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Mandalorian Armor => Armor Construction => Topic started by: Odran Krayt on Dec 20, 2017, 09:37 PM

Title: Odran Krayt WIP (updated)
Post by: Odran Krayt on Dec 20, 2017, 09:37 PM
So, I am working through the PreApp process right now, and I realized I never posted a WIP. I am still far enough from OM that I have things that I am still improving, so I'll post them here.

My bucket
(https://i.imgur.com/5VaJGNO.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/h2IE6yM.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/PVVSEI7.jpg)
(sculpey earcap pre-baking)

Helmet w/ new earcap (pre weathering)
(https://i.imgur.com/MHPIMBg.jpg)
(weathered)
(https://i.imgur.com/boAYEBM.jpg)
Front to see the better balanced front view
(https://i.imgur.com/xdpqbcr.jpg)

Burnt side with lightsaber scar
(https://i.imgur.com/ZFYCa7H.jpg)

Back armor
(https://i.imgur.com/Y4cJT6B.jpg)

Chest armor
(https://i.imgur.com/l1qI7f8.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/PaHxzJi.jpg)

Trophies (the marble and wire pendants are also for sale on my sales thread)
(https://i.imgur.com/ZZJmgL4.jpg)

Gauntlets (right one is my sword arm, has bicep, elbow, and hand plate, with extra trauma plates. left has a blaster, no handplate, and the blaster hose goes under my arm pouch and shoulder)
(https://i.imgur.com/8tw01Fz.jpg) right
(https://i.imgur.com/R4knv1M.jpg) left
(https://i.imgur.com/zzrPxA6.jpg) left top
(https://i.imgur.com/nXbKZuG.jpg) elbow
dont have bicep or shoulder pics yet

My 'Mando Diaper' or cod and girth belt (I also have a kama, its not in the picture)
(https://i.imgur.com/KERlnLX.jpg?1)

Here I am in kit at the Last Jedi premier. (I'm in the back right next to the TIE reserve pilot)
(https://i.imgur.com/u3eluwO.jpg)

My beskad (spare material from my deck at my house, it is some sort of composite plastic/wood, it weighs about 10 pounds.)
It has a strap that velcroes to the spine of the blade that can velcro over my shoulder to carry.
(https://i.imgur.com/NHOLchJ.jpg)
The ring and braids at the pommel
(https://i.imgur.com/STKD0JI.jpg)
The beskad on my shoulder
(https://i.imgur.com/iYbYgTM.jpg)

A boot, just a snowboot with a spat made with Pheonix023's tutorial http://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/index.php?topic=120390.msg1628355#msg1628355
(https://i.imgur.com/EyHc6q8.jpg)
And shin armor
(https://i.imgur.com/lCd5daw.jpg)
The straps I used to hold the shins on (needs a way to hold down the ends)
(https://i.imgur.com/w9tc9jB.jpg)
Other shin with pouches
(https://i.imgur.com/1smp0N3.jpg)

One side of my trophy diamond wrap that goes over the bottom of my thigh plates (laid over top of my boot)
(https://i.imgur.com/6Fw5QRA.jpg)
 
A little blurry, but a lightsaber trophy, it connects with the silver side of my helmet and the burn scar. I was battling a Sith, and as he hit my helmet with his saber, I caught it and, in the struggle, the crystal became unaligned and blasted the whole battery out the side and burned away the paint on the right side of my armor. (you can see the red crystal inside. it is a chunk of glass I picked up off the road that I colored red with a Sharpie.)
(https://i.imgur.com/y4x3YmY.jpg)

My Westar-35 pistol (I have its twin for sale on my sales thread in my signature.)
(https://i.imgur.com/zKYl9aI.jpg)

My off hand short sword (It now has a ring in the hilt like my beskad, and a leather wrapped hilt)
(https://i.imgur.com/jQ9nBqw.jpg)

That's all for today, I'll get more pics up when I can.
Title: Re: Odran Krayt WIP (updated)
Post by: Kris Jasra on Dec 22, 2017, 07:08 AM
That's a lot of progress. Just a couple of things I can spot at the moment.

The helmet still needs a lot of sanding, barring the section you want damaged the rest needs to be smoothed out.

