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Corbin's armor concept and WIP
« on: Nov 25, 2019, 05:17 AM »
Greetings all!!

 I've posted various pictures in different sections, but it's probably best for me to begin my WIP thread. Much better to be told "that won't pass CRLs" while it's still in the developmental stages.  So PLEASE feel free to speak your mind, offer suggestions, or whatever. I have thick skin. LOL

 There's a rough idea on how I want things to look, but many details haven't been hammered out yet.  As most of my projects tend to do, I suspect there will be several instances of either screwing something up, it not working the way I envisioned or the need to go a different direction. I'm happy to have everyone able to "come along for the ride" of seeing this through. Looking forward to getting my first Mando all together.

So........ here's my concept drawing. Or more accurately, the drawing that evolved as I acquired different parts. I'm sure it'll continue to evolve.  I'm not sure what color I want the trauma plates yet. If I can lighten or darken the Icon boots, that will probably play a major factor in my decision. I'm a bit of a leathersmith (amatuer), so I have some ideas. My original intention was to do an arctic Mando, but I could go desert instead. Anyway, please feel free to say which color combo you like best.



 Yes, those are Snowtrooper shoulders on the arctic versions. I'm a Snowtrooper in the 501st, so I have extra parts here and there. Not 100% sold on using them with the Mando kit, but we'll see. I already have cold cast aluminum Boba style shoulders that I was considering using as something else, like bicep armor or something similar.  Not sure yet.  And I realize there aren't any knees drawn (or arms for that matter). Haven't decided on second waist belt either yet, so it's not drawn. Trying to focus on what I HAVE so far, but I'll need to figure out that stuff too, eventually.  :laugh:

 For the torso, I'm starting with Jango cold cast aluminum parts (fiberglass reinforced).
I'll add some removable trauma plates later, to give it some color.

So far, I have cold cast:
  • shoulders
  • collar
  • L & R chest, with diamond
  • abdomen
  • cod piece

Not the best picture, but I'll replace it with a better one soon.



I'm having a flak vest made in off white cotton duck cloth.  Endelose (on Etsy) is making it for me. She comes highly recommended. It'll have a short covered zipper on the back, as well as a covered zipper down the left side. Hidden elastic sides, double layered front (for reinforcement), and Boba style shoulders.

Back zipper cover idea was mine. Basically, there's a short strip of fabric that acts as a zipper pull. There's loop velcro on it, so it's comfortable to hold. After zipping it up, you lay it down over the zipper, which has hook velcro sewn to either side. Should hide the zipper pretty well.....I hope.



 Before cutting anything, I asked a question in Mandalorian Q&A about segmenting the collar piece, and having a trauma plate cover the gap, but allow the underplates (the CC alum) to slide under it, when needed, to allow for better range of motion and prevent binding. I got the OK to proceed. Here's a rough drawing of what I'm talking about. Plates weren't sanded or steel wooled at this point. Note: that's not a vest I'm using for the armor. It was just convenient.



 I'm also wanting to have a similar trauma plate for the chest sections.
The CC diamond will be on the trauma plate (recessed). I'm wondering,
if I'm going to attach a pilot's chest box, would I still need the diamond?
There will be matching  trauma plates on the abdomen and codpiece.



 Came across some really "Swarzy" brown boots. At least I think so:



 I'm currently playing around with methods to cover back zipper.  Thinking a leather or aluminum plate like this:



 Maybe I'll add some rockets, like Cad Bane,  just my own style.

A couple days ago, I bought some gloves like these, off Ebay. I thought they'd go well with the boots.
One cool thing I just saw on ep 4 of the Mandalorian the Kubaz  was wearing these exact same gloves.



Now...... the helmet is from Albatross Customs (our own Makris Brik). I designed a custom, liftable visor,
that Makris was kind enough to build for me. I have lots of plans for adding electronics to this helm
(wireless mic to voice amp, LEDs, possibly a HUD, if I can get it to work right, and a Velleman MK126),
but they'll have their own threads.



