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Clan and Stronghold Regions => Canada => USA & Canada => Wasu'ran Clan => Topic started by: bonesteller on Jul 20, 2016, 10:20 PM

Title: HELLO! VODE
Post by: bonesteller on Jul 20, 2016, 10:20 PM
now i could not find the intro page anywhere on  this page so i made one :)  i'm jik bonesteller ( i will not be giveing my name out on  the internet )
 i live in BC.
Title: Re: HELLO! VODE
Post by: Zophar Ptay on Jul 20, 2016, 11:27 PM
Welcome to the family!  Lots of great help here and elsewhere on the boards.   D you have a plan in mind for your kit or are you still debating?
Title: Re: HELLO! VODE
Post by: bonesteller on Jul 21, 2016, 12:30 PM
Welcome to the family!  Lots of great help here and elsewhere on the boards.   D you have a plan in mind for your kit or are you still debating?

a  costume pre visla  with some kind of paint skeem  have yet to get the colors ? any ideas .
Title: Re: HELLO! VODE
Post by: bonesteller on Jul 21, 2016, 08:52 PM
anyone know where to get a pepakura bucket and forarms
Title: Re: HELLO! VODE
Post by: Zophar Ptay on Jul 21, 2016, 10:40 PM
We have some patterns here:  http://mandalorianmercs.org/get-involved/costume-templates/

They aren't pep, but a similar enough "match edge A to edge A" style and they work well.
Title: Re: HELLO! VODE
Post by: bonesteller on Jul 21, 2016, 10:55 PM
We have some patterns here:  http://mandalorianmercs.org/get-involved/costume-templates/

They aren't pep, but a similar enough "match edge A to edge A" style and they work well.

thanks  got 80% of my armor cut out :) so happy

any ideas how to attack them?
Title: Re: HELLO! VODE
Post by: Zophar Ptay on Jul 21, 2016, 11:07 PM
Plenty :D    What are you cutting the plates out of?   That'l make a difference.     But the short version is that some people use velcro, others use snaps, most seem to eventually upgrade to chicago screws in the end.  Post up some pictures of your plates taped up on you so we can check the scale, curves, and spacing before you do anything you'd regret having to cut up and undo.
Title: Re: HELLO! VODE
Post by: bonesteller on Jul 21, 2016, 11:13 PM
Plenty :D    What are you cutting the plates out of?   That'l make a difference.     But the short version is that some people use velcro, others use snaps, most seem to eventually upgrade to chicago screws in the end.  Post up some pictures of your plates taped up on you so we can check the scale, curves, and spacing before you do anything you'd regret having to cut up and undo.

ok  all my plates are yet to be cut out  due to me runing out of a of space a material should be getting somemore tomorrow  but i can do  what i have now.
Title: Re: HELLO! VODE
Post by: bonesteller on Jul 22, 2016, 04:30 PM
 my prototype  gauntlets  are done  here they are
 (http://[URL=http://s1172.photobucket.com/user/cutless3/media/mando/IMGP0720_zpstvjy28vl.jpg.html][IMG]http://i1172.photobucket.com/albums/r563/cutless3/mando/IMGP0720_zpstvjy28vl.jpg[/URL])

and another one

 [img][IMG]http://i1172.photobucket.com/albums/r563/cutless3/mando/IMGP0720_zpstvjy28vl.jp (http://s1172.photobucket.com/user/cutless3/media/mando/IMGP0720_zpstvjy28vl.jpg.html)

not working help ! D:

and  i need help finding a knee file thats just one peace thanks
Title: Re: HELLO! VODE
Post by: Zophar Ptay on Jul 22, 2016, 10:07 PM
to post an image you'll need to upload them to an image hosting site like photobucket, flickr, imagehost, etc then copy their [img] link and paste it here
Title: Re: HELLO! VODE
Post by: bonesteller on Jul 22, 2016, 10:26 PM
Ok thanks .😄
Title: Re: HELLO! VODE
Post by: Gnar-Gnar on Jul 23, 2016, 05:39 PM
Welcome,

already well under way! I look forward to following your build  :D
Title: Re: HELLO! VODE
Post by: bonesteller on Jul 23, 2016, 08:59 PM
Welcome,

already well under way! I look forward to following your build  :D

as am i :D


i am thinking bout adding a robot arm  to my mando is it a  good or bad idea.?
Title: Re: HELLO! VODE
Post by: Serim Merec on Jul 26, 2016, 02:07 PM
Welcome to the BC boards! 8)

Good to see someone so eager to get a kit going! My best advice is to take it slow and read the armour boards as much as you can! Read, read, read, and read some more, use the search function, ask questions, and you'll learn everything you will need to know! One of the first big mistakes we often see is people get excited and cut out all their plates before getting some of us to check if the templates are the right size for them, then they usually have to go back and trim them smaller (which is more of a pain than you'd first imagine) or, even worse, have to go out and buy more material because the plates are too small and unusable.
So that's why we usually ask new guys to post a picture with some of the paper templates taped to your shirt. We really just don't want you to waste your time or money!