Your ab plate needs a large trim and shifting up into place. Trim on the green and shift up to the red line. The gap all around should be even.
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4733/38508592774_01e49d0c3a_h.jpg)

Looking forward to seeing this all put together.
Title: Re: Odran Krayt WIP (updated)
Post by: Odran Krayt on Dec 22, 2017, 11:36 AM
would it work to add smaller plates in the larger gaps? my whole chest armor is metal, and the height of the plate is because it is very short otherwise
Title: Re: Odran Krayt WIP (updated)
Post by: MadCelt on Dec 22, 2017, 12:38 PM
would it work to add smaller plates in the larger gaps? my whole chest armor is metal, and the height of the plate is because it is very short otherwise

Just for clarity, your ab plate isn't actually supposed to cover your abdomen. It rides high, almost to the sternum.
Your belly area would be covered by a girth belt or sash with weapon/gear belts on top of that.

Check out Jango Fett's armor. Note the placement and spacing of the plates.
Title: Re: Odran Krayt WIP (updated)
Post by: Havelock on Dec 22, 2017, 12:42 PM
Just for a quick visual reference:

(http://i.imgur.com/k22pKFP.jpg) (https://imgur.com/k22pKFP)
Title: Re: Odran Krayt WIP (updated)
Post by: Odran Krayt on Dec 22, 2017, 12:46 PM
The way i understand it, the bottom should sit over the belly button, and that is where mine sits, so bringing it up would make it look too high up
Title: Re: Odran Krayt WIP (updated)
Post by: Sep Ho'ban on Dec 22, 2017, 01:11 PM
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The way i understand it, the bottom should sit over the belly button, and that is where mine sits, so bringing it up would make it look too high up

It should end an inch or two above your navel i you want to ever be able to bend over ever.   But either way you're going to have to trim to get the spacing to be even.  That upper tab of your ab plate is currently asymmetrical. 

Kris's advice is solid (as always).  Girthbelts cover your girth. 

Title: Re: Odran Krayt WIP (updated)
Post by: grantaire on Dec 22, 2017, 03:52 PM
The vest and armor tends to sit a lot higher than what most recruits assume, but even Boba Fett's vest ended along or above his navel. The girthbelt and other belt items will make up the difference.
Title: Re: Odran Krayt WIP (updated)
Post by: Odran Krayt on Dec 22, 2017, 05:35 PM
Ok, I've been running off of this pic which looks like it hits his navel.
(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/81/f1/4d/81f14d5846404ae7188efc3fec0394f0--boba-fett-costume-jango-fett.jpg)
 It looks better when I wear my girth belt.
Also, any suggestions on how best to smooth my helmet? it is sanded down too deep in spots, so simply sanding isn't an option.
Title: Re: Odran Krayt WIP (updated)
Post by: Kris Jasra on Dec 22, 2017, 08:30 PM
The armour on that picture looks too big all round, both front and back for that frame to me.

Around the navel is the easiest reference point, however it can be anywhere from the navel to a few inches above since nobodies navel is in the same spot (my armour stops a full 2 inches above mine)

would it work to add smaller plates in the larger gaps? my whole chest armor is metal, and the height of the plate is because it is very short otherwise

I also have to draw attention to this line from the CRLs: "If a Boba or Jango Fett ab plate is being used, the height of the plate must be approximately 1/2 the measurement of the width."

I assume you've been using bondo (car body filler) for the outer layers? If not - get some, it works wonders. If yes, mix up a tiny bit at a time, then using someshing flat (most tubs come with a small plastic spreader) smooth it into all the dips. Let it dry, then sand it down. Fill any remaining dips. Sand again. Repeat until you gain a smooth surface.
Title: Re: Odran Krayt WIP (updated)
Post by: Odran Krayt on Dec 22, 2017, 08:56 PM
so what you are saying is the upper body armor is too wide?

I plan on getting some bondo tonight, i just wanted to make sure there wasnt a better method
Title: Re: Odran Krayt WIP (updated)
Post by: Kris Jasra on Dec 23, 2017, 08:49 AM
so what you are saying is the upper body armor is too wide?

No. When I said too big all around I was talking about the last picture posted - the drawing, not any pictures of you, I marked the exact place that was too big on those. The width is fine on your armour.

