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Mandalorian Armor => Armor Construction => Topic started by: Tramp Graphics on Apr 20, 2021, 06:47 PM

Title: Trampís Mando Kit WIP
Post by: Tramp Graphics on Apr 20, 2021, 06:47 PM
Ok, Iím slowly getting the pieces together to upgrade my kit to MMC standards.

Here is the basic concept, so far, for my kit:

(https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/b67a31be-db7b-4660-befc-0c4581e5667f/deay5xd-968f1a97-6179-4a27-af11-5160aa7fa68f.jpg/v1/fill/w_1238,h_645,q_70,strp/mando_costume_concept_b_by_tramp_graphics_deay5xd-pre.jpg?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOiIsImlzcyI6InVybjphcHA6Iiwib2JqIjpbW3siaGVpZ2h0IjoiPD03MTMiLCJwYXRoIjoiXC9mXC9iNjdhMzFiZS1kYjdiLTQ2NjAtYmVmYy0wYzQ1ODFlNTY2N2ZcL2RlYXk1eGQtOTY4ZjFhOTctNjE3OS00YTI3LWFmMTEtNTE2MGFhN2ZhNjhmLmpwZyIsIndpZHRoIjoiPD0xMzY4In1dXSwiYXVkIjpbInVybjpzZXJ2aWNlOmltYWdlLm9wZXJhdGlvbnMiXX0.YNtYML5gV0gB7HPCEkPUD99Et9Si7rOHeON5c7b401k)
 So far, I have my helmet from STEINCustomDesigns, which I just stripped down for a total repaint (with primer this time), flight suit (black BDUs with the jacket collar modified with a flap and Velcro added to form a neck seal), Valken full finger Airsoft gloves (needs mods to hide logo molded into plate on back of hand) , tactical ammo/utility belt, and Boba Fett style bracers from DHPFX. My next piece of soft goods just came in: a pair of black Ridetech motorcycle boots:

(https://i5.walmartimages.com/asr/ba058a8c-d4de-42b1-b738-b1616b97448f_1.107c3d5ca2793330f337d8936e67b555.jpeg?odnWidth=768&odnHeight=768&odnBg=ffffff)

The current plan is for these to be the only leather in my kit, as Iím going for a very ďtacticalĒ look for my kit, particularly in the soft goods. As such, my utility and gun belts will both be nylon web belts.

As it stands, this is my current kit:
(https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/b67a31be-db7b-4660-befc-0c4581e5667f/deaj1j9-902a5bb8-6c19-4f4e-b508-53ec26255d88.jpg/v1/fill/w_774,h_1032,q_70,strp/2020_halloween_beskar_gam_by_tramp_graphics_deaj1j9-pre.jpg?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOiIsImlzcyI6InVybjphcHA6Iiwib2JqIjpbW3siaGVpZ2h0IjoiPD0yNTYwIiwicGF0aCI6IlwvZlwvYjY3YTMxYmUtZGI3Yi00NjYwLWJlZmMtMGM0NTgxZTU2NjdmXC9kZWFqMWo5LTkwMmE1YmI4LTZjMTktNGY0ZS1iNTA4LTUzZWMyNjI1NWQ4OC5qcGciLCJ3aWR0aCI6Ijw9MTkyMCJ9XV0sImF1ZCI6WyJ1cm46c2VydmljZTppbWFnZS5vcGVyYXRpb25zIl19.vjDN5_vPy25JneWS3xNCXQKQnsSBEPhAzSmZ9jYlh7Y)

Iím going to replace the torso plates with ABS plates Iím going to order from DFPFX, along with his back plate, then mod them to fit and taste. The only part of his torso plate set I donít plan on using are the shoulder plates, as I want simple, shoulder bells like Sabine Wrenís, and my current kitís, not Fett style plates. If I can reshape the DHPFX ones, I will, otherwise, Iíll need help finding some.

