, so I'll blame the mirror for the noggin shenanigans. So if the template is too big, if I printed them out at say, 90-95%, that would be good?
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: Havelock on May 23, 2016, 08:56 PM
As far as I know, I'm full human, so I'll blame the mirror for the noggin shenanigans. So if the template is too big, if I printed them out at say, 90-95%, that would be good?

Yep.  Give that a try.  And when you place the template for a pic, make sure the collar is almost choking you.
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: Yodamann on May 26, 2016, 07:49 PM
I'm back with another template! This one is definitely better, but is it right?

(http://i.imgur.com/m3xcAQv.jpg)
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: Havelock on May 26, 2016, 08:22 PM
Looks much better, vod.
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: Yodamann on May 27, 2016, 08:44 PM
Added some more templates to the set, the end of the belly plate is about 5 cm above the ol' belly button. Earlier in the thread, it was said that it should end about 3 cm lower. Is this just spacing, or is my torso oddly proportioned?

EDIT:

How about some pictures?

(http://i.imgur.com/sHEpWVf.jpg)
and with belly button reference
(http://i.imgur.com/WaeakUX.jpg)
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: Havelock on May 27, 2016, 09:37 PM
Your plates look a bit bunched up. Ideally, you want about an inch between the collar and chest pieces, and the chest pieces and ab plate.  No more than half an inch for the diamond.  So if you space out the torso plates a bit using - literally - the rule of thumb, that should just about take care of it.

And everybody's torsos are different.  Some have long torsos, some have shorter.  You'll get the perfect size, vod.  Keep up the great work.
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: Yodamann on May 28, 2016, 01:11 PM
I reflattened the plates, and it looks like I'll be able to just cut with no problem... except for the collar plate. If I use the existing plate, I'll lose about 1 cm on each side of the neck. That shouldn't be a problem, right?

(http://i.imgur.com/flc9NpB.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/fNpvBQf.jpg?1)

And I guess I'll have to sand the stripe off too before repainting.

EDIT:

I got the back plate template cut out too:
(http://i.imgur.com/Gpb7C3G.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/NqmseyN.jpg)
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: Mi'ix on May 29, 2016, 10:52 AM
Your plates could stand to come down maybe an inch or two. I think that is what is causing the bunching issue. My ab plates end just above my belly button.

Back plate looks ok size wize. You just have to be careful about how it sits around your shoulder joints. That's more of an issue with shaping that we can cover once you cut everything out.
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: Yodamann on May 29, 2016, 06:30 PM
Your plates could stand to come down maybe an inch or two. I think that is what is causing the bunching issue. My ab plates end just above my belly button.

So increase the spacing? Or move the whole set down?
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: Kris Jasra on May 29, 2016, 07:18 PM
Size bigger for height, size smaller for width, bland the two together to get something that fits your build. Space from where you first put the collar but then add an extra half cm to the gaps between armour would be my advice. With it already cut out - definitely only trim the width off not any height and see how it looks then. Remember to trim from both inside and outside of the chest plates or you'll end up with extra thin little prongs on the outside.
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: Yodamann on May 29, 2016, 11:57 PM
Size bigger for height, size smaller for width, bland the two together to get something that fits your build. Space from where you first put the collar but then add an extra half cm to the gaps between armour would be my advice. With it already cut out - definitely only trim the width off not any height and see how it looks then. Remember to trim from both inside and outside of the chest plates or you'll end up with extra thin little prongs on the outside.

If I'm reading your comment correctly, it looks like your concern is over insufficient sintra on the existing plates? I checked my new templates against what I already had cut out, and the only new ones that don't fit quite right are the collar and back plates. On the collar, it's a matter of the 1 cm on the inside of the collar, and I have enough scrap sintra to cut a new back and then the existing back becomes new scrap. As for the spacing advice, I added some more space, and here's the result:

(http://i.imgur.com/CLjmBsm.jpg)
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: Kris Jasra on May 30, 2016, 04:58 AM
They look like they'll be alright at that length providing you have a good size girth/sash and cod plate. But they still look too wide for your frame.

(http://i.imgur.com/flc9NpB.jpg)

That is the pic that had me worried - template over plate that looks like you're planning to trim off a cm or so from the bottom of the collar plate.
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: Yodamann on May 30, 2016, 05:02 PM
They look like they'll be alright at that length providing you have a good size girth/sash and cod plate. But they still look too wide for your frame.

That is the pic that had me worried - template over plate that looks like you're planning to trim off a cm or so from the bottom of the collar plate.

So I should just trim the sides  and top of the collar plate, and then see where I am?
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: Kris Jasra on May 30, 2016, 06:35 PM
Aye width only. You do not want to take any height of any of those.
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: Yodamann on Jun 09, 2016, 09:24 PM
Here we go, I've got some new templates, and I think these might be the ones. But what do I know?

Anywho, here they are:

(http://i.imgur.com/6lctu1x.jpg)

I added some length to the "prongs" on the collar, and I narrowed the 5'9" templates by about 10% while maintaining height. Hooray for online tools!

