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Title: Akii'su - Death Watch Super Commando Kenobi - Update 11 June
Post by: Hik'aari on Dec 29, 2015, 04:14 PM
Howdy All,

One kit just isn't enough so it is now my intention to build a canon costume.

(http://i.imgur.com/g8aRNzO.jpg)

One of the reasons I settled on this variant is I have the intention to clear with MMCC and 501/UKG as the Canon Mando, then with RL (as I sport a bit of a beard in real life) as Obi-Wan as it is the version he steals once he lands on Mandalore.

I put an order in to EA for various parts at the beginning of December including:
Helmet
Back Plate
Jetpack
Gauntlets with Comms link
Boot Plates

I should be the first person to have a DW 3.0 Helmet. It will apparently be the 2.0 but nicer/cleaner.

I already bought myself the Palladium Pampa Hi (in black canvas) required for this build.

Rather than making Toe armor I have squared off the existing rubber at the front of the shoe

(http://i.imgur.com/Mz11oux.jpg)

The side symbols were also removed.
(http://i.imgur.com/IQcoyfP.jpg)

Both these areas left horrible glue marks/straining/residue. I coloured them in with black permanent marker.... which the following day in sunlight turned them into shiney purple marks. This will not do.

I took the Dremel to them to rid the ridges/diamonds/manufacturers marks
(http://i.imgur.com/h3UnVD1.jpg)

I also used the sander to take back all of the sharpie and glue marks and got back to canvas.... but it also took the dye off so I was left with white boots in places.
I used some black fabric paint and watered it down slightly to use in a misting bottle. The shoes got a covering of this and are being left to dry overnight. I will then heat them up with a heatgun to set the paint tomorrow. The glue marks are now much less noticible. They will never disappear but they are hopefully going to be better now and once the boots are dry I shall photograph.

Due to having back problems (prone to prolapsed disc between L4 and L5) I am taking precautions knowing that I will be having a jetpack.
I got myself a 3 point harness to go underneath everything with a nice thick padded waist in an effort to distribute the load across my torso.

When the Jetpack is bolted to the backplate I will have straps that feed through reinforced holes in vest and flightsuit to additional straps that I will attach to the harness. This will allow me to get it tight to my back (meeting the animation style appearance requirement) and hopefully be the least risky method of causing my back problems.

I also intentionally got this model as it has D rings on the waist. I will be using these to attach drop leg holsters too that will sit underneath my flightsuit. This will allow magnetic thigh holsters so no strapping as per requirements :) More on this when I get round to it

(http://i.imgur.com/MNsH2rJ.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/Fa97JvZ.jpg)

Todays effort also produced these plates. Each pile is two plates.

(http://i.imgur.com/Sogrb7j.jpg)

They have only had a light sanding to take the sharp edges off, but being careful not too much as being an animation they will be squarer than normal armor.

I will still have to create Chest Plates, Cod Plate and 2x Thigh Plate Holsters to template and cut.

I have about 16 meters of material that has been delivered (a mix of drill cotton and drill stretch cotton) all in black. This will be used to custom make the flightsuit and vest to ensure they fit me.

The belt will be created by a leatherworker. I will need to get the flightsuit and vest done so that he can measure me.
I am opting for this approach as I have seen it done before, it looks very effective and it should allow me to still move about/bend over.

The gloves I purchased I had hoped I could remove the manufacturer logos from... but they seem to be heatsealed on.
All my attemtps at heating and acetone were all met with a mess of plastic leaving an exact glue mark in its place of the original symbol anyway.

I have found these which should be plain enough and tight enough to meet the required CRL/BRL for this build
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTYwMFgxMDYy/z/KlEAAOSwj0NUh2GZ/$_57.JPG?set_id=880000500F)

For those of you also interested I have an Obi Ep3 lightsaber being built for me. The manufacturer did a run of 25 empty hilts and I managed to get the last one. All machined parts. The neck actually is machined from copper and bronze (I think, I am no metal expert). When I receive this it will be with electronics and blade ready to go and should have a nice weight/finish to it.

(http://i.imgur.com/utMX3pn.jpg)
Title: Re: Akii'su - Death Watch Super Commando Lieutenant
Post by: Ashen Kelborn on Dec 30, 2015, 04:36 AM
You have a new WIP and never told me  :'(

looks like you have much in hand already, can't wait to see it unfold  ;)
Title: Re: Akii'su - Death Watch Super Commando Kenobi
Post by: Raestin Ke'Varek on Dec 30, 2015, 08:53 AM
This is gonna be so friggin cool!!
Title: Re: Akii'su - Death Watch Super Commando Kenobi
Post by: Werda Adate on Dec 30, 2015, 10:41 AM
I'd like this even just for the title of the post ^^
This is going to be awesome
Title: Re: Akii'su - Death Watch Super Commando Kenobi
Post by: Hik'aari on Dec 31, 2015, 03:27 PM
The boots have now dried. Watered down black fabric paint seems to have done the trick. I think these marks will now be barely noticeable between the over foot plate, heel plate and the flight suit itself

(http://i.imgur.com/RIdqTRF.jpg)

A few hours of work at my desk working from templates, cutting, taping, reassembling and jigging about and I now have these.

(http://i.imgur.com/RcdPfK5.jpg)

I STRONGLY recommend those who are making their first armor to transfer all of the templates they make and ultimately use for their kit to thick cardboard. If a plate ever needs to be reproduced you have a hard wearing template which will save future time :)

The holster part was modified to add an extra 5mm to each of the fold lines to account for the thickness of the material. I also intend to fold the bottom so that it folds up between the side pieces. This should mean the least amount of filler required to seal them and finish them off.

For the cod plate the best idea I can come up with is fold the tabs, fibreglass the inside to create a structure to then fill and smooth the gaps that are created on the outside.

These used up the last of my Foamex so now no more armor progress until after the new year when the shops reopen :(

(http://i.imgur.com/wWwBotw.jpg)

Looks like tomorrow shall be the start of the soft parts
Title: Re: Akii'su - Death Watch Super Commando Kenobi
Post by: Kris Jasra on Jan 03, 2016, 08:33 AM
I can't praise having a full harness for a jetpack enough. Mine is done in a similar fashion and while I don't wear my pack often, when I do I am so glad a large part of the weight is taken by the strapping from the waist.
Title: Re: Akii'su - Death Watch Super Commando Kenobi
Post by: Kitala-Enby on Jan 03, 2016, 09:28 PM
Off to a fying start. Commenting for updates.
Title: Re: Akii'su - Death Watch Super Commando Kenobi
Post by: Hik'aari on Jan 10, 2016, 10:01 AM
Right, I apologise now as this is going to be a monster update that I shall be trying to break down into sections to follow it easier :)

I have been busy busy busy over the past week or so.

