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Mandalorian Armor => Armor Construction => Topic started by: T_Jay00 on Feb 28, 2018, 02:09 PM

Title: First Armor WIP (Any help would be great!)
Post by: T_Jay00 on Feb 28, 2018, 02:09 PM
So here is what I want my costume to look like when it's done, except with Jango Fetts armor, not this.
(https://i.imgur.com/TFdCKZL.png)
Some of the red will be a layer beneath the green. I think that's trauma plating?
Here are pictures of me wearing the templates:
(https://i.imgur.com/rEmW9Ub.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/lZ6DuoM.jpg)
Do they fit right? Should I start cutting plastic?
I have 7 sheets of 12"x24" sintra, black leather fingerless gloves, and a Rubies Boba Fett helmet that need mods.
I have heard that scrubs are good flight suit material, but I've also heard that you need a vest. What for, and where should I get it?
And, I don't know how to make an ammo belt, or where to buy one. So, any help here?
Title: Re: First Armor WIP (Any help would be great!)
Post by: Sep Ho'ban on Feb 28, 2018, 02:24 PM
Hello again!
Currently, everything looks a bit large. 

Check out this guy:
(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/disney/images/2/23/Jango_Fett.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/354?cb=20121115171702)

His chest plates end before the edge of his chest, and you can see the edge of the flakvest there.  The cod plate ends where he ends.

 I know it's just paper, but the spacing around the diamond will need to be even all the way around, and the spacing between the plates needs to be even.  That means that your chest plates and ab plates need to move up a bit to sit closer to eachother and closer to your collar.  Gap should be no more than a thumbs width.

I speak from experience shaping that backplate when I say that to get it to really fit close to you, it needs to be smaller than you think it does. 

Shoulders also need to come up so that the top of them is roughly on the shoulder seam on your shirt.

Currently you have no knee coverage, which is required for all kits.  You can either extend the shin plating so that they become "Shnees" or you can add knee plates like Jango's, or other styles.

I would trim everything a bit and post more pics.  I know it seems trivial sometimes because it's just paper, but the more work you do now, before plastic, the less work you'll have to do shaping and trimming later, and you'll have less material waist.   

You're already doing quite a bit right by posting here for feedback before moving forward, so keep it up, and keep asking questions!

Title: Re: First Armor WIP (Any help would be great!)
Post by: T_Jay00 on Mar 01, 2018, 03:15 PM
Ok, how 'bout this:
(https://i.imgur.com/oJJdNeO.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/7ZM6rXq.jpg)
I printed the next size down. This one had better fit because I'm running out of tape.
Title: Re: First Armor WIP (Any help would be great!)
Post by: Sep Ho'ban on Mar 01, 2018, 03:21 PM
Torso plates are much closer, your spacing is much better.  The pectoral and ab plates are probably still a half inch to an inch too wide on either side.  (This matters when you try to move your arms once they're rigid. 

The shin plates are hard to judge without your boots, and with the baggy jeans.  Your flghtsuit will be a closer fit.  Thigh plates look big.   Yay knees :)

I would say the backplate needs the most trimming.  I should still be able to see green until the kidney plate coverage at the bottom starts, but it also needs to come up a few inches, so that the collar of the backplate is on the collar of your t-shirt.

Much better than the first fit up!    Your decision where to go from here, but again, better paper,=easier and faster plastic :)  Keep it up!
Title: Re: First Armor WIP (Any help would be great!)
Post by: T_Jay00 on Mar 01, 2018, 03:39 PM
So like this?
(https://i.imgur.com/bEvWfEY.jpg)
Title: Re: First Armor WIP (Any help would be great!)
Post by: Sep Ho'ban on Mar 01, 2018, 03:46 PM
Very yes!  May or may not have to trim once you start shaping, but that looks great!
Title: Re: First Armor WIP (Any help would be great!)
Post by: Yogi on Mar 01, 2018, 04:17 PM
What size templates did you print? You have a smallish frame and the chest pieces still seem a bit large.
Title: Re: First Armor WIP (Any help would be great!)
Post by: T_Jay00 on Mar 01, 2018, 07:01 PM
Umm, I printed the medium, but I just looked at it and my printer settings were set to fit to page, so all the pieces were goofy. I've fixed it now, so tomorrow I'll have pics of that one, maybe it'll fit right.
Title: Re: First Armor WIP (Any help would be great!)
Post by: T_Jay00 on Mar 02, 2018, 12:34 PM
So, does it fit now?
(https://i.imgur.com/VcJi6pQ.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/JsruRgH.jpg)
Title: Re: First Armor WIP (Any help would be great!)
Post by: Sep Ho'ban on Mar 02, 2018, 12:55 PM
Looks good.  Still not sure about shins without the boots for your kit, (or knees without flightsuit) but can always cut those out later.  Back and front collars do not have to be connected.  There can be a gap between them, or they can even be strapped together. 

