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Jesse Libarra

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Jesse's WIP
« on: Feb 06, 2012, 07:49 PM »
Ok. Here goes. So, I have a list of supplies made up, and I have some questions before I go crazy and buy everything. Question 1: Is trash-can plastic acceptable for armor? Or will I have to use something else? Question 2:I own a pair of converse Air Force sage, composite toe combat boots. They do lace, and they zip on the sides. I know I will have to cover the laces, but are these boots acceptable?   
 http://www.uspatriottactical.com/converse-8-inch-sage-green-stealth-composite-toe-side-zipper-boots.html

Also, I read that the camo body suites are out. Can I still paint my plates camouflage?
« Last Edit: Mar 16, 2012, 02:38 AM by Jesse Libarra »


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Re: Jesse's WIP
« Reply #1 on: Feb 06, 2012, 08:09 PM »
Question 1: Is trash-can plastic acceptable for armor? Or will I have to use something else?

Question 2:I own a pair of converse Air Force sage, composite toe combat boots. They do lace, and they zip on the sides. I know I will have to cover the laces, but are these boots acceptable?    http://www.uspatriottactical.com/converse-8-inch-sage-green-stealth-composite-toe-side-zipper-boots.html

Also, I read that the camo body suites are out. Can I still paint my plates camouflage?

1: Yes it is acceptable.  Easy to work with and affordable for your first build.

2: Not really sure as they look more like "sneakers" however if you cover the laces with spats or armor plates they should be good to go.  Check out Leatherup.com for some good looking boots that are affordable and don't have laces (its what I use for costuming).

3: The camo must not look like any "earthly" patterns with the exception of the "dazzle" pattern.  Meaning it can't look like BDU, digital camo, desert, "real tree" or Mossy Oak, so on and so on.  An example of a dazzle pattern:


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Re: Jesse's WIP
« Reply #2 on: Feb 06, 2012, 08:48 PM »
so the camouflage colors (green, black, brown, gray, and so on) are acceptable, just not the pattern?


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Re: Jesse's WIP
« Reply #3 on: Feb 06, 2012, 10:56 PM »
The colors are fine, its just the pattern that can't be used.  For example:



The ARF Troopers look like they have a digital camo design however on closer inspection this is what it actually looks like:



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The same design could be applied with the colors you want, just be sure to take close up pics to show that it isn't the regular BDU design.

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« Reply #4 on: Feb 06, 2012, 11:15 PM »
hmm. That'll be fun... lol Thanks for the image. I'll see what I can do with it. :)


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« Reply #5 on: Feb 06, 2012, 11:27 PM »
No worries.  Looking forward to seeing what you come up with.

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« Reply #6 on: Feb 06, 2012, 11:51 PM »
ok. Helmet question. Is it cheaper to buy or scratch-build a helmet? I would love to scratch-build my own some day, but right now it's kind of (very) intimidating.


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« Reply #7 on: Feb 07, 2012, 12:19 AM »
Glad to see you made it to the Mercs site, Jesse! :)

It was intimidating to me too! My first bucket was a scratch build. It took me a very long time to make it though. There's a lot of sanding . I think my scratch build was really only the cost of bondo, fiberglass resin, and fiber glass cloth. The rest I did with cereal boxes. It was about, oh, 30-40 dollars for all the supplies, but I didn't use up any of the things I bought. I probably could've gotten a second bucket out of all of it if I hadn't used the rest of it on other projects.

I've only bought one bucket (I haven't even gotten around to using it yet!), so I can't say much for how expensive they generally are.

It's also a very good idea to poke around other threads here on this site. You can learn a lot just from seeing/reading what other people have done. And if there's something specific you want to find, use the search engine towards the top of the page -- it's helped me on many an occasion!