Teaser HUD w / animated "radar"   :cookie::



 Here's some pants I found that I liked. I know I'll need to sew pockets shut. I purchased and extra pair,
in small, so I can use them to make matching sleeves. Not sure if I'll have sleeves attach inside flak vest
or make them into a separate layer. I liked the ribbed knee (and elbow) sections. They're 95% cotton, so
they should be able to either be dyed or made lighter, as needed.





Thanks!!

I look forward to hearing your thoughts.

« Last Edit: Dec 03, 2019, 04:45 AM by Corbin Das » Logged

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Re: Corbin's armor concept and WIP
« Reply #1 on: Dec 01, 2019, 07:12 AM »
OMG, everything is awesome! I am going with a similar trauma plating concept too

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Re: Corbin's armor concept and WIP
« Reply #2 on: Dec 03, 2019, 06:07 AM »
Thanks Kurz !

I'm currently trying to decide if I want the "life support box" on the chest or on the back. I haven't designed the back plate yet, so I just have it drawn with the vest. Having it on the back was my original intention, as I thought it might keep the front cleaner and give more detail to the back. Having it on the chest though, would let me place my voice amp speaker into it, and allow me to reach switches.

Thoughts?


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Re: Corbin's armor concept and WIP
« Reply #3 on: Dec 06, 2019, 01:59 AM »
  After some consideration, I'm leaning towards having the box on the back.
 
 It just means I'll have to figure out a different place to put the Akers voice amp. Not a big deal. I can still have a fan in the box, with the air blowing up through the hoses and into the lower front of the helmet. Ultimately, it's easier to relocate the Akers than to try and reroute air into the helmet.  The way it sets on me, there's not a lot of space inside the back of the helmet to add stuff.  So having air up front makes more sense to me.

 Any elements in the box (fan, lights, etc) can have the wires run through the hoses to switches on the coupler, that will magnetically mount to the chin area of the helmet. Internally, I'll have hoses, ducts or some other pathway for the air to get up to my face as well as the visor area. The only thing I'll need to be mindful of is to not have the air flow directly onto the wireless microphone. Still brainstorming on that one.

 In other news..... I picked up a WWII Swedish ammo belt, like this one. Got a leather box pouch too.



Also, I'm thinking of using a couple plastic boxes I have on the armor somewhere. They're made to
carry an auto injector, like an Epi-pen, just for migraines (which I unfortunately get)."Swarzy" enough?



Another item I've gathered up is about half a dozen 5v powerbanks with USB ports, to charge
your phone (or power armor/helmet electronics). They look like firearm magazines, sorta. So
having a few of them somewhere on my body wouldn't look out of place.



 Now, I have to decide which configuration to wear the belt and the boxes. You can see how
the cold cast aluminum will have a gap on the chest and collar sections. The trauma plates
will cover that, but allow for more range of motion, without the plates binding or buckling.



 As always, I'd love to hear your thoughts and suggestions.

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Re: Corbin's armor concept and WIP
« Reply #4 on: Dec 06, 2019, 08:55 AM »
Looks like you’ve got a solid plan for your kit.

The pouches you purchased should be good. I’ve seen a few people get those and they seem to hold up well trooping.

The plastic box and USB drive will have to be significantly modified to make them look like they belong in Star Wars. You’d need to add greeblies, plates, etc to disguise them so they are not recognizable.

For the question you had earlier regarding the pilot box and diamond, according to the CRLs for a Mandalorian pilot “If the life support box is worn on the backplate, a center diamond is required.”

Also the flightsuit has to be an entire suit. I can be 1 piece or 2. If it’s 2 pieces, both need to be the same color and fabrics and must look like it’s a one piece flightsuit. So you can use a second pair of the pants to make a top shirt, but you must have a flightsuit top underneath your flakvest.

The gloves you picked will work well. You need to remove or cover any logos and brands but that should be pretty easy.

You’ve got a great start! I look forward to watching your progress.

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Re: Corbin's armor concept and WIP
« Reply #5 on: Dec 22, 2019, 04:24 AM »
You’ve got a great start! I look forward to watching your progress.

Thanks Ruus'alor.

