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Scatchbuild Test
« on: Jul 08, 2010, 06:49 PM »
As I said in my main armour planning thread, I'm doing a few “quick-n-dirty” pieces out of sintra, both to get used to my templates and work the bugs out, and to have something wearable sooner than it'll take to have my proper kits finished.

For this first pair, I used the WizardOfFlight templates and 1mm sintra. I used the right gauntlet template and mirrored it for the left, as a flamethrower would add more complexity than I want for these.



The right one in progress, upper and lower clamshells:

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(outer)
[came out bad, need to reshoot]
[came out bad, need to reshoot]

On the right gaunt, the upper box and side piece are the ROTJ versions:





[came out bad, need to reshoot]

...although cleaner and with different detailing/armament.

The left one is still nebulous. Might do something derivative of the Clone compad...

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Re: Scatchbuild Test
« Reply #1 on: Jul 08, 2010, 07:29 PM »
I've got 3mm sintra.  How are you doing with the heating and folding and such?  How do you keep the lines clean?  Or is it just that much easier with 1mm sintra?  And where the heck did you find those templates?  I have no idea where to find them... 8(

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Re: Scatchbuild Test
« Reply #2 on: Jul 08, 2010, 07:30 PM »
Oh, it's looking good, btw... 8P

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Re: Scatchbuild Test
« Reply #3 on: Jul 08, 2010, 08:02 PM »
templates are off the home page, left side top.

is it 1mm? how is it to get the sharp creases?

not bad so far.

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Re: Scatchbuild Test
« Reply #4 on: Jul 08, 2010, 08:09 PM »
They're over at the Dented Helmet. Here's a direct link to the relevent section. :)

There's been a little trial and error with the 1mm sintra, but I have a lot so mistakes have not been buzzkills. It's thinner and -- especially for the smaller pieces -- heats up faster under the heat gun. The corners can curl a little too easily sometimes. I made cardstock forms, taped one edge of the sintra flush to one edge of the form, heated the sintra gently until it could be pulled over to the other edge, taped it down over there, then continued to gently heat it uniformly until it relaxed into shape. Then I shocked it in the freezer.

For the outer pieces, I've learned the best way to deal with the fiddly stuff is to mark the template on the inside as I did with the helmet pieces, leave a good half-inch or so around the outside, and not cut out the insets or holes. Once I've got it so it drapes in a cylinder over the form, I cut out the holes and insets with an x-acto knife (but not for the projecting bit on the lower outer). Then, as for the inner pieces, taped down securely (including over the holes and insets) and gently heated until it relaxes into shape.

My first attempt resulted in curling egdes for the holes and insets, so...

The box pieces I grooved inside the fold lines and superglued them into position. I'm going to see how a hair-iron does to apply more targetted heating to work curved bits on them.

I'll be taking plenty more pictures, especially of the forming of the left gauntlet (I completely forgot for the right), coming next week.

--Jonah

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Re: Scatchbuild Test
« Reply #5 on: Jul 08, 2010, 09:00 PM »
at one mm, can you just bend it like card without heat?


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Re: Scatchbuild Test
« Reply #6 on: Jul 08, 2010, 10:04 PM »
Not that far, not without potentially overstressing it. And it will want to snap back the second one lets go. WIth heat, it softens enough you can manhandle it into position for the second heating. If your'e talking about the sharper creases, I didn't use heat there, but did score a groove on the inside of the fold almost all the way through, so just the PVC skin on the outside is what's bending.

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Re: Scatchbuild Test
« Reply #7 on: Jul 08, 2010, 10:51 PM »
For the record, my second kit was made out of 1mm and bending it (for the forms required) without heating would result in snapping. Just takes very patient heating (or in my case BWAHAHHIGHHEAT!!!11! . .. . .yeah. . .I don't recommend my method. XD)

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Re: Scatchbuild Test
« Reply #8 on: Jul 22, 2010, 09:19 PM »
Looks like you're off to a great start Jonah. Keep up the good work. I'll definitely be keeping my eye on this thread!  ;)

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Re: Scatchbuild Test
« Reply #9 on: Jul 22, 2010, 09:31 PM »
Good to see you getting into the actual production phase. That was you at DCon last year that showed me your concept art in the badge line, right? Regardless, it looks like you're doing a fantastic job here so far. I look forward to seeing these finished, and the rest of the kit as well ;D.

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Re: Scatchbuild Test
« Reply #10 on: Jul 23, 2010, 06:33 AM »
Good to see you getting into the actual production phase. That was you at DCon last year that showed me your concept art in the badge line, right? Regardless, it looks like you're doing a fantastic job here so far. I look forward to seeing these finished, and the rest of the kit as well ;D.

'Twas I indeed, Slade. :) These are not for that kit that I showed you. Even though I came up with that concept first, that costume will take significantly longer to complete, so I brainstormed up a placeholder concept that I actually have grown quite fond of. I'll actually have a sketch up in the planning thread soon showing better what I'm working toward.

--Jonah

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Re: Scatchbuild Test
« Reply #11 on: Jul 23, 2010, 06:51 AM »
Hokay! So. I've had a lot of other things competing for my attention this last week, but I've managed to get some things done, and am geared up for more. First up --

The side box for the right gauntlet, getting closer:


Rather than just have the tube running through the hollow housing, I decided to carry over a design cue from the ESB version of the side box by having side braces that will hold it in position:


The main pieces in position, more or less. The secondary tube needs to be cut at an angle, and both need the compression fittings on the end for the hoses to attach to, but you get the idea:


Side-by-side with the more ESB-style left gauntlet side box. I have all the greebles for that off to the side being worked on, but there's not much to see for those yet:


Some views of the right gauntlet upper box, all glued together, pilot holes for the mini-missiles drilled, and about half the edges and corners filed round:






And inside:


More cleanup coming over the next couple days...

--Jonah

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Re: Scatchbuild Test
« Reply #12 on: Jul 25, 2010, 03:08 AM »
Wow.  for quick and dirty these look great.

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Re: Scatchbuild Test
« Reply #13 on: Jul 25, 2010, 03:10 AM »
Quick is a relative term with Pere. . . .*chuckle*

Also, where the pics of the darts you were mentioning? I believe you said something about wanting those to be looked at or some such. *prod*

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Re: Scatchbuild Test
« Reply #14 on: Jul 25, 2010, 01:41 PM »
'Twas I indeed, Slade. :) These are not fo rthat kit that I showed you. Even though I came up with that concept first, that costume will take significantly longer to complete, so I brainstormed up a placeholder concept that I actually have grown quite fond of. I'll actually have a sketch up in the planning thread soon showing better what I'm working toward.

--Jonah

Aha, I see. Well, I shall be looking for that new sketch. I'm interested to see what you've come up with.

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