Looking forward to following along with your build and troopin' with ya someday! :)
Title: Re: HELLO! VODE
Post by: bonesteller on Jul 26, 2016, 03:10 PM
Welcome to the BC boards! 8)

Good to see someone so eager to get a kit going! My best advice is to take it slow and read the armour boards as much as you can! Read, read, read, and read some more, use the search function, ask questions, and you'll learn everything you will need to know! One of the first big mistakes we often see is people get excited and cut out all their plates before getting some of us to check if the templates are the right size for them, then they usually have to go back and trim them smaller (which is more of a pain than you'd first imagine) or, even worse, have to go out and buy more material because the plates are too small and unusable.
So that's why we usually ask new guys to post a picture with some of the paper templates taped to your shirt. We really just don't want you to waste your time or money!

Looking forward to following along with your build and troopin' with ya someday! :)

 ok oops my bad  the plates seem to fit me i'm 5'7  and they fit like a glove (i think) as am i looking forwerd to troopeing and building with  everyone in BC
Title: Re: HELLO! VODE
Post by: bonesteller on Jul 27, 2016, 02:20 PM
i need help  i tried forming my boots yesterday and it just went bate to the organelle shape
Title: Re: HELLO! VODE
Post by: Zophar Ptay on Jul 27, 2016, 10:37 PM
You made them from garbage cans, right?   Did you heat form them or just try to bend them?
Title: Re: HELLO! VODE
Post by: bonesteller on Jul 28, 2016, 12:14 AM
You made them from garbage cans, right?   Did you heat form them or just try to bend them?
yup and returned to its organelle sate
Title: Re: HELLO! VODE
Post by: Zophar Ptay on Jul 28, 2016, 12:36 AM
I know that not all plastics can be heat formed, but I'm not too familiar with working in plastic.  I'll ping a couple people and see if we can get you some help.  Fairly certain that people have had good luck on the cheap by using 5-gallon buckets like this one (https://www.homedepot.ca/en/home/p.19l--5-gallon-orange-home-depot-logo-bucket.1000143871.html) if the material they used in the garbage can won't stay put.  Hang tight a couple days, I'll see what we can pull together for you.

I don't suppose you have a link to the exact trash can you used so i can look up the material?
Title: Re: HELLO! VODE
Post by: bonesteller on Jul 28, 2016, 11:58 AM
here it is https://www.homehardware.ca/en/rec/index.htm/Indoor-Living/Housewares/Garbage-Bags-Cntnrs/Containers-Cans/Plastic/77L-Pewter-Roughneck-Garbage-Can/_/N-2pqfZ67l/Ne-67n/Ntk-All_EN/R-I4438585?Ntt=garbege+can
Title: Re: HELLO! VODE
Post by: Gnar-Gnar on Jul 28, 2016, 03:41 PM
I'm not the most knowledgable person in terms of plastics and chemistry, But i do know that those garbage cans are definitely a different plastic compared to the 5 gallon buckets... I haven't worked with the type of plastic that's used in what you bought but:

Two things I've learned about heat shaping plastics...

Temperature is your friend, I find most people don't use enough heat when they're first starting with armor shaping, making it hard for the plastic to retain it's new shape

Getting the plastic to keep its shape usually also requires you to hold the plastic in the intended shape while it cools. Often times, if a shape isn't being held, it's because I've let go of the plastic too early, and the shape is lost slightly as the plastic continues to cool.

Hopefully someone on here can give better input on your particular plastic... I only use PVC and ABS (cheap and readily available)
Title: Re: HELLO! VODE
Post by: bonesteller on Jul 28, 2016, 04:55 PM
I'm not the most knowledgable person in terms of plastics and chemistry, But i do know that those garbage cans are definitely a different plastic compared to the 5 gallon buckets... I haven't worked with the type of plastic that's used in what you bought but:

Two things I've learned about heat shaping plastics...

