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[Ashen Kelborn]

Anyone have templates for medium armor?

All templates on Merc home page, medium is Jango level Costume Templates and Tutorials, CLICK ME

[CG_Drummer]

If we make the plates look more heavy duty (by adding a second layer of plating on top, or overlapping armor like a knight's shoulder, would that bump it up a class?  Also, If we add non-conventional pieces of plating, such as a lateral neck guard, would that also bump it up?  I would like to use to proper classification during my WIP.

I'm planning about the same amount of armour as Jango, with only 1 or 2 additions.  Apparently in my own head I am now in a grey area...

[Ashen Kelborn]

If we make the plates look more heavy duty (by adding a second layer of plating on top, or overlapping armor like a knight's shoulder, would that bump it up a class?  Also, If we add non-conventional pieces of plating, such as a lateral neck guard, would that also bump it up?  I would like to use to proper classification during my WIP.

Bulking them out doesn't change the level, the amount of plates do.

If you look at the first post it quite clearly shows you and lists the basic coverage that qualifies as that level of armour, if you've not met the minimum requirements of the next level up, then your still the one below.

FIRST POST, PLEASE CLICK ME 

I'm planning about the same amount of armour as Jango, with only 1 or 2 additions.  Apparently in my own head I am now in a grey area...

Jango with additions , depends on what additions I suppose, if bicep, neck and kidney plates then its heavy as below:

•Head - Helmet
•Neck - Neck armor. ARC-style pauldrons are allowed in addition to collar plates, but not in lieu of.
•Upper Torso - Chest plates and abdomen
•Full shoulder - Heavier style shoulder bell that covers the entire shoulder
•Bicep - Bicep armor or elbow and shoulder armor that end up covering this gap
•Forearm - Gauntlets
•Back - Back plate. Capes are allowed in addition to back plates, but not in lieu of.
•Groin - Cod plate. Loincloths are allowed in addition to cod plate, but not in lieu of.
•Thigh - Standard plate coverage or enclosed
•Knee - Separate knee armor or extended shin armor
•Shin - Standard shin type coverage
•Boot - Some form of boot armor
•Backside - Kama or enclosed thigh armor and butt armor

If you are short on any of the above, you are still medium armour, hope that helps

[G-Man]

Would shoulder bells that cover a lot of the shoulder be acceptable for light, something akin to a Stormtroopers shoulder bell.

[Havelock]

I'm pretty sure that just beefing up the shoulders and not adding shins, or thigh plates or whatever, would not move you from light to medium coverage.

[Ashen Kelborn]

I'm pretty sure that just beefing up the shoulders and not adding shins, or thigh plates or whatever, would move you from light to medium coverage.

Bulking them out doesn't change the level, the amount of plates do

This is correct, its still just shoulder armour, just don't go crazy or you'll look top heavy 

below is the first post that outlines things pretty clearly

FIRST POST, PLEASE CLICK ME 



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[Havelock]

Urgh.  Meant to say "...would not move you from light to heavy..."  *sigh*

[Aden be orar]

I'm thinking about making a heavy late crusader build, is this possible though?

[Havelock]

I'm not sure if by "late crusader" you mean Crusader or Neo-Crusader, then yes, you can do a heavy build.  The CRLs for both state that leg armor is highly recommended, but not required, so I assume you can have light, medium, and heavy coverage for both those styles of kit.

[Adenn'Kal]

Hi i would like a clarification, for heavy armor, i was always under the impression that it was a collar that was required. I'm currently upgrading my kit for shock infantry and they state collar piece.

Here you say neck, do you mean a neck armor piece like a dog collar or is there just a mix in terminology ?

Theres been some questions lately about what exactly ARE the armor classifications and what do they entail ? 

Well,  the quick and dirty answer is this..

CRL Minimum =... well... CRL Minimum.
Light = Boba armor
Medium = Jango armor
Heavy = heavy assault

Even thats not 100% accurate, but its a good start.  So.. i will expand a little

CRL Minimum
see Posted CRLs for details.


Light Armor
Light armor is the lightest classification of armor we accept. 

