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Title: The Red Mando rebuild project. 03 Mar OM photo submissions.
Post by: The Red Mandalorian on Dec 15, 2017, 08:22 PM
A little fact n fiction fluff for me an my armour;

In the beginning, the call went out for Mando's to form a new club.

I heeded the call to Mandalore!   I already had the helmet (an early Sky Gun Bro) and played with the idea of going Mando already.  At that time many moons ago, the 501st had just made the decision to not allow custom mando's, I had no problem with that, it still gave me a place for my custom mando to be recognized in.

Around my first build time, the Republic Commando books came out, and since they had not  released the names of the Mando's that were hired to train the Clones, my character fits into that era.
My character concept helped to train Clones, and ARC Commandos, he went into battle with the clones, and earned his pauldron, and kama in battle.
My character prefers anonymity, the fact that he is called the Red Mandalorian to whomever stops long enough in the galaxy to ask the question is left with the clear understanding he has no ties to BH named Fett!
The few curious enough to speculate or do any research, speculate is he human or a clone? 
It fits well in to another rumor of a clone or group of clones that searched for a fix for the rapid aging in clones.
The ISB file for subject:  TRM-MMCC-0117 has little information, except one section; classified "Emperor's Representative only"
Mandalorian Records show TRM has belonged to 3 Clans a rarity in the Mandalorian culture, his first clan was disbanded, when it's members had spread to far out into the galaxy and fragmented, he joined his 3rd clan, when the clan grew too large and split into a new clan.
That's as far as the story line has gone.

If you look at the picture progress you will notice a couple unique features;  the main weapon has switched out from a A280 to a Westar M5 blaster rifle.

The Shin guards which also cover the knees are rather distinct to one other individual in the universe, this also leads to rumors as to whether TRM has bionic leg replacements.

So the original RM looked like this also had a jet pack; 
Phase 1

(https://i.imgur.com/2gPxu2I.jpg)

Great thing about beginnings, there is a lot of acceptance to rough edges, and allows a person to work on their outfit.
Still had the jet pack.
Phase 2

(https://i.imgur.com/W43L6Xl.jpg)

That vinyl vest is hotter than hell, when trooping SW celebration and cons down south, and my leather kama weighed a ton!  So I switched to a Value Village leather jacket , and fabric kama, acquired some new armour plates during the change over, I upgraded the jetpack but never completed it so, it got dropped. 
Phase 3

(https://i.imgur.com/TfzeZLY.jpg)

Well now after a review of my gear it's time for another update.
Phase 4

The critics;

[X]  -Your visor needs to be darker, as currently your face can be fully seen through the visor. You should not be able to see any part of your face through the T-visor as per the CRLs
[In the process of acquiring a new visor now, tried the local plastic shop but the smoke color of the clear plastic does not obscure the face well enough.  I considered a flexible welders mask, but then I can't see in the dark.  *29 Jan well I used the welders mask not so bad everything is green.]

[X]  -Your chest and ab plates need to be better shaped, so they are not longer floating off your body
[Switched to Velcro, with my pauldron on, it covers the neck armour and one of the shoulders,
I have new plates coming from Bobamaker......]


[X]  -The wrist watch on your gauntlet needs to be removed
[yeah that was an easy fix]

[X]  -The elastic on your gauntlets needs to be removed, and replaced with a hard plate or heavy weight leather. The only place that visible elastic is an approvable attachment method is on the back of the knee or in the bend of the elbow.
[This will be an interesting project, I'm not a skinny Mando and my gauntlets just don't fit comfortably on the forearms, got some ideas though using leather an piano hinges.... update 06 Jan; complete old piano hinges had fibreglass resin from a previous mod, have now been sanded, had some spare red pleather shaped stitched and attached to the gauntlets, pics in an update below.]

[X]  -Your shoulder armor needs to be brought up to cover the required area as it is currently to low on the arm
[update 06 Jan,Vest has been adjusted, new armour has been cut shaped an attached.... I think it looks better than before!]

