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Mandalorian Armor => Female Armor => Female Vests/Flightsuits/Soft Parts => Topic started by: Rhysal on Mar 20, 2018, 10:26 PM

Title: Rhysal's Soft Parts!
Post by: Rhysal on Mar 20, 2018, 10:26 PM
Alrighty, I have some things to share as I've officially started my build!

I've started with the flight suit, which I decided to make from scrubs, for comfort and ease of getting into and out of on my own. I was hoping for a light grey flight suit, but was unable to find scrubs in the color or price range I was looking for. I did however find white ones on clearance at Walmart, so I bought them figuring I could dye them.

This was my first time dying anything significant, and it went pretty well! I didn't even make any messes

Before
(https://i.imgur.com/lM8ifp1.jpg?1)

In the dye bath (with plastic around to protect my countertop just in case)
(https://i.imgur.com/8iUMgxE.jpg?1)

And after!
(https://i.imgur.com/LgWX2J5.jpg?1)
To be honest, in some lights they look kind of purple, but I think they'll be okay overall depending on what colors I put against them. I'm hoping I don't have to redye or start over with something else  :-\

Time to start sleeves! I don't really like the look of sewing long sleeves to the short scrub sleeves, so I removed them entirely and cut new sleeves from an extra pair of scrub pants. I used a long sleeve shirt that I think fits fairly well as a template.

(https://i.imgur.com/csPJgRI.jpg?1)
(https://i.imgur.com/kPXc25I.jpg?1)

Tada!
(https://i.imgur.com/X3qmO2g.jpg?1)

For pants I basically did the same thing, used a pair of pants as a guide. I went a little wider than these however as they fit fairly snug.
(https://i.imgur.com/TAWV2pl.jpg?1)

Then tried them on to be sure before cutting, hehe. Don't mind my horrible lighting.
(https://i.imgur.com/15DYJAF.jpg?1)

I don't have any decent in-process pics of that but you get the idea. They're pants.

Here is the suit so far, and I do have a few comments about it.
- sleeves need to be hemmed and maybe taken in a bit yet, I just am not quite sure where to end them in relation to gloves and gauntlets/vambraces
- same for legs, they need to be hemmed but i'm not sure where just yet. Once they are hemmed, I'm sure the bunching at knees and ankles will be taken care of
- I will likely sew down the hip pockets, but I wonder if I can keep the leg pockets? I probably won't use them, but I don't think they're interfere with armour or flap open. I just think the fabric might be discoloured a bit underneath from the dye and it would be less noticeable to leave them on. I can sew them shut if necessary
- Shirt will fit more snugly once a vest and belts are worn. Honestly if I take either of these pieces in any more I won't be able to get out of them ^^'

(https://i.imgur.com/AmQ2HNN.jpg?1)

So, that's where I'm at! I'm happy with the progress so far, and of course will welcome feedback  :)
(I may need to edit this if the images are wonky. I'm new at this!)
Title: Re: Rhysal's Soft Parts!
Post by: Cavian_Morloc on Mar 24, 2018, 06:24 PM
Oritsir...! You're sewing your entire softsuit yourself? I applaud you, vod, for having the patience I don't think I will ever have- I just ordered a military flight suit online. Very good work on what you've gotten done so far!
Title: Re: Rhysal's Soft Parts!
Post by: Havelock on Mar 24, 2018, 10:31 PM
Very nice!
Title: Re: Rhysal's Soft Parts!
Post by: Kris Jasra on Mar 25, 2018, 02:26 AM
Very nice. I made one of my flighsuits myself and it's actually a little looser than that and it still pulls at the seams when I kneel down, so don't try to make a skin tight suit with non stretch material :P

Correct on the pockets, sew up the hip pockets or remove them. The leg pockets can remain, though I do suggest using them if you don't have thigh armour and put tools and such in them to add to your character.
Title: Re: Rhysal's Soft Parts!
Post by: Rhysal on Mar 27, 2018, 06:07 PM
Oritsir...! You're sewing your entire softsuit yourself? I applaud you, vod, for having the patience I don't think I will ever have- I just ordered a military flight suit online. Very good work on what you've gotten done so far!

