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 Sep Ho'ban - Legacy Kit - WIP (Approved) and Upgrades

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Re: Sep Ho'ban - Legacy Kit - WIP (Approved) and Upgrades
« Reply #105 on: Jul 07, 2018, 11:05 PM »
Hello, my name is Sep, and I have a helmet addiction.... But I have a REASON! (after the fact justification).  I've decided to declare a major.  I'm going droid hunter, and I need extra helmet sensors to be BRL compliant, so I need an RF, and there's not a great way to mount one on the current bucket because the earcaps are so thin.  So... without further adieu -- the SepOwl Bucket: (I think I'm done modelling it... printing soon)



Currently rethinking the gauntlets, since I have to reprint them anyway.  They're a hair small, and my priorities for the kit have shifted a bit.  Good news is, the hammer fits with the BRL I am pursuing :)

that looks amazing vod

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Re: Sep Ho'ban - Legacy Kit - WIP (Approved) and Upgrades
« Reply #106 on: Jul 08, 2018, 02:42 AM »
Thanks!!

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Re: Sep Ho'ban - Legacy Kit - WIP (Approved) and Upgrades
« Reply #107 on: Jul 09, 2018, 10:55 AM »
Iterative rapid prototyping.   

So, I've been printing bits of this helmet pretty much since the last post.  What follows is the process of getting it right:

Front middle section of dome and brow ridge -- original scale:

This one was too snug, and I had concerns about my ears chafing

110% of original scale,  front middle section of dome and brow ridge:

Room for my ears, reasonable visor location (based on how I imagine the top dome slice fitting)

Printed the back section (Also 110%) to check for glasses clearance:

Yup, looks good to go for glasses!

The rest of the pics that follow are with the above 2 pieces -- 110% with the top dome slice also 110% -- I don't have a pic of just the dome and brow, but later pics will confirm the visor consistently sits so I can see

Let the CHEEK BATTLE... BEGIN!!!
So in retrospect, this first cheek print was kind of foolish.  I scaled the cheeks up to 110% (naturally) to fit the dome.  This wound up taking a cheek that I alread knew was bordering on too long and adding a little over an inch to it.   Result:

Holy crap-- way too long! (I mean, like, if I want to look down, like EVER) -- not a shocking result, in retrospect.

Up till now, I'd been doing my scaling in my slicer -- time to go back to fusion.  There, I scaled everything up to 110% (uniform scaling)  my percentages hereafter, are based on that 110%  I made myself a couple of size options with the plan of just printing cheeks until I figured out which size was going to work -- but here's the trick.  The front to back and side to side measurements for the other pieces were already correct.  If I'd used uniform scaling, I would have gotten pieces that were the right height, but too small along x and y to fit the dome.  So I turned off uniform scaling and only made the scaling adjustments to the Z axis -- this is why it pays to model your design in relation to the planes in Fusion 360. 

85% (of 110%)  - Cheek: -- note -- the back ring doesn't get reprinted until I settle on the actual cheek size.  (110% cheek included for comparison)


Better, but still concerned about hitting my shoulders, and one of the things I don't like about my current bucket is that I didn't spend enough time getting THIS part of the fit right, so --

70% (of 110%) - Cheek (85% included for comparison)


Looks like we have a winner, needed to print 70% back ring to confirm

70% Cheek, 70% Back ring with Keyslots:


Winner!   -- Printed the other cheek, but I don't have taped pics of that.

The other thing I had to fix fromt he original is that I modeled in some alignment tabs -- my design didn't work out, and the tabs actually make the inside of the helmet uncomfortable.  So I shaved them off the model, and the front part of the dome and brow, sans tabs is currently printing. After that, I'll reprint the back half and then I can do full mockup.

And now, a comparison of how the design started, and where it ended up:
Orginal Scale


110% dome parts, 70% (of 110%) rest of the bucket



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Re: Sep Ho'ban - Legacy Kit - WIP (Approved) and Upgrades
« Reply #108 on: Jul 09, 2018, 10:58 AM »
It's coming around nicely.

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Re: Sep Ho'ban - Legacy Kit - WIP (Approved) and Upgrades
« Reply #109 on: Jul 13, 2018, 09:32 AM »
Certainly looking good! Seems a little short, but that's probably fine with a good neck seal and balaclava.