[X] -Your flight suit needs to have the appearance of being a one piece suit, this means the material must be the same from the top of your flight suit to the bottom, currently it is clearly two different types of material.
[I don't know why this has to be, but I have a flightsuit standing by]

[X] -The sleeves of your flight suit cannot extend past the end of your gauntlets and should not be visible pass the wrist
[yeah that was an easy fix]

[X] -The knife and small hold-out blaster on the gauntlets need to be properly mounted or holster on the gauntlets, they cannot be simply placed on the gauntlet.
[yeah that was an easy fix]

[X]  -The aluminum can tab chainmail sleeves need to be removed all together, if you wish to have a double sleeve you are more than welcome to do so. But it needs to be made of  fabric and needs to made of the same material as your flight suit. Additional aluminum can tabs are not an approvable build material nor is that amount of "chainmail" allowable as it is to "earthy"
[After much discussion I will not re-install this part]
Title: Re: The Red Mando rebuild project.
Post by: The Red Mandalorian on Dec 17, 2017, 07:36 PM
So the first project is the vest;
Pros there is a lot of info on armour out there,
Cons not so much on soft parts,
However there is some good photo referances;

My vest looks like this;

(https://i.imgur.com/3ZlyXym.jpg)

Gonna tighten up the shoulders and add new shoulder sleeves.
The Boba vest is short, cuts off around the belly button, but I want the extra length at the bottom my Kama is stitched into it.  As well my rope wrap belt an ammo belt anchors the vest down an prevents bunching, may have to alter the cod piece, it hangs off the vest too.
In the past once I got the vest on I was instantly 60% dressed  :D



Well after some cursing and swearing, unstitching, re-stitching I got this;

(https://i.imgur.com/7ktH7Hh.jpg)

Kinda nervous about the neck armour, I don't usually wear one, cause my pauldron covers it completely, but the critics say I need one, so here is hoping the spacing works out!
Title: Re: The Red Mando rebuild project.
Post by: WolfofWinter on Dec 18, 2017, 12:24 PM
Nice!!!  Great to see you re-building your kit!!  If you need any help with anything let me know!  I'm up in Nanaimo but I work on base so I'm around!  Come by D-100 some time and we can talk Mando stuff!!
Title: Re: The Red Mando rebuild project.
Post by: The Red Mandalorian on Dec 19, 2017, 04:36 PM
Today is a little armour day;
I have to have this done for Feb and Boba maker said my order will be ready in Feb,
Sooo a little 4 x 4 sheet, some templates courtesy of MMCC and whala!

(https://i.imgur.com/1p5fNhx.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/vQ0NYrd.jpg?1)

Gonna increase my armour load with thigh and double shoulder armour, have some side torso armour ideas for later.

Got it shaped and primed, gonna be adding paint soon!
(https://i.imgur.com/pfgLHDk.jpg?1)

Damn ran out of primer, have to use the darker stuff;
(https://i.imgur.com/suJWNlc.jpg?1)

and first coat;
(https://i.imgur.com/F2KQ9Rb.jpg?2)

well the paint job has been challenging..... challenging in regards to my paint not "crazing"
I define "crazing" as a chemical incompatability that results in the paint cracking or taking on a fracture look, that does not settle and smooth out.

As far as I'm concerned I'm done painting if the "craze" settles down but I'm pretty sure a plate or two will need to be redone;
(https://i.imgur.com/ulrnJgD.jpg)
Title: Re: The Red Mando rebuild project.
Post by: Straka Zulu on Dec 19, 2017, 05:41 PM
This looks interesting...  ;D
Title: Re: The Red Mando rebuild project.
Post by: The Red Mandalorian on Dec 20, 2017, 10:43 PM
Ok so painting the spare armour is time consuming, so while I (I'm)patiently wait for paint to cure, time to work on the gauntlets;
(https://i.imgur.com/WA9Kmre.jpg)
Title: Re: The Red Mando rebuild project.
Post by: Sidewalker on Dec 22, 2017, 06:28 PM
Nice work Randy!
Title: Re: The Red Mando rebuild project.
Post by: Zophar Ptay on Dec 24, 2017, 09:32 AM
I love a good WIP :D  Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: The Red Mando rebuild project.
Post by: Ciryc Ca'tra on Dec 30, 2017, 02:17 AM
Looking good! Keep posting progress pics :D
Title: Re: The Red Mando rebuild project.
Post by: The Red Mandalorian on Jan 01, 2018, 05:29 PM
Hey Happy New Year!