To break down the CRL point. The ab plate should not be higher in size than half it's width. If you look at yours it is far bigger height-wise than half its width - therefore it needs trimming where marked. Some leeway will be given - it wont be measured down to the last inch, but close enough to not stand out to the eye is needed.
Title: Re: Odran Krayt WIP (updated)
Post by: Odran Krayt on Dec 23, 2017, 09:51 AM
so the ab plate is what is too big?
Title: Re: Odran Krayt WIP (updated)
Post by: Kris Jasra on Dec 23, 2017, 10:20 AM
Yes. See my diagram for best fit.
Title: Re: Odran Krayt WIP (updated)
Post by: Odran Krayt on Dec 27, 2017, 06:39 PM
How is this?
Chest armor with adjusted ab plate, changed secondary color to copper/bronze
(https://i.imgur.com/b5cwUfU.jpg)
Helmet smoothed
(https://i.imgur.com/832ZPvt.jpg)
Character's wife's name in new TLJ alphabet
(https://i.imgur.com/Iyfjkfh.jpg)
Title: Re: Odran Krayt WIP (updated)
Post by: Sep Ho'ban on Dec 27, 2017, 09:10 PM
The mods you made on top of the ab plate make it impossible for you to get the spacing right on the rest of your plates because of how the corners stick out past the edge.  There should be an even 1 inch gap between all your torso plates and eachother, gap around diamond can be 1/2 inch.

Also, the plate in the middle top of the ab looks haphazard, and likely to get dinged on the quality clause.  Battle damage is okay, but it's off center, and skewed so that it was not ever in the right place before whatever hit it. 

The exposed strapping or velcro between your pectoral plates and diamond and pectoral plates and ab plate is also not approvable. 


Title: Re: Odran Krayt WIP (updated)
Post by: Odran Krayt on Dec 27, 2017, 10:17 PM
so make the top of the ab flush with the rest?
 
my ruus'alor told me that the nylon webbing was fine.

and the other part of the ab plate, is that the black center of the copper part? if so, i can easily remove it.
Title: Re: Odran Krayt WIP (updated)
Post by: Sep Ho'ban on Dec 27, 2017, 11:06 PM
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so make the top of the ab flush with the rest?

Not flush, even 1 inch gap at all edges between ab plate and Pectoral plates.   But you can't do that without trimming the copper on the ab a bit.

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and the other part of the ab plate, is that the black center of the copper part? if so, i can easily remove it.
Yes. I would, but that's an aesthetic call, not necessarily a CRL call other than the potential for the quality clause ding. 

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my ruus'alor told me that the nylon webbing was fine.
I will defer to your Ruu there.  I know exposed webbing CAN be okay, like the straps going from your torso to your back are fine, but I didn't know it was okay exposed like you have it.  I assumed it was velcro because most modern gets mounted that way, or with magnets or snaps.  Typically see the strapping with legacy kits.  That's how my kit's assembled, but the strapping isn't visible in between plates.   

Follow the advice of your Ruu' for sure!
Title: Re: Odran Krayt WIP (updated)
Post by: Odran Krayt on Dec 27, 2017, 11:15 PM
for the gap, the top of the copper is what i expected you meant for trimming, and is an easy fix.

for the webbing, i'll double check w/ my ruus'alor, i dont remember if he has seen the fully assembled chest with the webbing

also, is the helmet smooth enough?
Title: Re: Odran Krayt WIP (updated)
Post by: Sep Ho'ban on Dec 27, 2017, 11:22 PM
That's what I meant, yes.  Good idea on getting further feedback!
Title: Re: Odran Krayt WIP (updated)
Post by: Odran Krayt on Dec 27, 2017, 11:35 PM
Kris Jasra said that the helmet needed sanding, is it better now? The helmet is meant to be beskar, hand forged by my character, so it won't have as much 3d damage on the blasted side, and is also not a perfect piece. I defined the undamaged cheek a bit more and made the other parts more sharp and smooth, though not perfectly.
Title: Re: Odran Krayt WIP (updated)
Post by: Sep Ho'ban on Dec 27, 2017, 11:50 PM
Any chance of getting an updated front view, and the other side?

(https://i.imgur.com/HzSXCjX.png)

The red areas need some attention just to make that body line consistent.

The blue circled area's currently scream "Bike Helmet" and even if I didn't know it was a scratch build I'd realize that.  It's not that they can't be there... but if they're going to be there, make them a feature.  The lower blue circle (waves) it's clear you painted them in such a way as to have them ignored, to hide them.  You could make them paint details/features instead. 