 I kinda figured I'd have to "dress up" the powerbanks somehow. Granted, only the last couple inches of them will be visible when in pouches (bottoms, without the USB slot). Wasn't sure if the auto injector boxes were OK with some paint, or if they'd need more. Either way, it's an easy fix. I'm going to try and make it to the Feb meetup, in Lansing, I hope. It's close to my wedding anniversary though, so we might be going somewhere.

  I saw the CRLs about a pilot;s box, though honestly, I wasn't initially planning on doing a pilot, per se. I just wanted a chest or back box, with hoses going to the helmet. Wouldn't mind doing a pilot eventually, but I'd have to mod the helmet, which at this point, I'd like to just get wearable.

 Haven't decided if I'll go with a leather harness for the back box or have it attached to a back plate yet. Thinking about some sort of long vest with what would amount to a kama on the lower section. Something like this:

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Re: Corbin's armor concept and WIP
« Reply #6 on: Dec 22, 2019, 02:03 PM »
It’d be great if you could make it to our Tra’cor February meet up! That would give you a chance to meet everyone and us to meet you, but we understand that life happens. Your wife is welcome to join us too.

For the flak vest and Kama, they need to be 2 separate pieces. They can be the same fabric, but can’t be one long piece in the back. Otherwise, you’re on the right track.

Hope to meet you soon!

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Re: Corbin's armor concept and WIP
« Reply #7 on: Dec 23, 2019, 04:03 AM »
I have it drawn wrong. The flak vest is definitely a separate piece. The "overvest" I was thinking could be one piece. It'd be like a pirate's  long vest that gets belted.


Like this, but shorter and with less wrap around  on the front.




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« Reply #8 on: Dec 23, 2019, 04:17 AM »
I'm absolutely digging those boots!

Do you have a link for those gloves you bought?

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Re: Corbin's armor concept and WIP
« Reply #10 on: Dec 25, 2019, 08:57 AM »
Dusters (overvests) are allowed. Here are guidelines for them :

Dusters and Capes
-Must cover your full back
-weathering consistent with that found on the rest of the costume
-must show the chest armor underneath
-may not be used to mount any armor plating.
-may not have long Sleeves

Hope that helps!

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« Reply #11 on: Dec 28, 2019, 10:44 PM »
 Thanks for the CRLs for dusters. I think my vision of it should comply. The only thing that might come into question is whether I could have an extra set of plates on the tops of the shoulders (on the duster). I'd still have the regular pauldrons attached to the flak vest, but was wondering about some sort of plate on the tops of the duster's shoulders, with flanges or something to keep the hoses from sliding off the shoulders. If it's an issue, I can come up with something else. Magnets or whatever.


Here's a more revised version of the armor, showing that the kama-like section is actually part of the sleeveless duster.



Being that I'm not currently trying to be a pilot before even becoming an OM, I wasn't sure if pilot CRLs would apply if I just wanted to have a back box with hoses.  I think the pilot CRLS require a back box either attached to a back plate or suspended by a harness. Seeing as how I'm hoping to not have to use a back plate, that would leave a harness. Ideally, I'd want the box stuck (perhaps with magnets) to corresponding magnets on the flak vest, though they'd be separated by the duster. Not sure if that'd be allowed or not though.

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Re: Corbin's armor concept and WIP
« Reply #12 on: Jan 01, 2020, 09:08 PM »
I’m glad it sound like it fits into your plan!  The duster can’t be used to mount any armor plating, but as all plate to help with your hoses may be allowed. You just want to make sure it doesn’t look like armor plating, but a connection of some sort. We’ll be able to tell you for sure when you get the building that part, make sure you post photos so we can very if it’ll be allowed.

I’ll ask about the back box and get back to you on that.


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Re: Corbin's armor concept and WIP
« Reply #13 on: Jan 02, 2020, 09:14 PM »
The pilot box secured on top of the duster isn’t allowed.  Unfortunately, nothing can be mounted on the duster.

Your concept is progressing nicely. Can’t wait to see it come together!

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Re: Corbin's armor concept and WIP
« Reply #14 on: Jan 09, 2020, 12:03 AM »
The pilot box secured on top of the duster isn’t allowed.  Unfortunately, nothing can be mounted on the duster.

Thanks Rayne.

 Might have to make a harness for the box. Or just let it hang by the hoses? I'll figure something out.

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