Thank you much, vod, but I actually started with some scrubs that I purchased and have altered them from there ^^' I am forcing myself to be patient with this build though, as I often rush things and am not happy with the end result. Right now I only have basic sewing skills but I think they should do the trick!
I am going to attempt to make a vest as well, in an effort to save some funds. If it is a total failure, I might have to do some shopping online for one!

Very nice!

Thank you!  ;D

Very nice. I made one of my flighsuits myself and it's actually a little looser than that and it still pulls at the seams when I kneel down, so don't try to make a skin tight suit with non stretch material :P

Correct on the pockets, sew up the hip pockets or remove them. The leg pockets can remain, though I do suggest using them if you don't have thigh armour and put tools and such in them to add to your character.

Thank you for the input vod, very good to know re: pockets! I wasn't sure if I could use them for tools etc, so I'll see what I can come up with.

And regarding tightness, I tested them out the other day (how it must have looked, squatting and kneeling all over the place) and I can kneel fine in them but squatting becomes a bit restricted... But I thought it might be in the end with armour anyways? I was mostly concerned about it looking bunched up once knees or other legs plates were attached/strapped on so I wanted to go for as slim a fit as possible.

I will have to continue my work soon, this build is on my mind a lot at work during the day! :laugh:
Title: Re: Rhysal's Soft Parts!
Post by: Kris Jasra on Mar 28, 2018, 06:33 AM
I made sure I could do pretty much any movement in my softs and then in my armour before making anything. The looks I get from some of my clanmates when I sit myself down crosslegged on the floor is priceless and well worth the time spent testing.

Using scrubs or any other non stretchy material you will end up with some wrinkling and bunching on both arms and legs once armour is strapped on - it's when the bunching is enough that it's hanging over the armour that you know you have some sewing to do. If you want to remove that entirely and have it look skin tight you have to use something with elastane or variants thereof in it so that it stretches with your body movements rather than ripping. Trying to go skin tight with non stretch material will severely limit mobility unless you want to hear things ripping. It's why the CRLs merely state (to paraphrase): 'well tailored and not ultra baggy', as that covers different materials and how much you have to leave to allow for movement in each one.
Title: Re: Rhysal's Soft Parts!
Post by: Kryamla Redalur on Apr 07, 2018, 09:42 PM
I donít have anything to add that Kris hasnít but just wanted to say this is looking great so far :)
Title: Re: Rhysal's Soft Parts!
Post by: Rhysal on May 27, 2018, 12:26 AM
So it's been a while, and I haven't had much time to work on anything but hoping I can get some done this weekend. I ended up finding another pair of scrubs on sale in a color that I liked a better, so now I have to make myself another flight suit... but I think I will like it much better! Then continue tackling the vest. I think I'm close with the pattern so I just have to keep plugging along with it.

I also picked up a pair of boots second hand that I hope can work, I want to try making spats like these so I can cover up the zipper & buckles, and remove them if necessary. https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/index.php?topic=136273.msg1759692#msg1759692 (https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/index.php?topic=136273.msg1759692#msg1759692)

I will need to find some insoles for them too as they could use a bit more support. But I have another pair of boots that I use for a costume, and putting insoles in them helped quite a bit. I could spend a whole day in them at a con, so I'm optimistic for these ones!  :like:

(https://i.imgur.com/35g0reg.jpg?1)

(https://i.imgur.com/aZhjpY3.jpg?2)

(https://i.imgur.com/VgQF9VP.jpg?1)
Title: Re: Rhysal's Soft Parts!
Post by: Rhysal on Jul 31, 2018, 10:14 PM
Long time no update!

I made a flight suit V.2, as I found some scrubs on sale in a better color. So, a chance to make it a little better fitting!

I pinned the pants and did all kinds of squats and stuff to make sure I had a wide range of motion
(https://i.imgur.com/xuucfaA.jpg?3) (https://i.imgur.com/JEjLe5p.jpg?1) (https://i.imgur.com/uBzYRrc.jpg?1)

Also, some not great photos taken with a timer, but hopefully it gives an idea of how it all fits and looks. Sorry for bad quality on the second one, it resized poorly...
(https://i.imgur.com/H5qaEj7.jpg?1) (https://i.imgur.com/Alr9KEO.jpg?1)

Sleeves and legs need to be hemmed yet.

