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 Vibro-Axe and Blaster Pistol WIP

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Vibro-Axe and Blaster Pistol WIP
« on: Dec 21, 2015, 05:01 PM »
Good afternoon all, I am working on a paired set of one-handed Vibro-axes. I'm new here, and this is my first Mando build. While I wait for responses from the various sellers and makers of goods I have contacted here for my armor parts, I decided to start on some of the equipment that my Mando will be carrying.

The plan is for dual-wielded hand axes when in CQC, sniper rifle from afar, and a blaster pistol sidearm in other circumstances.

A helpful vod here suggested using PVC piping as a base for the melee weapons and it was a great idea, better than the all-EVA foam prop design I had in mind. So off to Lowes we go and now here we are.

This is the detailed design for the weapons. The idea is that the power source in the pommel/base of the axe produces Vibro-energy upon activation. The sleeve-like vibration conduit distributes the energy upwards to the business end of the weapon and a circuit focuses additional vibro-energy into the head and blade via the diffusers. 



The design incorporates a front handguard and a rear parrying quillon for protection. The handle is wrapped in leather or hide.
In practical terms I will be purchasing leatherette or something similar from a fabric shop to wrap the handle. The circuit will be made with plain old black electrical wire. The PVC base is shown below:



I will be adding greeblies to the pommel and other areas and likely giving the pommel more mass via putty or something similar. The "sleeve" I will be making out of either another, larger PVC pipe section cut down and sanded to finish, or if that proves impractical I may use some EVA foam.

The axe "blade" will be made by drilling through the top section of the shaft and threading an appropriate thickness of armature wire through for a guide and for reinforcement. The actual blade will be two halves made with EVA foam glued together with the armature wire in the center.



This should make the actual blade safe and sturdy enough to stand up to moderate play-fighting, should it need to be used. A false edge can be cut into the inner side of the avehead, for effect. Of course the rest of the work will be sanding down factory edges to create a worn look, installation of greeblies and other painted-on detail work, and final paintjob.

I do want to ask for opinions on the "vibro-circuit". Should the circuit be mirrored on both sides of the weapon so it appears identical from either side? or is an asymmetric look better? A third option is routing a single wire back and forth so that it appears on both sides of the weapon haft. Suggestions and feedback welcomed.

Thank you for reading this far!

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Re: Dual Vibro-Axes WIP
« Reply #1 on: Dec 21, 2015, 05:41 PM »
I've found that a source for cheap leather is Goodwill or the Salvation Army stores. Look for old beat up leather purses or coats. Purses are usually a few bucks each, a coat will be pricier.

Hobby Lobby also has a leather work section where you can buy bags of leather scraps in various colors.

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Re: Dual Vibro-Axes WIP
« Reply #2 on: Dec 22, 2015, 07:08 PM »
Some progress today, was brainstorming a few ideas and another visit to Lowes and this is what we have:



And for some idea of the scale and proportion of the axe heads:



Now, I have three handguard options, and some questions. The first two options are in the above image, which looks better? Keep in mind nothing is set in stone and of course everything will be painted, greeblied etc for more detail.

The third option is to make a handguard out of EVA foam, painted and reinforced with in internal wire for shape, and this handguard would be more rounded and possibly more organic-looking than the above examples, which are more industrial-looking. Unfortunately I can't make a an example build yet as I need to purchase some armature wire etc before I can make a mockup.

So I wanted to request feedback, which of the three would be best? OR, I could perhaps use two out of the three designs so each Axe was somewhat unique? Axehead and the rest of the weapon would be mostly identical, so the handguards have a chance to be differentiation.

Any thoughts?

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Re: Dual Vibro-Axes WIP
« Reply #3 on: Dec 22, 2015, 07:36 PM »
This is looking great vod. I would do one of each? You could taper the straight guard down to a point maybe to add some detail?
You could use wire used to tie fencing together as It's pretty strong for your wire, but I'd also suggest notching out the piping so you can feed the blade through. If you did that you could then notch out a bit of the cap so it slides down locking the blade in place.

Re: Dual Vibro-Axes WIP
« Reply #4 on: Dec 22, 2015, 07:46 PM »
This is looking great vod. I would do one of each? You could taper the straight guard down to a point maybe to add some detail?
You could use wire used to tie fencing together as It's pretty strong for your wire, but I'd also suggest notching out the piping so you can feed the blade through. If you did that you could then notch out a bit of the cap so it slides down locking the blade in place.

One vote for one of each!

But yes sir, I plan to dremel and bevel/round off all sharp, prefab-looking angles to get rid of the mass produced look. Drill holes, cut slots for greebs etc.

The notching idea is interesting and I will see what I can do to create that type of notch to feed the axehead through. I'm going to experiment some. Hopefully this weekend I should have a blade built and mounted for inspection and feedback. Thanks for the thoughts, vod!