Keep in mind your flightsuit needs to be well fitted to you. Many approaches to this -- some use coveralls, some flightsuits, some Dickies, some Scrubs.
Title: Re: First Armor WIP (Any help would be great!)
Post by: T_Jay00 on Mar 02, 2018, 01:05 PM
Yeah, I've decided on some Red Kaps coveralls. I'll put it on inside out and take in the seams to make it tighter. For my vest I'm going to get a black T-shirt and cut off the sleeves. I haven't been able to find boots yet, but I'm still looking.

So I can start cutting plastic now? I have it all fitting right?
Title: Re: First Armor WIP (Any help would be great!)
Post by: Sep Ho'ban on Mar 02, 2018, 01:09 PM
T-shirt is not approvable for vest, but you can do that to make your pattern. Needs to be a heavier material like duck cloth or canvas for the flak vest.

You may still have some trimming down the line, we almost all do, but you are probably good to start cutting plastic on chest shoulders and back.
Title: Re: First Armor WIP (Any help would be great!)
Post by: T_Jay00 on Mar 02, 2018, 01:23 PM
What did you use for your vest?
Title: Re: First Armor WIP (Any help would be great!)
Post by: Sep Ho'ban on Mar 02, 2018, 01:27 PM
My vest and kama are maid from a set of canvass blackout curtains.  A ton of people use duck cloth-- can be purchased pretty cheaply at joanne's, check their site for coupons.  Some people use pleather/leather/vinyl-- would say those are a little trickier to work with than the canvass or the duck cloth. 
Title: Re: First Armor WIP (Any help would be great!)
Post by: Havelock on Mar 04, 2018, 11:04 PM
Sep's got you on the right path.  Just checking in to say I'll be watching your build, too.  Keep up the good work and the good questions.
Title: Re: First Armor WIP (Any help would be great!)
Post by: T_Jay00 on Mar 06, 2018, 10:07 AM
What would you guys suggest for filling in dents in my helmet?
Title: Re: First Armor WIP (Any help would be great!)
Post by: Sep Ho'ban on Mar 06, 2018, 10:25 AM
Sand the area, fill in with bondo, several thin coats is less sanding than 1 thick one.  If you still have some pin holes after final sanding, use spot/glazing putty as a top coat.
Title: Re: First Armor WIP (Any help would be great!)
Post by: T_Jay00 on Mar 07, 2018, 06:14 PM
So what kind of Bondo should I get? There's putty and resin, right? I'm going to walmart tonight to get some.
Title: Re: First Armor WIP (Any help would be great!)
Post by: Sep Ho'ban on Mar 07, 2018, 11:27 PM
glazing putty for last coat/pinholes, bondo body filler for initial coats
Title: Re: First Armor WIP (Any help would be great!)
Post by: T_Jay00 on Mar 08, 2018, 01:11 PM
I've been cutting out my plastic today:
(https://i.imgur.com/r3JirXC.jpg)
Why didn't anybody tell me how nasty this stuff was?

I'm not quite sure about sintra anymore. I just read that it'll bend one way then snap the other way. And my cutting isn't great either.
Title: Re: First Armor WIP (Any help would be great!)
Post by: Ruus bal'Neta on Mar 08, 2018, 02:36 PM
What thickness is your sintra? 3mm? 6mm? If its 3mm you should be able to cut it with a sharp Xacto knife by making a couple passes with it. If you're using a Dremel I suggest taking your time and doing a couple passes so you don't heat up and melt the material, making it harder to cut. 6mm will definitely need a Dremel or scroll saw to cut.

Don't worry about your edges being too rough. Try to minimize it if you can when cutting but you're going to most likely need to trim a little when you shape the plates. And you can sand the edges smooth too after you cut them out.

On your templates, I'd double check the size of the thigh plates before cutting them out. On all the templates I've used they are always too big.
Title: Re: First Armor WIP (Any help would be great!)
Post by: T_Jay00 on Mar 08, 2018, 03:21 PM
Well that stinks. I already cut them out. I guess I can trim them down with the sander, right? It's 3mm.
By the way, I'm totally using EVA foam for the next kit. Maybe even for the trauma plating on this one, seeing as I'm out of plastic.
Title: Re: First Armor WIP (Any help would be great!)
Post by: MercOfSteel on Mar 09, 2018, 12:05 PM
6mm will definitely need a Dremel or scroll saw to cut.