So now they reach the ol' BB and I can cross my arms. I guess I also need to trim the sides of the collar plate, but that can wait until I have chest/belly plates that fit.
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: Cin Vhe'rang on Jun 09, 2016, 11:31 PM
Tragically, the top of the collar (ie, the part against your neck) is now too low.
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: Kris Jasra on Jun 10, 2016, 05:23 AM
Aye, trim the outside edge of the collar to match the chest width and add half a cm to the inside edge of the collar plate and you have a winner.
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: Yodamann on Jun 10, 2016, 09:55 PM
Here we go, new collar plate, now with added interior area!
(http://i.imgur.com/SKIkozA.jpg)

And just look at that fit!
(http://i.imgur.com/dFl13Pw.jpg)

If this is looking good, I think I can start trimming the actual plates tomorrow.
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: Kris Jasra on Jun 11, 2016, 05:35 AM
Yup. Looks good.
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: Yodamann on Jun 11, 2016, 05:18 PM
So today, I got to trimming. As my existing collar plate couldn't be trimmed, I re-purposed my existing back plate (also not trim worthy).

Here's what I've got now:
(http://i.imgur.com/E6GCY9Y.jpg)

I'm thinking I'll use what are now the backs of the painted plates as the backs, as they got a few nicks on the from in the process of cutting them out.

Now for my gauntlets, I was thinking of putting some plates on them, kind of like this: http://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/index.php?topic=5332.msg516643#msg516643

I was wondering if I could use shoulder bell shapes as the extra plates, or if that was against the CRLs.
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: Kris Jasra on Jun 11, 2016, 05:30 PM
Shoulders must be shoulders only. Shoulders should not be gauntlets, knees, ab plates or anything else :P
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: Yodamann on Jun 16, 2016, 11:40 PM
I kinda figured that would be the answer about the shoulders, but it couldn't hurt to ask.

Anywho, I got some more cutting done tonight:

Shoulders have been resized:
(http://i.imgur.com/rCIXL4T.jpg)

And I got the back plate cut out. I just need to sand the edges.
(http://i.imgur.com/OxearV4.jpg)

Plan for the weekend is to sand the backplate, and make a pattern for a flak vest.

On a somewhat related note, how are my existing leg plates/cod size-wise?
(http://i.imgur.com/zII2bT8.jpg)
(reposting image for convenience)
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: Kris Jasra on Jun 17, 2016, 06:13 AM
Trim about half an inch of the bottom of the shins and drop them down and trim about the same from the bottom of the thighs and don't move them. That should give you enough room to fit your knees in. You may decide to trim a little more off the shins for better fit/comfort and to stop them dropping and clipping the knees - but that decision will be better made when the knees are in place.
Size of the cod looks fine :)
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: Yodamann on Jun 24, 2016, 12:34 AM
Tonight I flattened out my leg plates and marked out the areas to cut. I thought I would get some input from here before I cut, what with the finality of the rotary cutter and all.

So without further ado... pictures!

(http://i.imgur.com/tlZNzce.jpg)
all the plates laid out. You can also see my work sandals in this one.

(http://i.imgur.com/mtIx1d8.jpg)
Shin one. I measured out 1.5cm from the bottom and marked the line with a pencil.

(http://i.imgur.com/uoZrO7E.jpg)
This one was more connect the dots, as curves are harder to measure off of.

(http://i.imgur.com/uoZrO7E.jpg)
Shin two. Not much to say here.

(http://i.imgur.com/REmd5DA.jpg)
Thigh II. Once the other thigh is cut, I'll use it as a template so that the curves are the same across both plates. I was just eyeballing the last one, and so I didn't trust myself to get the shape identical without some help.


Is this enough of a cut?
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: Kris Jasra on Jun 24, 2016, 05:44 AM
That's about the amount I'd cut.
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: Yodamann on Jul 01, 2016, 10:35 PM
I've got some moderate progress to report! First of all, I'm done cutting down my old sintra plates! Man, do I wish I did this right the first time...

Anyway, let's do pictures now.

(http://i.imgur.com/9ufR25C.jpg)

Thigs, shins and shin extras are cut down. I sanded down the cod because I want to repaint with some weathering in the stripe. I also sanded down the shin extras and cod extra for the same reason.

(http://i.imgur.com/Jeq5XaR.jpg)

This is what I'm thinking of removing from the gauntlet. I used the advice given by Kavryn way back on page 2 as a guide.

(http://i.imgur.com/fc8TslC.jpg)

Finally, my knees. I never got these attached last time, so I'm left wondering if they are an okay size?


One last question, what is the best way to attach the extra bits to the cod/shins? Bondo? a different putty? I'm pretty sure hot glue is right out, but aside from that, I have little to no idea what to do.
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: Evaar'la Kal on Jul 02, 2016, 01:01 AM
Knees look okay from this angle, but you might want to tape them on and stand up just to be sure.  As for the cod/shins, when I did my shins I just JB weld to stick down the flat pieces, and then used bondo to fill the 'cracks' along the sides.  Progress is looking good so far.

Also, I noticed that we are in the same clan territory!  Have you connected with our facebook group?
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: Yodamann on Jul 03, 2016, 12:06 AM
Thanks for the tip! I've liked the page, but I've not seen much about upcoming events.