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Re: Sep Ho'ban - Legacy Kit - WIP (Approved) and Upgrades
« Reply #110 on: Jul 13, 2018, 08:20 PM »
It's short because my neck is short and my shoulders (not talking about armor) are tall. In my current helmet when I turn my head I hit collar armor.  Balaclava will cover the gap

Re: Sep Ho'ban - Legacy Kit - WIP (Approved) and Upgrades
« Reply #111 on: Jul 13, 2018, 10:03 PM »
That was one of the worst parts about printing my buckets. Sizing was always funky. It was either too tall too short or not long enough front to back. Looks good though

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Re: Sep Ho'ban - Legacy Kit - WIP (Approved) and Upgrades
« Reply #112 on: Jul 13, 2018, 10:40 PM »
Yeah, I'm actually fortunate here that I don't have a printer big enough to print the whole thing in one piece-- because then I'd have probably printed 4 or 5 full helmets, istead of 3 or 4 extra cheeks and an extra front brow ridge.  Of course, if I DO get a large format printer at some point, hopefully I'll remember this lesson.

Also helps if you're working with your own model, cause you're not stuck trying to just modify an STL, you can modify the source files. 

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Re: Sep Ho'ban - Legacy Kit - WIP (Approved) and Upgrades
« Reply #113 on: Oct 26, 2018, 12:01 AM »
NECRO TIME!

So... just realized I haven't shown off the new bucket -- first thing's first:
A little history of the face of Sep:  From left to Right -- the Mark III (first finished helmet, home depot buckets, hotglue, bondo and hope), The Mark IV (my 3d model, my 3d print), The Mark V aka Sep Owl: (my 3d model, really should have skipped Mark IV printing, my print) -- I've sinced swapped to a black visor.


Now that that's out of the way, here's the kit as it was up until Monday:


The blue shoulder in this pic has cracked and been glued, but it's really just a bit too small for it, so I re-modeled it to fit my shoulder better and added a bicep strap.
The white shoulder was flopping around too much, so I added a bicep strap to it as well.
(still need to weather the leather, and paint the chicago screws to be ready for Saturday)  -- but I also finished building a stand for the wood lathe today -- should be able to knock those two things out tomorrow and have it troop worthy for Saturday  :) 






Next up on the chopping block are my gauntlets -- have these printed and they fit, need to kitbash some greeblies onto them and prep them for paint.

(shield generators from Star Destroyer)


(EMP emitter gauntlet)

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Re: Sep Ho'ban - Legacy Kit - WIP (Approved) and Upgrades
« Reply #114 on: Oct 28, 2018, 11:45 PM »
Say goodbye to the old abs and collar.  Had a great time at Frontiers of Flight!

(why yes, that IS a space capsule.  Thank you for noticing! :p)

Templates:


Cut sintra:


Rough Shaped:


New Collar and Abs: (previous collar plate kept un-overlapping top chest plate.  Should not be an issue with this new one.  the silver sharpie line represents the previous height of the collar).


Test fit: (still need to run leather from front to back


Next steps: design trauma plates, cut trauma plates, shape trauima plates, e6k trauma plates to base plates, then all the painting. I'm gonna give all the paint a bit of a refresh, but not doing a full repaint. Just updating to match helmet and shoulder a bit better since my technique has advanced.


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Re: Sep Ho'ban - Legacy Kit - WIP (Approved) and Upgrades
« Reply #115 on: Nov 07, 2018, 05:16 PM »
I like these new plate shapes better. Make you look more well covered by your plates.

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Re: Sep Ho'ban - Legacy Kit - WIP (Approved) and Upgrades
« Reply #116 on: Nov 08, 2018, 02:05 PM »
I dig it! I really like the steam punky color scheme and look of your kit! It's also cool to see the full kit, not sure I ever found your WIP before today.

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Re: Sep Ho'ban - Legacy Kit - WIP (Approved) and Upgrades
« Reply #117 on: Nov 08, 2018, 02:15 PM »
Thanks for the feedback :) I hope to have pics of me in full kit with the new plates soon!

Re: Sep Ho'ban - Legacy Kit - WIP (Approved) and Upgrades
« Reply #118 on: Nov 08, 2018, 09:35 PM »
Looking awesome . Can't wait to see it all together.

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Re: Sep Ho'ban - Legacy Kit - WIP (Approved) and Upgrades
« Reply #119 on: Nov 10, 2018, 09:14 PM »
New helmet looks dope :D. Benefits of hiatuses; coming back to folk having made progress! I think the new ab and collar plates will be good additions, they look much better in proportion than the old.

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