Soft Parts

So I ordered a bit more material than I realised....
(http://i.imgur.com/bxpyksW.jpg)

However this produced one neck seal:
(http://i.imgur.com/vlZxZeM.jpg)

The start to my custom fit double-sleeved flight suit. Only the panels of this were cut as we lacked an Overlocker machine to be able to continue.
Certain panels were cut from Black Cotton Drill. Other panels (mainly upper half due to the vest covering) were cut from Black Cotton Stretch Drill. This should allow for me to move about and be able to stretch to help my back not being fatigued. The suit will be tailored to me whilst also allowing me as a minimum to sit such that I can rest.
(http://i.imgur.com/Yy6bhSp.jpg)

The vest is 95% complete. It is in heavy weight black cotton drill, double skinned and padded to give it some thickness. It also meets the Death Watch shoulder requirement of appearing like wings such that they appear to extend the silhouette of the wearer. I still need to insert the Zip into the rear (the one I bought is the length of the vest which is too risky to do) and to hand stitch the top of the shoulder seem from the inside. Being animated Death Watch I should not be showing a top stitch across the top. I shall have to learn to hand sew now.

It has been tailored to me as it is based on my existing vest torso size with modified shoulders for DW requirements.

(http://i.imgur.com/FLDT9PD.jpg)

I shall also be putting on all of the Velcro later this week when I complete the other sewing parts.

(http://i.imgur.com/hSslAUq.jpg)

A reinforced 2 inch gap has been created into the shoulder seem. This allows for a 1.5" parachute clip to cleanly pass. There will be another like this in the flight suit. This will allow for the (black) nylon strapping from the back plate/jetpack to pass through a secure part of the soft parts to the harness I shall be wearing.
(http://i.imgur.com/2ZZRort.jpg)

I also received the gloves which fit. They are a tight black leather with no armour and minimum additional panels. The wrist logo should be covered by the gauntlets as the end of the leather is where my wrist starts so the gauntlets should be coming up to this point.
(http://i.imgur.com/1SvLPdN.jpg)

Weapons

I have obtained a pair of Westar-35 Style pistols as per the Death Watch requirement.
(http://i.imgur.com/Q6nETVW.jpg)

The top gun is my existing Westar-35 that I had become accustomed too. The slight size difference is odd to say the least
(http://i.imgur.com/ifUBjP5.jpg)

They do however better match the size requirement/limitation (depending on how you see it) of the Thigh Holster. More photos of this in a later section.
(http://i.imgur.com/rwmMZa4.jpg)

Whilst not part of the MMCC requirements (as I am also building toward 501 and Rebel Legion) I also have been sent photos of my finished lightsaber build that I should receive in the next week or so (Builder is awaiting on the charger before shipping it)
(http://i.imgur.com/utMX3pn.jpg)

Armor
As this is a mammoth section I have decided to skip over a number of the photos I took during building and will mainly concentrate on the "finished" pieces.
Much cutting of further plates later...
(http://i.imgur.com/AZrF7Sx.jpg)

I was left with an unbent stack of Foamex
(http://i.imgur.com/dtu8FLA.jpg)

An evening of heat shaping later and I had some things
(http://i.imgur.com/vo0ZSEP.jpg)

The holsters have been closed off by folding it into itself, trimming and final bending such that the bottom sits flush with the bottom of the side plates. Once assembled these corners will be sanded, filled and smoothed and repeated until it looks like one piece
(http://i.imgur.com/l5SHXue.jpg)

Showing the fit with the pistols
(http://i.imgur.com/W8IUsvu.jpg)

So the thigh plates have been heat shaped to me, and assembled. The Pistols are also able to sit in the holsters lining up with holster drop cut and leaving both prongs in place. These are now able to be filled, sanded and smoothed to appear as one piece.
(http://i.imgur.com/LARj5Pl.jpg)

The hand armour is the required tombstone shape. The back of the plate stops just short of the bottom of the leather, such that there will be a small gap between it and the gauntlet. The curve also wraps around/over my knuckles as per the images I have been working to
(http://i.imgur.com/tt5Gk4k.jpg)

As you could guess from the earlier chalk marks on my vest my chest plates were cut, shaped and then trimmed to fit me. It seems that I either do not have a symmetrical chest or I didnít make my template symmetrical as one side of the collar had to be trimmed almost twice the amount of the other, but my neck fits the gap perfectly. Once the vest is complete I shall attach these for photos. However the neck and outer plates fill across my chest finishing approx. a thumbs width from the shoulder seem. The vest spacing downward then has the ab plate finishing a thumbs width from the bottom of the vest. Once I can wear the vest without needing clamps to hold it shut I shall take photos and post them with the direct visual comparisons from my reference images.
(http://i.imgur.com/G30Rq6w.jpg)

Lower body plate shaping
(http://i.imgur.com/J5oy8DP.jpg)

The cod plate also has a constant curve right the way across. This now needs to be fibre glassed from behind to reinforce the bottom. It will then be subject to much filling, sanding and smoothing
(http://i.imgur.com/b9DwsYH.jpg)

Rear heel plates
(http://i.imgur.com/43Ei4eV.jpg)

I do not have the boots to direct have for photographs but the outer treads have been further modified to better fit the Death Watch visual appearance. I am also trying (and currently failing) on building up the boot armour into the correct shape without it involving far more filler than I am willing to use.

I shall post further updates once they occur.
Title: Re: Akii'su - Death Watch Super Commando Kenobi - Update 10/1
Post by: Ashen Kelborn on Jan 10, 2016, 11:51 AM
Wow, can't say there hasn't been progress  ;D
Title: Re: Akii'su - Death Watch Super Commando Kenobi - Update 10/1
Post by: Syko Voss on Jan 10, 2016, 01:06 PM
Commenting so I can see how this turns out.

Fantastic progress and great documentation!  Keep going!
Title: Re: Akii'su - Death Watch Super Commando Kenobi - Update 10/1
Post by: Cin Vhe'rang on Jan 11, 2016, 01:20 AM
Personally, I'm a fan of any costume that, with small tweaks, is covered under the Big Three clubs.  :laugh:

Looking good, vod!  Keep it up!
Title: Re: Akii'su - Death Watch Super Commando Kenobi - Update 10/1
Post by: Raestin Ke'Varek on Jan 12, 2016, 10:57 AM
Great work so far ner'vod!   8)
Title: Re: Akii'su - Death Watch Super Commando Kenobi - Update 10/1
Post by: Hik'aari on Jan 12, 2016, 03:04 PM
Small update, spent last few evenings learning how to fill and smooth and resulted in this.
All of the seams and gaps/holes have now been filled so it gives the impression that it is all one piece. Once painted they should look as they do in the animations.

There is a tiny amount of pitting, but at this point once they are painted that will all disappear.

(http://i.imgur.com/ubeWtLL.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/W3cGVU0.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/pXLsoAP.jpg)
Title: Re: Akii'su - Death Watch Super Commando Kenobi - Small Update 12/1
Post by: spideyplumhead on Jan 12, 2016, 04:37 PM
looking good ...cant wait to see how this unfolds
Title: Re: Akii'su - Death Watch Super Commando Kenobi - Small Update 12/1
Post by: Kavryn Falco on Jan 13, 2016, 03:15 PM
This is looking great! Definitely following your progress ;D
Title: Re: Akii'su - Death Watch Super Commando Kenobi - Small Update 12/1
Post by: Tenebris on Jan 14, 2016, 12:20 PM
Can't believe how much you have got done! It's looking awesome.
Title: Re: Akii'su - Death Watch Super Commando Kenobi - Small Update 12/1
Post by: Hik'aari on Jan 24, 2016, 04:59 AM
Ok, bit of an update. In the background I have been working on the vest and chest plates, not a great deal of "WIP" shots to show, as it will just end up being pictures of loose material, so here is the finished item.