The screened in holes could use something to make them a little more "functional vent."  Honestly it might help if they were either your main kit color, the copper color, or even just black, but I like the idea of the copper the best I think (this is a judgement call though)

Again, these are suggestions. If you disagree, that's cool :) And good on you for forging your bucket yourself!
Title: Re: Odran Krayt WIP (updated)
Post by: Odran Krayt on Dec 28, 2017, 12:24 AM
i'll get the pics up tomorrow.

for the screen thing, do you mean painting the screen, and what suggestions do you have for making them look more functional.

i'm using a simple phone, so i can't see your pics. is this make or break stuff, or just asthetic
Title: Re: Odran Krayt WIP (updated)
Post by: Sep Ho'ban on Dec 28, 2017, 11:10 AM
I mean painting the screen, yes.   As for making them look more like a feature -- maybe building up ridges around them with something like plumber's epoxy putty or Apoxie Sculpt, or half covering each one with a pieceof transparent or tinted plastic.  You could also just tape the inside of them, fill them with bondo, and then once the bondo cures, remove the tape and paint.  I get the desire for airflow though.

I would say the screen and the waves are aesthetic, but an App team or Ruu may weigh in for you on that part too.   

The red circles are places where the body line/bondo/sanding  along the ridge between the bottom of your bucket and your dome is wavy instead of a straight line like it probably should be.    That might get kicked back, but it might also pass. 

I have no formal training, just  LOTS AND LOTS of forum reading, and the scratch built helmet I made out of home depot buckets.
Title: Re: Odran Krayt WIP (updated)
Post by: Odran Krayt on Dec 28, 2017, 09:27 PM
My Ruus'alor said the strapping is okay

Here's the pics
(https://i.imgur.com/EB8Tiq8.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/eGiNEDF.jpg)

And I painted the vents gold, and the waves have red with a gold edge
(https://i.imgur.com/U6lQ7mv.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/7JeefO5.jpg)

moi smooth Bondo
(https://i.imgur.com/8rgC0uW.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/sZ6ftqv.jpg)
Title: Re: Odran Krayt WIP (updated)
Post by: Odran Krayt on Dec 30, 2017, 06:54 PM
Covered those vents!
(https://i.imgur.com/4dPPaLr.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/SLrTtnP.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/yHB2dIC.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/w4xOY0j.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/PtJzflw.jpg)
Title: Re: Odran Krayt WIP (updated)
Post by: Sep Ho'ban on Dec 30, 2017, 07:02 PM
Vents look intentional now! Good work!  And I like what you did with the waves.

The following comments are NOT about approvability. Someone like Bow will need to weigh on that aspect.
I'm trying to decide how I feel about the silver side.  Like if I were a mando and I walked away from the fight that did that to the helmet, and I trust my life to that helmet-- would my top priority become replacing it? 

Either way, if you keep it, the rest of the kit has got to show a significant level of damage to match. 

But I struggle with this in general, which is why my kit is fairly clean-- if I trust my life to my gear, I take care of my gear. If it's more than cosmetic damage-- repair or replace asap.
Title: Re: Odran Krayt WIP (updated)
Post by: Odran Krayt on Dec 30, 2017, 08:01 PM
the helmet is beskar with a cortosis coating, so the 3d damage would only be as deep as what cortosis chipped. my armor is more damaged on that side,but since the blast occurred by the head, the damage is localized there. the helmet is also a matched set with his wife, so he prefers to keep it.
Title: Re: Odran Krayt WIP (updated)
Post by: Sep Ho'ban on Dec 30, 2017, 08:13 PM
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the helmet is beskar with a cortosis coating, so the 3d damage would only be as deep as what cortosis chipped. my armor is more damaged on that side,but since the blast occurred by the head, the damage is localized there. the helmet is also a matched set with his wife, so he prefers to keep it.

Fair enough :)  Have not seen the wife's kit.  Like I said, not about approvability afaik.
Title: Re: Odran Krayt WIP (updated)
Post by: Odran Krayt on Dec 30, 2017, 08:52 PM
the wife is only in the story. i am not actually married. i can post a drawing of her at a later point.
Title: Re: Odran Krayt WIP (updated)
Post by: Sep Ho'ban on Dec 30, 2017, 08:53 PM
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the wife is only in the story. i am not actually married.