I cut out my first kit with a utility knife, and it was 6mm. You need to do 3-4 passes, but if you're slow and careful, it won't be a problem. Take your time, don't try to be done tomorrow and you'll be fine. That said, I've used a band saw on several other kits I've been helping with lately, and it's much easier. Head to an armor party with your local clan and they'll be able to help you out a lot.
Title: Re: First Armor WIP (Any help would be great!)
Post by: T_Jay00 on Mar 09, 2018, 01:28 PM
Well, Nexu clan is mostly based around Chicago, and I'm south of Springfield. So armor parties are kind of out of range.

I've finished cutting out the armor. I've also been molding it with a heat gun and have done everything but the back plate. I'm not quite sure how I'm going to do my back plate, because it's in two pieces.

I'm also not confident about my molding skills, but I think it's all right. I can't give you pictures of it on me, 'cause due to true genius planning, my sintra is black. So is my flightsuit. But here it is on the floor:
(https://i.imgur.com/Lz4W0Oq.jpg)

I'm pretty sure it all fits right, but its hard to tell.
Title: Re: First Armor WIP (Any help would be great!)
Post by: Sep Ho'ban on Mar 09, 2018, 10:54 PM
Can always blast the plates with a coat of primor.  It's no big deal if it crack when you do some reshaping -- if you want some contrast for photos.

Will say, for someone's first time doing rough shaping, they look awesome!  Backplates are kind of a team sport.    That jango style backplate, doubly so.  One trick we did with shaping my backplates is putting them in the oven on a sheet-pan at 200 degrees F -- for 6 mill plates it's 5-8 minutes, not sure of timing for 3 mill, but you do it until it's floppy.  You lie down on the floor with a sweathshirt on, someone else wearing gloves takes it out of the oven and presses it onto your back.  2 someone's is even better here.  Once the major complicated curves are done, you can tweak the fangs and such with a heat gun. 

That plate basically has 5 major bends.  The shoulder tabs each get a bend, the kidney tabs get a bend, and you try to curve the whole thing around your spine, but it's a real challenge solo. 

Keep it up Vod!
Title: Re: First Armor WIP (Any help would be great!)
Post by: T_Jay00 on Mar 14, 2018, 11:36 AM
Sorry I haven't said anything for awhile, been a little busy...

My very crafty and helpful Aunt was here for a birthday last weekend and made my vest, so here are my total soft parts so far:
(https://i.imgur.com/sWMfBch.jpg?1)
(https://i.imgur.com/qDOExHv.jpg)

I rather like it.
Title: Re: First Armor WIP (Any help would be great!)
Post by: MercOfSteel on Mar 14, 2018, 12:20 PM
When you get ready to shape your backplate, you may want to give this video a watch.
https://www.facebook.com/128426950501358/videos/1654167791260592/ (https://www.facebook.com/128426950501358/videos/1654167791260592/)
Title: Re: First Armor WIP (Any help would be great!)
Post by: Fenn Beviin on Mar 14, 2018, 01:11 PM
When you get ready to shape your backplate, you may want to give this video a watch.
https://www.facebook.com/128426950501358/videos/1654167791260592/ (https://www.facebook.com/128426950501358/videos/1654167791260592/)

Good video to share. Like Sep mentioned, back plates are definitely way easier if you have 2 extra people to help out. I personally used the oven method as it gives the entire backplate a nice even heat. The trick is to not have the people helping you, if they are new to the process, press to hard when forming it to you so that they don't leave finger/hand dents.
Title: Re: First Armor WIP (Any help would be great!)
Post by: Sep Ho'ban on Mar 14, 2018, 01:22 PM
If you DO Get some finger/hand dents, applying heatgun LIGHTLY will usually re-expand the sintra and eliminate or minimize them.
Title: Re: First Armor WIP (Any help would be great!)
Post by: Garretjax on Mar 14, 2018, 01:29 PM
Sorry I haven't said anything for awhile, been a little busy...

My very crafty and helpful Aunt was here for a birthday last weekend and made my vest, so here are my total soft parts so far:
(https://i.imgur.com/sWMfBch.jpg?1)
(https://i.imgur.com/qDOExHv.jpg)

I rather like it.

Crafty family members rock for this kind of thing and she did a great job on your vest it looks really nice.

Now that you have both your vest and flightsuit try touching up your plate shaping with both of these on.
The vest definitely gives you abit of a different shape, so what fit well before might feel or look abit off now.

Iíd also suggest putting some kind of primer on the plates before sharing anymore pictures of the plates on you with the vest. Just to make it easier for us to see the edges and spacing. Hard for us to give advice on what we canít see.