These will then be assembled into a full cuirass bound together with nylon straps, rather than attaching directly to the vest. The collar plate will also be fused to the back plate to form a single piece that slips in over my head like my current kit: 

(https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/b67a31be-db7b-4660-befc-0c4581e5667f/deaj2ce-b5b6ad28-02b7-4373-9989-1e3fd5ad8c13.jpg/v1/fill/w_1280,h_1707,q_75,strp/beskar_cuirass_part_1_by_tramp_graphics_deaj2ce-fullview.jpg?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOiIsImlzcyI6InVybjphcHA6Iiwib2JqIjpbW3siaGVpZ2h0IjoiPD0xNzA3IiwicGF0aCI6IlwvZlwvYjY3YTMxYmUtZGI3Yi00NjYwLWJlZmMtMGM0NTgxZTU2NjdmXC9kZWFqMmNlLWI1YjZhZDI4LTAyYjctNDM3My05OTg5LTFlM2ZkNWFkOGMxMy5qcGciLCJ3aWR0aCI6Ijw9MTI4MCJ9XV0sImF1ZCI6WyJ1cm46c2VydmljZTppbWFnZS5vcGVyYXRpb25zIl19.yZbCxgvDyPI1wAABTvI4ShxAxADUkbf_Jci_L01E5Q0)

(https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/b67a31be-db7b-4660-befc-0c4581e5667f/deaj2ic-66ba4c21-969c-4b2d-bc86-f2b765bf1ee2.jpg/v1/fill/w_774,h_1032,q_70,strp/beskar_cuirass_pt_2_by_tramp_graphics_deaj2ic-pre.jpg?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOiIsImlzcyI6InVybjphcHA6Iiwib2JqIjpbW3siaGVpZ2h0IjoiPD0xNzA3IiwicGF0aCI6IlwvZlwvYjY3YTMxYmUtZGI3Yi00NjYwLWJlZmMtMGM0NTgxZTU2NjdmXC9kZWFqMmljLTY2YmE0YzIxLTk2OWMtNGIyZC1iYzg2LWYyYjc2NWJmMWVlMi5qcGciLCJ3aWR0aCI6Ijw9MTI4MCJ9XV0sImF1ZCI6WyJ1cm46c2VydmljZTppbWFnZS5vcGVyYXRpb25zIl19.UKyHIsFNcYG_hlKWdAO9GBSN3a4fYIj9J0TiA_UMfFk)

One thing not in the concept art that Iím likely going to add is a Kama in order to cover my back pockets and hip pockets.

These are images of the other parts I currently have:

(https://cdn3.volusion.com/pgnrb.yxsdo/v/vspfiles/photos/VLKNGLALPHAFLFING-BLK-2.jpg?v-cache=1560500963)

(https://i.etsystatic.com/24218020/r/il/9e3c8e/2418502226/il_794xN.2418502226_48g8.jpg)

(https://www.harrysarmysurplus.net/assets/images/rothco/4240.jpg)

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0106/5435/1460/products/9f190e42-14d8-4528-a148-3998d47a3a13_14575b2e-a0cd-49f2-893e-09a0e11c2adb_1024x1024.jpg?v=1593195155)

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51OERPQBGbL._AC_UY445_.jpg)

(https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5c8160dd77b90376f25cedc1/1556852730404-1TV41DDQ7XM4U6M2I3HP/ke17ZwdGBToddI8pDm48kALrBFsXjPwJkST4_n0jKfxZw-zPPgdn4jUwVcJE1ZvWQUxwkmyExglNqGp0IvTJZamWLI2zvYWH8K3-s_4yszcp2ryTI0HqTOaaUohrI8PIKS4CTOv5TpOgL2hfjKDrltSOPxl0xsXL1hhodpNYvJYKMshLAGzx4R3EDFOm1kBS/il_794xN.1004794500_1vru.jpg?format=1500w)

And these are my next planned purchases:

(https://i.etsystatic.com/8846989/r/il/bcb43f/1262995780/il_794xN.1262995780_7qxj.jpg)

(https://i.etsystatic.com/8846989/r/il/a115aa/2360856942/il_794xN.2360856942_c2s4.jpg)

(https://i.etsystatic.com/8846989/r/il/2e7845/953135492/il_794xN.953135492_t14o.jpg)

And this is the vest I want:

