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Mandalorian Armor => Armor Construction => Topic started by: Lynx7386 on Jul 08, 2018, 07:41 PM

Title: Lynx's Build (Pg4. Finally, full kit!)
Post by: Lynx7386 on Jul 08, 2018, 07:41 PM
So I've been wanting to do this for over a year now (probably longer, really) since my younger brother started introducing me to cosplay at comicon and other events.  My brother has been everyone from the flash to aquaman to the joker to kylo ren, though given the fact that he makes some big bucks and has no craft skills to speak of he tends to buy his costumes (some for as much as 4000$), whereas I've never got extra money but have an overflow of creativity and a background in construction, CAD, welding, and engineering.  So, that said, I've finally stopped making excuses and started getting it together to make a mandalorian armor build.

Tonight was step one: got the patterns downloaded, printed, and cut out.  I'm using a mixture of the boba and jango armor patterns (boba upper armor, jango thigh/shin/leg armor).  This will all hopefully be combined with an NME props assassin helmet at a later date, as well as some custom equipment and weapons of my own making.

Next step is to tape and glue these patterns to thicker hardboard, cut it all out again, and finally transfer to sintra sheets and cut those out for forming.  Got a brand new dremel tool and heat gun last week, and an entire maintenance shop full of parts to help me work on this project.

(https://i.imgur.com/dsc7kSp.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/FubQg5s.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/CXZyfOe.jpg)

The patterns I found did not include gauntlets, so I'm going to have to come up with those on my own.  That's probably for the best considering my plans for gauntlet-attached tech and equipment.  I'm hoping to come up with a collapsible clear acrylic shield with LED's on one gauntlet, to mimic the energy shields used by death watch and sabine in clone wars/rebels.  I got the idea from this thread: https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/index.php?topic=153858.0

For the other gauntlet, I'm considering either some kind of cryo-weapon (liquid CO2 emissions) or a retractable blade which would go hand-in-hand with the shield, allowing for melee combat.  Might go with some kind of retractable stun baton/electro-baton instead of an actual blade, still up in the air on that.  If none of those work out, probably just fall back on the typical flamethrower or wrist rocket attachment.

As far as jetpack goes, not sure if I'm going to do a pack (will be necessary for the C02 bottle if I go with a cryo-gauntlet) or if I'll just do the back armor plate and some kind of banner/half-cloak.   A butt-cloak like some of the clone troopers use would be interesting as well: http://i.imgur.com/f9StYsU.jpg

For color and patterning, I'm still not 100% decided but I'll most likely go with a black flightsuit for the base, and either black & silver or black & red armor.  Green is a possibility though, still trying to figure out how everything will look when it's done.  I do want to include some kind of feline iconography, perhaps a nexu or tusk cat emblem painted somewhere on the helmet, armor, or cloak (if I go that route).

Weaponry will probably be limited to a basic single pistol, something dl-44ish (always a fan of solo'd gun), but I'm also looking into making a rotating three-barrel heavy repeating blaster at some point.
Title: Re: Finally getting started - Lynx's build
Post by: Fenris Claddanna on Jul 09, 2018, 10:07 AM
Looks like you have a good start. Before you get your sintra cut, I'd heartily suggest taking a photo with the templates taped onto you so we can check how they fit you, and notate any adjustments that may be necessary.

As far as vambraces go, most folks seem to go with 3D printed ones, but I do know that templates exist for scratchbuilding the Boba style ones. They should be the sixth and seventh links down on the template page.

On your ideas for the vambrace weapons, the blade would have to be manually operated - no springs or anything like that, as per the CRLs. I would definitely encourage you to run the CO2 idea past the App Team before you start, because I suspect that that's probably going to also be a no. I vaguely recall one of my clanmates talking with one of our Ruus'alors about a similar idea, and I believe they were told no as well. That being said, there's nothing that says you can't determine that the flamethrower housing is actually a carbonite projector and visually differentiate it a bit. Maybe a bit of frost patterning on it, or something like that. Heck, any time I'm asked, I tell people that my flamethrower is a wrist-mounted micro-repeater, and my wrist rocket is actually an energy flechette launcher.

Kama's are fun. Just make sure that you don't wrap it too far around to where it becomes a skirt or kilt.

A word of caution on doing an all-black kit: they rarely photograph well, so if you are going to have everything be black, play with textures and finishes to differentiate pieces. Maybe use twill for your flightsuit, leather for the flak vest, and then have the plates themselves be gloss black.

Your other weapons  and accessories ideas sound fine. For the shield, might I suggest a magnetic attachment? That way, should you need or want to, the shield itself is removable.