(http://i.imgur.com/TcKxUOX.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/6AVQ59L.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/I2CPD0O.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/H2SzDvJ.jpg)

It is measured, and fitted to me, it should allow enough room for a harness to fit underneath. I also need to give it a cold water bath to take out some of the puffiness in it.

Now with the chest plates all mounted

(http://i.imgur.com/oIRL8Hx.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/OwB5I4f.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/DVWmqIF.jpg)

Since the photos the top of the collar plate was reshaped to be flatter, and remove the dip. I will not be trimming it (from side on) until the backplate and jetpack turn up so I can correctly match the vest seams.

Please note this is NOT my helmet, but it is the Eternal Armory's Deathwatch helmet that I have on order to show size against the plates.

(http://i.imgur.com/LAx4fRn.jpg)

I have a whole album of reference images I am working too, this should give an idea of the plate size and spacing I am trying to eumulate

(http://i.imgur.com/S5FrC2E.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/5tdDIrR.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/xIcvnNJ.png)

Next jobs will be spraying all of the inside of the plates black so they can't be noticed, then prime and metallic coat all of the outsides of them
Title: Re: Akii'su - Death Watch Super Commando Kenobi - Small Update 12/1
Post by: Vhett Naast on Feb 07, 2016, 04:14 PM
Quality work man, I'm really digging this. Keep at it!
Title: Re: Akii'su - Death Watch Super Commando Kenobi - Small Update 12/1
Post by: Hik'aari on Feb 07, 2016, 04:38 PM
Quality work man, I'm really digging this. Keep at it!

Many thanks :D

Kicked off the belt today with the leather worker so should be seeing him again later this month
Will be starting the flight suit later this month too
Hoping my stuff from America comes by the end of the month.

Hopefully by this time next month I would have made a few more steps towards something resembling progress :)
Title: Re: Akii'su - Death Watch Super Commando Kenobi - Small Update 12/1
Post by: Kitala-Enby on Feb 07, 2016, 05:36 PM
Very awesome. Can't wait to see more on this.
Title: Re: Akii'su - Death Watch Super Commando Kenobi - Small Update 12/1
Post by: Tenebris on Feb 08, 2016, 05:41 AM
You are fast becoming a pro!

Did you try putting the vest in the bath?
Title: Re: Akii'su - Death Watch Super Commando Kenobi - Small Update 12/1
Post by: Hik'aari on Feb 08, 2016, 01:16 PM
You are fast becoming a pro!

Did you try putting the vest in the bath?

Not yet, I have both vests to do but the weather hasn't been great for knowing I can get them dry again without using a tumble dryer. I do not want to be doing that
Title: Re: Akii'su - Death Watch Super Commando Kenobi - Small Update 12/1
Post by: Hik'aari on Feb 28, 2016, 12:56 PM
Ok, so a bit of an update on this.

I have had the belt commissioned.

Front:
(http://i.imgur.com/Gv1xnr4.jpg)

Rear (left perspective):
(http://i.imgur.com/FBeE3J2.jpg)

Using references images like this it shows the girth belt to be a lighter colour/contrast when against a black flightsuit. It also shows the material above the ammo belt is shorter than the material below so I have had this replicated too.
(http://i.imgur.com/HUUAZM7.png)

I just require weathering on the ammo belt to lighten it slightly/add age. This will be done during the painting and weather of the whole kit.

I have also cold washed and ironed the vest a few times and this shows how much puffiness/bulk has been taken out
(http://i.imgur.com/m3BPLjX.jpg)

So in terms of layering for my kit I now have...

Harness layer
(http://i.imgur.com/sMxznAv.jpg)

Black flightsuit with double sleeve requirement. I have made this to fit my dimensions. The upper portion is made from a cotton stretch material. This is to allow me some sort of movement to ensure my back stays healthy during a troop. This suit in its current state also allows me to sit. I need be able to sit to rest during a long troop otherwise I am prone to issues with my disc between L4 and L5 in my back. It has prolapsed before, or it can push against the nerves casuing me shooting leg pains.

(http://i.imgur.com/D8MlN6V.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/oYhTzt2.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/z1EraJu.jpg)

The stretch material makes it appear the chest is wider than it is (and the arms longer than they really are).

With the Vest on it pulls all of the chest back in as the vest is made to measure on my torso dimensions. At this point however I have so many black layers the camera really struggles to find a happy setting. I am going to have to try and wait for a really sunny day (which in the UK isn't soon being winter) to get even more light in to help.

We have also lent out our sewing machine, once we get it back I plan to sew an extra square of material over the buttons to avoid them showing between the vest and girth.

(http://i.imgur.com/PoubpBk.jpg)

Showing the belt side panel requirements
(http://i.imgur.com/bZjHzg1.jpg)

The belt does do up straight, I had a non-Mando helper to dress me and photograph me and I didnt notice this until afterwards
(http://i.imgur.com/lNjmaYk.jpg)

Side requirement met both sides
(http://i.imgur.com/G7ptc0J.jpg)

I had to position the plates myself in the mirror for these photos, so they are not aligned/positioned perfectly (you can see my previous photos for positioning)
(http://i.imgur.com/ryOneM1.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/koF2kPL.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/v5Lwx6V.jpg)

I have some more minor adjustments to make to them to now account for the harness I am wearing, I will have to do this next time I meet up with some of my clan.

With the size of the girth belt (and the fact that I have short legs) I am having to remake the thigh plates. They have been shrunk to 85% original size
(http://i.imgur.com/CoQvvJO.jpg)

Guns in this image are a placeholder for size only
(http://i.imgur.com/yctPM9d.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/Xq3KXw8.jpg)

These have also been bent and I am now working on filling and sanding. Slowly chipping away at each job and hope to be getting the base coats of paint down soon
Title: Re: Akii'su - Death Watch Super Commando Kenobi - Update 28/02
Post by: 3mandos on Feb 28, 2016, 01:05 PM
awesome
Title: Re: Akii'su - Death Watch Super Commando Kenobi - Update 28/02
Post by: Vhett Naast on Feb 28, 2016, 03:31 PM
Plate positioning may not be perfect, but its darn near close. You've definitely got the layout down right, very clean likeness to the show.
Title: Re: Akii'su - Death Watch Super Commando Kenobi - Update 28/02
Post by: Vailin Flynn on Feb 29, 2016, 07:58 AM
Looks awesome, vod!

The socks are a nice touch as well  :D
Title: Re: Akii'su - Death Watch Super Commando Kenobi - Update 28/02
Post by: Kitala-Enby on Feb 29, 2016, 10:15 AM
this looks amazing. Well done.

Is the middle belt leather? I always thought it was metal. in a lot of pics they look to be metal belt boxes, painted with the same gun metal colour as the armour.