(https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/b67a31be-db7b-4660-befc-0c4581e5667f/dei5eai-1ac62c52-bec2-49e2-85db-a74c54206ea9.jpg/v1/fill/w_1264,h_632,q_70,strp/vest_by_tramp_graphics_dei5eai-pre.jpg?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOiIsImlzcyI6InVybjphcHA6Iiwib2JqIjpbW3sicGF0aCI6IlwvZlwvYjY3YTMxYmUtZGI3Yi00NjYwLWJlZmMtMGM0NTgxZTU2NjdmXC9kZWk1ZWFpLTFhYzYyYzUyLWJlYzItNDllMi04NWRiLWE3NGM1NDIwNmVhOS5qcGciLCJoZWlnaHQiOiI8PTY0MCIsIndpZHRoIjoiPD0xMjgwIn1dXSwiYXVkIjpbInVybjpzZXJ2aWNlOmltYWdlLndhdGVybWFyayJdLCJ3bWsiOnsicGF0aCI6Ilwvd21cL2I2N2EzMWJlLWRiN2ItNDY2MC1iZWZjLTBjNDU4MWU1NjY3ZlwvdHJhbXAtZ3JhcGhpY3MtNC5wbmciLCJvcGFjaXR5Ijo5NSwicHJvcG9ydGlvbnMiOjAuNDUsImdyYXZpdHkiOiJjZW50ZXIifX0.4As8Q6jVq0PBKZqGmydo0IYtewzE6_uRwuT_EgW4y6g)

Anyone know who could make that at a good price? Iíve checked the vendors here and the few that make vests all make standard ďFettĒ style vests with back (or some side) closures, whereas this is a front closure design.
Title: Re: Trampís Mando Kit WIP
Post by: Odran Krayt on Apr 21, 2021, 03:24 AM
The big thing I noted was that your current plates seem a bit long and wide on you. But the new ones should help with that, just remember that the ab should end right about your navel.

On your vest, I'm not sure it's approvable to do a front closure, as it could be seen between the plates. Probably a good idea to ask the app team in the q&a section before going on with getting it made.
Title: Re: Trampís Mando Kit WIP
Post by: Tramp Graphics on Apr 21, 2021, 10:19 AM
The big thing I noted was that your current plates seem a bit long and wide on you. But the new ones should help with that, just remember that the ab should end right about your navel.

On your vest, I'm not sure it's approvable to do a front closure, as it could be seen between the plates. Probably a good idea to ask the app team in the q&a section before going on with getting it made.

My current plates are deceiving. I have a long torso. My current plates do, in fact, end above my navel. In fact, my utility belt was at my navel.

It should also be noted that those plates were originally fitted to be worn over a heavy leather duster, and, in that picture, Iím wearing them over just a a set of BDUs with a sweatshirt and sweat pants under them for warmth.

As for vests with a front closure, Iíve seen a few that have been approved, so thatís not an issue, and, with how my plates will be attached together, the strapping between the collar, pectoral, and abdominal plates should hide it just fine.

My only other option for vests would be this, but itís about $130, and Iím not sure I really want to pay that much. It doesnít have the stand-up collar either.

(https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-sfoxy4qm75/images/stencil/1280x1280/products/2018/18415/speed-and-strength-true-grit-armored-vest-black__75787.1585034919.jpg)

(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/416kcIM5lWL._AC_SY355_.jpg)

All the other Tactical style vests Iíve looked at have way too many pouches built in or are too long.
Title: Re: Trampís Mando Kit WIP
Post by: Tramp Graphics on Apr 22, 2021, 11:33 AM
Well, I just ordered my new chest and back plates from DPHFX. They should ship in a few weeks.
Title: Re: Trampís Mando Kit WIP
Post by: Odran Krayt on Apr 22, 2021, 12:42 PM
The big issue with the front closure is, going by your pic, it looks like you would have the zipper/ whatever you use to secure it visible, and the app team will immediately kick it back if there are exposed zippers. But if there is a velcroed flap over the zipper line, it would be more likely to pass. The team goes over the app pics with a fine toothed comb, so if there is a zipper at all visible (or exposed elastic, unpainted rivets, etc) they will see it.
Title: Re: Trampís Mando Kit WIP
Post by: Tramp Graphics on Apr 22, 2021, 02:12 PM
The big issue with the front closure is, going by your pic, it looks like you would have the zipper/ whatever you use to secure it visible, and the app team will immediately kick it back if there are exposed zippers. But if there is a velcroed flap over the zipper line, it would be more likely to pass. The team goes over the app pics with a fine toothed comb, so if there is a zipper at all visible (or exposed elastic, unpainted rivets, etc) they will see it.