Now that all the holiday stuff is all oughta the way, work can continue.....

Temp pause on the armour and the gauntlets, cause I was starring at my double pistol holsters;

Some fine tunning but finished 30 sec to midnight 2017  :o

more fine tunning when it comes to fitting checks, in the mean time they look like this;

(https://i.imgur.com/AOXxYD5.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/SBoJRbh.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/3Yy9twX.jpg)


Title: Re: The Red Mando rebuild project.
Post by: The Red Mandalorian on Jan 06, 2018, 11:14 PM
6 out of 9 issues have been corrected now, (7 if I don't put the chainmail back on)

Today the big fix was the gauntlets.  I had piano hinges previously installed for a fibreglass update, but it had failed and I switched to elastic, since that was not allowed, I sanded the fibreglass off the piano hinges, put some Velcro on, cut some pleather, stitched some Velcro in, and as per the pictures are the results....

Also note how well the new shoulder armour fits, this corrects another issue as well.  :)

(https://i.imgur.com/Rj4wwwi.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/gLGpjHE.jpg)
Title: Re: The Red Mando rebuild project.
Post by: Straka Zulu on Jan 07, 2018, 06:36 AM
Ah, another vode who went for the leather jacket-to-vest method.  :D
Title: Re: The Red Mando rebuild project.
Post by: Zophar Ptay on Jan 07, 2018, 03:25 PM
glad to see you are wotking on this.  I've set a goal to have my new kit done in time for Capital City, look forward to trooping with you there.    I'm on my phone so I can't see the new pics too well, but yes the chainmaille has to go.
Title: Re: The Red Mando rebuild project.
Post by: Fitz Kal'ad on Jan 07, 2018, 03:29 PM
Definitely leave the Pop-tab Arms off and Either go with a cloth, leather, or armored sleeve so you are in compliance with current Quality standards from the App team.

I know multiple people have had pop-tab stuff in the past but it's been past down that it no longer acceptable, just to earthy and doesn't work with the Mando/swarzy aesthetic.

Curse of the Mando, you are never really done. I've re-built my bicep armor 4 times on 1 kit.

Title: Re: The Red Mando rebuild project.
Post by: Rin V'khari on Jan 07, 2018, 03:43 PM
Solid work, Vod.  I do question the leather jacket/vest conversion.  In its current state, it doesn't look in universe and I suspect the App Team will tell you the same...Not saying it isn't approvable, I just think it needs some tweaking.  Also, your chest and ab plate look a little big and there are some spacing issues, while I do suspect this is just your current stance.  Once you put the collar on it may alleviate the issues.  As for the chainmail, yes, that has to go but that's been covered by the previous comments.  The flight suit being of one piece appearance is definitely in the CRL's:

Quote
Flight suit:
Flight suit must fit snugly to the wearer.
One or two piece flight suit designs are acceptable.
If using two separate pieces, they must give the illusion of a one piece flight suit by using the same color and material for each piece. (We should not be able to tell the difference).

Title: Re: The Red Mando rebuild project.
Post by: wmmbuzzkill on Jan 07, 2018, 03:46 PM
Your kit revisions look like they are coming along for the hard parts! Your chest/Ab armor looks like it could do with some trimming, as well as some spacing adjustment, but the shape overall looks good. I'm going to have to agree with the original comment and the following comments saying you're going to have to lose the Pop can tab chainmail. In other costumes or for an unofficial costume it's fine, but for something representing the MMCC that is extremely out of place. For all of the things that fall into universe, that is one of the armor types that is strikingly earthy.  Additionally I'm quite sure that doing a vest out of a leather jacket with the zipper on the front is not allowed per CRLs. Even though there is a flap to cover the zipper, it still looks very much so like a jacket more than an armor vest, the seam lines and what appears to be visible pockets.