That'd certainly explain the lack of pictures of her kit!
Title: Re: Odran Krayt WIP (updated)
Post by: Odran Krayt on Dec 30, 2017, 09:15 PM
yup! haha!
Title: Re: Odran Krayt WIP (updated)
Post by: Bowfanny on Dec 31, 2017, 12:20 PM
Not going to lie Vod but your helmet is rough.  Remember we donít approve people based on their kits backstory just the quality of their build. I see youíre a fairly young adult and youíve been open to suggestions by others which will help you if youíre going for approval.
Title: Re: Odran Krayt WIP (updated)
Post by: Odran Krayt on Dec 31, 2017, 01:31 PM
what suggestions do you have to make the helmet better?
Title: Re: Odran Krayt WIP (updated)
Post by: Bowfanny on Dec 31, 2017, 02:31 PM
what suggestions do you have to make the helmet better?
Can you post photos of front, left, right, back and top? Iíll be able to give you better advice with those.
Title: Re: Odran Krayt WIP (updated)
Post by: Odran Krayt on Dec 31, 2017, 03:21 PM
will do when i can. probably tonight or tomorrow
Title: Re: Odran Krayt WIP (updated)
Post by: Bowfanny on Dec 31, 2017, 03:26 PM
will do when i can. probably tonight or tomorrow
Sounds good Vod
Title: Re: Odran Krayt WIP (updated)
Post by: Odran Krayt on Dec 31, 2017, 08:30 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/8lRTCfX.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/bdvKi3D.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/qIAHC2O.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/SvlOOXo.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/Idl9UoD.jpg)
Title: Re: Odran Krayt WIP (updated)
Post by: Bowfanny on Jan 01, 2018, 10:55 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/8lRTCfX.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/bdvKi3D.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/qIAHC2O.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/SvlOOXo.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/Idl9UoD.jpg)
Knowing that Iíve seen so many helmets that folks have been calling me the helmet  king for nearly two years because I build helmets constantly, that being said. I think youíve got a decent base to start with but the aesthetic needs cleaned up, a helmet that takes damage even beskar indents, yours doesnít. Honestly I would sand it back down smooth it out, and then see what you have there to pull forward. If thatís too much for you then my other suggestion is build a second one and use this one just for the fun of it or put it somewhere you can look at it daily to remind yourself what you are capable of.
Title: Re: Odran Krayt WIP (updated)
Post by: Odran Krayt on Jan 01, 2018, 11:31 AM
indents?
and what do you mean by pull it out?
Title: Re: Odran Krayt WIP (updated)
Post by: Bowfanny on Jan 01, 2018, 12:57 PM
indents?
and what do you mean by pull it out?
To pull forward is to bring with you the base of what you have or in normal people speak itís taking what you have and working with it in its most basic state.
Indentations are Bobaís dent, blaster dents, grenade damage that mars the surface but doesnít add material. Without sanding down a surface that looks unfinished you have mountains and valleys that donít tell the same story as you are.
Title: Re: Odran Krayt WIP (updated)
Post by: Kris Jasra on Jan 01, 2018, 01:46 PM
Apologies for the slightly blurry picture but this is the only one I have showing a similar sort of damage. It was sanded to a smooth finish, then the damage was added back on. If the damage had simply been done while it was in progress those sharp edges would still be blurry and not quite straight. That would have a detrimental effect on the finished look.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4574/38577773676_f9b23978b2_b.jpg)

Currently I don't see any damage on yours at a glance, just unfinished sanding as both side have rough patches and are the same colour.
I've blocked out where I think you were aiming for the lightsabre scar to be in white - leave that section alone for now and go back in and sand down all the sections I've outlined in red - I work through about 5 grits of sandpaper, with the last one being about 2400 so the finish on the helmet is ultra smooth. Make sure all the lines on edges or raised or indented sections such as the visor edge are straight with no loose bits of fibreglass or material.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4640/39403274692_d0d73f78de_h.jpg)

When painting damage it is always wise to use a complimentary colour to draw it out if your top coat is too close to the damaged section. So if you are going for a grey/black which would blend with silver metal once the silver is weathered, there's 2 good options that will help to draw out the damage. 1 Is to switch the base colour of your beskar to copper or bronze instead of silver. The 2nd option is to use a layer between the silver damage and the grey/black topcoat and have chipping round the edges of the damage that shows off the other colour.