Hope this all helps, and I look forward to your build. Cheers!
Title: Re: Finally getting started - Lynx's build
Post by: Lynx7386 on Jul 09, 2018, 01:28 PM
Was thinking an automated shield like this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJ0unSMWtsk
Title: Re: Finally getting started - Lynx's build
Post by: Raynos Ge'tal on Jul 09, 2018, 06:27 PM
With regards to the shield, if you want to emulate the Enfys nest shields from Solo it would be a good in universe reference.  With regards to the gauntlets there are several vendors on the supply depot that can provide you with great bases to work off of, or there is the PVC pipe and piano hinge route.   
cheap weaponry/cryo sprayer using  the end of a power washer  wand cut down to size would be a great base. then the grip from it would be good for your rifle/pistol weaponry. Take your time and work through the parts and always measure twice cut once.
Title: Re: Finally getting started - Lynx's build
Post by: Lynx7386 on Jul 09, 2018, 09:47 PM
I had forgotten about those shields from solo, apparently they're even made out of mandalorian iron... interesting.  I'm not sure I really like the design though, I was going for more of a circular shield/buckler shape.  The expanding/collapsing segments is spot on though.

Title: Re: Finally getting started - Lynx's build
Post by: Lynx7386 on Jul 10, 2018, 07:59 PM
Got all the pieces of the paper pattern glued onto sheets of thicker stock paper (hardboard).  Have to cut those out again, then transfer to sintra.

I'll definitely post some pictures once the stock is cut out again to make sure sizing is good.  I'm 5'11" and using the 6'0" pattern as it's the closest one available in the patterns list, might be slightly large but I think it'll turn out ok.

(https://i.imgur.com/8iHMaAq.jpg)
Title: Re: Finally getting started - Lynx's build
Post by: Raynos Ge'tal on Jul 12, 2018, 09:12 AM
Have you taken pictures and gotten feedback with the paper patterns on you?
Title: Re: Finally getting started - Lynx's build
Post by: Lynx7386 on Jul 12, 2018, 01:42 PM
Have you taken pictures and gotten feedback with the paper patterns on you?

Not just yet, I'll probably post pictures here tonight.  I was about to get to that point when I realized I ran into my first mistake - I accidentaly mixed up some of the pieces (namely the right chest and belly armor pieces) between the boba and jango patterns, so one chest piece was a boba pattern, and the other was jango, so I had to go back and find the proper piece and cut it out again, then the belly plate didnt match up to the chest plates anymore so I had to change that as well.

Waiting on the glue to dry, then some more cutting out the new pieces, and I'll get around to the pictures tonight.  Just had the alternator go out in my truck and my dog is sick, so those unexpected expenses may lead to further delays on getting the sintra =/
Title: Re: Finally getting started - Lynx's build
Post by: Lynx7386 on Jul 13, 2018, 12:11 AM
Ok, time to check sizing:

(https://i.imgur.com/CgIEZml.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/IIALNt8.jpg)

For the most part I think it's good.  I definitely will need to trim the back piece where it matches up to the collar.  Overall I think they're just very slightly on the large side for me, but after adding the bulk of a flight suit and vest should look perfect.  The back belt and cod piece sides are almost perfect (they're 42" circumference, and my waist is like 40-41", so once I add on a flight suit it should be a snug fit).  I'll probably find some way of clamping them together or using a buckle between them?  Not sure.

Didnt picture the leg pieces as they were more difficult to attach and display, but they all look good to my eye when fitting to myself.  Still havent done anything as far as gauntlets yet either, that'll be in the future I think.  Might just go with the piano hinge and pvc method and use sintra for the build-up/3 dimensional bits.

Any opinions on the sizing/spacing? 
Title: Re: Finally getting started - Lynx's build (Sizing/spacing posted)
Post by: Raynos Ge'tal on Jul 13, 2018, 08:27 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/iiftqWG.jpg)
plates are a tad wide, i recommend trimming a bit off just to plan for the eventuality of being totally kitted up and wanting the ability to cross your arms and not be bound up by your plates.   im not sure on their length. where is your navel? that will help me get an idea of length of the plates.    with regards to the cod trim it down some so its not getting caught on your thighs and whatnot as you walk. overall great first plating and good job on getting the collar in the right place the first time, that is usually the biggest problem I see with spacing photos.
(https://i.imgur.com/2A3cVOS.jpg)
backplates are more of a team effort and I strongly recommend getting your local clan involved in helping you make it but here are my suggested trims take it how you will.
Title: Re: Finally getting started - Lynx's build (Sizing/spacing posted)
Post by: Lynx7386 on Jul 13, 2018, 01:03 PM
Thanks for the tips.  I'll look into trimming a bit, but I think part of why everything looks so wide right now is because the pieces are all flat and havent been folded/shaped at all (these are still the paper patterns, not on sintra yet).  A little apprehensive about trimming the chest pieces down that much right now because it might end up changing the shape too much.

