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Author Topic: Helmet Sizing V 2.0  (Read 12880 times)

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Re: Helmet Sizing V 2.0
« Reply #45 on: Jan 08, 2012, 02:18 PM »
LOL, Yeah, I'm not quite that big. I'm 6'2" and 24" accross the shoulders, which is why i could get away with the 2pc. I don't know what make my 1:1 actually is, it's one i got in a trade because i needed a helmet with plenty of room inside. Because after trying various Bobamaker buckets, which are superbly made, i struggled to get them on without my glasses. The helmet i use i can get on with my glasses, which was a big help. Since those days however, Saz came along. I've tried a couple of his helmets, and again, i can just get them on with my glasses. There are other makes out there which i haven't tried, so i can't comment on them.  So yes BigJonno, Take Falins advice. If anyone can put you right on helmets, He can  ;) .

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Re: Helmet Sizing V 2.0
« Reply #46 on: Jan 24, 2012, 04:32 AM »
Ok,

To sum up on what we have learned so far regarding this theory.

1. This theory came from measuring Jeremy Bulloch and other members of the club to get a certain tolerance.
2. This gave us the perfect ratio for shoulder to helmet size which is the helmet width should be half of the shoulder to shoulder width out of armour.
3. That means that, once you don your armour, your helmet will be slightly smaller than half the width of your shoulder.
4. The tolerance given is for people who are on the cusp of and it will depend on your body frame, muscular or large people should lean towards the 1:1 if it comes down to a choice.
5. In some cases it will be the difference in looking alright and looking great (see Kel T. Skirata example on page 1)
6. Head size should only be a factor if you can't fit your head into the bucket, or you have needs, such as glasses.
7. We set the tolerance zone of 20 - 21 inches shoulder width and 5ft 10 as the minimum level where you would be best buying a 1:1, but there is a Goldilocks zone where you can get away with wearing both J2P and 1:1, it is recommended that, dependent on your body frame (see note 4.), it may be a case of waiting until your vest and plates are finished first and then make a decision based on the final look.
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Re: Helmet Sizing V 2.0
« Reply #47 on: Jan 26, 2012, 06:26 AM »
that is very helpful

looks like I'm up for another scratchbuild or something...
but hopefully this time, I won't have to "press-fit" my helmat
But what about using the golden ratio somewere in threre? (1 + square-root5 over 2)


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Re: Helmet Sizing V 2.0
« Reply #48 on: Feb 01, 2012, 09:21 PM »
So, my shoulder width is 18". I'm 6', 180 lbs. Could I get away with a 1:1, or should I try a J2P?

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Re: Helmet Sizing V 2.0
« Reply #49 on: Feb 01, 2012, 09:43 PM »
While not a 100% science, I would say a 1:1 Jango Fett scale or Don Post 95/96 size would probably be best for you.

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Re: Helmet Sizing V 2.0
« Reply #50 on: Feb 02, 2012, 12:07 AM »
Thanks! I am just starting my scratch build, so this helps me out a lot!

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Re: Helmet Sizing V 2.0
« Reply #51 on: Feb 11, 2012, 10:24 PM »
I'm glad this was posted.  It's beginning to look like I may need to purchase another helmet for width reasons.  Wish I had this information last fall, but I'm glad to give Saz the business. :)  I ordered a 1:1 from Saz, which looks great I must add, but at 6'0 and 20" shoulders... it's a little large (the 1:1 measures 11-12" wide) on the width.  If anyone is interested in purchasing, please PM me.  I may be willing to sell it upon finding a suitable replacement.  I will keep it if I cannot find a suitable replacement.
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Re: Helmet Sizing V 2.0
« Reply #52 on: Feb 11, 2012, 11:19 PM »
It's actually pretty close. You may be better off with it than dropping down. You should post some pix in a helmet thread with it on.

Re: Helmet Sizing V 2.0
« Reply #53 on: Mar 13, 2012, 09:49 PM »
I can't figure out if my shoulders are super small, or if I'm not measuring them right. Holding a tape measure to my shoulders, they are ~18 inches. I'm 5'11", 180 lbs. Seems like the Rubies 2 Piece is the right size if my shoulders are correct.

How should I get the shoulder measurement?

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Re: Helmet Sizing V 2.0
« Reply #54 on: Mar 13, 2012, 11:06 PM »
I can't figure out if my shoulders are super small, or if I'm not measuring them right. Holding a tape measure to my shoulders, they are ~18 inches. I'm 5'11", 180 lbs. Seems like the Rubies 2 Piece is the right size if my shoulders are correct.