I hope that helps you out! :)
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Re: Jesse's WIP
« Reply #8 on: Feb 07, 2012, 12:30 AM »
Thanks Ordeyn. :) I was mainly concerned with the price of fiber glassing, bondo, etc. 30-40 dollars doesn't sound too terrible. I may can do that...
Oh, and I don't know if I got to tell you, but your armor is...incredible, Ordeyn. :D
« Last Edit: Feb 19, 2012, 02:20 AM by Jesse Libarra »


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Re: Jesse's WIP
« Reply #9 on: Feb 07, 2012, 12:37 AM »
Well, after 4 years it had better be, LoL! And I'm still not done. ;) Thank you, Jesse!
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« Reply #10 on: Feb 07, 2012, 03:42 AM »
ok. Helmet question. Is it cheaper to buy or scratch-build a helmet? I would love to scratch-build my own some day, but right now it's kind of (very) intimidating.

Scratch building is a ton of work, but the other side to it is you aren't paying someone else for all that time and you can get exactly what you want.

I easily have put in 20 hours on mine so far.  I also am super excited to have my own bucket like this.  I'll be scratch building again in the future when I'm ready for an upgrade for sure.

The big thing with me on the scratch building is that I think it's worth it to use the right tools.  You'll get so frustrated fighting with the wrong stuff that it'll become a monster of a project.  I certainly go overboard on this (I like having cool tools) and there is a middle ground, but I would still consider the total cost to include acquiring everything you need.  If you have parents or friends that can loan you things then you will be all set.  You also need a place to fiberglass that is not inside your house because the fumes and sanding is a big problem indoors.  You also have to have a respirator, no paper masks.  The chemicals in that stuff are nasty to breath in and really unsafe.

If you do it right though and can manage to get what you need without spending too much money then I say go for it.  I am having a blast doing it to the point where I'm already confident enough to tackle some more extreme costuming after my Mando.

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Re: Jesse's WIP
« Reply #11 on: Feb 07, 2012, 09:35 AM »
I am one of those people who is incredibly intimidated by scratch building a helmet. If you've got the patience, tools and know how's to build your own (like Captain Morgan above) then you can create something really awesome. If you don't, the helmet will look a little funky... maybe lean to the side, be uneven, etc.

For my first build which I started a few months ago, I went with the rubies 2 piece. I've made two with it so far, one for myself and one for my brother. I really enjoyed working with it since most of the helmet is built for you and all that's left is some modification to make it less crappy. Just like with any helmet choice, there are tons of threads about how to make it, etc. I found one on the dented helmet that I followed to the letter and came out with something I am very happy with. The helmet cost $35 shipped, and I put about $40 into supplies to make it. Keep in mind the supplies I bought (such as spray paint, a hot glue gun, box cutter, for sale sign, etc.) I also used for building the rest of my mando. My only complain about the 2 piece is that it can break easily. Dropping it off a table would likely split it right down the seam on the dome. Hope that helps!

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Re: Jesse's WIP
« Reply #12 on: Feb 07, 2012, 10:19 AM »
ok. Helmet question. Is it cheaper to buy or scratch-build a helmet? I would love to scratch-build my own some day, but right now it's kind of (very) intimidating.

That's variable... if you have the tools on hand... a dremel, a powered palm sander etc., the materials are very cheap... a can of Bondo (10.00), a can of fiberglass resin ($10.00), a tube of glazing putty (4.00) and a roll of joining tape (5.00) should be enough materials to make 2 helmets. Then a posterboard, which probably only makes 1, costs a buck. You can try to build your own dome or start with something like a hard hat or a bike helmet for your dome base. If you have to go out and buy tools (you could always hand sand but that is so time and sand paper consuming I personally don't find it worth it) you can easily get close to the 200.00 range between supplies and tools. But, you will likely need those tools anyway so, youre going to have to invest in them regardless at some point.

Scrathbuilding is awesome. If youve never worked with this stuff, it can be very hard and may take 2, 3,4 attempts before you nail it. But, there is a point of pride to wearing a well made scratchbuilt helmet you can never get with one you buy from me or Saz or ASOK etc.

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Re: Jesse's WIP
« Reply #13 on: Feb 07, 2012, 07:33 PM »
hmmm. Looks like I'll be going with scratch build, then. :) My uncle has a lot of experience with bondo, so I may enlist his help.


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« Reply #14 on: Feb 07, 2012, 09:11 PM »
hmmm. Looks like I'll be going with scratch build, then. :) My uncle has a lot of experience with bondo, so I may enlist his help.

If you have someone like that with experience then you should definitely go for it.  Good luck!

 


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