I'm also a tough concerned with that flight suit button that is showing between the vest and belt. is the belt just slipping down a bit in this pic? or will it always be like that?
Title: Re: Akii'su - Death Watch Super Commando Kenobi - Update 28/02
Post by: Kol Varek on Feb 29, 2016, 10:20 AM
Normally this is the point where I grumble grumble about Death Watch, but this is the one exception! I'm very interested in that belt, I might have to consider making one as a replacement for my current rig. If you have any sort of build process, templates, or tutorials, I'd be very interested.
Title: Re: Akii'su - Death Watch Super Commando Kenobi - Update 28/02
Post by: Hik'aari on Feb 29, 2016, 01:16 PM
this looks amazing. Well done.

Is the middle belt leather? I always thought it was metal. in a lot of pics they look to be metal belt boxes, painted with the same gun metal colour as the armour.

I have seen other Mercs be approved as a Canon DW with this belt (it is one of the reasons I had it made from the same place)
Once weathered it should lighten up. Having seen the belts with the hard boxes they don't tend to sit and move as they did in the animations. This way it has a small amount of flex to move with me as I walk and mimic that look from the animation.

Also under the BRLs for the Canon "Mauldalorian" it states: "Must be charcoal grey/black solid material (plastic, rubber, cured leather, metal, etc.)"

I'm also a tough concerned with that flight suit button that is showing between the vest and belt. is the belt just slipping down a bit in this pic? or will it always be like that?

Before approval those buttons will be covered. I explained in the text that we have lent out our family Sewing machine to a friend so I cannot make a piece to cover them over right now :( I appreciate it was a pretty big wall of text and images though :)

Normally this is the point where I grumble grumble about Death Watch, but this is the one exception! I'm very interested in that belt, I might have to consider making one as a replacement for my current rig. If you have any sort of build process, templates, or tutorials, I'd be very interested.

Oooo what is it you normally grumble about?
I commissioned this to be made. Try contacting a local leather worker about it and I am sure they could help
Title: Re: Akii'su - Death Watch Super Commando Kenobi - Update 28/02
Post by: Kol Varek on Feb 29, 2016, 03:05 PM
Oooo what is it you normally grumble about?

My character's True Mandalorian. They were at war with the Death Watch before the Clone Wars, so...ya.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Akii'su - Death Watch Super Commando Kenobi - Update 28/02
Post by: Kitala-Enby on Mar 01, 2016, 05:26 PM
Awesome on both points. i actually read the whole thing at the flight suit i think i just missed that part, Looking forward to more :)
Title: Re: Akii'su - Death Watch Super Commando Kenobi - Update 28/02
Post by: Sto-Las Amari on Mar 04, 2016, 01:22 AM
Love it!!! Can't wait to see the finished product Vod!
Title: Re: Akii'su - Death Watch Super Commando Kenobi - Update 28/02
Post by: Hik'aari on Mar 14, 2016, 02:34 PM
So, only a short update this time

Everything that I have made from foamex is now primed and metallic coats on
(http://i.imgur.com/uR3ii8X.jpg)

I have also had all of my other plates I have been waiting on turn up from EA so this shall be my next time sink of cutting, assembling, prepping and painting
(http://i.imgur.com/c8tzytr.jpg)

I am however looking ahead to the next paint colours.

So I am only concentrating on the plates for the lower half of the body.

(http://i.imgur.com/zKRd0Ci.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/HUUAZM7.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/TxNRqGn.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/DtgGzy6.png)

So based on these images, that show the kit in various light settings I believe that the leg plates are all a very dark colour. I am thinking Matt black. The colour does not seem that indifferent to the flight suit, just the texture as such.

I believe that it will be matt black. An appropriate amount of weathering with wire wool to bring the damage in, and on places like the knees, tops of the shins, raised corners of the thigh plate holsters, etc take it right back through to metallic in places followed bu a light black wash to take the shine off.

Does anyone else have any further insight to add before I find time to start painting like this?

I believe that black makes far more sense than silver (as we don't really have Canon CRLs for this build) as it is replicating Mauls colours. The Canon CRLs for the captain version of this do state charcoal grey/black for the plates that match which was my other reasoning.
Title: Re: Akii'su - Death Watch Super Commando Kenobi - Update 14/03
Post by: Vhett Naast on Mar 14, 2016, 03:14 PM
I think you've got the right idea for the leg plates. Looking at the thigh especially in some of those shots compared to the cod and ab plate, you can definitely tell the color difference.

You'll definietly want to work them over with some steel wool and weathering washes like you said, to get that almost charcoal/somewhat hazy look to them
Title: Re: Akii'su - Death Watch Super Commando Kenobi - Update 14/03
Post by: CrackSabbath on Mar 15, 2016, 11:33 PM
Looks great vod!

Definitely inspiring me to move a bit faster than the snail's pace I'm moving on my DW kit.  I'm especially interested to see how you work the harness in with the jet pack.  Also love the idea of the magnets for the thigh holsters as I was worried that snaps and velcro alone would still leave them floppy as the Westar's are heavy.

Title: Re: Akii'su - Death Watch Super Commando Kenobi - Update 14/03
Post by: Kitala-Enby on Mar 16, 2016, 06:38 AM
Re paint. Something I see a lot of people miss out is the DW blue underlayer to the paint. If you look at the helmets it is most clear that its their old death watch armour repainted as opposed to new armour all together. Id say to go for maximum accuracy. At least give a bit of death watch blue under the T visor and shoulders. If you really want me to fan girl you could actuallygo asfar to paint the old shoulder sigils on and have them partly visable through paint texture (the masked off areawould be slightly raised and give some more depth to the paint) and a tiny bit of weathering. This is just a nit picking thing you might wabt to think about.
Title: Re: Akii'su - Death Watch Super Commando Kenobi - Update 14/03
Post by: Ashen Kelborn on Mar 16, 2016, 07:29 AM
Re paint. Something I see a lot of people miss out is the DW blue underlayer to the paint. If you look at the helmets it is most clear that its their old death watch armour repainted as opposed to new armour all together. Id say to go for maximum accuracy. At least give a bit of death watch blue under the T visor and shoulders. If you really want me to fan girl you could actuallygo asfar to paint the old shoulder sigils on and have them partly visable through paint texture (the masked off areawould be slightly raised and give some more depth to the paint) and a tiny bit of weathering. This is just a nit picking thing you might wabt to think about.

