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Mandalorian Armor => Equipment & Accessories => Weapons Armory => Topic started by: Cowboy_KenFL on Oct 27, 2018, 12:53 PM

Title: Weapons WIP for Ratiin... Pic heavy
Post by: Cowboy_KenFL on Oct 27, 2018, 12:53 PM
Quad laser on back burner. Some logistics to work out.  :-\

Doing my "small" weapons. I've been told if I use "nerf" style blasters I need to heavily modify them. So,  here are some images of what it was, where it is now and (eventually) the results.
Please give me your thoughts,  I'd like them to pass on the 1st round from Apps. Thanks!

Where it started...
(https://i.imgur.com/mnD87nz.png)

Where it started 3/4 view... to show where narrowed.
(https://i.imgur.com/1VZhYQy.png)

Handle raised, and trigger guard shortened;  "safety" removed from opposite side. Will be adding a rounded barrel. Also, adding a hammer and less "nerf" trigger.
(https://i.imgur.com/NQv1fTj.jpg)

Can see some of the narrowing here. Current barrel cap hasn't been narrowed (yet). Round barrel not added, yet.
(https://i.imgur.com/EG9p89x.jpg)

Where it started... (mine is grey)
(https://i.imgur.com/Cytq174.jpg)

Bowcaster,  after some major cuts... becoming more of a hand cannon.
(https://i.imgur.com/iobBgmZ.jpg)
Title: Re: Weapons WIP for Ratiin... Pic heavy
Post by: tomzom on Oct 27, 2018, 02:51 PM
bigger grip and some greeblies, that bow casters gonna make an awesome heavy blaster
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Post by: Cowboy_KenFL on Oct 27, 2018, 09:39 PM
Tomzom- My same thoughts.

I cut out the rectangular mounting point for the darts holder; on the opposite side. Going to make it into a clip loading spot. It'll make the blaster left handed only, but that's okay.
I'm looking at putting a Stawarsy cooling shroud over the barrel. Figuring out the rest, as I go.

Find I lost post I made... a long time ago, in a galaxy far away... Oops! That was geeky! LOL

Anyways, it had an image of what I was wanting to do with the bowcaster.

http://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/index.php?topic=95571.msg1389356#msg1389356 (http://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/index.php?topic=95571.msg1389356#msg1389356)
Title: Re: Weapons WIP for Ratiin... Pic heavy
Post by: Cowboy_KenFL on Feb 12, 2019, 01:29 PM
Where I'm at with one of my blasters...

(https://i.imgur.com/xRXUtnt.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/DMW6CZ2.jpg)

What y'all think??
Title: Re: Weapons WIP for Ratiin... Pic heavy
Post by: Hellwolve on Feb 12, 2019, 02:05 PM
To be honest, it looks too 'cyberpunk' to me; too fiddly to belong in the Star Wars universe :(
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Post by: LusjoOrdo on Feb 17, 2019, 06:15 PM
I like it personally. Honestly the Tobias Beckett sidearms made me realize any gun design can pop up in Star Wars. Especially since they labeled them as a BlasTech design which prior to that, their blasters look nothing like his normally.
Title: Re: Weapons WIP for Ratiin... Pic heavy
Post by: Novoc Mereel on Feb 19, 2019, 02:44 AM
I would fill in some or all of the panel lines that are just ahead of your trigger area and also the round bits above the grip where the hammer was, personally. Those to me would both cut down on the cyberpunk/nerf vibe, and help clean up the over all look without a ton of effort on your end.

That said, I really like where it's at either way. Over all, I think you've done a good job at making it look less "nerf" at first glance, especially by narrowing the entire body of the gun so much. I'd kind of like to see that three quarters angle on the "updated" version just so we can see just how much you chopped off!

I agree on the bowcaster being a great base to use as a handgun, and think really the biggest thing to do is put a bigger grip on it, and maybe add a power pack somewhere or something like that.

Keep up the great work!
Title: Re: Weapons WIP for Ratiin... Pic heavy
Post by: Cowboy_KenFL on Feb 20, 2019, 02:10 PM
Hellwolve- I can see the Cyperpunk, not sure on the fiddly part. Thanks for yer thoughts.

Lusjo- Thanks. Good point.

Novoc- Thanks. Hmmm... wouldn't that make it rather "slab sided"? I removed a good bit (to much in a couple places). The revolver was actually a plan change. Which I think was for the better. I've tossed in a shot of the original nose piece, with a ruler. She's now 2" at her widest.