Unrelated question:

Last summer, I bought a HSP helmet, and it won't quite fit over my head. I found this (http://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/index.php?topic=95080.msg1384641#msg1384641) and plan to use it as a guide, but I have one question before I begin. If I put my helmet in the boiling water, will there be a residue left in the pot? I know resin isn't a good thing to breathe, so I'm pretty sure it's a bad thing to eat. Also, would the repeated heating/rapid cooling make the helmet brittle? My brother is a bit of a Titanic nut and mentioned that rapid cooling was essentially what sank the boat so I thought I'd ask here.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: Evaar'la Kal on Jul 03, 2016, 02:26 AM
Hmm, for helmet related questions you'll probably get the most accurate answers asking in the helmet threads.  About residue though, you can always just bleach your pot after to get rid of anything nasty
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: Yodamann on Jul 19, 2016, 12:09 AM
After a few weeks of doing some helmet work and soft parts work (see signature for shameless cross promotion), I have put a bit more time into my plates. Tonight was a first pass at shaping most of the plates.

(http://i.imgur.com/vNiNVCY.jpg)
All the plates I did tonight. The cod is just about the only thing I did right last time, so not much to do there. I didn't do the back or shins, since I think I need some tips. I've no idea where to start for the back, and for the shins, I was wondering how best to shape them and attach the trauma plate. I have some JB weld and bondo, but aside from the supplies, I've no idea what to do next. So any help there would be appreciated.

(http://i.imgur.com/ui45Bui.jpg)
Chest plate. I was trying to show that I got some mild curvature in the vertical direction too. I think it turned out pretty well.

(http://i.imgur.com/K1VlDJZ.jpg)
Shoulder curvature. As luck would have it, there was a roll of toilet paper that looked to be about the right curvature. It fits over my shoulder with some room to spare. Is that how they are supposed to fit?

(http://i.imgur.com/Rbs8hll.jpg)
Curve of the side of the collar plate. I feel like I might have gone overboard here.

(http://i.imgur.com/vyeH9VY.jpg)
Thigh curve. This one I'm happy with.

(http://i.imgur.com/qKRBc6i.jpg)
And finally, the curve of the belly plate.


If anyone has some tips on shaping, I'm more than happy to hear them.
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: Yodamann on Jul 24, 2016, 11:59 PM
Here we go, I've got some more progress for y'all!


(http://imgur.com/6Z3T4Uo.jpg)
First up, I JB Welded my codpiece together. I picked up the mini clamps at a garage sale earlier this year. A great move, if I do say so myself.

(http://imgur.com/aZm0s53.jpg)
Next, I did some preliminary shaping on my shins. How's it look?

The rest of this is really just going to be more pictures of the shins, so let my just say now that I welcome any and all comments about the shaping.

(http://imgur.com/lorI1bT.jpg)

(http://imgur.com/YW7VYI4.jpg)
Left
(http://imgur.com/eluAWnY.jpg)
Right

EDIT: fixed image links
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: Kris Jasra on Jul 25, 2016, 06:07 AM
Looks good to me.
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: Yodamann on Aug 20, 2016, 12:48 PM
Sorry for the lack of updates; I was on a bit of a trip. Also, I do most of my work in the evenings, and the putty I bought needs UV light to cure. Seems like that might have been a bad idea.


On to the update!

(http://i.imgur.com/e92hqT4.jpg)
I got the extra bit attached and mostly puttied up. Got the first round of sanding done on this one too.
(http://i.imgur.com/ab1TbkF.jpg)
Sorry about the blur, but I don't want to get up to take a new picture. Lotta putty up there.

(http://i.imgur.com/9gA12PX.jpg)
More putty.

I hope to get more updates pushed out before the end of the weekend. Ideally, I'll get some paint down on some plates before I go back to work on Monday.


EDIT:

I figured I was all sanded up, so it was time to paint!
(http://i.imgur.com/C75T7Rx.jpg)
All laid out, ready for the paint.

(http://i.imgur.com/MpOl4Kj.jpg)
Got two coats down on the plates.

(http://i.imgur.com/b2pLN0K.jpg)
Alas, I was apparently too eager to paint, as a bunch of scratches showed up. Looks like I've got a bit more work to do.

(http://i.imgur.com/Pawnx37.jpg)
More scratches to buff out on this piece too

Thanks for checking out my build!
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: NiteWolf on Aug 23, 2016, 12:27 AM
They are not scratchy they are battle damage. When I was cutting out my armor the other day I was using a rough slab of concrete to as my work surface and didn't thing about it at that time then I lifted the cut piece up and noticed the little scratch sand dents all over and decided to make that the face of the armor
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: Kris Jasra on Aug 23, 2016, 06:01 AM
We have a stock answer for scratches like that - weathering. I'd run with it. I have several paintjobs layered over the previous ones and there's a huge amount of chips and dents in the paint from previous scratches that all show through. It just adds to the history and character of the armour.
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: Yodamann on Aug 23, 2016, 12:45 PM
Fair enough! Should I add a few more scratches? The rest of the plates are pretty smooth.
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: Kris Jasra on Aug 23, 2016, 05:07 PM
You could make them match a bit more, or perhaps paint a different undercolour on the more scratched one so more layers show though on the weathering so they look older.
Consistent weathering is hard to define because you can have some plates more scratched than others and have it work. You just need to show why they're more damaged. I have a side only blast - my left side is near stripped, my right side is much closer to perfect paint job still. Older plates are the usual other reason and different undercolours helps to show they've been repainted more times. Just remember to keep the dirt levels the same across them all because no matter how old the plates are they all went through the swamp last week.
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: Yodamann on Sep 05, 2016, 10:04 PM
Despite the lack of posts, I have been making progress!
I decided to scuff up my other plates a bit, by doing a couple swipes with a coarse grit sandpaper, then doing a few passes with a finer grit. I think it turned out pretty well. I also got the silver base layer down, and got my blue stripe applied. As part of the weathering, I used mustard as a masking fluid to get scratches. It was the first time I'd used yellow mustard for anything in years (I'm a Spicy mustard man). Anyway, you don't have to take my word for it, I've brought pictures!