I do have a question about the shoulder bells, though (obviously not in the pictures): with the current way the chest/collar/back pieces fit, there's no way to really stick them on like you see with jango's outfit (where they kind of poke out horizontally at a slight downward angle).

Is it acceptable for the shoulder bells to be curved and placed on the outside of the upper arm, like from bicep to tricep), rather than directly on top of the shoulder?


EDIT:

Here's the cut and refitted pieces.  I definitely think it came out better on the front (I trimmed the collar by 1" on each side, as well as the two chest pieces by 1" on the outside edge and the gut plate by 1" on each side).  Trimmed the cod plate about 1-1/2" up from the bottom point and made it a straight edge instead of a point, looks better that way IMO.  I cut the back plate to be the same width as the collar plate edges at the top, and then took the outside edge down from about 1" at the top to 0 at the bottom above the parts that extend left and right.  Those were also trimmed 1" each on the outside edge, and on the bottom.

(https://i.imgur.com/t7xa4LW.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/ajPz0j6.jpg)

BTW, navel is roughly 1" below the bottom edge of the gut plate


EDIT:

This is what I was thinking with the shoulder bells - putting them around the upper arm, rather than extending out from the shoulders.  Would that be ok?
(https://i.imgur.com/mAJB5sC.jpg)


And here's a quick mockup of the overall armor using gimp, just drawing out the shapes roughly:
(https://i.imgur.com/jdsFTYv.jpg)
Title: Re: Lynx's Build
Post by: Lynx7386 on Jul 27, 2018, 08:46 AM
Got my sintra ordered and I'm waiting on it to arrive.  Until then, playing around with concepts for the color scheme and patterning.  I'm not 100% set on the black/gold idea shown here, but I think it doesnt look  bad.  Thing is, my flightsuit may end up being the actual flight suit my grandfather used while flying fighter jets in vietnam (I brought up the need for a flight suit while talking to family and my dad said he's got that one in storage somewhere), it would be awesome to be able to use an item of significance to my family as part of my armor.  I'm pretty sure it'll be a green flightsuit, but I wont know until I see it, so the colors will have to be based somewhat around that.

If it does end up being a green air force flight suit, what colors would go best with that as far as armor?  BTW, the gold parts of the picture below are trauma plating, already got the patterns cut out for those.  The second picture is just messing around with the idea of using a kama/half skirt and placement for a mythosaur skull on the back, which probably wont happen.

(https://i.imgur.com/MJ7mNzl.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/DGzBW9M.png)
Title: Re: Lynx's Build
Post by: Tek Sa'an on Jul 27, 2018, 09:27 AM
This is great. I love when people know what they want to do and plan it out. As far as the shoulder bells go, yes, you can definitely have them the way you want them. I'm not a fan of flaring out bells. I can't wait to see more progress from you. Nice work so far.
Title: Re: Lynx's Build
Post by: Lynx7386 on Jul 27, 2018, 10:59 AM
This is great. I love when people know what they want to do and plan it out. As far as the shoulder bells go, yes, you can definitely have them the way you want them. I'm not a fan of flaring out bells. I can't wait to see more progress from you. Nice work so far.


Oh no, the shoulder bells will be curved around the shoulder and upper arm - i only left them flat in the picture to show the trauma plating/color detail.
Title: Re: Lynx's Build
Post by: Tek Sa'an on Jul 27, 2018, 11:11 AM
I understood you about them being curved around your arm. I was referring to the flaring of Jango's, primarily. I'm not of fan of super flared bells. I like when they conform to the arm.
Title: Re: Lynx's Build
Post by: Lynx7386 on Jul 27, 2018, 06:46 PM
So the flight suit I may be getting is definitely green, I'm trying to decide on a new color scheme.

Current plan is black nomex flight gloves, flak vest, boots, waist wrap, and kama (if I do the kama idea afterall, still undecided).  Flight suit is green.  I'm thinking maybe earth tones would match best, so brown/tan/dark green?