Top was made the same way as before, sleeves were removed and longer sleeves added from a second pair of pants. It's a little tough to get out of, so I might add a zipper in the front, just for ease of getting out of it ^^'
(https://i.imgur.com/GOhIwCt.jpg?1)


I also got a lot done on a vest!

Patterning:
(https://i.imgur.com/hjO9YOJ.jpg?1) (https://i.imgur.com/8vMVewR.jpg?1)

I used a pattern/system of measuring the body at different points and drawing out a pattern. It needed some adjustment for the female form, but it was a good base to start out with. I also decided to do a princess seam because, again, female form...

Trial run with some scrap fabric:
(https://i.imgur.com/owzSbUU.jpg?1) (https://i.imgur.com/nmmnniO.jpg?1)

Added interfacing to the middle panel for some extra strength
(https://i.imgur.com/hOQoqBi.jpg?2)

I had some excess fabric at the upper chest (as I'm not terribly experienced with pattern making and sewing) so I figured adding darts would be the easiest way to deal with it. It should be covered up by the collar plate  :like:
(https://i.imgur.com/u6iOREB.jpg?1) (https://i.imgur.com/dN5TcOJ.jpg?1)


And this is where we're at so far! I think the fit and length is good, the bottom is pretty much at my belly button. I do need to take it in a bit at the armpits, it's a little wide and baggy there, and then add shoulders and a neck seal. Hoping to tackle that in the next few weeks.
(https://i.imgur.com/xK2EetU.jpg?2)


Bonus:
I might dye this fabric and do some spats around these boots. I also plan to make shins that will probably attach to these with velcro
(https://i.imgur.com/1E5RNkO.jpg)
Title: Re: Rhysal's Soft Parts!
Post by: osukaru on Aug 10, 2018, 11:39 PM
I like many such advances in your boots. looks great
Keep on showing your progress.

Regards
Oscar  :jango:
Title: Re: Rhysal's Soft Parts!
Post by: Rhysal on Mar 09, 2019, 12:42 AM
Long, long time, no update. I've been working on parts here and there, and am starting to see things come together. Sort of.

I tried on what I have so far, and it was hard to get a good shot of everything, bit this gives an idea of how it's going

(http://i.imgur.com/aXf85vY.jpg)

Still need to hem the vest, add shoulders and neck seal, and I might add buckles on the side rather than velcro. It's tough to do it up currently.

I've started attaching the fabric strips to the boot covers, we'll see how they turn out. I also started making a belt pouch but am unhappy with it so I'll have to redo it. Girth belt is looking okay, I hope it stays together!

I bought a dark blue skirt at the thrift store that I want to turn into a kama of sorts. Can it be asymmetrical? I have seen a lot of even ones and just wonder if I can make one that is longer on one side.

Honestly I'm trying not to be discouraged, some of the fabric stuff is difficult and time consuming and I haven't been that happy with some of the outcomes
Title: Re: Rhysal's Soft Parts!
Post by: Kris Jasra on Mar 09, 2019, 07:20 AM
Kamas can indeed be asymmetrical.

And don't worry, that's all better than my first attempts many years ago...
Title: Re: Rhysal's Soft Parts!
Post by: KaylinSilverfurr on Mar 10, 2019, 11:53 PM
Oya Rhysal!

Yes, the Soft Parts portion of a build can be the most cumbersome for sure. But you got this. Soft Parts are foundational items, and its important that they fit not only because of looks, but also as functionality.

In terms of your neck seal; are you planning to make it a permanent attachment? I have a neck seal that I was able to swipe from the Alor'ad, and it has both snaps and velcro, and sits just under the neckline of the vest. Its a little easier to get off and on, as well as keep clean after trooping. It might be an option to consider, and I'm more than happy to let you see mine to make a pattern after if you need.