(http://i.imgur.com/C75T7Rx.jpg)
Before paint

(http://i.imgur.com/MpOl4Kj.jpg)
After a few coats of silver

(http://i.imgur.com/aGVjTmC.jpg)
Mustard
(http://i.imgur.com/eT1UWZc.jpg)
More mustard
(http://i.imgur.com/P9QLFQD.jpg)
Even more mustard
(http://i.imgur.com/Uokj7QE.jpg)
Yet more mustard

(http://i.imgur.com/oBmAnoS.jpg)
The (more or less) current state of affairs. I've got a few coats of blue down, and now I'm just letting the paint dry. I'll take the mustard off tomorrow morning.
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: Hanjo Solba on Sep 07, 2016, 03:52 PM
I always used tooth paste for the weathering that way i can purposely leave some under the paint if i want to modify the weathering after the fact.  No fear of weird smells or anything.  Do you see any benefit from using mustard?  I would think it would get everywhere haha  I know my tooth paste always does.   :laugh:
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: Yodamann on Sep 08, 2016, 12:42 AM
Well, I think the mustard is a bit easier to spread than the toothpaste would be, and I'm pretty sure I got all of it out, so no smells there. As for results, I took the masking off today, so I'll let some pictures do the talking:

(http://i.imgur.com/fms11MM.jpg)
a layout with all the weathered bits. I added in the extra chest plate because it looked... wrong just having the one plate.
The water droplets are from rinsing the plates off with the garden hose to get rid of any excess mustard/loose paint.
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: Yodamann on Sep 20, 2016, 04:19 PM
What it do everybody, I've got some pictures to show off.

Let's get to it.

(http://i.imgur.com/9LwcbvD.jpg)
I cut down my gauntlet and sanded those suckers down. No bumpy wrists for me. And now, I can move my arms comfortably.

(http://i.imgur.com/OD4rXC5.jpg)
Here's what was lost.

Next step: painting
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: Yodamann on Sep 27, 2016, 12:01 PM
My local clan had a bit of an armor party over the weekend, and now I've got a shaped back plate!
(http://i.imgur.com/G0FxqqO.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/6JyhyuQ.jpg)

Big thanks to my Alor'ad, Kranix for all his help with the shaping. I also got some tips on my flak vest, but that progress hasn't been documented... yet.

Next steps with for the armour are painting my gauntlets, getting the velcro on the backs of the plates, adjusting the shoulders of the back plate/some sanding and filling, and then painting the back plate.
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: Yodamann on Oct 24, 2016, 10:25 AM
After a some time working on my soft parts and helmet,  (see helmet thread for deets, ooh yeah, that's some smooth cross-promotion) I have returned to armour work.

(http://i.imgur.com/wqNg3H3.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/T6egkO2.jpg)
First of all, I did some filling on the backplate, so now those cracks are gone.

(http://i.imgur.com/eoTUeeir.jpg)
Now that my vest is done, I put out a test layout of my plates. How's this look? I've got a pillow in there acting as a stand in for my torso.
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: Kris Jasra on Oct 24, 2016, 12:18 PM
rotate the tops of the chest plates inwards just a hairswidth and shift the ab plate upwards a tiny bit and that'll be the spacing you're aiming for :)
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: Yodamann on Oct 25, 2016, 09:26 AM
How's this look?
(http://i.imgur.com/nN8b8om.jpg)

They're attached with velcro, so there is some wiggle room for the placement.
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: Kris Jasra on Oct 25, 2016, 11:35 AM
Looks pretty good to me. I'd get the rest of the flightsuiot and belts in place and then have another person take a straight on shot just to check for any last minute tweaks as that can shift plates around, but until you have all the others layers on to check I'd say they look pretty done.
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: Yodamann on Oct 31, 2016, 12:23 AM
So this weekend was the Comic Con, and I managed to get my kit pretty wearable in time. I had a last minute push to get a visor in my helmet and some paint down too. Also, I had some velcro to add to the flight suit. All in all, it turned out pretty well:

(http://i.imgur.com/uSdc6qi.jpg)

First off, I know I'm missing the chest diamond. I... just kinda forgot about it, and only found it the night before the con. So I didn't have time to paint it and add in the attachment. I also still need some knees (the ones I cut out were too small), and I forgot my boots at home, so I had to stick with the comfy sneakers for the length of the con.

