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True Mandalorians
« on: Sep 10, 2010, 04:59 PM »
If the title of the thread wasn't enough the purpose of this thread is discussion of the True Mandalorian and what a TM kit would consist of. I've based most of my kit so far off of the TM's. One big thing I've noticed is the gross similarities between TM's and MP's. I think one thing that would need to be established is the difference between the two and how to bring that out. This is going to be a difficult task, one good look through Open Seasons is enough to realize just how inconsistent it was. A few of the constants I noticed was; medium style armor, a mid-green color to the plates with a yellow shade to the knees and shoulders, red or yellow gauntlets, and the face is either red, yellow, or blue. For anyone who hasn't read the comic it can be found here:
http://www.nukecd.com/cayce/mandcomix/

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Re: True Mandalorians
« Reply #1 on: Sep 10, 2010, 05:01 PM »
I was waiting for someone to start this!

What you described was also in the later days of the True Mandalorians after Jango had grown to late teens early twenties. In the early days, they TM's wore silver armor with teh same listed color accents.

One thing too is JP's didnt seem as prevelant with the TM's as with the MP's.

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Re: True Mandalorians
« Reply #2 on: Sep 10, 2010, 05:10 PM »
Very true. It was only Vertigo company that used them and it seemed more mission specific than anything else. The grey is a good point. I usually bring up the green simply because it was in more frames and more Mando's are pictured in it, though grey is no less a legit color. So there is something else to add to the list. I think the biggest thing right now is going to be figuring out the gauntlets, they change in nearly every single frame.

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Re: True Mandalorians
« Reply #3 on: Sep 10, 2010, 05:17 PM »
I think either doing a build based upon a single drawn reference or, using straight up Jango gaunts orROTJ, ESB Boba gaunts would probably be best to represent the characters.

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Re: True Mandalorians
« Reply #4 on: Sep 10, 2010, 05:46 PM »
Jango would probably make the most sense. The only consistent part to the gaunts I have found is they have a thin strip along the bottom instead of the indention's and a blaster/ flamethrower along the top of each. That and they are red.

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Re: True Mandalorians
« Reply #5 on: Sep 11, 2010, 01:05 PM »
This is my Jaster Mereel kit. I've put a good bit of effort into making it as comic-accurate as possible. I've left off the yellow diamond from my chest armor, as seen in JFOS Issue 2, as I felt that the diamond, and indeed the red circles and blue rectangles were only used for specific operations. I am also not entirely happy with my holsters, as they are pretty much unmodded Jango holsters, and were not made particularly well. They made it through most of C5, but started to show serious signs of wear on day 3 (the last day I was in armor.

 


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Re: True Mandalorians
« Reply #6 on: Sep 12, 2010, 01:37 AM »
s I said over in the Protectors thread, I just flipped through Open Seasons again and Jango is the only one I see wiht the green armour. Everyone else is varying shades of metallic grey. But the shoulder and knee and helmet colour thing seems to be a common thread.

I rationalized it years ago as Jaster stripping the Protector green off his armour when he was kicked out, but kept the contrast colours. At first, I had a placeholder posit that his followers did the same to show solidarity with him.

After the stuff in the Clone Wars, I have retconned that to the Protectors being an unarmoured organization in line with the New Mandalorian philosophy. Jaster was of a more militant temperament, which led to his troubles. He established the True Mandalorians and took up the armour. I still say his visor frame reflects his former rank in the Protectors. Dunno what to think about the other colours. And then, as others joined they adopted the same rationale.

Perhaps the "green=duty" thing is what prompted Jango to paint the rest of his armour green. And Spar remembered that when Jango's memories awakened in him, and he perpetuated that when he re-established the Protectors.

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Re: True Mandalorians
« Reply #7 on: Sep 12, 2010, 08:21 AM »
Pere, you may have a screwed up copy, or possibly be color blind. They are most definitely green in the later parts. Gray in the beginning but definitely green when Jango is in control. The only gray I see is when they are in the background, the farther back they are the more gray they get.

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Re: True Mandalorians
« Reply #8 on: Sep 12, 2010, 11:10 AM »
yeah, post the rescue of jango, most had a green base.

by the battle of giladran, only jango had metallic and trimmed plates. the rest had green.

although they had different names, the appearances are so similar, it makes me wonder if TM and MP shouldn't be the same group. I mean teachnically, you have two guys standing next to each other in identical or near identical rigs. The primary difference would be one would have Jaster's kre'bes on their shoulder and the otehr would have a clan sigil on the breastplate. One would call himself a TM and the other call himself a MP.

With the silver armored and color trimmed versions of the TM's the difference is much clearer.

i wonder if they shouldn't be brought together or not?

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Re: True Mandalorians
« Reply #9 on: Sep 12, 2010, 12:33 PM »
Hmm, you bring up a good point. The armor is near identical, only noticeable differences seem to be the MP sash and it seems to run towards the light end of armor. We are all ready in the Canon brigade so there is that. I guess the TM's could make use of the colored shapes. Technically they were only shown in the one battle but it is a distinguishing mark.

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Re: True Mandalorians
« Reply #10 on: Sep 12, 2010, 12:36 PM »
Yeah, it adds a level of customization. But if you look at kits like Synnr Falco and Bedlam X they clearly look MP but, run on the heavier end of armor. There really not 100% accurate to canon references of MP's or TM's but could realistically be either or just inspired by. This is where it's going to get tricky.

Id like to see what Pere, Slade and Novall think as well.

Leaving them as two seperate entities is just fine as well.

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Re: True Mandalorians
« Reply #11 on: Sep 12, 2010, 12:40 PM »
Yeah, were in the same Brigade at least. Other than that I think that's as far as we need to take it. We can spot the differences if properly distinguished, everyone else is gonna look at us like Boba variants. Green is kind of a dooming color when it comes to being unique.

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Re: True Mandalorians
« Reply #12 on: Sep 12, 2010, 12:50 PM »
Too true.

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Re: True Mandalorians
« Reply #13 on: Sep 12, 2010, 01:19 PM »
There are ALOT of different colors of armor in Open Seasons.  Jango does wear some green armor when he is a squad leader at the battle of Korda 6. 

I've always took that to just be the colors to denote his job as a squad leader (they all seemed to have different colors) at Korda 6.

We really need to go through OS page by page and come up with what colors were used at every level.

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Re: True Mandalorians
« Reply #14 on: Sep 12, 2010, 02:03 PM »
Very much so. One thing I have noticed is the colors change based on where the character sits in the landscape. Those in the foreground are very much green, while those in the background are more gray. I think this more of an effect than anything. Similar to older cartoons where the object of focus was a brighter color. You see it in the old Scooby Doo cartoons where the book that revealed the secret door was a brighter in color.

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