(https://i.imgur.com/wZd7oBv.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/xbPDk8f.png)
Title: Re: Lynx's Build
Post by: Tek Sa'an on Jul 27, 2018, 11:44 PM
I like the first picture. You'd be just a little brighter. I like it.
Title: Re: Lynx's Build
Post by: Lynx7386 on Jul 28, 2018, 02:03 PM
Started working on a jetpack today using scrap, junk, and spare parts.  Thread for it is in the jetpack forum:
https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/index.php?topic=156896.0



Made the base gauntlets tonight, using the piano hinge & pvc pipe method.  They fit pretty snugly on bare arms so when I get the flight suit and gloves added into the mix they may be a little too tight.  I suppose I can adjust the closure to account for that, and cover any gap left on the inside of the arm with an extra piece of sintra.  Unfortunately I couldnt go any bigger, as this is already using 4" pvc pipe (and 6" would've been way too big).

(https://i.imgur.com/ejqAtGg.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/keby1j2.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/VisrGFz.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/l6RLpWc.jpg)

(didnt even notice my daughter's hand showed up in that last picture, the little gremlin!)

I still have to do the equipment/attachments obviously, trying to decide on what I'll go with as far as wrist mounted goodies.  I'll probably do a rail/blaster attachment on one arm (as seen on the death watch guys & pre-viszla in clone wars), as I have some parts that'll work perfectly for that.  I may do a flamethrower on the opposite gauntlet.  I want to run a fuel line from one gauntlet to the backpack/jetpack if I go that route.

Update of the jetpack, had to alter it a bit as some of the parts just didnt look right.  With the added heat shielding around the nozzles and plating over the motor it looks a lot better I think.  I still have to re-attach the exhaust nozzles, waiting on everything else to dry first, then it'll be on to priming and painting.

(https://i.imgur.com/OAg6bgU.jpg)
Title: Re: Lynx's Build (gauntlets/jetpack started)
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Title: Re: Lynx's Build (gauntlets/jetpack started)
Post by: Straka Zulu on Aug 01, 2018, 01:11 PM
That is a badshebs jetpack!

As for color scheme, I agree with Tek on the lighter colored plates.
Title: Re: Lynx's Build (gauntlets/jetpack started)
Post by: Lynx7386 on Aug 02, 2018, 03:36 PM
I actually am abandoning the junk jetpack I think.  It looks great in pictures, but it came out too small (fits inbetween my shoulderblades, and looks pretty tiny on me, might be great for a kid's jetpack though) and after putting primer and a silver paint coat on it it looks really rough and shoddy.

I have a new design I'm going to build out of PVC pipe instead, should only run about 40-50$ in material cost for 3x 4"x24" pipes, 1 each 3" and 2" by 24" pipes, and some endcaps.  Here's a rough draft of the new jetpack drawn up in gimp and sized to my back.  It'll be roughly 15" wide, as opposed to the less than 12" of the other one, as well as look bulkier and more squared off:

(https://i.imgur.com/PhVmQDm.png)
Title: Re: Lynx's Build (gauntlets/jetpack started)
Post by: T_Jay00 on Aug 03, 2018, 09:19 AM
That looks amazing! If you make a how-to on that jetpack, I would be forever in your debt. I'm thinking I need a jetpack, but had no idea how to make or get one that was within a reasonable price range.
Title: Re: Lynx's Build (gauntlets/jetpack started)
Post by: Lynx7386 on Aug 03, 2018, 12:19 PM
That looks amazing! If you make a how-to on that jetpack, I would be forever in your debt. I'm thinking I need a jetpack, but had no idea how to make or get one that was within a reasonable price range.

Sure thing,  I'll take pictures as I go and document everything.  My sintra finally came in yesterday so i probably won't work on the jetpack until my armor is done.


EDIT:

Started tracing out my patterns onto the sintra sheets.  Looks like I'll easily be able to fit all of my armor and trauma plating/detail pieces onto two sheets (well, about 1-1/2 sheets, got a lot of room left on the second sheet still), which is great because it'll leave me the extra material I need to work on the jetpack, gauntlet details, guns, etc.

(https://i.imgur.com/miPTBhi.jpg)
Title: Re: Lynx's Build (gauntlets/jetpack started)
Post by: Havelock on Aug 03, 2018, 02:20 PM
I'm sad to hear that you're abandoning the jet pack, because it was really cool.  But I can respect your decision.   ;D  I'm looking forward to watching the rest of your build progress.
Title: Re: Lynx's Build (gauntlets/jetpack started)
Post by: rlobrecht on Aug 03, 2018, 03:38 PM
I actually am abandoning the junk jetpack I think.  It looks great in pictures, but it came out too small (fits inbetween my shoulderblades, and looks pretty tiny on me,

The jetpacks in Rebels are very small.
(http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad36/DarkYumeria/white%20pack%206.jpg)

I think your junk jetpack is very cool looking.