Aside from that, how's it looking? I feel like the thighs are too low, and maybe the shoulders droop too much?
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: Kris Jasra on Oct 31, 2016, 07:50 AM
Not bad at all for a first con kit up :)

Thighs look both oversized and drooping - I tend to attach mine to my cod/kama belt to help keep them from obeying gravity.
Shoulders look like they may be rolled around to the back a little to much. But pulling them up may help - you look pretty slim so the helmet looks a little oversized - wearing the shoulders a touch higher so they are a little more horizontal can add to your shoulder width and help offset the slight bobblehead look.
Only other thing you didn't mention is still needing a girth belt.
Other than that - just what you've already seen.
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: Yodamann on Oct 31, 2016, 04:38 PM
On the thighs: are they just low, or pulling away from the flightsuit? Also, in what way are they oversized? Too wide, too tall, or both?
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: Kris Jasra on Nov 01, 2016, 03:03 AM
Too low - they could do with being pulled up an inch, inch and a half.
That still looks like it won't really give you enough room to add in your knees without everything overlapping so they'll more than likely need a small trim on the height as a minimum.
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: Yodamann on Nov 05, 2017, 11:31 PM
Well, in the roughly 12 months since the last post, I've made some progress.

First of all, I got my backplate mostly shaped and a first layer of paint has been applied:

(https://i.imgur.com/eTJnIJX.jpg)

I've also got some knee plates ready for attachment:
(https://i.imgur.com/JzN7hH7.jpg)

Finally, I also did a black wash pass on all my plates as a start for the weathering process.

On the helmet end of things, I've attached the rangefinder, and did a lot of filling and sanding and filling and sanding and filling and sanding.

So here's the state of the kit currently:
(https://i.imgur.com/uTnCdPV.jpg)

I should have more time to work on this now that I'm out of university. My current (non-helmet) to-do list is:

-Sew on attachments for knees
-widen curve on shin plates so they fit over my boots
-add straps to shin plates
-adjust shoulder bell placement
-find a girth belt
-attach back plate to vest
-get/make a better pistol
-get holster for new blaster


any tips for the things on my list, and/or things I missed? In particular, what is the best way to attach the straps to the shin plates? It seems like epoxy would just pop right off.
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: Yodamann on Mar 18, 2018, 10:10 PM
Back from the dead, it's this thread! After a winter of planning and wishing the Canadian winter was more conducive to painting, I've returned.

Not too much to show right now, I've been giving my gauntlets some thought. As it stands, they're just bare "durasteel/Beskar" tubes on my forearms. I was browsing Thingiverse and came upon this (https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:69800) model on thingiverse of a rebel pilot comm pad. I thought I could print it out, bondo it up onto a gauntlet, add some blinky LEDs, maybe some interactivity, and baby, you got a stew going.

Long story short, I printed it out, and here's the test

(https://i.imgur.com/HCfGMkU.jpg)

Is using a part from a different costume a problem for approval?
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: Kris Jasra on Mar 19, 2018, 05:51 AM
It depends on the costume you're taking from. If you wish to use technology which is mass produced - ie a rebel comm pad, then that's fine. There's plenty of places to have picked one up from. We just suggest adding a unique paint job to make it yours rather than copying the paint designs the Rebels used. So basically - avoid any items which are specific to a character, such as the mods to Han's blaster. You can have the blaster, but not his changes to it.
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: Straka Zulu on Mar 19, 2018, 06:56 AM
Paint it up to match your colors, and you're good.

Thingiverse has been a goldmine for me lately, printed up a set of thermal detonators, and some parts that will eventually wind up on my gauntlets.
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: Yodamann on Mar 20, 2018, 11:50 AM
It really is a great source for greebles and little bits.
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: Yodamann on Mar 22, 2018, 09:26 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/kRsDmzj.jpg)

After an unfortunate run-in with a falling box, my back plate seems to be offering considerably less protection than I would normally like it to. That is to say, it's got a bloody great crack down the side. My question is: how do I fix it? I was thinking super glue the crack back and then reinforce the back with some e6000 and stick another piece of sintra down to make it secure.
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: Sep Ho'ban on Mar 22, 2018, 09:30 PM
either sintra or fiberglass the back of the crack and surrounding area, and all the e6000, yes.  Spot putty to smooth the crack if you need to after sanding.
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: Kris Jasra on Mar 23, 2018, 07:05 AM
Yep all the glue and reinforce with another bit of sintra, or fibreglass and resin. For the front either putty or bondo into any remaining crack and sand till smooth. Or alternatively turn the crack into 3D damage by adjusting it to appear to be a knife slash or lightsabre burn.
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: bluecwsoldier3 on Mar 23, 2018, 09:10 AM
Bummer, but once you fix it, you can definitely make it some sort of battle damage.
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: Yodamann on Mar 24, 2018, 03:18 PM
Thanks for the tips! How exactly would I go about making it look more like battle damage? Would that be putting putty around the crack instead of into it?
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: Kris Jasra on Mar 24, 2018, 05:53 PM
For a knife blade I'd just take a file to the edges of the crack once the back is fully reinforced and smooth the edges so it looks like something sharp has sliced into it rather than the slightly jagged edges it's cracked with.
For a lightsabre burn I'd use putty to fill the crack but not worry as much about sanding it flat, just make sure it's smoothed down, so small waves and bumps I'd just leave, then I'd add more putty along both edges to add a melted effect on the edges.