~Kaylin
(Shauna)

Edit: Damn autocorrect.
Title: Re: Rhysal's Soft Parts!
Post by: GardenGeek on Mar 11, 2019, 12:56 AM
Your soft parts are looking great, I really like the grey you chose!  I recommend a separate neck seal if youíre already having a tough time getting the top of your fligh suit on and off :)
Title: Re: Rhysal's Soft Parts!
Post by: Rhysal on Mar 11, 2019, 01:15 PM
Thanks all, this is nice to hear and quite reassuring and encouraging to be honest!

I'm making the neck seal as a separate piece, I have the rectangular piece already and need to add a closure (probably velcro) and the larger piece that sits on my chest/under the vest.

Title: Re: Rhysal's Soft Parts!
Post by: GardenGeek on Mar 11, 2019, 05:44 PM
I highly recommend making the neck seal a bit bigger around than you think that you'll need. Comfort is key! I made mine the right size for my neck, then added ribbing and now whenever I troupe it looks like I got strangled when I de kit. 
Title: Re: Rhysal's Soft Parts!
Post by: Rhysal on Jul 15, 2019, 12:41 AM
I've been working on this a bit again lately, and have a few small updates to share!

My vest has been adjusted slightly, hemmed along the bottom, and I've started adding plates. Here is a photo I also posted in my armour thread, but it shows that the fit of the vest is a bit improved.
(https://i.imgur.com/K2PDXAK.jpg?1)

I've also made a new a new & improved girth belt, which I like much better than the previous one. I'm really loving the texture, and it was fun to work on! It will have a velcro closure, which will be in the back. I'd originally tried using the buckles from my first girth belt, but they weren't really working or looking that good, IMO.
(https://i.imgur.com/dNXxQyg.jpg?1)

More progress was made on a pouch, this is by no means the best stitching you'll ever see, but I hope it will be acceptable. This pouch will be sized to hold personal items, and I plan to make a few smaller ones for visual interest. I will round the front flap yet and add a magnetic closure. It will attach to the belt from the previous photo, which I might have to paint/dye or something to match this vinyl color. I might add some more details to it yet, just to make it look more interesting.
(https://i.imgur.com/C3T8vgR.png?1)

The plan is to continue working on belts/pouches, finish up neck seal and also tackle shoulders.
Title: Re: Rhysal's Soft Parts!
Post by: KaylinSilverfurr on Jul 15, 2019, 05:22 PM
Oya,

If that doesn't work out, for the leather pouches, let me know. Kory and I should be able to whip something up for you with the pattern for my belt bags.

We may ned to adjust the seams on your vest though, as some of the not-grey thread is peeking out.

~Shauna
Title: Re: Rhysal's Soft Parts!
Post by: Rhysal on Jul 15, 2019, 08:56 PM
Oya,

If that doesn't work out, for the leather pouches, let me know. Kory and I should be able to whip something up for you with the pattern for my belt bags.

We may ned to adjust the seams on your vest though, as some of the not-grey thread is peeking out.

~Shauna

Oya,

I believe that's actually the vest fabric... it's a bit lighter on the wrong side and some of that has poked through. All the stitching i did yesterday though is better, so I might just need to redo some of those seams.  :P (Regarding the machine, it looks like I was using the wrong bobbins before.)
Title: Re: Rhysal's Soft Parts!
Post by: Rhysal on Sep 02, 2019, 07:53 PM
Hello all, time for another small (yet large) update.

With the help of beren88's amazing wife, I am well on my way to making a new vest! It took most of the day, but after measuring, adjusting and doing a couple mock ups, we arrived here!

(https://i.imgur.com/YbtBa9J.jpg?1)

We figured that the princess seam might need to move up a bit in the armpit, but otherwise we were SUPER happy with it. It seems to fit so much better than my current vest  ;D I need to try it on with my flight suit top and see how it fits but I'm optimistic.
Title: Re: Rhysal's Soft Parts!
Post by: KaylinSilverfurr on Sep 02, 2019, 10:22 PM
Nicole told me you had to remake your old vest.

This looks great, and I am really liking the purple. I hope that you're much happier with this one. It looks great.

~Shauna