Now I know that would a cool idea, it wouldn't be screen accurate doing so as that's the ambient lighting that's making it blue and not logical paint layering progression.
I've looked over that episode allot for my super commando captain and the animators haven't thought as far as logical paint layering progression at all, its why all the grunts have same weathering patterns bar their helmets.
they have allot of animation to do without allot of time for the smaller detail of being layered over the last skin, only to wipe and add a new one

This is what most people see as being blue under it when its the lighting
(http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee43/reapwind/Mauldalorian%20Luitenant%201/obi-wan-maul-mando-680x866_zpsm22fivrf.jpg)


With the ambient lighting taken out in the hanger the "blue" bits look more like what the animators use for the base metal or what I can only see as a pigment error as it doesn't show anywhere else on the armour
(http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee43/reapwind/Mauldalorian%20Luitenant%201/Kenobi%20from%20Lawless%20Close%20up%207_zps4ksqqgvc.jpg)
(http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee43/reapwind/Mauldalorian%20Luitenant%201/Kenobi%20from%20Lawless%20Close%20up%201_zpsc7oasjew.jpg)
Other Grunts in open air
(http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee43/reapwind/Mauldalorian%20Luitenant%201/Kenobi%20from%20Lawless%20239_zpshg0ettai.jpg)
Title: Re: Akii'su - Death Watch Super Commando Kenobi - Update 14/03
Post by: eqdizzle on Mar 16, 2016, 05:10 PM
We might have had this same debate on the BHG, but the bucket pretty clearly shows blue peeking through the red.  As far as the lower leg armor goes, you'd be looking at dark charcoal grey rather than a pure black.  Use black for weathering and a bit of the lighter grey as accent and edge lighting as well.

Rustoleum Dark Metallic Charcoal is a good choice for your base coat on these, weathering with a Flat or Satin black and some flat or satin light grey and a flat aluminum for the bare metal look.

Title: Re: Akii'su - Death Watch Super Commando Kenobi - Update 14/03
Post by: Ashen Kelborn on Mar 16, 2016, 06:25 PM
We might have had this same debate on the BHG, but the bucket pretty clearly shows blue peeking through the red.

Yes we did and I still hold to it being an error as its not present anywhere else in the kit, nor in anyone else's kit that have done it.
its an unnecessary detail as it makes no sense as to why its there on this one section being that of the visor than anywhere else.

 
Title: Re: Akii'su - Death Watch Super Commando Kenobi - Update 14/03
Post by: Kitala-Enby on Mar 16, 2016, 06:51 PM
Yes we did and I still hold to it being an error as its not present anywhere else in the kit, nor in anyone else's kit that have done it.
its an unnecessary detail as it makes no sense as to why its there on this one section being that of the visor than anywhere else.

 

Perhaps it's because the only blue on the DW Grunt kit is on the helmet face. the rest of their armour is just silver like jango or a darkish grey colour and that's all showing through through the kit. Tbh I think that the only bits repainted are the red pieces and the black pieces and that on this grunt they actually didn't repaint the ab and cod which is why they look like a much more weathered visla DW grunt.

most DW members only had a blue visor. Only visla and a few others had blue anywhere else and even then it was pretty seldom seemingly only on himself and on specialist kits.
Title: Re: Akii'su - Death Watch Super Commando Kenobi - Update 14/03
Post by: Ashen Kelborn on Mar 16, 2016, 09:06 PM
Perhaps it's because the only blue on the DW Grunt kit is on the helmet face. the rest of their armour is just silver like jango or a darkish grey colour and that's all showing through through the kit. Tbh I think that the only bits repainted are the red pieces and the black pieces and that on this grunt they actually didn't repaint the ab and cod which is why they look like a much more weathered visla DW grunt.

most DW members only had a blue visor. Only visla and a few others had blue anywhere else and even then it was pretty seldom seemingly only on himself and on specialist kits.

That is actually a very interesting point as I've admittedly not looked backward like that in only the helmet
(http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee43/reapwind/Mauldalorians/Clonewarsdeathwatch_zps139fb66c.jpg)

I've mostly till now been working from Super Commando A's asset picture for the colours and it doesn't have a blue but has same weathering pattern, but Super Commando B has different lid, so maybe I should have not been so inflexible  :rolleyes:
(http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee43/reapwind/Mauldalorians/mandalore-super-commando_zps3296e328.jpg)
Title: Re: Akii'su - Death Watch Super Commando Kenobi - Update 14/03
Post by: Hik'aari on Mar 17, 2016, 02:10 AM
Very interesting discussions here. Having looked at that last image of the original deathwatch kits it does seem that it is just the "frame" of the helmet that is blue. I shall have to enquire if they do a small can of paint for me to add this little touch to
Title: Re: Akii'su - Death Watch Super Commando Kenobi - Update 14/03
Post by: eqdizzle on Mar 17, 2016, 09:07 AM
Perhaps it's because the only blue on the DW Grunt kit is on the helmet face. the rest of their armour is just silver like jango or a darkish grey colour and that's all showing through through the kit. Tbh I think that the only bits repainted are the red pieces and the black pieces and that on this grunt they actually didn't repaint the ab and cod which is why they look like a much more weathered visla DW grunt.

most DW members only had a blue visor. Only visla and a few others had blue anywhere else and even then it was pretty seldom seemingly only on himself and on specialist kits.

That makes 10000000% sense.  The gauntlets and lack of other accessories (like shin darts and toe disc shooter) on these are the same for both the DW Grunts and the SC Grunts, the only hard-part difference being the short rocket (on most) vs. S2's tall rockets (on all).
Title: Re: Akii'su - Death Watch Super Commando Kenobi - Update 14/03
Post by: Kitala-Enby on Mar 17, 2016, 09:15 AM
That is actually a very interesting point as I've admittedly not looked backward like that in only the helmet

I've mostly till now been working from Super Commando A's asset picture for the colours and it doesn't have a blue but has same weathering pattern, but Super Commando B has different lid, so maybe I should have not been so inflexible  :rolleyes:

I wouldn't worry about it. you'd actually swayed me with that point till i looked up the original DW armour.

Nip. I really like the colour. so if you buy a can of jango coloured paint. I'll happily buy the remains off of you at celebration :).
Title: Re: Akii'su - Death Watch Super Commando Kenobi - Update 14/03
Post by: eqdizzle on Mar 17, 2016, 10:29 AM
Very interesting discussions here. Having looked at that last image of the original deathwatch kits it does seem that it is just the "frame" of the helmet that is blue. I shall have to enquire if they do a small can of paint for me to add this little touch to

Rustoleum Sail Blue is what I used for the main blue on my Airborne and the Mrs' Bo.
Title: Re: Akii'su - Death Watch Super Commando Kenobi - Update 14/03
Post by: Ashen Kelborn on Mar 17, 2016, 10:46 AM
Rustoleum Sail Blue is what I used for the main blue on my Airborne and the Mrs' Bo.

Any idea what that is in paints in uk or a swatch to match?
Title: Re: Akii'su - Death Watch Super Commando Kenobi - Update 14/03
Post by: LordMitchell on Mar 17, 2016, 11:30 AM
Well this is a very interesting thread! How is it possible i only see this now?
Definetly follow this. :D

Michiel
Title: Re: Akii'su - Death Watch Super Commando Kenobi - Update 14/03
Post by: eqdizzle on Mar 17, 2016, 02:44 PM
Any idea what that is in paints in uk or a swatch to match?