And don't forget to continue the damage on the soft parts :)
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: Straka Zulu on Mar 24, 2018, 06:24 PM
Had my wife's boot armor crack, so I glued it back together, and painted it up to look like a field repair weld. I'll post a pic if you would like to see it. ;D
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: Yodamann on Mar 26, 2018, 09:56 AM
A picture should be great! Thanks!
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: Yodamann on May 21, 2018, 01:04 AM
Well, the weather has turned, and I spent some time today starting the patch job.

I superglued the crack back together, then I added the tape, just to be extra secure until the extra trauma plate was added.
(https://i.imgur.com/BIrkKw0.jpg)

once the glue had set, I put down some e6000 around the worst of the crack and heated up a scrap piece of sintra until it was nice and floppy. I pressed it down so that it would mimic the shape of the back plate, and let it cool. I might add some more down the rest of the crack just to be extra confident.
(https://i.imgur.com/PM3T0rH.jpg)
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: Yodamann on Jul 29, 2018, 11:15 PM
In the... long time since the last post, I've made some progress.

I bought some proper Bondo, and repaired the crack completely:

(https://i.imgur.com/SdblOH6.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/zFIGJiw.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/UyU3SAu.jpg)

I've got the base coat back on, so I'm back to where I started.


Today was also an armour party, and so I was able to get some help with placement.

(https://i.imgur.com/lZ6AhAe.jpg)

I had some help tracing out where the back plate sat on my back, and then I was able to mark out where the velcro attachment points will go. I hope to sew the velcro on before the next armour party so that I can get that together at that point. Once that's all ready to go, I can get the stripe on, an weather it to match the rest of my plates.
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: Yodamann on Oct 14, 2018, 01:31 AM
So only two and a half months between posts this time, so that's something.

Anyway, I accomplished my goal w/r/t back plate attachment. I got all the velcro on, and at the next party I got the back plate attached. While it was being attached, we noticed that the "prongs" didn't match up with my collar plate. So a straight line was marked on with a pencil, and I used my trusty rotary tool to cut off the excess. Then it was a bit of sanding and lick of paint, and my back plate was good to go.

I didn't really take any pictures of that, so you guys'll have to take my word for it.

I also got some work done improving the attachment of my shin plates. Until now, it's just been velcro on my flightsuit that's kept them in place, but I found that they were flopping in the breeze, so I picked up some webbing and looping hardware, and fashioned some straps!

(https://i.imgur.com/CRzdqKF.jpg)

I made four (two for each side)

(https://i.imgur.com/QhKKYsv.jpg?1)

Now I just need to attach the straps to my sintra. I'm thinking superglue the webbing down, and then put attach a small piece of sintra over that with e6000 or something to really stick it down. Any tips on attachment?

That's all for now, hopefully I'll be back sooner next time!
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: Yodamann on Oct 21, 2018, 09:10 PM
After some discussion with members of my clan, I changed the plan from superglue to e6000ing the straps.

(https://i.imgur.com/LeKYvbB.jpg)

I scored the sintra first to give the e6000 something more to grab onto

(https://i.imgur.com/XXrFiEx.jpg)

Then I put down the straps and clamped them in place.

Next I'll wait for this to cure, and then check out the strength. I think regardless of how that turns out, I'll reinforce with a sheet of sintra e6000'd over the strap.
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: Yodamann on Oct 29, 2018, 07:43 PM
After the e6000 cured, I did a quick fit test, and everything seemed good. However, one strap was coming loose, so I went ahead and reapplied the e6000. While that set, I got ready to reinforce the stuff:

(https://i.imgur.com/dp9ekPp.jpg)

I cut out some rectangles of sintra, and scored one side with an xacto knife. I also scored the back of the shin pad to give more surface area. I dumped a bunch of e6000 down where the reinforcement would go, and then heated up the rectangles one at a time. Once they were good and floppy, I would place it where it needed to go and hold it until it hardened. I also put some restraints down to keep it secure:

[img]https://i.imgur.com/FhJMRzs.jpg[.img]

After a bit, I did a quick pull tests, and it seemed pretty solid. I'm gonna call the shin plates done.

I've gotta do the same to my knees, and finish painting the back plate, and then my armour plates are all done, barring any requested tweaks.
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: Yodamann on Nov 14, 2018, 04:44 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/xdVXRp6.jpg)

Just a short "state of the Union" post. Here's where my plates are at. Does anything stick out as obviously wrong? The shoulders seem to stick out a bit. Also, I just got the girth belt on, so how's that looking?
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: Bryn Cin'Prudii on Nov 14, 2018, 05:06 PM
Ab plate looks a little tall. Everything else looks fitted right. Maybe a small trim of the tops of the chest plates.