Temperature is your friend, I find most people don't use enough heat when they're first starting with armor shaping, making it hard for the plastic to retain it's new shape

Getting the plastic to keep its shape usually also requires you to hold the plastic in the intended shape while it cools. Often times, if a shape isn't being held, it's because I've let go of the plastic too early, and the shape is lost slightly as the plastic continues to cool.

Hopefully someone on here can give better input on your particular plastic... I only use PVC and ABS (cheap and readily available)

when i did it  it was completely cool and it returned to its origanal shape but i will wait tell zophar gets back to me been doing a iron man  to impress a girl that i like  ;)
Title: Re: HELLO! VODE
Post by: bassplaya on Jul 29, 2016, 02:20 PM
Good to see some new names on here, welcome. My best guess is it a low density polyethylene. Its got really good heat resistance so I don't think it'll go very easily. Maybe check the bottom of the indoor garbage cans
Title: Re: HELLO! VODE
Post by: bonesteller on Jul 29, 2016, 03:01 PM
Good to see some new names on here, welcome. My best guess is it a low density polyethylene. Its got really good heat resistance so I don't think it'll go very easily. Maybe check the bottom of the indoor garbage cans

i did have a link to the can i used
Title: Re: HELLO! VODE
Post by: Gnar-Gnar on Jul 29, 2016, 03:47 PM
i did have a link to the can i used

Unfortunately the link doens say what type of plastic it is, but usually theres a stamp or a raised logo on the bottom that shows the plastic type.
Title: Re: HELLO! VODE
Post by: bonesteller on Jul 29, 2016, 05:17 PM
Unfortunately the link doens say what type of plastic it is, but usually theres a stamp or a raised logo on the bottom that shows the plastic type.
ok i'll check
Title: Re: HELLO! VODE
Post by: bassplaya on Jul 29, 2016, 06:28 PM
Funny enough I couldn't find any online sources that tell what kind of plastic these cans are made of, I am pretty sure most rubbermaid products are the same material
Title: Re: HELLO! VODE
Post by: bonesteller on Jul 29, 2016, 06:39 PM
Funny enough I couldn't find any online sources that tell what kind of plastic these cans are made of, I am pretty sure most rubbermaid products are the same material

there a type 4 plaastic
Title: Re: HELLO! VODE
Post by: Gnar-Gnar on Jul 29, 2016, 07:24 PM
Looks like it's LDPE, which is a thermoplastic... I have no experience with it though... I'm in class right now, but I'll do a little digging tonight when I get home.

Worst case scenario I have some spare 6mm Sintra I can lend you to get you started.
Title: Re: HELLO! VODE
Post by: Serim Merec on Jul 30, 2016, 02:04 AM
My original plan was to use tote bins, so I've done some research on working with these kinda things (though that was a while ago). From what I remember the best thing you could do was use a high grit sandpaper and go at both surfaces to take off a coating of some sort that supposedly can give you trouble when shaping. Then it seems like the best way to heat it up was to dip the plates in boiling water for a couple minutes, pull them out and shape them, then dunk them in ice water to shock them into retaining their new shape. I've heard of people then sticking them in the freezer to further help in the shock phase.

Make sure you have someone to help you if you plan to use boiling water! There is a serious risk of burns! If you can, it may be a good idea to take Gnar-Gnar up on his sintra offer.
Title: Re: HELLO! VODE
Post by: bonesteller on Aug 28, 2016, 12:15 AM
i'm back any updates onhow to use  my cans  for mandos.  ;D
Title: Re: HELLO! VODE
Post by: The Red Mandalorian on Feb 22, 2017, 10:56 PM
Toss the cans, sounds like they are made of polyethylene polyvinyl, key word poly plastics don't hold shape or are moldable

you need ABS (paint buckets / home depot) min 3mm, it's what the majority of all plastic armor is made of.  Long lasting paintable durable.  There are other plastic types but this is the base to build your knowledge from.

2nd option, during nice weather you may want to play with fibre glass. (not an indoor product, fumes are nasty)

Make an exterior form by;
While wearing disposable clothing,
wrap masking tape (not painters) around your cloth, make it snug. 
Single cut your way free of your cloth,
tape up the cut, 
Stuff it with packing peanuts rags whatever, pack it tight, mask over the opening,
Black marker (Sharpie) any ridge, cut or detail lines
apply a minimum 2 coats of fibreglass cloth,
cut and detail to desired shape,
apply putty and sand to desired texture,
paint

ABS may be easier.