The zipper wonít be a problem, given how my plates will be assembled. The only part that might still show would be at the very bottom, and that could be covered by a buckle secured between some nylon strapping.

The main question is whether to go with the ďFuture CopĒ design from the 3D model and hope someone will make it for me at an affordable price, or go with the $130 tactical motorcycle vest, and which would be more affordable.

One of the biggest reasons for a front closing vest, aside from the ease of getting into and out of it is that I can wear it without the armor attached and still look ďsci fiĒ/ Star Wars.
Title: Re: Trampís Mando Kit WIP
Post by: Tramp Graphics on Apr 26, 2021, 02:03 PM
After much consideration, I think Iím going to go with the ďTrue GritĒ vest for a couple of reasons, not the least of which, it comes with a removable holster that can be set up for either hand, and can fit almost any type of hand gun, so it should fit a Westar 34 or 35. Secondly, the price dropped to $117. :8):
Title: Re: Trampís Mando Kit WIP
Post by: Tramp Graphics on Apr 27, 2021, 08:32 PM
No new pics yet, trying to get them from my phone to my computer to take them into Photoshop to combine them. That being said, the weather was finally warm enough to prime my helmet for its repaint. I went with Krylon black primer and will let it cure a day or so befor applying the paint. Iím using Mission Models gloss black acrylic paint as a base and will follow that with Mission Models chrome. Once thatís dry, Iíll start on the blue clear coat in order to get that dyed metal look I want.
Title: Re: Trampís Mando Kit WIP
Post by: Tramp Graphics on Apr 29, 2021, 01:39 AM
Ordered the True Grit vest this afternoon and itís already in transit from the store. I ordered it from Eagle Leather out of Tacoma, WA, and itís scheduled to arrive on Star Wars Day.  This does not mean Iíve given up on having the Future Cop vest made, but this way I can get my armor properly sized and shaped when it comes in. It also means that I donít have to make a holster.

Speaking of which, I am ordering a Westar 35 Deathwatch Live Action from Deckplate Designs, and have requested an invoice so I can pay him. Out of the three versions of the Westar 35, that ounce looked the best to me. It should fit the holster, if the latter is as versatile as advertised. Itís supposed to hold virtually any size or shape pistol up to a 44 magnum.

I canít wait.  :8):
Title: Re: Trampís Mando Kit WIP
Post by: Tramp Graphics on Apr 30, 2021, 01:33 AM
My vest is on its way and is supposed to arrive Tuesday, 4 MAY, Star Wars Day. :D I have also ordered my Westar 35 Deathwatch Live Action, and itís getting printed as we speak. I canít wait until it arrives.
Title: Re: Trampís Mando Kit WIP
Post by: Tramp Graphics on May 05, 2021, 03:01 AM
My vest arrived on time and fits great. I tried it on over my BDU shirt and with my utility belt as well, and even under my existing armor, and it works better than I expected. Obviously, it will require some alterations to hide the zipper and remove the tags (for if/when I choose to wear it without the cuirass), but overall, I think it will work.

The only issue I found is that the holster is not as ďreversibleĒ as the staff at Eagle Leather said it was. Yes, technically, you can wear it for left-handed use, but it leaves the strap loops on the side facing away from the thigh or waist, instead of right up against it where any straps would be able to slide right through and around.
Title: Re: Trampís Mando Kit WIP
Post by: Tramp Graphics on May 06, 2021, 11:56 AM
Hereís some pics of the new vest:

(https://i.imgur.com/YcBbV6n.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/GFXoORE.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/SVHMp6y.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/aQo4hvt.jpg)

I know there are mods that will need to be done to meet approval standards. Already planning that.

Here are those promised helmet pics:

(https://i.imgur.com/fXs2BKt.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/kHXnnDd.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/1WGLKCO.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/HQdXmRD.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/gghHouC.jpg)

Now, for some more good news. My torso armor just came in yesterday. I havenít really done any major test fitting, yet, with the plates taped together, but I did try the collar and back plates just holding them, and the collar may, or may not, be a little wide. Iím not sure. I need to get some proper pics taken with them put together later today, expect some new pics within the next few days.
Title: Re: Trampís Mando Kit WIP
Post by: Fenn Beviin on May 06, 2021, 03:25 PM
Good a lot of progress going!