You'll want to tailor the sleeves and legs of the flight suit to hug your body closer.
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: Havelock on Nov 14, 2018, 06:43 PM
Your thigh plates will need to come up so they don't collide with your (not pictured  :P) knee plates.  They might even wind up needing a trim - we'll need to see all the bits on you to be sure.
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: Darasuum Prudii on Nov 14, 2018, 07:40 PM
Thighs look a hair too large for you body. I think those may need sized down. You chest armor and belly armor looks good over all size but the placement and trim of the plates will need fine tuned. About a thumbs width between collar and chest armor and a thumbs width between belly armor and chest. Main thing is a consistent gap around the plates.
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: Straka Zulu on Nov 14, 2018, 08:37 PM
The shoulders are fine. 
As the others have said, the ab plate is a bit tall, and a very slight trim to the outside edges of the chest plates.
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: Malakier Vhett on Nov 14, 2018, 09:41 PM
Regarding the thigh plates, besides being a bit too large (add knees and you'll see how much too big), they are technically rotated too far forward and on the wrong legs :P the cut out isn't for the cod, it's so the armor doesn't interfere with grabbing the grip of your pistols. That said, lots of people wear them as you have them :D. I think everyone has pointed out the other issues I see. You're on the right track, keep up the good work.
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: Yodamann on Nov 15, 2018, 12:00 AM
Thanks for the tips everyone! Just a few clarification questions:

Regarding the ab plate: shave off some material from the bottom? Line 1-2cm?

Regarding the chest plates: shave off from the top extended part to match with the collar plate? Should the whole side be cut down?

Regarding the tailoring: I've got gauntlets and shin plates, so do they really need to your that much?

Regarding the thighs: wow, I really had no idea. I'll have to take a closer look at Jango
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: Yodamann on Feb 09, 2019, 07:45 PM
Despite the winter cold, I have a bit of an update!

First of all, when I was planning out the paint job on my bucket, I figured two colours wasn't quite enough, so I did a slight revamp to the colour scheme:
(https://i.imgur.com/dc3OjAX.png)

I'm thinking of  ditching the stripe, and going more for some layering on the paint. that being said, I'm not quite locked in colour blocking... I'd appreciate some input between the two options (or some combination of elements of them)


(https://i.imgur.com/4tms7mV.jpg?1)

Applying a coat of white paint to the back plate and bucket. This time I used tooth paste as the masking fluid. We'll see how it compares to mustard when the time comes to remove it.
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: KaylinSilverfurr on Feb 10, 2019, 11:11 PM
Commenting to follow. Keep at it Ben, and if you can make the next armour party, I hope to see you there with some things we can work on.

~Shauna
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: Yodamann on Apr 14, 2019, 09:39 PM
I'm back with some mild progress!


In the interest of redoing the paint scheme on my plates, I've stripped the existing paint from them:

(https://i.imgur.com/emn30vp.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/NnRfsFC.jpg)

And I got a coat of primer down on some of the plates.

(https://i.imgur.com/6HAg5CI.jpg)



Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: Yodamann on Apr 20, 2019, 09:43 PM
I had a somewhat revolutionary idea... I'd do a computer mockup of the paint job instead of having a rough idea and plowing ahead.

So, I present my (probably) final colour scheme!

(https://i.imgur.com/0dxxc81.png)

I also got some primer down on the parts I stripped last weekend, and got the primed parts wetsanded, so it's almost time for base metal coats.
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: Evaar'la Kal on Apr 24, 2019, 02:48 PM
Very nice!  I like the asymmetrical look
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: Vor'en Marr on Apr 24, 2019, 03:40 PM
Love the rendering too. I think i changed my scheme 2 or 3 times before i settled.

Always better to try it out on paper before the expense of paint :-)
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: KaylinSilverfurr on May 05, 2019, 11:21 AM
Agreed. It took me at least three times before I settled on a paint job, and even then I ended up adding the yellow after I'd been approved.

Just know that of you need to make minor adjustment after your approval, just come talk to me. We will get you sorted.

~Shauna
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: Yodamann on Jul 11, 2019, 09:30 PM
I have been plugging away at this, but always neglecting to post.

In the time since my last post, I've done a lot of painting and sanding... I get the  base metal coat down, then when I apply the white paint, it crinkles up. I clean the plates with dish soap between colour changes... is that the right thing to do?

Anyway, it turns out it's all for the best, since at a recent armour party, I was trying to lock in my check plate placement, and it turns out there was some trimming and reshaping that needed to happen. My ruus'alor was very helpful with the shaping/trimming, but I'll need to wait for the next armour party to finish that up.

Moving onto parts that have been going better, I decided to beef up my gauntlets. On one, I'll have a sort of communications panel, with four "buttons" that will blink blue and white. The fun part is that the lights will show the (approximate) time. One colour will show the hour encoded as a 4 bit binary number, while the other colour will show progress through the hour.

(https://i.imgur.com/jIU8slk.png)

here's what I have so far for the right gauntlet.
I've done some preliminary tests, and the lights diffuse nicely through the "buttons" I have.

In the mean time, I hope to make some real progress on my helmet before the next armour party, Let's all hope that the paint doesn't crinkle.
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: KaylinSilverfurr on Jul 11, 2019, 11:44 PM
I'm excited to see this come together.

And I'm more than happy to help. See you again August 3rd.... and I expect cookies this time.