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Re: Dual Vibro-Axes WIP
« Reply #5 on: Dec 22, 2015, 08:54 PM »
You can use a cutting disc on your dremel to notch it and sand it, sort of like this

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Re: Dual Vibro-Axes WIP
« Reply #6 on: Dec 23, 2015, 04:49 PM »
You can use a cutting disc on your dremel to notch it and sand it, sort of like this

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I follow you, vod. I'm going to try that if my original plan doesn't work out.

Speaking of which, I got some armature wire and some leather/suede strips and also finished cutting out the base axehead pieces. Again, nothing is permanently fastened, more of a test fit type deal.

Here is the axe with the wirebase and a closeup laid over the wire.



And here is the second axe with a test-hit "sleeve", I will probably have two sleeves on each haft, one resting inside the other, with the wire coming out of the sleeve. I also wanted the sleeve to be offset instead of perfectly aligned with the shaft, so it wasn't just a bunch of parallel shapes.



Next step is to actually install the axehead via armature and see how it fits and feels.Also need to create the inner sleeve and start thinking about details for the paintjob and also what greeblies to stall.

Thanks for the feedback and suggestions!

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Re: Dual Vibro-Axes WIP
« Reply #7 on: Dec 23, 2015, 05:43 PM »
Those look great vod! Love how these are shaping up so far!

Oya!

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Re: Dual Vibro-Axes WIP
« Reply #8 on: Dec 23, 2015, 06:01 PM »
Loving it! The sleeve looks fantastic and really ties it in.

Re: Dual Vibro-Axes WIP
« Reply #9 on: Dec 27, 2015, 05:46 PM »
Made some more additions over the holiday weekend. Here is the base axeblade showing the armature threaded through the haft.



Now, I added a false inner and front edge by sanding, I also cut out some styrene pieces for the "diffusers" on the blade itself. I also made a test piece for the inner sleeve and also test-fit the "vibro-wire" and its pattern on the haft.



Again, nothing is permanently secured or glued in as of yet.

Now, the plan is to have wire running up both sides of the haft and secure it with drops of hot glue at the bend points. I'm using just regular black primary wire for this. I think having wire on both sides will make the weapon look more real, and not just plain on one side.  I'm also going to finetune the shapes of the styrene on the blade. The lower wedge-shaped piece I'm not completely satisfied with. I'm also going to mount a styrene plate peice on either side of the PVC top cap, then seal and mold it in with Apoxie sculpt. I haven't decided on a final method of securing the back end of the armature wire, I'm planning to test JB Weld-Plasticweld, and also some Aves Apoxie, plus a possible technique that involves melting the wire into the PVC. After the wire is secured I can mount the rear spike of the axeblade over the wire to hide it fully.

After that it's the power switch, rear quillon, basecoat, adding greeblies and painting in details and so on. Still brainstorming what to make the rear quillon out of and also what greeblies to add, exactly.

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Re: Dual Vibro-Axes WIP
« Reply #10 on: Dec 27, 2015, 08:40 PM »
Lookin good vode

Re: Dual Vibro-Axes WIP
« Reply #11 on: Jan 02, 2016, 06:42 PM »
So while waiting on weather conditions to improve so I can paint, I've started working on my rifle and pistol.

Here are some cleaned up sketches, and the pistol design I'm going for in the end is the "C" design.



Here are a couple of test fits with different chamber widths, just to overall get the proportions in hand. Foam cutouts are just placeholder to give an idea of the shape.





Now, I'd like to ask for some feedback. It's a minor thing, but I'm trying to decide on the width of the chamber. The first pic has a chamber that is about the same size as the "power core" set behind it. The second pic has a larger chamber, thus offsetting the parts in front and behind it. I'm personally leaning towards the second, larger chamber because I like breaking up straight lines in what is essentially a series of tubes. But I wanted to know what other people thought, as I prefer to have sets of eyes looking at the project other than my own.

So what do you guys think? Same-sized chamber, or oversized chamber? I look forward to any feedback.

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Re: Dual Vibro-Axes and Blaster Pistol WIP
« Reply #12 on: Jan 02, 2016, 07:40 PM »
Option 2 look better to my taste, like you said it help breaking the general tube shape (essential when working with pipe) and give it a more bulky feeling.

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Re: Dual Vibro-Axes and Blaster Pistol WIP
« Reply #13 on: Jan 02, 2016, 11:29 PM »
I'm gonna have to go with the second one as well

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Re: Dual Vibro-Axes and Blaster Pistol WIP
« Reply #14 on: Jan 03, 2016, 02:01 AM »
Hey!  Looks kinda like the Calico kit-bashes from Episode 1!  I like! :D

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