It seems like you're heading on the right road with most of these updates, but things never go well by telling the app team that you refuse to change something you've specifically been told to remove.
Title: Re: The Red Mando rebuild project.
Post by: The Red Mandalorian on Jan 09, 2018, 12:54 AM
Well, I re-spaced the armour, tried to keep it within the 1/2" spacing as per the CR, I think the spacing looks huge but I'll wait to hear what others say.

First pic shows me with the pauldron on (I don't troop without it!)

Second shows with the pauldron off, not particularly happy with the collar armour length going back cut short, but you'll never see it while I'm trooping.

(https://i.imgur.com/TnU2wTV.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/yVgETv4.jpg)

Remember I am round shaped in the torso, armour on occasion will stick out when I turn, and no I am not wearing my coveralls in the pic.

9th Jan update;
Went to bed last night not liking the work on the jacket, so today I ripped all the snaps out of the vest, and pried all the snaps off the chest plates, it's all now velcro, except the abdomen plate.

**note:  if you plan to glue anything on your gear, I highly recommend Goop, or Shoe Goo!  It came off the ABS plates with a little difficulty, but clean.**

(https://i.imgur.com/MeuDX4M.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/z7nDMmJ.jpg)
Title: Re: The Red Mando rebuild project.
Post by: WolfofWinter on Jan 09, 2018, 02:23 AM
Hey Randy,
So I took a look and while it's hard to tell from photos the spacing IS uniform but it does look alot bigger than 1/2" as per CRLs....which is weird.  The bottom right of the ab plate looks a bit more off than the rest but its a minor tweak.

The collar plate would definitely need to be re shaped in, but as its hidden I dont think its a big deal.

I think if you bring the ab plate up a bit it will look better, and with the coveralls on it might smooth the vest out a bit.

Looking forward to seeing this kit in person!!

Cheers!

Title: Re: The Red Mando rebuild project. 09 Jan updated
Post by: GardenGeek on Jan 23, 2018, 11:38 PM
How’s it going with your armour? I was looking it over and it looks like your collar plate is sitting a pretty low and is throwing off the spacing for your other plates.

Let me know if I can help at all, or if you’d like to come up for an AP.
Title: Re: The Red Mando rebuild project. 09 Jan updated
Post by: The Red Mandalorian on Jan 28, 2018, 08:01 PM
Had to go back to work "CDN Navy".

The collar piece is in the right place, using the template off the boards vs my size conflicted a bit, it is a little narrow, and short of length to the back plate, I may have to re-do.  Personally I'd like an exemption for this piece as you will never see it under my pauldron (but I won't ask for it), I'm also still waiting for replacement plates, the neck plate is a fill in till I get my ordered plates.

Just leaves me waiting for my visor.  (sucks ordering parts around Xmas)

When the stars an planets align, I will one day make it to an AP to say hi!
Title: Re: The Red Mando rebuild project. 09 Jan updated
Post by: The Red Mandalorian on Jan 29, 2018, 11:27 PM
Can you see my eyes nose or other facial features??

Yes?  Than you have eyes like superman,

No?  Good this is a lvl 5 Burning visor cut to size, picked up from Lordco!  Damn thing cost $50!  Dang thing better not be see thru.
Not too bad seein thru in dark light, everything is green color.

Have to do some paint touch ups I know!

This completes the last critic, will be posting fitting postings of the full kit later this week.

(https://i.imgur.com/vcSJObP.jpg)
Title: Re: The Red Mando rebuild project. 29 Jan updated
Post by: Zophar Ptay on Jan 29, 2018, 11:30 PM
same visor I use.  IN great irony, The Red Mandalorian can no longer see the color red!   :P
Title: Re: The Red Mando rebuild project. 29 Jan updated
Post by: WolfofWinter on Feb 04, 2018, 02:17 AM
Looks well dark now Vod! Hope to "see" you at C4!!!
Title: Re: The Red Mando rebuild project. 29 Jan updated
Post by: The Red Mandalorian on Feb 12, 2018, 12:37 AM
First test fitting, armour an basics only.  Still a few tweaks to do before I believe it's accepted, working on it.