~Shauna
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: Kris Jasra on Jul 12, 2019, 05:45 AM
This may or may not help as we have different paint types and climates, however this is what I've found works best for me: I run some very fine sandpaper over my base coat - just enough to stop the surface being completely smooth so the next paint layer will adhere top it, not enough to scratch through the paint. I then wipe over with a damp papertowel to remove the dust - not wet enough to drip and nothing but water. Any type of soap could leave a residue which could be stopping paint adhering. I then leave the item alone for at least a day - this allows the base paint layer to fully degas and the remaining dampness to dry. Only then do I paint the next colour on, making sure it's done in thin layers with a 15-30 minute wait time between each thin layer. With the paints i use trying to get a nice thick even cover with the first run of colour just creates a thick rubbery, wrinkly mess that peels back off. Thin layers can dry properly.
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: Yodamann on Jul 12, 2019, 11:15 PM
Thanks for the tip about the dish soap. Funny, I thought that the soap would take away the residue. I'll also do some experiments with lightly sanding, see what comes of that.
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: Kris Jasra on Jul 13, 2019, 06:15 AM
Some soaps contain an almost oily layer which I think is what stops adherence. Which may be why some are good for using and some aren't. I've never worked out which is which though so just stay away from them all just in case.
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: Sep Ho'ban on Jul 13, 2019, 09:54 AM
Blue Dawn dish soap seems to work without leave by any residue. It's also what they use on birds in oil spills.
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: Yodamann on Jul 13, 2019, 07:00 PM
W/R/T Soap, I was using Dawn Ultra. Maybe I wasn't doing a good enough job rinsing it off.

I managed to get some primer on my bucket without crinkling, so let's hope that that's an omen of no more crinkling. I'm getting sick of sanding off messed up paint.
(https://i.imgur.com/dr5Ujyl.jpg)

I also printed out a test print for the gauntlet topper:
(https://i.imgur.com/cB73AKT.jpg)

Does it look a bit tall?

Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: Yodamann on Aug 05, 2019, 06:25 PM
Hooray for necroposting!

Update w/r/t chest plate mods:
(https://i.imgur.com/EU3jjbb.jpg)

And the bucket is back to silver:

(https://i.imgur.com/fBfXBv4.jpg)

Most of this weekend's work has been on the blaster, progress for that can be found on my weapon thread.
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: Kol Hokan on Aug 06, 2019, 06:54 PM
Nah, July to August of the same year is not necroposting.  You're fine.

Looks like some good progress, but you'll want to revisit the ab plate. It is unfortunately far too tall. CRLs state that standard Modern style ab plates need to have a height ratio cannot exceed 2/3 of the total width.

I would strongly recommend cutting down the tabs on your chest plates to give your more room to work with and then trimming down the ab plate to the proper size (red).  Then, of course, bring up the whole ab so you have about a thumbs width between the ab and the chest plates (blue).

I made a quick alteration to your photo to help show what I'm talking about.  Hope this helps!

(https://i.ibb.co/P5FJ6dM/68667-E6-A-25-E4-40-AC-9514-4-A6-D66-E0147-F.jpg)

Your collar looks a bit wonky too. If you haven't met up with your local Ruus'alor or another clanmate, I suggest you do so.  Sometimes two hands is better than one, especially on plates like collars and  backplates. 
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: KaylinSilverfurr on Aug 06, 2019, 07:27 PM
Nah, July to August of the same year is not necroposting.  You're fine.

Looks like some good progress, but you'll want to revisit the ab plate. It is unfortunately far too tall. CRLs state that standard Modern style ab plates need to have a height ratio cannot exceed 2/3 of the total width.

I would strongly recommend cutting down the tabs on your chest plates to give your more room to work with and then trimming down the ab plate to the proper size (red).  Then, of course, bring up the whole ab so you have about a thumbs width between the ab and the chest plates (blue).

I made a quick alteration to your photo to help show what I'm talking about.  Hope this helps!

(https://i.ibb.co/P5FJ6dM/68667-E6-A-25-E4-40-AC-9514-4-A6-D66-E0147-F.jpg)

Your collar looks a bit wonky too. If you haven't met up with your local Ruus'alor or another clanmate, I suggest you do so.  Sometimes two hands is better than one, especially on plates like collars and  backplates.

Yup, we're working on it as best we can. I want to help him get the neck plate finished first before everything else, and we know the ab plate needs to be revisited. I tend to work from neck plate and work my way down, and I instruct my UM's to do the same. If only because everything else is dependant on the neck plate anyway.

~Shauna
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: Rhysal on Aug 07, 2019, 01:16 PM
Commenting to following! Thanks for bringing cookies last time, they were really good!  ;D
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: Yodamann on Aug 17, 2019, 06:51 PM
I'll leave off the plates until the next armour party. In the mean time, I got the white coat down on my helmet, and there was no crinkling!

(https://imgur.com/u6OYuwa)

Before the paint

(https://imgur.com/AJnFh3V)

Post-paint. Maybe the weather was just perfect today, but no crinkles to be seen.
Hopefully I won't need to strip this down to the resin again.
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: Yodamann on Sep 04, 2019, 06:53 PM
Well, we had another armour party over the weekend, and the plan was to get all the chest plates shaped and positioned.

That was the plan.

As it turned out, the plates were much too small, so I printed out some templates of a more appropriate size. I just hope the back plate is still sized right.

I'll pick up a hot knife this week, and hopefully get these new plates cut out over the weekend. 
Title: Re: Yodamann's Sintra WIP
Post by: Yodamann on Sep 15, 2019, 09:50 PM
I think (hope) the painting is done on the helmet!


(https://imgur.com/Pyt2k13)
The masking

(https://imgur.com/nJr9nho)
The grey coat

(https://imgur.com/vPY9dv7)
And the blue!

All the paint seems to have gone on nicely, all that remains is to pull off the masking and hope that I did a good enough job.