From what I've read, it's possible to get Rustoleum in the UK now.  Here is the UPC and SKU information:

7724830 Sail Blue 020066772482

I did not find a color code, but I will tell you it is darker than my 501st Clone (Brilliant Blue) and lighter than a Royal Blue:

http://www.rustoleum.com/product-catalog/consumer-brands/stops-rust/protective-enamel-spray/
Title: Re: Akii'su - Death Watch Super Commando Kenobi - Update 14/03
Post by: Hik'aari on Mar 17, 2016, 03:27 PM
OK,

So using this image I found on the internet for the colour

(http://www.homedepot.com/catalog/productImages/400/cb/cb6f59bf-0ef7-4b37-855d-3aec4770b45e_400.jpg)

I can extract from it the colour code in HTML as 2E6EAE
This then converted into RAL codes would be approx "RAL 5023 Distant Blue"
I think due to this being a basecoat colour this will work out approximately correct. It is not as super critical it is 100% right (like eqdizzle would need) as I would rather get the same paint supply as the red's etc to minimise mixing brand issues.
Title: Re: Akii'su - Death Watch Super Commando Kenobi - Update 14/03
Post by: eqdizzle on Mar 17, 2016, 03:48 PM
OK,

So using this image I found on the internet for the colour

(http://www.homedepot.com/catalog/productImages/400/cb/cb6f59bf-0ef7-4b37-855d-3aec4770b45e_400.jpg)

I can extract from it the colour code in HTML as 2E6EAE
This then converted into RAL codes would be approx "RAL 5023 Distant Blue"
I think due to this being a basecoat colour this will work out approximately correct. It is not as super critical it is 100% right (like eqdizzle would need) as I would rather get the same paint supply as the red's etc to minimise mixing brand issues.

I agree with you on not needing it to be 100% correct.  In fact, our PT Kenobi here grabbed my old bucket and we'll be doing the conversion soon..!
Title: Re: Akii'su - Death Watch Super Commando Kenobi - Update 14/03
Post by: Hik'aari on Mar 17, 2016, 03:58 PM
I agree with you on not needing it to be 100% correct.  In fact, our PT Kenobi here grabbed my old bucket and we'll be doing the conversion soon..!

Oooooo I hope this will be on the boards :)
Title: Re: Akii'su - Death Watch Super Commando Kenobi - Update 14/03
Post by: eqdizzle on Mar 17, 2016, 04:16 PM
This is what we'll be working with:

(http://i1144.photobucket.com/albums/o493/eqdizzle/StL%20Cardinals%20Star%20Wars%20Night/DSC_3685_zps4781d21b.jpg) (http://s1144.photobucket.com/user/eqdizzle/media/StL%20Cardinals%20Star%20Wars%20Night/DSC_3685_zps4781d21b.jpg.html)

Looking at a S2 Grunt, my Airborne, the Mrs' Bo, and the OB1.  Should be a pretty killer squad!!
Title: Re: Akii'su - Death Watch Super Commando Kenobi - Update 14/03
Post by: Tenebris on Mar 17, 2016, 04:21 PM
My blue might be ok as a base layer......worth a test piece as you only need a little bit on the visor.
Title: Re: Akii'su - Death Watch Super Commando Kenobi - Update 14/03
Post by: Hik'aari on Apr 20, 2016, 02:45 PM
Holy thread revival Batman!

This is slowly being worked on in the background. Between waiting on parts, being ill and doing upgrades to my first kit this one went on the back burner, but I am attempting to get back around to it now.

So all of the lower plates made from Foamex have all been painted a Matt black now. Then naturally weathered using wire wool. I referenced the screencaps I have taken from the episode and tried to think about how the damage was applied, what direction the plates would be moving to make the contact and where the raised sections were.

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(http://i.imgur.com/HUUAZM7.png)

From this picture I picked out the main damage to replicate was the "V" that goes around the cod, as well as the circular weathering pattern on the front.

(http://i.imgur.com/gRKGnPq.jpg)

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(http://i.imgur.com/3bBVoHW.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/zKRd0Ci.png)

From these two images I picked out the knees and shins. I could see that one knee had sweeping damage across it, whilst the other had damage picked out around the corners and some of the edges. Where they would naturally catch on something on the sides, collide on each other on the inside and knock into the shin plates below them.

With the shin plates I could see the tops were weathered heavier than the bottoms, I imagined from kneeling, catching a shin climbing up and down onto things etc. Once again the bottoms where they would catch on the (future) boot plates.

(http://i.imgur.com/rf1pBVg.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/TORSKsO.jpg)

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(http://i.imgur.com/N2VLtvg.png)

So from this image it can be seen the thigh plates aren't that heavily weathered. They are relatively black, no where near as weathered as the cod. Combined with the previous two reference pictures there is just some damage to pick out on a few corners, then on the holsters themselves where they stick out. I also imagined there would be some wear where the guns are holstered and unholstered.

(http://i.imgur.com/j7bsNXC.jpg)

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I also took the same approach for the hand plates. For the rear boot plates I applied the same logic and weathered them to be in keeping with the rest as it was difficult to see any clear images of them.

(http://i.imgur.com/tKVBjLG.jpg)

All of these plates will need a light black wash to add some grime and take off some of the shine, this will be done after everything else has been painted so it can all be black washed together to give the desired effect.

************

I also now have a helmet :D

(http://i.imgur.com/oJiXyos.jpg)
Title: Re: Akii'su - Death Watch Super Commando Kenobi - Update 20/04
Post by: Raestin Ke'Varek on Apr 20, 2016, 03:40 PM
Grats on the helmet ner'vod!  The weathering on those plates is fantastic.  Based on the screenshots, I'd say you nailed them very accurately.  :D
Title: Re: Akii'su - Death Watch Super Commando Kenobi - Update 20/04
Post by: Kitala-Enby on Apr 20, 2016, 04:25 PM
amazing.
Title: Re: Akii'su - Death Watch Super Commando Kenobi - Update 20/04
Post by: Vhett Naast on Apr 20, 2016, 05:05 PM
Seems you did a real good job of matching the weathering to the screen shots, nice work!
Title: Re: Akii'su - Death Watch Super Commando Kenobi - Update 20/04
Post by: Kol Varek on Apr 20, 2016, 05:10 PM
You continue to impress. Superb work.
Title: Re: Akii'su - Death Watch Super Commando Kenobi - Update 20/04
Post by: Tenebris on Apr 22, 2016, 03:26 AM
Looks amazing, very accurate!
Title: Re: Akii'su - Death Watch Super Commando Kenobi - Update 20/04
Post by: Syko Voss on Apr 22, 2016, 10:59 AM
Lovely stuff! 
Title: Re: Akii'su - Death Watch Super Commando Kenobi - Update 20/04
Post by: spideyplumhead on Apr 22, 2016, 12:13 PM
lovely job on the weathering ....definitely looking like the clone wars images 
Title: Re: Akii'su - Death Watch Super Commando Kenobi - Update 20/04
Post by: Hik'aari on May 01, 2016, 07:12 AM
So last weekend I spent some time working through some more parts:

Helmet visor and keyslots cut out
(http://i.imgur.com/mFI1S2u.jpg)

Pro tip: It is worth notching these out, they make visor install a lot easier!
(http://i.imgur.com/BgS2lwE.jpg)

So with the visor installed :)
(http://i.imgur.com/2E2AkoU.jpg)

Top Boot plates and back plate have been trimmed up. I may need to split and thin them to suit my frame. This cannot be done now without help (as I cant see my own back to judge against reference photos)
(http://i.imgur.com/jjwF2So.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/d1UsuPg.jpg)

This is as far as I have gotten with the jetpack (well slightly further but didnt get a final photo)

I took material out of the tubes here to make the whole structure lighter (and you can feel the difference)
(http://i.imgur.com/9XsLj9g.jpg)

I have also attached the center pipe for the centre rocket, but it needs to be trimmed on one side or the rocket sits off center.
(http://i.imgur.com/Pm1yP8C.jpg)

Updates will be a bit slower now as I have some troops on a few weekends this month. Hoping to have it ready for Celebration but even that will be very tight
Title: Re: Akii'su - Death Watch Super Commando Kenobi - Update 01/05
Post by: Vhett Naast on May 01, 2016, 03:48 PM
Looking good man!