(https://i.imgur.com/pnjzqkb.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/DRRpa2S.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/XiMCZOc.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/U537g6I.jpg) 



Title: Re: The Red Mando rebuild project. 11 Feb updated First test fitting.
Post by: GardenGeek on Feb 13, 2018, 02:26 AM
You're sure coming along! I think some of your plates, collar and shoulder plates specifically, do look low.  We will be having armour parties for the next 2 weekends, from 11 to 6 in Nanaimo, if you'd like to come up.
Title: Re: The Red Mando rebuild project. 11 Feb updated First test fitting.
Post by: Bryn Cin'Prudii on Feb 13, 2018, 11:02 AM
Think that backplate could use a slight trim at the bottom. Looking good overall though.
Title: Re: The Red Mando rebuild project. 11 Feb updated First test fitting.
Post by: The Red Mandalorian on Feb 19, 2018, 12:18 AM
2nd fitting complete, and after some major work the weekend already have to do pics for a 3rd fitting.

(https://i.imgur.com/FMWPYP9.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/lPbqQrS.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/uVEectp.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/BgzPwal.jpg)

Since the above pics;
-  I have adjusted the Kama,
-  lowered and better centered the thigh plates,
-  adjusted the gauntlet leather,
-  sewed some detail into the coveralls,
-  adjusted the holsters (not pictured)

I think the 3rd set of pics may be ready for approval when I take them, fingers crossed.
Title: Re: The Red Mando rebuild project. 11 Feb updated First test fitting.
Post by: Ciryc Ca'tra on Feb 19, 2018, 12:24 AM
Fantastic  ;D

Good luck with your pics, fingers crossed!
Title: Re: The Red Mando rebuild project. 18 Feb Second test fitting.
Post by: Mobidan on Feb 21, 2018, 10:58 AM
I know its been a long haul with a rebuild. There are a few things i've noticed .

"The top edge of the cod plate must be fully covered by an accepted waist item." That can be readjusted though

I think the back plate is too large, goes down too far.

The right gauntlet, at the wrist. Do you use a leather wrap on the backside of your arm? Im not sure what that flare is on your thumb?

-Mob

Title: Re: The Red Mando rebuild project. 28 Feb Third test fitting.
Post by: The Red Mandalorian on Mar 01, 2018, 02:04 AM
3rd fitting.... it's going to invade ECCC.... hope you like it

(https://i.imgur.com/tBxymBC.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/dAOcIjc.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/s5ubFOo.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/W5mrCNy.jpg)

-  yeah yeah I know about the hoses, my partner didn't follow my instructions well....
-  I don't care at this point how low the back plate goes, people take pictures of me from the front!

(https://i.imgur.com/5YIcO89.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/jltfZnE.jpg)

an then I added a half cape after the pics.
Title: Re: The Red Mando rebuild project. 28 Feb Third test fitting.
Post by: Ciryc Ca'tra on Mar 06, 2018, 09:01 PM
Your kit looked amazing at ECCC!

Can't wait to hear back about your pre app pics :D
Title: Re: The Red Mando rebuild project. 28 Feb Third test fitting.
Post by: The Red Mandalorian on Mar 07, 2018, 12:58 AM
03 Mar @ ECCC pictures for submission for OM status

These should pass I had two Ruus'alor's, and two Ver'alors poke an prod me (kinda liked it  :P )

(https://i.imgur.com/nZAVrLW.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/2jRTZvw.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/6YBaW5O.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/5SQCa3G.jpg)

 (https://i.imgur.com/PFaEwDx.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/zaBJVyA.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/SUmBkTz.jpg)
Title: Re: The Red Mando rebuild project. 03 Mar OM photo submissions.
Post by: wmmbuzzkill on Mar 07, 2018, 03:21 PM
Looking good! The pre app/app will probably push back just because of your shoulder bells being uneven with the pauldron and your cod plate being off to the side slightly. for Approval youre generally supposed to take pictures with the pauldron off as well.