Title: Re: Lynx's Build (Update: Armor!)
Post by: Lynx7386 on Aug 04, 2018, 02:52 AM
Excited for this update, I've been busy all night working on cutting out and shaping the sintra into my armor plates and test fitting a few.  This is starting to turn from a bunch of concepts into reality!

(https://i.imgur.com/m8tgCE8.jpg)


(https://i.imgur.com/IbhVrsR.jpg)

UPDATE:

Working on the gauntlets a bit more tonight, including my fuel lines and flamethrowers.  Plenty of room left for the other attachments/equipment I have planned, too:

(https://i.imgur.com/84Bc0II.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/k1bJeXl.jpg)

EDIT:

Got some extra form added to the gauntlets (as a base for buttons/interfaces) and I'm working on putting together some explosive dart launchers and other little greeblies to improve the detail:

(https://i.imgur.com/VjUk4SQ.jpg)
Title: Re: Lynx's Build (Update: Armor!)
Post by: Lynx7386 on Aug 05, 2018, 11:55 AM
Trauma plating has been shaped and glued to the base plates.  I tried purple primer and pvc cement on the collar plate first, and it failed miserably - the cement just wont hold for some reason.  After that failed I just ended up using gorilla superglue and that held quick and much stronger than the pvc cement.  I'll probably silicone around all the edges of the plates to give a welded on appearance and help fill the gaps where the trauma plate and base plate dont exactly line up.  Also have to trim down the edges that overhang.

(https://i.imgur.com/obOXulk.jpg)

Also got the dart launchers added to the gauntlets, and some other details.  The left gauntlet is supposed to have a holo communicator attachment, while the right one is just a button instead.  Not sure I'm happy with how those details came out but I may improve on them further.  Also still have some buttons and dials to add around them, but ran out of superglue doing the trauma plates.

(https://i.imgur.com/g6LMi7s.jpg)

EDIT:

Decided to leave the overhang on the shoulder and ab trauma plates, kinda gives it some extra 3 dimensionality that I like.

I had to re-make the collar plate, this time without the extra trauma piece on it, I didnt like how it came out before.
Title: Re: Lynx's Build (Update: New jetpack in progress)
Post by: Lynx7386 on Aug 06, 2018, 12:20 PM
Working on a new jetpack to replace the 'junk' one, this one is much better sized and hopefully matches the design of my armor more:

(https://i.imgur.com/scYGCjs.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/x37lRlU.jpg)

I still have a lot of work to do on it.  Exhaust nozzles arent on yet, and I need to add extra plating to the side tubes to break up the simple cylinder shape more.  Also greeblies, lots of greeblies.  The two attachments on the middle fuel cells are for the fuel lines that will go to the gauntlet flamethrowers.
Title: Re: Lynx's Build (Update: New pictures added of full build so far)
Post by: Lynx7386 on Aug 12, 2018, 05:45 PM
Ok, got the jetpack more or less finalized (before paint), and new pictures of all the cleaned up plates and new gauntlet details.  Lots of pics incoming:

(https://i.imgur.com/PuGacVe.jpg)
Jetpack assembly with connected gauntlets. Tube length will have to be cut down but I wont know exactly how much until I have the entire kit put together, that'll probably be one of the last steps.

(https://i.imgur.com/x4tVvp4.jpg)
Jetpack and gauntlets, tilted up for a better view of the pack.

(https://i.imgur.com/xTZ5bu0.jpg)
Lower body armor (from top to bottom): Kidney plate, Cod plate, Thigh plates, Knee plates, Shin plates, and Boot plates. Shin plates still need some reshaping, and the knee plates may or may not be kept as-is, they're kind of a custom work in progress.

(https://i.imgur.com/Fobfa3l.jpg)
Right gauntlet. Flamethrower at top, with attached explosive dart launcher (yellow tip is the dart). This gauntlet features a holocomm interface for communications.

(https://i.imgur.com/QNrr2FU.jpg)
Jetpack exhaust nozzles, detail view. The nozzles were made from a disassembled track light casing (LED and other bits removed), with a toilet bolt cap glued into the center to give that turbine appearance. Each exhaust nozzle is angled slightly outward

(https://i.imgur.com/1yHCyYQ.jpg)
Lower body armor, different view.

(https://i.imgur.com/DzXRWkx.jpg)
Left gauntlet. This one features the same flamethrower and dart launcher as the right gauntlet, but the holocomm interface is replaced with various other controls - targeting, remote detonators, etc.

(https://i.imgur.com/mgCb9UO.jpg)
Jetpack, air intake detail view. The air intakes were made from the outer casing of a battery powered touch-light.