Title: Re: Odran Krayt WIP (updated)
Post by: Odran Krayt on Jan 01, 2018, 02:50 PM
So..., make the whole helmet smooth, then dremel out the damage, then make the damage stand out more with a more colorful base metal or primer?
Title: Re: Odran Krayt WIP (updated)
Post by: Kris Jasra on Jan 01, 2018, 04:49 PM
Yep. bang on. Smooth out all the small indentations, lumps and wiggly lines from the rest, that way the indentations and wiggly lines of the melted damage will be really visible. Add the paint colours and boom. You look at a single glance like you fought a Jedi and survived.
Title: Re: Odran Krayt WIP (updated)
Post by: Odran Krayt on Jan 01, 2018, 05:29 PM
Will do.
Now, more parts, finished my boot/toe/heel armor
(https://i.imgur.com/kqB58OP.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/Bwrc1MY.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/5hKOVRz.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/VodIiGg.jpg) 

I know I need to hold the shin strap ends down, I am working on that. Otherwise, how does it look?

Finally, Mando Midnight! Happy New Year
(https://i.imgur.com/OVycxT5.jpg)
Title: Re: Odran Krayt WIP (updated)
Post by: Odran Krayt on Jan 02, 2018, 07:32 PM
I have now sanded and smoothed the helmet and now am repainting it. I am leaving some of the small rough spots to make into shrapnel pits from the explosion.

(https://i.imgur.com/6W2VDn3.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/mz5cWQg.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/Z1tzGkq.jpg)

Bottom edge looks a lot thicker too.
(https://i.imgur.com/7zCevqK.jpg)
Title: Re: Odran Krayt WIP (updated)
Post by: Odran Krayt on Jan 03, 2018, 05:19 PM
Here's the helmet progress. Added a Viszla clan symbol on the helmet, as my character is a relative of the viszlas
(https://i.imgur.com/v9wVLuU.jpg)

And finished sanding, then pitted the blasted side, then added silver over the black.
(https://i.imgur.com/f0bpbV0.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/ripXbaw.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/wyC1uXh.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/1Gp9nzz.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/P5NZz5G.jpg)

I learned that a dry paint-stiffened brush dipped in silver paint makes a much better chipped look than simply streaking, then use a drybrushing to show rubbed spots.
Title: Re: Odran Krayt WIP (updated)
Post by: Odran Krayt on Jan 04, 2018, 08:46 PM
Electroglove
(https://i.imgur.com/60Fh3iS.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/WznIJsg.jpg)

Short sword with connection to glove for electrification

(https://i.imgur.com/Mnx7Cku.jpg)

comm gaunt

(https://i.imgur.com/35f9Oq4.jpg)
Title: Re: Odran Krayt WIP (updated)
Post by: Sep Ho'ban on Jan 04, 2018, 09:36 PM
Helmet looks better with each revision! Will let Bow and Kris weigh in on whether it is ready or needs a little more tweaking.

Good job on the gauntlet/glove so far.  You probably already have plans for this, but probably need to do something to disguize the bezel of the screen on the comm gaunt, as right now it looks too earthy.   A curvy piece that even went over a bit of the screen to shift it's shape away from perfectly rectangular could be really cool too.  Also could use a bit more sanding around the plastic that borders the keys. 

Good work!
Title: Re: Odran Krayt WIP (updated)
Post by: Kris Jasra on Jan 07, 2018, 06:54 AM
Definitely getting there. From the latest full pics it's all looking a lot smoother. Got a couple of still wavy lines on the back that could do with straightening. And I'd suggest seeing if the front can be taken down to be a little flatter so the visor sits flat in the front without any wrinkles.
Title: Re: Odran Krayt WIP (updated)
Post by: Odran Krayt on Jan 07, 2018, 12:23 PM
are the wavy lines in the ridge at the base of the dome? i am working on getting the visor to sit flush on the inside.
Title: Re: Odran Krayt WIP (updated)
Post by: Kris Jasra on Jan 07, 2018, 01:04 PM
Around the back venting/keyslot area. Find something straight and use that to find edges. I have an old wooden ruler I use, press it against the edge and then I just sharpie bits that need sanding down and other bits that need filling.

This is my current project. I think I'm onto sanding round six? or so. I went over it with my fingertips and circled any bits I need to sand/fill. And the lines are where I've had to correct some wavy bits. Especially the back which I somehow got slanted...