How should I get the shoulder measurement?

I measure from the edge of one shoulder (the furthest portion of my arm) across the nape of my neck to the edge of the other shoulder.  Ni'ka measured her rubies 2-piece for size comparison, and it is just below 10" wide and 10" tall.  I measure 19-20" at the shoulders, and it looked way too small on me when I tried it on.

Going off your height and weight, I'd imagine the 2-piece is going to be a little small on you proportionately, especially near the chin area.

The Saz 1:1 boba helmet I had (it was too big) measured 12" wide from ear to ear at the widest point.    The "Large" in "M-DSB" helmets measure just under 11" wide, and the medium measures a little bigger than a 2-piece (barely over 10" wide).  I'm not sure of Falin Skirata's sizing, other than the Owl helmet (which turned out great btw)

Hope this helps somewhat.  I would go with something a little bigger than a 2-piece, but smaller than a 1:1 boba if possible.
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Re: Helmet Sizing V 2.0
« Reply #55 on: Mar 14, 2012, 05:40 PM »
If the Rubies 2 piece is 10 inches, and the best ratio is 2:1 shoulder to helmet, wouldn't anything bigger go a little bobblehead on me at 18 inches? Not to mention anything between 1:1 Jango size (as I understand the J2P is) and 1:1 Boba size (as I understand the HBF is) will cost at least twice as much. I just want to make sure I have this right before I go slinging the money around.

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Re: Helmet Sizing V 2.0
« Reply #56 on: Mar 14, 2012, 06:37 PM »
Jango 1:1 scale, which includes the Rubies 2 piece, is 9.5" wide. Perfect for someone with 19" shoulders. Shoudl work as small as 17" and up to 20".

Boba 1:1 scale is 11.5" wide. Perfect for someone with 23" shoulders. Should work down to about 22 and up to 25-26 before earcap modding or stretching become neccessary.

If you fall in the 19.5-22" range, the Don Post COULD be the perfect match for you.

There are other factors that can play in, shoudler width seems to be the primary factor though. But, things such as overall body width and girth, height, head height, head circumference etc all play in. At the end of the day, it's not a 100% science but, by going with shoulder width, yoiu have your best shot of getting it right. Some folks, no matter what, are going to have to scratchbuild.

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Re: Helmet Sizing V 2.0
« Reply #57 on: Mar 14, 2012, 07:12 PM »
Jango 1:1 scale, which includes the Rubies 2 piece, is 9.5" wide. Perfect for someone with 19" shoulders. Shoudl work as small as 17" and up to 20".

Boba 1:1 scale is 11.5" wide. Perfect for someone with 23" shoulders. Should work down to about 22 and up to 25-26 before earcap modding or stretching become neccessary.

If you fall in the 19.5-22" range, the Don Post COULD be the perfect match for you.

There are other factors that can play in, shoudler width seems to be the primary factor though. But, things such as overall body width and girth, height, head height, head circumference etc all play in. At the end of the day, it's not a 100% science but, by going with shoulder width, yoiu have your best shot of getting it right. Some folks, no matter what, are going to have to scratchbuild.

Listen to "this guy" ;)  He knows a little about helmets. lol  ;D
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Re: Helmet Sizing V 2.0
« Reply #58 on: Mar 14, 2012, 07:54 PM »
Alright. Found a soft measuring tape, and took some new measurements. I'm at ~19 inches. Sounds like the 2-Piece is still my fit.

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Re: Helmet Sizing V 2.0
« Reply #59 on: Mar 25, 2012, 07:47 PM »
So I am at 30" across the shoulders without armor.
My BobaMaker 1:1 took a tumble off my trunk yesterday and one of the mandables smashed on the concrete.
I'm looking at an Enforcer helmet but I can't find any measurements, though I read in the original Helmet Sizing thread that it's roughly the size of a Don Post.  But I think the Enforcer came in 2 sizes.  It looks to be just a shade smaller than the XL Assassin from top to bottom (which is fine) but maybe a little wider, so I assume this is the XL variant.  So the XL would be larger than the Don Post, and comparable to a 1:1? 
Does anyone have any experience with this helmet?  I've heard the cheeks are deep, but I heard the same about Bobamaker and it worked just fine.
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