• Head - Helmet
• Shoulder - standard shoulder bells
• Upper Torso - Chest plates and abdomen
• Groin - cod plate, armored loin cloth, or a loin cloth
• Knee - Separate knee armor
• Forearm - Gauntlets
• Back - Back plate. Capes/Dusters are allowed as long as they cover from shoulder to shoulder.

Good example is, of course... Boba Fett.  He has one (1) extra bit that you do NOT need to be classified as Light Armor, and thats the kidney/butt plate.

Medium Armor
Also refered to Jango level armor, and thats accurate.

• Head - Helmet
• Shoulder - standard shoulder bells
• Upper Torso - Chest plates and abdomen
• Knee - Separate knee armor
• Forearm - Gauntlets
• Back - Back plate. Capes/Dusters are allowed as long as they cover from shoulder to shoulder.
• Groin - Cod plate. Loincloths/loin cods are allowed in lieu of.
• Thigh - Standard plate coverage
• Shin - Standard shin type coverage
• Boot - boot plates are required

Heavy Armor
More commonly known as Heavy Assault armor.  Going to this level of coverage is Brigade level,  specifically the Shock Infantry Brigade,  Heavy assault profession. To my knowledge, there are NO cannon sources for this level of coverage, as such i'll be using myself as an example pic for now.

• Head - Helmet
• Neck - Neck armor. ARC-style pauldrons are allowed in addition to collar plates, but not in lieu of.
• Upper Torso - Chest plates and abdomen
• Full shoulder - Heavier style shoulder bell that covers the entire shoulder
• Bicep - Bicep armor or elbow and shoulder armor that end up covering this gap
• Forearm - Gauntlets
• Back - Back plate. Capes are allowed in addition to back plates, but not in lieu of.
• Groin - Cod plate. Loincloths are allowed in addition to cod plate, but not in lieu of.
• Thigh - Standard plate coverage or enclosed
• Knee - Separate knee armor or extended shin armor
• Shin - Standard shin type coverage
• Boot - Some form of boot armor
• Backside - Kama or enclosed thigh armor and butt armor

Thats my app pic from my Brigade application,  i've since added and adjusted several things.  Thats the base level of Heavy Assault, plus throat armor which is not visible in this shot. 

If there are any questions about these Armor Classes, feel free to ask !

[Kris Jasra]

Hi i would like a clarification, for heavy armor, i was always under the impression that it was a collar that was required. I'm currently upgrading my kit for shock infantry and they state collar piece.

Here you say neck, do you mean a neck armor piece like a dog collar or is there just a mix in terminology ?

Apart from the usual collar plate that is required as part of the torso set for every class, Heavy requires some additional form of protection at the neck. Since the word collar is already in use, neck has been used here to try and differentiate the two items.

I do indeed have what looks to be an armoured dog collar, several plates on a leather backing that protects against pesky lightsabre decapitations. Other options are pauldrons (similar to stormtrooper/arc troopers) or to have a raised section on the collar and back plating which would protect the neck.

[Sithico]

From what the list(s) say my planned armor would be a in between light or medium. Mostly will be Boba, but probably would have thigh plates, a gorget, and maybe a kidney plate. Would that be either or would it just be in the middle?

[Ashen Kelborn]

From what the list(s) say my planned armor would be a in between light or medium. Mostly will be Boba, but probably would have thigh plates, a gorget, and maybe a kidney plate. Would that be either or would it just be in the middle?

If you don't fully have what is required as minimum for that armour class EG: missing shins/thighs for medium,  your still classed as the one you do meet the minimum requirement of in this case light armour. 

[Speeps]

Soooooo the plan I’m looking at for my build will comprise of :-

Helmet, Upper Torso set, shoulder,
Bicep,  Gauntlets, Back plate, Cape, Cod plate.
Thigh, Knee, Shin, Boot armour and butt armor.
The only piece missing from making this the minimum heavy level is the Neck piece.

This is my first build too, so is it worth just knocking up something for the neck or just declaring it’s a medium level build BUT with extras?

 

[Sep Ho'ban]

Armor level classification really only matters in terms of qualifying for certain brigades, and it's good guidelines for pieces that go together, but being exactly on the line doesn't really mean much other than the above.