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4593/38664317075_52597c4a94_k.jpg)
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4646/38851627894_9d2dd8e16e_k.jpg)

I don't fully paint my helmets till very late on. Usually just a primer coat, then sand it. Primer gets caught in indents and left behind so you know where to fill.
Title: Re: Odran Krayt WIP (updated)
Post by: Odran Krayt on Jan 07, 2018, 10:42 PM
How does the new girth belt look?

(https://i.imgur.com/X0tsScq.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/Zsi6vn7.jpg)
Title: Re: Odran Krayt WIP (updated)
Post by: Kris Jasra on Jan 08, 2018, 07:15 AM
Nice. Adds a good flash of colour.
Title: Re: Odran Krayt WIP (updated)
Post by: Odran Krayt on Jan 08, 2018, 06:08 PM
Fixed the back and used spot putty on the unblasted cheek

(https://i.imgur.com/JZMkv6Q.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/EyEz1Hp.jpg)

Better?
Title: Re: Odran Krayt WIP (updated)
Post by: Havelock on Jan 08, 2018, 06:26 PM
This is definitely coming along nicely.  Looking forward to seeing all that sanded and repainted.  And don't forget to weather your new girth belt - which is a really nice addition, by the way - to match the weathering on your armor.
Title: Re: Odran Krayt WIP (updated)
Post by: Odran Krayt on Jan 08, 2018, 06:37 PM
is there anywhere in particular you see to sand? as to the girth belt, i am making sure that i have all i want attatched to it before weathering
Title: Re: Odran Krayt WIP (updated)
Post by: Havelock on Jan 08, 2018, 06:44 PM
Just as a general practice, any time you use spot putty, apoxie sculpt, bondo, whatever, on your bucket or armor, you want to sand it down to make sure it's smooth.  And your belts or whatever else that sit atop your girth belt aren't going to ride in the same place every time the whole time you're in kit.  For myself, I just weathered my whole girth belt, front and back.  Seemed easier that way than trying to weather just parts of it.
Title: Re: Odran Krayt WIP (updated)
Post by: Odran Krayt on Jan 08, 2018, 07:50 PM
With the sanding, It is smooth, I'll get pics up later, and the girth belt, what I am talking about is that I am planning on attaching it to the inside of my ab plate with velcro, so I am waiting to finish that, not topical on the spots the belts are.
Title: Re: Odran Krayt WIP (updated)
Post by: Kris Jasra on Jan 08, 2018, 08:13 PM
To sneakily keep your girth in place, snaps or velcro to either the bottom of the vest or to the flightsuit is the usual method. Your ab will be attached to the vest, so there's no way to attach to the ab without sitting the girth under the vest since the ab must be fully on the vest.
Bucket is definitely looking smoother.
Title: Re: Odran Krayt WIP (updated)
Post by: Odran Krayt on Jan 08, 2018, 08:28 PM
Vest or ab would work. Ab was just my idea at the time
Title: Re: Odran Krayt WIP (updated)
Post by: Kris Jasra on Jan 09, 2018, 06:18 AM
Apologies, I should have been clearer. The ab must be on the vest - ie the vest cannot end short of the plates, that includes having the sash/girth too high and covering the bottom of the vest and under or overlapping the ab.
Title: Re: Odran Krayt WIP (updated)
Post by: Odran Krayt on Jan 09, 2018, 09:47 AM
Ohhh. so attach the girth to the flightsuit, leave the flak vest to move, sorta making it more obvious that it is a vest, not part of the flightsuit?
Title: Re: Odran Krayt WIP (updated)
Post by: Odran Krayt on Jan 09, 2018, 09:45 PM
Helmet repainted in sanded areas

(https://i.imgur.com/1U82BEB.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/2c3fK8U.jpg)

And rifle. (modded nerf rifle)

(https://i.imgur.com/uBHl3kV.jpg)