(https://i.imgur.com/42yLQIz.jpg)
Upper body armor, from top to bottom: Back plate, shoulder bells, collar plate, Left/right breastplates with center diamond, gut plate, and the two off to the sides are the backhand plates for the gloves.

(https://i.imgur.com/aRwGqIB.jpg)
Upper body armor, alternate view.


Thats all for now, hopefully I can start some of the painting next weekend.
Title: Re: Lynx's Build (Update: New pictures added of full build so far)
Post by: Jennari on Aug 12, 2018, 06:46 PM
Looks very cool, ner vod.
Title: Re: Lynx's Build (Update: New pictures added of full build so far)
Post by: Straka Zulu on Aug 12, 2018, 08:16 PM
Put it on!!!
Put it on!!!
Title: Re: Lynx's Build (Update: New pictures added of full build so far)
Post by: Lynx7386 on Aug 12, 2018, 09:39 PM
Lol I wish I could but I have no way to attach anything yet.  Still need a flight suit, vest, gloves, boots, etc.
Title: Re: Lynx's Build (Update: New pictures added of full build so far)
Post by: Sep Ho'ban on Aug 12, 2018, 10:52 PM
tape works :p pretty sure most of us have pics in our wip of armor taped on lol
Title: Re: Lynx's Build (Update: New pictures added of full build so far)
Post by: Raynos Ge'tal on Aug 17, 2018, 09:35 AM
Bluenpainters tape is a wonderful thing indeed
Title: Re: Lynx's Build (Update: New pictures added of full build so far)
Post by: Lynx7386 on Aug 17, 2018, 11:24 PM
Ok so these are the best pictures I could get tonight.  Fitting this stuff with cheap knock-off duck tape that doesnt adhere to anything, by yourself, and trying to get everything to stay in place while you take pictures with a timer, is definitely not easy.  This is the last chance I have to modify any pieces before I paint them, so I could use some comments =P

I had to take these in three sections: upper body, lower body, and then the jetpack by itself.  The jetpack is relatively heavy and I currently have no way to actually attach it to the back plate, I'm still trying to figure that out (could definitely use suggestions there).  Worst case, Once the paint is done I can actually put some screws from the inside of the back plate through into the jetpack to hold it on, but I have to find some way to also make sure that the back plate is super secure to my body so that it doesnt fall off along with the jetpack.

(https://i.imgur.com/j1Yxifx.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/gcnhl3n.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/VFeAQiC.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/QXoUALh.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/f8Jetrx.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/0XDCQhQ.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/vLDq6BU.jpg)

The backplate is, for some odd reason, riding really high in those pictures, it sits about 1-2 inches above my shoulders with a noticable gap, but I know it fits lower than that when I hold it onto my back so I think it's just a case of not being able to properly tape it into place by myself.  When combined, the bottom of the jetpack (the flat plate between the exhaust ducts) will be even with the top of the curved cutout on the bottom of the back plate.

Title: Re: Lynx's Build (Update: New pictures added of full build so far)
Post by: Sep Ho'ban on Aug 18, 2018, 12:16 AM
The fangs on the chest plates are sticking away from your body a bit.

It's hard to tell much about spacing given the angle of the photos, but spacing can be fixed after paint.  Before you paint the backplate... I'd get someone else to hold it on you and take side photos.  It needs to be sitting on you without airgaps.

Trim some off your thighs so they're not overlapping the knees -- I realize they slid down, but they're still goin to be crowding.  Ditto for the top of your shins interacting with the bottom of your knees.

A lot of people do  the straps and parachute clips through the backplate to the jetpack thing.  Look for some jetpack builds and you should be able to find some photos.
Title: Re: Lynx's Build (Update: New pictures added of full build so far)
Post by: Lynx7386 on Aug 18, 2018, 01:20 AM
The fangs on the chest plates are sticking away from your body a bit.

It's hard to tell much about spacing given the angle of the photos, but spacing can be fixed after paint.  Before you paint the backplate... I'd get someone else to hold it on you and take side photos.  It needs to be sitting on you without airgaps.

Trim some off your thighs so they're not overlapping the knees -- I realize they slid down, but they're still goin to be crowding.  Ditto for the top of your shins interacting with the bottom of your knees.

A lot of people do  the straps and parachute clips through the backplate to the jetpack thing.  Look for some jetpack builds and you should be able to find some photos.

The fangs on the chest plates are another victim of the poor tape, when I hold them on they're very form fitting and nothing sticks out.  Same goes for the back plate, it fits pretty snug at the top and around the sides, the only spots where there's any kind of 'gap' are at the back of the arms where it curves around, but that's more because sintra doesnt do compound curves than anything.  It'll also be hidden by other parts of the armor.