That is a great tip on the visor installation, I've never thought of that one.
Title: Re: Akii'su - Death Watch Super Commando Kenobi - Update 01/05
Post by: Kol Varek on May 01, 2016, 05:54 PM
Someone must be an engineer  8) would've never thought of that weight saver!
Title: Re: Akii'su - Death Watch Super Commando Kenobi - Update 01/05
Post by: Hik'aari on May 15, 2016, 09:33 AM
*Massive Picture Dump Update incomming*

A very busy build day yesterday and during the evenings this week has led me to this point.

All I can say is that until it got to the point of painting to pictures I had horrifically underestimated how weathered, damaged and beat up Kenobi's disguise armor is. The more reference photos I looked at the more damage I found. It was also a surreal weathering experience. Having to use brush strokes to mimic the brushstrokes the animators used in the show. Anyway, photo time

Helmet
Seeing as this is everyone's favorite part let's just start here.

Reference photo's worked from:
(http://i.imgur.com/gWBOZ4v.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/5tdDIrR.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/U3mgDTW.png)

Actual helmet:

After much more analysis of the reference photos it was decided that there is a Jango under a Death Watch :P

(http://i.imgur.com/rMNa0Mp.jpg)

Jump ahead a few steps and the black has been applied and tatoo's cut out. I swear this patterning took me 2.5 hours and many templates thrown away to get corrct!

(http://i.imgur.com/cXXfonl.jpg)


4 head tattoo's of symetrical design with the small central triangle.
The outer tattoo extends and finishes in line with the end of the eye slot. (See ref pic 3)
The inner tattoo extends and finishes in line with the earcap. (See ref pic 3)
The "Flash" shaped cheek tattoo's
The blue weathering showing through the front Mandables, earcaps and around the rim

(http://i.imgur.com/D1luP1t.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/KQlmNpe.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/pcurs1u.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/ceVmBse.jpg)

Daytime photos:
(http://i.imgur.com/lFJNFay.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/O3uLVZv.jpg)

********************************************************************
Jetpack

Rockets are now attached.
(http://i.imgur.com/8bOVQSJ.jpg)

Thrusters set at an outward angle as per reference photos
(http://i.imgur.com/p2ibUDb.jpg)

There will be an internal wooden frame made so that it can be strapped through to my harness securely, as well as giving the back piece something to bolt down onto. The jetpack will then be bolted through onto the backplate so it is all one unit. This will achieve the "high sitting" jetpack as per the animations

(http://i.imgur.com/q0epLrw.jpg)

Due to this I am opting for a flat backed closure
(http://i.imgur.com/8aT8PW9.jpg)

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Backplate

A large wedge of material has been cut from the center of the plate. This has left the top width approximately the same to ensure the shoulder tabs still line up with the collar. It does now mean the bottom of the backplate is more in proportion to me and the jetpack to keep in ratio with the animation.

The shoulders were also darted and rolled to close the gap. Once this is sanded and complete some black foam will be used to sit it onto me comfortably and close any remaining gap. This needs to be done as in the animations the backplate changes dimensions (as well as bending in non-physics agreed shapes) to always keep the flat back for the jetback and magically fill space to the characters back which we cannot replicate in the real world.

(http://i.imgur.com/4KxYUIC.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/a03md8Y.jpg)

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Chest Plates

Reference Photos:

Chest plates
(http://i.imgur.com/35oMb85.png)

Left Shoulder
(http://i.imgur.com/TGdymmt.png)

Right Shoulder
(http://i.imgur.com/U3mgDTW.png)

Actual Plates: (Note: Photos have been taken in direct sunlight making colours appear lighter, in contrast to reference photos are from indoor scene making armor darker)

The plates were placed on the vest without wearing it just to display the plates together. This is not the finalised spacing.

The plates were metallic, grey, weathering, red, weathering, black spray, weathering. In doing so the various levels and colours of weathering have been picked out.
As can be seen the light spots have been picked out on the corners of armor, the ab plate has the matching red streak marks, the general damage markings and the "dusting" of dirt and grime across the rest keeping the aesthetic.

(http://i.imgur.com/nYPmK92.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/pDlGdDw.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/t7InfCo.jpg)

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Lower Body Plates

In the painting of the rest of the kit and further analysis of the lower leg plates it was deemed that painting them black is inaccurate.
The colours change through the episode (which is annoying) but when its still positions (opposed to action sequences) the plates always seem lighter and clearer.
With this in mind the plates were repainted metallic, Grey, weathering, black spray, weathering.

It is agreed that the thigh plates are indeed black. They are always very dark and do not change. In contrast to this though the Cod and Knees and shins are always much lighter in contrast. Similar in fact to the Ab plate and if we accept that the Ab plate in indeed a Grey then so much the lower plates (with appropriate weathering and grime).

Reference Photos:
(http://i.imgur.com/v08hI3C.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/3bBVoHW.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/lrvH4f6.png)

Actual Photos:
(http://i.imgur.com/NWB6Iq7.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/DXoYBJt.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/3Y2I2rR.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/UUFZqZr.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/1San1u8.jpg)

********************************************************************
Now to carry on with the never ending list of remaining parts...
Title: Re: Akii'su - Death Watch Super Commando Kenobi - Update 15 May
Post by: Syko Voss on May 15, 2016, 10:12 AM
Terrific work and a super reference resource for this kit!
Title: Re: Akii'su - Death Watch Super Commando Kenobi - Update 15 May
Post by: Kol Varek on May 15, 2016, 10:17 PM
Only thing I'd suggest is darkening down the blue a bit more, doesn't seem as bright to me, but maybe that's just my eyes. Your eye for detail though...can I borrow those eyes sometime?  :P
Title: Re: Akii'su - Death Watch Super Commando Kenobi - Update 15 May
Post by: Hik'aari on May 24, 2016, 04:09 PM
Update time

Backplate

Reference photos:

Weathering patterns of top and side
(http://i.imgur.com/p7Ynd12.png)

Right shoulder corner
(http://i.imgur.com/lFsufLp.png)

Left shoulder and side
(http://i.imgur.com/TGdymmt.png)

Actual photos

So many loops of painting, sanding, filling, painting, sanding, etc etc got me to this point with the backplate

(http://i.imgur.com/KI60OQK.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/ipycSCp.jpg)

Once painted this is greatly improved over photos I am not showing :p

So it was metallic coat, weathering, Grey coat, more tape and weathering
(http://i.imgur.com/jFSm3xb.jpg)

It looks far too clean... I don't like it
(http://i.imgur.com/Kju08YB.jpg)

Then this is weathered, overspray with black and more weathering
(http://i.imgur.com/9HT3NMx.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/uStBhd2.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/VTLphTF.jpg)

Finished with a clearcoat. This knocks the black back slightly and brightens the red to match the rest of the armor
(http://i.imgur.com/CjdHYeQ.jpg)

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Jetpack

What was a fair few hours in the shed a solid plate of metal was turned into a support frame. This has been attached each side with three screws into the pipe.
The straps can then take the weight and allow me to hang the jetpack securely.
The 4 central bolts pass through the backing and (once the holes are drilled) will pass through the backplate to secure them together.
The straps will also be cut to pass through the backplate to then connect onto my harness under the armor.