Your doing a great job so far on this, the soft parts are in my opinion the hardest part of the kit so having such a good foundation is great.
Title: Re: First Armor WIP (Any help would be great!)
Post by: Kryamla Redalur on Mar 14, 2018, 01:58 PM
Looks like you have some good progress so far!
Title: Re: First Armor WIP (Any help would be great!)
Post by: T_Jay00 on Mar 14, 2018, 03:13 PM
Thanks. Yeah, I'll remold my plates and paint as soon as it warms up a little. In the meantime, I'm trying to get all I can done with the soft parts.
Title: Re: First Armor WIP (Any help would be great!)
Post by: T_Jay00 on Mar 15, 2018, 05:24 PM
So I've painted most of the plates I can with a aluminum spray that was also primer, but I can't get it to stay on long enough to get a picture. Duct tape doesn't seem to work. What do you guys suggest?
Title: Re: First Armor WIP (Any help would be great!)
Post by: Sep Ho'ban on Mar 15, 2018, 05:31 PM
duct tape/ gorilla tape usually does it for me... more surface area = more hold, but don't put it on your painted surfaces...
Title: Re: First Armor WIP (Any help would be great!)
Post by: T_Jay00 on Mar 15, 2018, 05:35 PM
I'm not putting it on painted surfaces, but duct tape doesn't seem to stick to either sintra or duck cloth.
Title: Re: First Armor WIP (Any help would be great!)
Post by: Havelock on Mar 15, 2018, 05:49 PM
If you absolutely can't get it to stick, then you could try putting your flak vest and armor on a pillow that's roughly your size on the ground and setting everything in place.  Honestly, that's not a great option, but if that's all you can make work, it'll at least let us get an idea of where you're at.
Title: Re: First Armor WIP (Any help would be great!)
Post by: T_Jay00 on Mar 15, 2018, 06:22 PM
So like this?
(https://i.imgur.com/1Qa3YVO.jpg?1)
Title: Re: First Armor WIP (Any help would be great!)
Post by: Havelock on Mar 15, 2018, 06:46 PM
That definitely helps a bit.  You'll want to move the plates apart a bit.  The spacing around the diamond should be no larger - and ideally less - than the spacing between the rest of the plates.  You should shoot for a thumb-width between your collar and chest plates, and your chest and ab plates.  The collar should ride up around the very base of your throat - it should almost choke you.  The bottom of the ab plate will ideally be around your navel.
Title: Re: First Armor WIP (Any help would be great!)
Post by: Zarya Arthos on Mar 16, 2018, 01:54 AM
Try safety pinning a small piece of Velcro to the vest and another for the plate - Thatís what I did. Because you really need to see how the plates look on you. But so far, itís looking nice.
Title: Re: First Armor WIP (Any help would be great!)
Post by: T_Jay00 on Mar 19, 2018, 11:05 AM
I went and bought some more Velcro from Walmart this weekend. Turns out it was just barely enough to stick it on. Funny thing, the Velcro itself is stickier than the glue on the back. So here it is. Sorry for the blurry pictures...
(https://i.imgur.com/sKKybQw.jpg?1)
(https://i.imgur.com/CiRHZPt.jpg?1)

I don't have a girth belt yet, and the cod piece looks weird because I haven't Bondo'd and painted it yet. And the shins look off because I don't have my combat boots yet. I might be getting some tomorrow night, we'll see. Anything else I haven't seen yet?

Come on folks, I need some suggestions. And someone please tell me what to do next!
Title: Re: First Armor WIP (Any help would be great!)
Post by: Dra'Xis Tor on Mar 29, 2018, 03:59 PM
Hey Buddy,


Looks like you have a good start to your kit. By the way there are a good majority of us Nexu members located in the Central Illinois area. Our Alorad is in Pekin and I am located in Mackinaw. Next round of armor parties hopefully will be going soon.


Next steps are to work on your armor placement. Like Havelock mentioned in previous comments you do not want more than a thumbs width in between your plates. Alignment is your next big one. This is real tough to do with velcro. Your alignment right now is inconsistent among your collar and chest plates and your belly and chest plates.


Once you get that done do some research of how much "battle damage" you want to show on your plates and watch some you tube videos on how to do that weathering. Then practice that weathering on scrap pieces until you get it the way you want it. Post up your results here. Havelock is a great resource and if he is watching your progress he will have great advice for you.


Again keep an eye out on the Nexu boards when it gets warmer we will get some more Armor parties going to help those out that are working on their kits.

Title: Re: First Armor WIP (Any help would be great!)
Post by: T_Jay00 on Jul 26, 2018, 12:06 PM
Alright, the armor project lives. It's been two months and I've got my helmet done. Now, for reals, it's time for the armor. For reals, folks.  ;D

To recap, I have all the basic armor cut and mostly shaped to my satisfaction. I am now working on trauma plating and thought I'd see what you guys think of my collar plate idea.
(https://i.imgur.com/DQKPuct.jpg?1)
What do you think, does it work? Should I cut the sintra for this one?