(https://i.imgur.com/npxxDrq.jpg)

I decided to show progress pics on my Bowcaster, turned slug thrower. I did the heat shield myself. That was a pain! I presently don't have access to a drill press. So used my dremel, my lap and a ruler. What y'all think?

(https://i.imgur.com/9iehKvb.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/vRxPBV6.jpg)
Title: Re: Weapons WIP for Ratiin... Pic heavy
Post by: Hellwolve on Feb 20, 2019, 05:47 PM
Hellwolve- I can see the Cyperpunk, not sure on the fiddly part. Thanks for yer thoughts.
You're welcome :)

And I quite like where you're going with the 'ex bowcaster'!
Title: Re: Weapons WIP for Ratiin... Pic heavy
Post by: Jag Cabur on Feb 21, 2019, 02:01 AM
That magazine clip still needs work.  It still screams "NERF!"
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Post by: Anansi on Feb 21, 2019, 10:51 PM
The amount of patience it took to drill all of those holes is nothing short of awe inspiring. Agree on the mag. Just cover/fill the triangles and you'll be in good shape.
Title: Re: Weapons WIP for Ratiin... Pic heavy
Post by: Cowboy_KenFL on Feb 22, 2019, 01:37 PM
Jag- I know,  read reading from that heat shield. Blah! LOL

Anansi- Thanks, patients tends to be one of virtues. Drivers the drive crazy. I was wondering what extent I needed to change it.
Of course I still need to give it some proper color. My Mando tends to have some mottos; one being... "Take care of yer tools. They'll take care of you. " As weapons are some of my tools... they won't be very weathered.
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Post by: LusjoOrdo on Feb 22, 2019, 07:05 PM
Maybe it still being orange is throwing people off with the mag. I donít think it looks overly nerf in design. Maybe the unnecessary amount of textures and design on the mag? If painting it black or metal color doesnít take away the nerf look then Iíd say smooth some of it out. Like the bottom portion. Just my opinion.
Title: Re: Weapons WIP for Ratiin... Pic heavy
Post by: Cowboy_KenFL on Feb 25, 2019, 11:00 AM
Lusjo- Very true. There have been studies showing color will greatly effect a person's whole attitude towards an object. I'm gonna fill in the triangles and spray some primer gray on it. See what thoughts are then.

Jag- I hate phones predictive text. They never get it right for me. Doing the heat shield was exhausting. I don't have a drill press, or such. So, it was, my lap, a dremel and time.
Title: Re: Weapons WIP for Ratiin... Pic heavy
Post by: LusjoOrdo on Feb 25, 2019, 02:25 PM
If you donít mind me asking, what are the circle greeblies that you used?
Title: Re: Weapons WIP for Ratiin... Pic heavy
Post by: Cowboy_KenFL on Feb 25, 2019, 09:14 PM
Lusjo- No worries! Always happy to share info. It makes a stronger, closer group.
Those are original parts of the blaster. I haven't touched them, yet. Thinking about grinding them off and placing actual "dials" on.
Title: Re: Weapons WIP for Ratiin... Pic heavy
Post by: LusjoOrdo on Feb 25, 2019, 09:18 PM
Thanks Vod. And really? Thatís funny. I actually like them.
Title: Re: Weapons WIP for Ratiin... Pic heavy
Post by: Cowboy_KenFL on Mar 05, 2019, 05:08 PM
Lusjo- I liked them, too. Just think "real" la would get it up some.

Speaking of... removed the triangles and sprayed some primer on my bowcaster mashup.

(https://i.imgur.com/Sbh2Vxy.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/iSNn54f.jpg)

Thoughts y'all??
Title: Re: Weapons WIP for Ratiin... Pic heavy
Post by: LusjoOrdo on Mar 05, 2019, 06:30 PM
Looks great. Definitely in the realm of a heavy blaster. Add a foregrip and you got yourself a mini carbine or sub. I dig it. Side mag makes a holster a tough though if you were planning one. Got a backstory on this bad boy yet? In universe I mean.
Title: Re: Weapons WIP for Ratiin... Pic heavy
Post by: Cowboy_KenFL on Mar 05, 2019, 10:57 PM
Lusjo- Thanks. Not sure about a forward grip. I'm setting it up with a hard case thigh holster.