I'll see what I can do about the thigh plates.  I dont want to trim the shin plates anymore (they've already been trimmed down twice and right now they feel a bit too short).  If anything, the knee plates are too tall and I could take some off the top of those.



Been a long day of painting, and I've run into a couple almost disastrous problems.  Primarily, I made the rookie mistake of using silicone to fill any gaps between my plates (as well as a couple cracks that happened while cutting the sintra), and everywhere I put silicone the paint didnt stick at all.  So, when I was doing the masking and gold layer with painter's tape, pulling the tape off pulled half of my paint off as well.  I managed to fix the majority of it by repainting those areas by hand with a brush (spraying the paint into a container and then using it as a liquid paint with a small brush).  I just hope it holds, and that once I put a clear coat on everything will be held in place for eternity.

Which brings me to a question: What clearcoat should I use?  This has all been done with rustoleum paint, both gloss and metalics, so I want a clearcoat that wont interact with them.  Last time I did a spraypaint project was on my wife's mountain bike, and when I went to spray the clearcoat it completely ruined my beautiful paint job by cracking and tearing up the paint as it dried.  Any suggestions?

The other issue is that I used petroleum jelly for all the areas where I wanted the black coat to rub off and show the silver metallic paint underneath (weathering/damage).  Problem is, now that I've wiped everything off with a rag and have my nice weathered armor, its all covered in a thin sheen of petroleum jelly that makes everything greasy.  I sure as hell cant clearcoat over that, so what can I use to remove the petroleum without damaging the paint?

Anyways, pictures of my progress so far - not pictured are the thigh plates, back plate, and boot plates, because all of those didnt have a gold coat added (they're just black gloss with the weathering/damage):

(https://i.imgur.com/dv7n2iM.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/i55y1RU.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/1BoI8C9.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/VBgTEBG.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/llIOJL8.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/TtK4Ktw.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/HEuSXQ2.jpg)

I plan to paint the exhaust nozzles for the jetpack back to a metallic silver, just havent had a chance to yet.  Unless I mask everything again I'll probably have to do that by hand.  I also still need to hand paint in all the details on the gauntlets/buttons, and add some detail to the jetpack.
Title: Re: Lynx's Build (Update: Paint done! (mostly))
Post by: Sep Ho'ban on Aug 18, 2018, 08:45 PM
Clearcoat: Stick to rustoleum since you used rustoleum paints --  I like to use a matte clearcoat to take the shiny down a bit

Petroleum jelly:  Rubbing Alochol and Warm Soapy Water are going to be the safest bets -- with WsW being safer.  But... either of them will probably take the paint off the silicone.    You may end up neededing to dig enough of it out so that you can get a layer of epoxy in that sticks to the sintra on either side of the trench.  But I may be wrong, haven't tried painting the stuff.
Title: Re: Lynx's Build (Update: Paint done! (mostly))
Post by: Jennari on Aug 19, 2018, 03:55 PM
Looking good, vod. Awesome work!
Title: Re: Lynx's Build (Update: Paint done! (mostly))
Post by: jett drexel on Aug 19, 2018, 04:13 PM
Baby wipes mate.... should shift the vaseline whilst being gentle on baby's skin makes them ideal.
Title: Re: Lynx's Build (Update: Paint done! (mostly))
Post by: Lynx7386 on Aug 19, 2018, 06:44 PM
Baby wipes mate.... should shift the vaseline whilst being gentle on baby's skin makes them ideal.

I'll try that, I have a 15 month old daughter so baby wipes are already available =p
Title: Re: Lynx's Build (Update: Paint done! (mostly))
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Title: Re: Lynx's Build (Update: Paint done! (mostly))
Post by: Tek Sa'an on Aug 20, 2018, 05:46 PM
Nice work, Lynx. As far as a harness for the jetpack, I recommend this from TK-409:
(https://i.imgur.com/N6gMxcc.gif)

Keep it up.
Title: Re: Lynx's Build (Update: Paint done! (mostly))
Post by: Lynx7386 on Aug 20, 2018, 06:27 PM
Nice work, Lynx. As far as a harness for the jetpack, I recommend this from TK-409:
(https://i.imgur.com/N6gMxcc.gif)

Keep it up.

Just a few things...