Something I just realized was that I never showed you this:
(https://i.imgur.com/WFvbyZe.png)
This is what I'm going for now. Less Christmasy, if you know what I mean. What I'm doing is still a little bit different, but I guess that always happens?
Title: Re: First Armor WIP (Any help would be great!)
Post by: Havelock on Jul 26, 2018, 12:57 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/sKKybQw.jpg?1)
(https://i.imgur.com/CiRHZPt.jpg?1)

Not bad, not bad at all, vod.   :)  You'll want to get your collar plate up a little higher to rest right around the collar of your flight suit.

(http://i.imgur.com/BQBgAtG.jpg) (https://imgur.com/BQBgAtG)

You'll need to raise the other plates accordingly.  The bottom of your ab plate should be resting right at your navel, or up to an inch above it.  Your cod plate looks like it's really low - the bottom of your cod should be curving under where your legs meet.  Not so tight that it causes discomfort, but not hanging inches below that area, either.

Your flight suit arms and legs are looking a little on the baggy side - you might need to take those in a little bit.

As for the planned trauma plates?  Cool.  Looks good, vod. 

If you can make it to an armor party or two, you'll have a lot of fun, meet some great people, and get some helping hands for your kit, too.

Keep up the great work!
Title: Re: First Armor WIP (Any help would be great!)
Post by: T_Jay00 on Jul 26, 2018, 01:34 PM
I would love to be able to get to an armor party, but I live out in the middle of nowhere in the middle of Illinois. The nearest clan member is two hours away. So I'm kind of on my own...

As for the cod, I'm not entirely sure how to do that piece. It has two parts, but I don't know how to attach them or anything...

My mom says that taking in the flightsuit would make it to hard to move/tear it while I was wearing it. So if you have any ideas, please tell me.
Title: Re: First Armor WIP (Any help would be great!)
Post by: Havelock on Jul 26, 2018, 04:06 PM
When I was getting started I didn't have any nearby Mercs, either.  So I feel your pain.  You can do it by yourself, though.  It just takes longer.   :P  Or, if you can block out the time to make it to an armor party, even with a long drive, I think you'll find it's worth the effort.  Either way, we'll be here to help you out.

The main bagginess in the flight suit I'm concerned about at the moment is around your shins.  If you used nylon or leather strapping around your calves to help hold your shin plates in place, it would also do a lot to keep the baggy legs where they need to be.  And since your forearms will have gauntlets on them, just make sure the sleeves are snugged down tight, and your upper arms should be fine.

With your cod plate, you want it to ride a little more loosely than, say, a jock strap and cup, but it needs to be snug to your body.  From the picture you posted, it's hard to tell for sure, but it looks like you've already got it curved fairly well.  Now it just needs to go up a bit so it doesn't look like it's dangling down off your crotch.  Additionally, you don't have to add the additional piece if you don't want.  If you do want to use it, just cut it, heat it and use the cod plate you've already formed and shape the additional piece to that one.  Then glue it on, and you're good.
Title: Re: First Armor WIP (Any help would be great!)
Post by: T_Jay00 on Jul 26, 2018, 07:37 PM
Alright, I already cut it. But because I didn't know what to do with it, I started bondoing it together some time ago. So I guess I'll have to see if I can get it all off.

I think I'm going to get April Storms Pre Vizla gauntlets. They look exactly like,what I was wanting, but I have to figure out the budget stuff. As for the legs... What if the strapping for the shin plates wrapped the flightsuit closer?
Title: Re: First Armor WIP (Any help would be great!)
Post by: Havelock on Jul 26, 2018, 09:37 PM
Can you post a picture of your cod plate from different angles?

And yeah, with the leg strapping, that's what I was trying to describe.  If you use straps, it'll help keep the legs tucked in and not baggy.
Title: Re: First Armor WIP (Any help would be great!)
Post by: T_Jay00 on Aug 13, 2018, 12:38 PM
Ok, no progress has really been made, but I need help. Does anyone know where I can print a 3D file? I can't seem to find any nearby that will print and ship.
Title: Re: First Armor WIP (Any help would be great!)
Post by: Sep Ho'ban on Aug 13, 2018, 12:44 PM
Shapeways. Or look for a nakersoace or hackerspace in your area. What do you need printed? Depending on what it is I might be able to help you out. Send me a pm
Title: Re: First Armor WIP (Any help would be great!)
Post by: T_Jay00 on Aug 24, 2018, 09:23 AM
Okay, progress!
(https://i.imgur.com/FKpAyQZ.jpg)
And I went ahead and played Frisbee with them in the driveway:
(https://i.imgur.com/NX5VIcV.jpg)
Which for some reason you can't really see in this picture.