Back story... Well, my Mando is the grandchild of a Correlian ship designer and a Mando weapons designer on Father's side.  Mom's side were a Mando clan leader on Chiva and a close combat trainer. His parents followed the family business. To which his step aunt had a hostile takeover of the Ship building firm. She had false evidence that my Mando killed family members. So, he fled into exile. Taking his blood borne talents for ships, weapons, and battle. Much of his stuff are built from shelved plans or their prototypes.

Yes, I've had a lot of thought on this.
Title: Re: Weapons WIP for Ratiin... Pic heavy
Post by: LusjoOrdo on Mar 06, 2019, 12:32 AM
Sounds very interesting. Will you be proficient on close combat as well? I smell brigade material lol.
Title: Re: Weapons WIP for Ratiin... Pic heavy
Post by: Novoc Mereel on Mar 06, 2019, 01:48 AM
The heat sink barrel came out really nicely!!!!
Title: Re: Weapons WIP for Ratiin... Pic heavy
Post by: Cowboy_KenFL on Mar 06, 2019, 08:13 AM
Lusjo-  Maybe.  I don't want the deck stacked in his favor,  to much. LOL

Novoc- Thanks Vod. Gonna paint it "metal" with a heat burn.
Title: Re: Weapons WIP for Ratiin... Pic heavy
Post by: Jag Cabur on Mar 06, 2019, 10:07 AM
It looks awesome, but my first thought on seeing that magazine was still "Nerf." Maybe add some strips of styrex (or... whatever we call that plasticy stuff a lot of us use.  I'm drawing a blank for some reason...) to mask it?
Title: Re: Weapons WIP for Ratiin... Pic heavy
Post by: Straka Zulu on Mar 18, 2019, 09:50 AM
Sintra is the brand name, expanded PVC foam board is the generic.  :laugh:

But, yeah, that mag still looks Nerf. The rest of the blaster looks awesome, though!
Title: Re: Weapons WIP for Ratiin... Pic heavy
Post by: PugAndShep on Mar 19, 2019, 07:37 AM
None of the pic are showing up for me.
Title: Re: Weapons WIP for Ratiin... Pic heavy
Post by: Cowboy_KenFL on Mar 21, 2019, 10:36 PM
Straka- Thanks.  I'm working on the ammo cartridge.

Pug- not sure why, could be a software thing. Something might need updated or a firewall block removed.

Is the clip any less "nerfy"? Yes, will be filling in the screw holes.
(https://i.imgur.com/kpuWph5.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/Pg0elwp.jpg)
Title: Re: Weapons WIP for Ratiin... Pic heavy
Post by: Cowboy_KenFL on Mar 31, 2020, 03:54 PM
It's alive... Almost...

(https://i.imgur.com/cykn8nM.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/h2jnrc9.jpg)
Title: Re: Weapons WIP for Ratiin... Pic heavy
Post by: Cowboy_KenFL on Apr 21, 2020, 09:11 PM
While watching my daughter at home. The more fumes and chemical things done outside, needed to be curtailed. So. I used the time to come up with a Holdout blaster...
I went with a Westar 35C (for compact)...

The idea...
(https://i.imgur.com/r39tPyq.jpg)

Some progress on the block of Sintra...

(https://i.imgur.com/q3DNjfr.jpg)


Where I'm at now...

(https://i.imgur.com/rr6g5VM.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/X6rjCOR.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/1Zrc05u.jpg)

I've been doing more smoothing, sanding, snd shaping on my heavy blaster, too...

(https://i.imgur.com/tpRdiD2.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/dpcNzVl.jpg)

What y'all think?
Title: Re: Weapons WIP for Ratiin... Pic heavy
Post by: Anansi on Apr 21, 2020, 09:17 PM
Loving that Westar concept. So many Westar 35 variants!
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Post by: Cowboy_KenFL on Apr 22, 2020, 07:46 PM
Anansi- Thanks.

I think that it's the way it's designed, originally. Very simple and flat, then allowing modification almost too ones own whim.
Title: Re: Weapons WIP for Ratiin... Pic heavy
Post by: Avior Braisa on Apr 22, 2020, 10:08 PM
That holdout blaster is sweet Ken! Very impressive. :<3:
Title: Re: Weapons WIP for Ratiin... Pic heavy
Post by: Cowboy_KenFL on May 09, 2020, 11:02 PM
Printed out pictures of my heavy blaster, then drew some possible color markings on it.

Comments?

(https://i.imgur.com/NY1rUDe.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/iwgKt9t.jpg)