I didnt cut the slots out from my backplate, for various reasons.  At this point, my plan is to bolt the jetpack directly to the backplate from the inside (so it will be attached without anything being visible, and then running straps from the backplate wings around my shoulders and waist.  These straps would be above the flak vest, but under any other armor plates.  I'm a bit torn between whether I should make the straps more or less visible: I could make them out of black nylon strapping like you see on backpacks, which would make it blend in with the vest material at least at a distance, or I could make them out of leather/pleather so they're visible and add detail to the kit as a whole.  Any suggestions?

The same issue goes for all of my armor plates, particularly the Cod/Kidney plate and the thigh/knee/shin plates: I want to have them attach via straps (probably velcro straps) around the back of my legs for the thigh/knee/shin plates and similar straps between the cod/kidney plate sides where they line up.  I can make these straps out of nylon or out of leather, I just dont know which route would be best.

I also havent figured out a closure mechanism for my gauntlets yet.  I was thinking of going the same route, using straps or leather and buckles to close them up on the outside.
Title: Re: Lynx's Build (Update: Paint done! (mostly))
Post by: Raynos Ge'tal on Aug 24, 2018, 09:56 AM
Leather will be more likely to last, nylon works though.
I worry that running the straps over but under will lead to plate shifting and cause alignment issues. Your best bet is to wear the harness under the flak and do decorative straps that run outside the chest plates instead of under them and then connect them to a waist belt in order to reduce strain on your back. After a mile or two in parade a jetpack can get to be a pain.

I'd go magnets and straps so if you needed to take off the pack you dont have holes in your armor.
Title: Re: Lynx's Build (Update: Paint done! (mostly))
Post by: Lynx7386 on Sep 16, 2018, 02:38 PM
Havent been able to get much done lately due to hobby funds running low, but I did pick up a set of enamel model paints and did some of the detail work on the gauntlets and jetpack thrusters:

(https://i.imgur.com/OVJN87X.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/IA2YocB.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/H5gAT3c.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/Rni5mJw.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/llssElb.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/IKEIQTu.jpg)
Title: Re: Lynx's Build (Update: Paint done! (mostly))
Post by: Lynx7386 on Oct 30, 2018, 10:56 PM
I'm almost there!

(https://i.imgur.com/MdIsGzZ.jpg)
(Note: Flight suit, leather belts, left glove, leg armor, etc. is all not on in this picture)

I'm aware that many parts of my kit are not going to be up to CRL, but I rushed to finish this for comicon (actually missed it, was last weekend) and halloween tomorrow night.  I still have a lot of work to do on the kit overall, but I think it's coming along pretty well considering this is my first ever venture into DIY cosplay.  Already have ideas for my 'next' kit, and now that I've done this once I can learn from all the mistakes I made (and there were many).
Title: Re: Lynx's Build (Pg4. Almost finished)
Post by: Tek Sa'an on Oct 31, 2018, 09:48 AM
That looks great. You've done an amazing job on everything. No worries about CRL compliance - this is why we have Ruus'alore to help you. They will guide you in the right direction. It is coming together nicely. Keep it up!
Title: Re: Lynx's Build (Pg4. Almost finished)
Post by: Lynx7386 on Oct 31, 2018, 09:14 PM
Finally got to suit up in my full kit for my company's halloween party tonight, was a blast and I got a ton of compliments on the outfit.

(https://i.imgur.com/HTFIoqL.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/56rwuzX.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/m50mlnT.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/sBjGwSs.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/Z91JGY1.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/BDRCXbU.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/rFIbWnz.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/C54KlyX.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/leTQALo.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/hwZpLrc.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/OF17rqI.jpg)
Title: Re: Lynx's Build (Pg4. Finally, full kit!)
Post by: Straka Zulu on Nov 01, 2018, 07:30 AM
You can SIT and KNEEL!! For a first build, that is quite the accomplishment! :like: :like:

Honestly, a couple of minor adjustments, and this one could be good to go. Just talk to your Ruus, see what they say.

Good luck, and good hunting!
Title: Re: Lynx's Build (Pg4. Finally, full kit!)
Post by: Tek Sa'an on Nov 01, 2018, 09:19 AM
That looks fantastic! I agree with Straka on some minor adjustments. But yes, talk to your Ruus'alor and see what they say. You've done a great job. I'm glad you were able to wear it and test it.
Title: Re: Lynx's Build (Pg4. Finally, full kit!)
Post by: Lynx7386 on Nov 01, 2018, 12:17 PM
Yea it wasn't easy sitting and kneeling though lol

I already have plans for my next kit, this one was a first time trial.   I'd like to do a slightly viking- inspired melee mando next, with a pair of vibro axes instead of a blaster, no jetpack, and possibly implement chainmaille and scale maille into it (I've done both for renaissance fair projects before).