I like 'em. How 'bout you?
Title: Re: First Armor WIP (Any help would be great!)
Post by: Raynos Ge'tal on Aug 24, 2018, 10:02 AM
Nice work. For the next layer use some sort of masking agent to keep covered the parts of the silver damage you want to show through to the top layer. When the next layer is dry wipe off the toothpaste and survey how it looks and adjust as needed. Repeat this process for each layer of paint as you feel like is necessary.  As you keep going remember the weathering on your plates need to match up and remain consistent with your soft goods.

You've made some awesome progress. Keep it going!
Title: Re: First Armor WIP (Any help would be great!)
Post by: T_Jay00 on Aug 25, 2018, 09:36 AM
Well, I've run out of black paint. But I have this to show for it:
(https://i.imgur.com/qAfByaR.jpg)

I think I need to make all the scratches thinner. But otherwise, I'm happy with it.
Title: Re: First Armor WIP (Any help would be great!)
Post by: T_Jay00 on Sep 07, 2018, 09:07 AM
The armor is finished! I have yet to attach most of it, and what I have needs to be spaced out more, but here it is:
(https://i.imgur.com/fTkfyJf.jpg)
Now, for soft parts!
Title: Re: First Armor WIP (Any help would be great!)
Post by: Den Barren on Sep 12, 2018, 03:39 PM
really liking this kit vod!
Title: Re: First Armor WIP (Any help would be great!)
Post by: T_Jay00 on Sep 24, 2018, 05:24 PM
Thanks Den, really appreciate it!
After life hammers me, I finally get some work done. It helped that my gauntlets came.
(https://i.imgur.com/9JYnGrU.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/HJShdGI.jpg)

The chest armor needs straightening, that center diamond is the bane of my existence. I'm afraid the collar is off center a little bit, and the chestplates are iffy.

Once I get all of that figured out, I'm onto legs!
Title: Re: First Armor WIP (Any help would be great!)
Post by: T_Jay00 on Oct 17, 2018, 02:45 PM
And I'm back! This time I have the legs strapped on and the backplate taped on.
(https://i.imgur.com/BCAJtZb.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/5fjXLwp.jpg)
So the chest still needs recentering, I need a girth belt (Coming soon!) and the legs need velcro to stop them from sliding down. The shin plates feel weird to wear, I think they don't really work with my boots or my flightsuit. The hem on my legs is rather large, so when I put on the shins, the bottom of the legs flare out. What should I do about that?
Oh, and the butt of the flightsuit seems poofy. Should I try to take it in, or just leave it? And if I should, how?
Title: Re: First Armor WIP (Any help would be great!)
Post by: Havelock on Oct 17, 2018, 11:50 PM
Yeah, the seat of your flight suit will need to be tailored.  MC Hammermando isn't a thing.   ;D  As to the mechanics of how...unfortunately, not having any experience with sewing beyond buttons, I can't offer you specifics.  You might want to post that picture, and and question, in the Soft Parts (http://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/index.php?board=12.0) sub-forum to get some specific advice on how to address that.  Your cod plate will need to come up a bit, as well.  It should ride snug to your body, like an exterior protective cup.
Title: Re: First Armor WIP (Any help would be great!)
Post by: T_Jay00 on Oct 18, 2018, 03:45 PM
It's hanging as close as it can. There's tape on the other side holding it on as well as that tape that you can see. I'm rather long, so it looks weird.
Title: Re: First Armor WIP (Any help would be great!)
Post by: Sep Ho'ban on Oct 18, 2018, 04:09 PM
Then it needs more shaping or a boba thong
Title: Re: First Armor WIP (Any help would be great!)
Post by: MercOfSteel on Oct 26, 2018, 06:01 PM
It may just be the lack of the girth and ammo belts. Get those on once you get them, and take another pic to be sure.
Title: Re: First Armor WIP (Any help would be great!)
Post by: T_Jay00 on Nov 05, 2018, 09:03 AM
Just in time for Halloween, I get the thing wearable!
(https://i.imgur.com/yTuvXJi.jpg)

Now, those chest plates are mounted right, just for some reason they looked off in that picture. I have a temporary ammo belt on, and the girth belt needs to sit even to the plates. Other then that, how does it look? Anything I missed?
Title: Re: First Armor WIP (Any help would be great!)
Post by: MercOfSteel on Nov 05, 2018, 10:12 AM
Your soft parts need some weathering. They look too new and shiny next to your kit, which could use a bit more grime as well. The girth belt also needs some grime and weathering, and should hide the top of your cod plate. Next time you get a picture, try for a softer, more even light. It's washing you out quite a bit and making it hard to really get a good look at the details. Good work so far. Keep it up, vod.
Title: Re: First Armor WIP (Any help would be great!)
Post by: Raynos Ge'tal on Nov 06, 2018, 02:02 PM
Soft part weathering for sure.
Go roll around in some dirt and trudge through some mud.