(http://i.imgur.com/xUMKaNI.jpg)

These nuts are purely placeholders. I plan on using the large washers plus Nyloc's for the final fit.

(http://i.imgur.com/x9oGzcp.jpg)

I have got primer, metallic and clearcoat so far
(http://i.imgur.com/baTtO6W.jpg)

More may get painted tomorrow, but with a weekend con coming up I may revert to packing and organising my existing costume.
Title: Re: Akii'su - Death Watch Super Commando Kenobi - Update 24 May
Post by: Senpai on May 24, 2016, 04:50 PM
This looks awesome. I like the idea about the harness.
Could you please provide infor on where you got that harness and how you will strap in the back to it  :D


Thanks, keep up the good work.
Title: Re: Akii'su - Death Watch Super Commando Kenobi - Update 24 May
Post by: Raestin Ke'Varek on May 24, 2016, 05:08 PM
Excellent work so far ner'vod!  I think you've done a great job matching up to the reference photos.  :D
Title: Re: Akii'su - Death Watch Super Commando Kenobi - Update 24 May
Post by: Vhett Naast on May 24, 2016, 10:48 PM
Sharp work man! That jetpack looks complicated!
Title: Re: Akii'su - Death Watch Super Commando Kenobi - Update 24 May
Post by: Syko Voss on May 25, 2016, 02:08 AM
Fantastic stuff - really impressive work, sir!
Title: Re: Akii'su - Death Watch Super Commando Kenobi - Update 24 May
Post by: spideyplumhead on May 25, 2016, 01:10 PM
loving this build ....attention to detail and references is fantastic
Title: Re: Akii'su - Death Watch Super Commando Kenobi - Update 24 May
Post by: KrisNoble on May 29, 2016, 02:24 AM
Ambitious project coming together well, amazing attention to detail!!
Title: Re: Akii'su - Death Watch Super Commando Kenobi - Update 24 May
Post by: Kyri on Jun 03, 2016, 04:14 PM
Very impressive work you have done here, genius kit!
Title: Re: Akii'su - Death Watch Super Commando Kenobi - Update 24 May
Post by: Hik'aari on Jun 05, 2016, 10:09 AM
OK, so bit a jumpy update now, I didn't take many photo's as I was going along as I was too busy just trying to get through the list of jobs.

So Jetpack is painted up
(http://i.imgur.com/soJdW9Y.jpg)

This is the backplate modification required to fit them together
(http://i.imgur.com/ycArMvj.jpg)

The Cod is affixed to the belt with a wide piece of Velcro
(http://i.imgur.com/iTjMj7j.jpg)

Boot plates painted, weathered and coated as per the other leg plates.
The reference images for these are sparse, so I matched the ones I could and then appropriated the weathering as per the other leg plates
(http://i.imgur.com/Vjc1fs2.jpg)

So at this stage I did a test kit up to see what's what.

Note: I was dressed by a (sleepy) family member for this first test fit. For real application photo's I will be seeking out another Merc to ensure my plates placement and spacing are all correct and photo's as per requirements

(http://i.imgur.com/6vgDTMN.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/JsUkqrY.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/JICrrLY.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/4qf6eBW.jpg)

Feedback welcomed
Title: Re: Akii'su - Death Watch Super Commando Kenobi - Update 05 June
Post by: Tenebris on Jun 06, 2016, 02:35 AM
Wow.....you've levelled up. That's some nice work. You are all making me want a second kit now ive finished the small persons.

The only things Im seeing (which im sure you have totally got covered) Is the back of the knees need to come In, are you elastic'ing or stitching to taper? Also the bottoms of the trousers, at the ankle need tucking into the boots at the ankle more to create the right shape, or again elasic'ing or stitch taper to bring them in.

Did you cold water plunge the flack vest?
Title: Re: Akii'su - Death Watch Super Commando Kenobi - Update 05 June
Post by: Hik'aari on Jun 06, 2016, 05:53 AM
Wow.....you've levelled up. That's some nice work. You are all making me want a second kit now ive finished the small persons.

The only things Im seeing (which im sure you have totally got covered) Is the back of the knees need to come In, are you elastic'ing or stitching to taper? Also the bottoms of the trousers, at the ankle need tucking into the boots at the ankle more to create the right shape, or again elasic'ing or stitch taper to bring them in.

Did you cold water plunge the flack vest?

Thank you :)

In the Clone wars they don't have any attachment methods. They just "float" on the legs. Currently the knees have been heatshaped to the size of my leg and are currently velcro'd onto the suit. Same with the shin plates.

I agree with the leg length. Now I have the plates and weight on it I need someone to pin them for me so I know where to turn them up to. They need to sit over the boot but finish before overlapping the heel plate.
I may need to look into tailoring the leg slightly more at the bottom. It is finding the point between having them tailored to stop them flapping whilst still being able to sit down to rest my back when required.

The vest I cold water plunged it a few times followed by a few vigorous goings over with the iron. It really shrunk down after that.
Title: Re: Akii'su - Death Watch Super Commando Kenobi - Update 05 June
Post by: Hik'aari on Jun 11, 2016, 04:38 PM
Right, home stretch here :)

Backplate has been padded out (soooo much more comfortable now it's not digging into my back with those nuts)
(http://i.imgur.com/nxozOzc.jpg)

Toe caps built up upon the rubber and (after this) reshaped to match the reference photos
(http://i.imgur.com/lXGnt6e.jpg)

The soft parts have been dusted and oversprayed with varying layers of light grey, dark grey and black
(http://i.imgur.com/dcuuxpR.jpg)

Spacing of plates was addressed, harness (which isn't visible) has all been corrected and the jetpack straps shortened. Sitting much better on my back now. So onto my new set of pre-app photos. In true British sense it was sunny all day... until I got kitted up. Then it rained for the next 6 hours so had to be indoor shots.

(http://i.imgur.com/GG1cJQ1.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/JVvYpFG.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/e9xqb7Z.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/loj7v38.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/5a3y2Lt.jpg)
Title: Re: Akii'su - Death Watch Super Commando Kenobi - Update 05 June
Post by: Darth_Vemon on Jun 11, 2016, 05:27 PM
Looks sweet!
Title: Re: Akii'su - Death Watch Super Commando Kenobi - Update 05 June
Post by: Vhett Naast on Jun 11, 2016, 11:58 PM
Looks pretty sharp to my eyes!