Cartridges in progress

(https://i.imgur.com/y4ZZWs3.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/ug0vLNR.jpg)
Title: Re: Odran Krayt WIP (updated)
Post by: Bowfanny on Jan 10, 2018, 01:04 AM
The wraps arenít gonna cut it Vod, simply wrapping stuff around an Unmodified nerf to mask its silhouette gets dingíd more than a bell during Christmas.
Title: Re: Odran Krayt WIP (updated)
Post by: Odran Krayt on Jan 10, 2018, 01:43 AM
the wraps are not to disguise it,i can remove them if needed, the gun was actually smashed, and i kitbashed some electronic parts and parts from another toy rifle.
Title: Re: Odran Krayt WIP (updated)
Post by: Bowfanny on Jan 10, 2018, 02:48 AM
the wraps are not to disguise it,i can remove them if needed, the gun was actually smashed, and i kitbashed some electronic parts and parts from another toy rifle.
Covering up a lot of your work then Vod. Show us the craftmanship and be proud of doing something you most likely havenít done a lot of yet!
Title: Re: Odran Krayt WIP (updated)
Post by: Odran Krayt on Jan 10, 2018, 08:52 AM
copy that! I will remove the wrappings as soon as I can.
Title: Re: Odran Krayt WIP (updated)
Post by: Kol Varek on Jan 10, 2018, 11:40 AM
I must say, seeing your progression from the beginning to now, it's come a long way. The helmet has certainly gotten better, as have certain aspects as well. As Bow said, the wraps tend to sometimes drop quality more than the blaster itself, depending on execution. If wraps are something you would truly want to do with your blaster as an added aesthetic, I suggest you take to google and get some references for ideas! Many wraps are done tight around areas that are normally gripped, carried, or need to be camouflaged, and these areas can usually be wrapped like bandages. I look forward to seeing where you go forward from this. Glad to see you're responding positively to feedback vod, we try to make critiques as constructive as possible!
Title: Re: Odran Krayt WIP (updated)
Post by: Odran Krayt on Jan 10, 2018, 12:15 PM
yeah, I'll probably rewrap the grip the same way as the ammo, to make them work together
Title: Re: Odran Krayt WIP (updated)
Post by: Odran Krayt on Jan 10, 2018, 03:03 PM
after removing the wraps, I realized that the rifle was less clean in its shape than I thought, so it will not be part of my kit.
Title: Re: Odran Krayt WIP (updated)
Post by: Odran Krayt on Jan 11, 2018, 07:40 PM
Armor on my mannequin
(https://i.imgur.com/Vu5krMI.jpg)

new neckseal
(https://i.imgur.com/QrJ1CfG.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/8KD3wgr.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/XHwvs7K.jpg)

and a whole bunch of broken lightsaber crystals
(https://i.imgur.com/bINuOz1.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/ktexag6.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/O4DluXA.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/mGLDOYm.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/9I7caPL.jpg)
Title: Re: Odran Krayt WIP (updated)
Post by: Odran Krayt on Jan 12, 2018, 08:28 PM
redid my pouches to match a less basic design and to look better in shape (still need to trim some threads)
(https://i.imgur.com/ytrtpbm.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/ND97kLL.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/J3OZHEW.jpg)
now to trim the threads and paint that cardboard liner so it doesn't stick out.
Title: Re: Odran Krayt WIP (updated)
Post by: Kol Varek on Jan 13, 2018, 10:40 PM
Not sure if I'm not seeing correctly, but do you have a vest with your soft parts? If not, one will be required for approval.
Title: Re: Odran Krayt WIP (updated)
Post by: Odran Krayt on Jan 13, 2018, 11:42 PM
yes I do. I am working on making it look more noticable from the flight suit.
Title: Re: Odran Krayt WIP (updated)
Post by: Kol Varek on Jan 14, 2018, 12:41 AM
Ok, unless it's the manequin, you may need to move your shoulders up.
Title: Re: Odran Krayt WIP (updated)
Post by: Odran Krayt on Jan 14, 2018, 01:20 AM
manneqin has no shoulders past the sleeve seam, they sit better on my body. hopefully I will get actual preapp pics done soon.
Title: Re: Odran Krayt WIP (updated)
Post by: Odran Krayt on Jan 16, 2018, 08:14 PM
Preapps posted: http://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/index.php?topic=146970.new#new
Title: Re: Odran Krayt WIP (updated)
Post by: Odran Krayt on Feb 09, 2018, 11:14 AM
New preapps here: https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/index.php?topic=146970.new#new
Title: Re: Odran Krayt WIP (updated)
Post by: Odran Krayt on Feb 12, 2018, 10:54 PM
Even more preapps here: https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/index.php?topic=146970.new#new