Take a look at worn items and how they would weather, take a second to think about your plate weathering and be sure to apply similar weathering to the soft parts. (Something I need to remember for myself also)

In response to the backside issues. Kamas literally save kits.  A kama will hide the saggy bottom mando and gives you another item to take up the mid space below the belts and it hides the belt you can use to attach the cod  with.


When you get a chance, post some more photos from each side, front. And back and we can give you proper feedback.
Title: Re: First Armor WIP (Any help would be great!)
Post by: T_Jay00 on Dec 19, 2018, 01:18 PM
Ok, the kama will have to wait, but I've been working on weathering my soft parts for awhile, and I'm fairly happy with the results.
Neck seal:
(https://i.imgur.com/51zecn0.jpg)
Girth belt:
(https://i.imgur.com/msIm27O.jpg)
Flak vest:
(https://i.imgur.com/1wPFriv.jpg)
Flightsuit legs:
(https://i.imgur.com/6cGkt4T.jpg)
And one of the arms:
(https://i.imgur.com/q3dXcM2.jpg)
Does that work? The flak vest was the easiest to weather, the flightsuit doesn't really hold any of the color. 
Title: Re: First Armor WIP (Any help would be great!)
Post by: T_Jay00 on Jan 08, 2019, 08:56 AM
So... I've discovered that matching the weathering on the soft parts to the weathering on the armor plates is rather...difficult. So should I repaint the plates with less weathering? Or am I good?
(https://i.imgur.com/dmFgLrO.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/CdlLMPK.jpg)
Title: Re: First Armor WIP (Any help would be great!)
Post by: Sep Ho'ban on Jan 08, 2019, 10:58 AM
Great work on your kit so far T_Jay!


The weathering on your softgoods looks within the range of your plates. 

(I know you're not asking for Pre-app style feedback, but, figured better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it)

You can drop the bottom plate on your backplate, as it shouldn't overlap or tuck into your waist items, and should be about the same length as your torso armor.

Your spacing looks pretty good, but something is resulting in your torso armor looking slanted a bit.

There's a bit of blousing of your pants between knees and shins that needs to be addressed, and a similar issue at the top of your thigh plates.    It also looks like the armos of your flightsuit might be a bit long for you as there's a  pleating happening above your gauntlets up to your elbows.

you're getting really close vod! time for those final adjustments :)
Title: Re: First Armor WIP (Any help would be great!)
Post by: Novoc Mereel on Jan 14, 2019, 12:58 PM
Really excited to see this all come together. You're almost there!!
Title: Re: First Armor WIP (Any help would be great!)
Post by: Den Barren on Jan 14, 2019, 02:53 PM
Loving where this kit is going vod! Great work so far!

It looks like you might have a little skin showing through your neck seal. Itís hard to tell in this picture. But, if it is youíll want to cover that up before submitting. :) 

Youíre getting close vod! Keep up the good work!

(https://i.imgur.com/aDC9gTU.jpg)
Title: Re: First Armor WIP (Any help would be great!)
Post by: Fenn Beviin on Feb 10, 2019, 12:52 PM
Great work on your kit so far T_Jay!


The weathering on your softgoods looks within the range of your plates. 

(I know you're not asking for Pre-app style feedback, but, figured better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it)

You can drop the bottom plate on your backplate, as it shouldn't overlap or tuck into your waist items, and should be about the same length as your torso armor.

Your spacing looks pretty good, but something is resulting in your torso armor looking slanted a bit.

There's a bit of blousing of your pants between knees and shins that needs to be addressed, and a similar issue at the top of your thigh plates.    It also looks like the armos of your flightsuit might be a bit long for you as there's a  pleating happening above your gauntlets up to your elbows.

you're getting really close vod! time for those final adjustments :)

I would agree. Also I think the issue with the torso armor is that the left chest plate is about 3mm to high compared to the right chest piece. If you attached your plates via velcro that will be a super easy fix. Also the soft part weathering is look great. It's tough with all black but you have done a pretty good job of it so far.
Title: Re: First Armor WIP (Any help would be great!)
Post by: T_Jay00 on Feb 11, 2019, 07:59 AM
Thanks guys! I haven't quit, don't worry. I'm taking a break to get done with high school. I'll have more updates this summer!
Title: Re: First Armor WIP (Any help would be great!)
Post by: T_Jay00 on Mar 08, 2019, 10:37 PM
Ok, I know it's not summer, but I've had sudden inspiration.  :rolleyes:

Where could I get some stencils for Mandalorian or Aurebesh? I want to write something on the back of my helmet, and I...don't have very good handwriting.  :-[
Particularly in different languages.
Title: Re: First Armor WIP (Any help would be great!)
Post by: T_Jay00 on Apr 18, 2019, 09:29 AM
So in planning for Celebration next year, I'm trying to get as many ducks in a row as I can. The fact that it's in California stinks, btw.
Anyway, what kind of boxes are typically used when flying with a kit?
Title: Re: First Armor WIP (Any help would be great!)
Post by: Bryn Cin'Prudii on Apr 18, 2019, 10:22 AM
Answering both of your questions.

Look on etsy or if you can 3d print, you can find aurebesh or mando'a stamps, stencils, or even print em out yourself. Look up tutorials on how to create your own stencils and that can help you out.

Good boxes to fly with are the lowes or home depot 24-36 gallon totes with wheels. They lock, are durable and can easily be padded to not impact your kit in transit.
Title: Re: First Armor WIP (Any help would be great!)
Post by: T_Jay00 on Apr 18, 2019, 11:30 AM
Ok, I'll look into those. Thanks!
Title: Re: First Armor WIP (Any help would be great!)
Post by: T_Jay00 on May 12, 2019, 04:13 PM
Is a police belt acceptable for a ammo belt?
Title: Re: First Armor WIP (Any help would be great!)
Post by: T_Jay00 on Oct 28, 2019, 06:50 PM
I'm back  :P

So, its getting colder, and I've decided I need a cape. What's the best material to use for a knee length cape?
Title: Re: First Armor WIP (Any help would be great!)
Post by: T_Jay00 on Oct 05, 2021, 11:33 AM
Alright.
I'm back.
Again.
And this time I've have made a LOT of changes. I've repainted my armor, I have a jetpack now, and I have a much better belt. Anyway, here's some pictures:
(https://i.imgur.com/pWswhxR.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/OOxGZNZ.jpg)

I can't remember if I ever posted pictures of my guns on here, so here they are:
(https://i.imgur.com/AdKRAoj.jpg)

It's been a long 4 years, but here I am. I love this thing.
Title: Re: First Armor WIP (Any help would be great!)
Post by: Cattriss Wren on Oct 05, 2021, 05:28 PM
Su'cuy vode, I really like your new paint job!! Makes you look like your part of shadow collective. Very cool!!! :like: capes are awesome, I am making one as well. As for cape material, as long as you keep your jet pack and back armor or just back armor then you could do a thinner cape kind of like pre vizsla's cape. If you just want a cape with nothing under it then I believe you would want to use a thicker material, like your flak vest. You could also check out the requirements for some better advice.  ;D
I LOVE your blasters!!!
Title: Re: First Armor WIP (Any help would be great!)
Post by: Fenn Beviin on Oct 06, 2021, 10:35 AM
It has certainly been quite awhile lol

Welcome back!

Everything is look pretty great! If you are still looking to add a cape, I use double weave muslin for mine. It's light weight, drapes great, has good 'body' and flows well in the wind.

From the pictures it is hard to tell - have you weathered your black soft parts? It looks like there might be some weathering behind the knees?
Is your flak vest long and tucked into your waist items?

Outside of that, you may be ready to app in. Do you have a local Ruus you have been in contact with?
Title: Re: First Armor WIP (Any help would be great!)
Post by: T_Jay00 on Oct 06, 2021, 03:26 PM
It has certainly been quite awhile lol

Welcome back!

Everything is look pretty great! If you are still looking to add a cape, I use double weave muslin for mine. It's light weight, drapes great, has good 'body' and flows well in the wind.

I've kind of given up on the cape. I don't really need it now, but it would be a cool addition. Thanks for the advice!


From the pictures it is hard to tell - have you weathered your black soft parts? It looks like there might be some weathering behind the knees?
Is your flak vest long and tucked into your waist items?

Yes, I have weathered my stuff to heck and back, but its hard to see in that light. My flak vest? It can barely tuck behind my ammo belt. I have a plan to replace it, but thats expensive, because I want to buy it from someone on here. It'll be awhile before I do that. It's also full of holes from when I tried to attach my chest plates with snaps. And it might be too small now, it was made for me 4 years ago.

Outside of that, you may be ready to app in. Do you have a local Ruus you have been in contact with?

Yeah, I sent a PM to my head honcho, but I have yet to hear from him.
Title: Re: First Armor WIP (Any help would be great!)
Post by: Fenn Beviin on Oct 12, 2021, 10:52 AM
Currently I don't see any of the holes on the vest in the photos - so they must all be behind your plates.

Your flak vest overall seems to fit your size well. For app photos if your vest doesn't stay tucked behind your waist items you can always hem it shorter to leave a gap there like Boba Fett has with his flak vest. How is your mobility in your vest?

Also - with how the waist items attach in the back you will want to make sure that is more evenly secured in the back when taking App style photos as one corner is current askew.

As much as possible, you will also want to have some better lit and larger file sized photos so that the App team can check all aspects of your kit easier.