Are you going to be able to attach plates to that vest with the built in padding without them floating off of your body?
Title: Re: Trampís Mando Kit WIP
Post by: Tramp Graphics on May 06, 2021, 03:59 PM
Good a lot of progress going!

Are you going to be able to attach plates to that vest with the built in padding without them floating off of your body?

The armor isnít going to be mounted directly to the vest at all. It will all be worn over the vest.

As I did with my previous prototypes, the collar will be fused to the back plate (Iíll need to extend the shoulders of the back plate forward to do that) and all of the other plates will be attached to each other via nylon webbing to form a full cuirass that will slip on over my head and fit over the vest, secured at the sides with straps and buckles. Itís going to be completely separate from my vest. That way it will be easier to remove and I can wear the vest without the armor as well.
Title: Re: Trampís Mando Kit WIP
Post by: Odran Krayt on May 06, 2021, 06:29 PM
I think the point of the question was that the padding may lift the plates off your chest, resulting in "floating" plates, which, if it were to happen, would mean either ripping out the pads or tightening the chestplates so tightly it would get hard to breathe.

But as long as the plates are shaped with the padding in mind, it shouldn't be an issue, as the pads look fairly thin
Title: Re: Trampís Mando Kit WIP
Post by: Tramp Graphics on May 06, 2021, 07:20 PM
I think the point of the question was that the padding may lift the plates off your chest, resulting in "floating" plates, which, if it were to happen, would mean either ripping out the pads or tightening the chestplates so tightly it would get hard to breathe.

But as long as the plates are shaped with the padding in mind, it shouldn't be an issue, as the pads look fairly thin

No, that wonít be an issue. The pads arenít that thick, only about 3/8Ē and my plates are vacuum formed ABS,  not Syntra.

Hereís a test fit of my armor. None of the plates have been reshaped yet, and some will need some, particularly the sides of the ab plate and fangs of the pectoral plates. The blue tape holding the plates together is layer out pretty much how I plan to lay out the final nylon straps that will secure them permanently together (minus the side straps).

(https://i.imgur.com/uBq1p3A.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/M49qMlb.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/RYHPSlg.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/5eoLao5.jpg)
Title: Re: Trampís Mando Kit WIP
Post by: Fenn Beviin on May 06, 2021, 10:38 PM
Ooooh wow! Yeah, those plates really hide the padding. That's great.

Like you mentioned just need to heat up the tabs on the chest plates and the sides of the abs and should be good  :like:

Helps you went with Vac formed plates to the padding fits in the gap essentially
Title: Re: Trampís Mando Kit WIP
Post by: Tramp Graphics on May 06, 2021, 10:50 PM
Ooooh wow! Yeah, those plates really hide the padding. That's great.

Like you mentioned just need to heat up the tabs on the chest plates and the sides of the abs and should be good  :like:

Helps you went with Vac formed plates to the padding fits in the gap essentially

Question:  Does the collar look too wide from shoulder to shoulder?
Title: Re: Trampís Mando Kit WIP
Post by: Notre Thiomersal on May 07, 2021, 02:49 AM
Hey there, thanks for reaching out for critique! Youíve made some great progress with your build and itís all coming together nicely.
Notes:
1) Something to watch for are baggy sleeves.  They can sometimes appear baggier than they actually are when kitting up, if they arenít fully tucked in/under your gauntlets.
2) Backplate looks solid and not seeing any gaps/floating.

3) Front plates looking good and just need a little heat gun TLC to get them to hug closer to your body.

4) The zipper shouldnít be an issue as you mentioned, as long as itís completely covered in the end. I went the same flak vest route with my kit. I added a thin strip of matching/similar fabric to my flak vest to fully cover the front zipper.

5) Collar plate May need to be trimmed down to align flush with the chest plates.

6) When making the final pass at attaching all the plates to one another remember to keep the spaces uniform with about half inch between the plates.

7) if you wanna add that extra bit of detail, throw on an additional short sleeve over the long sleeve and under the vest. I used a hemmed Dickieís button down for this.

8) Lastly that buckets looking great and keep up the good work!
Title: Re: Trampís Mando Kit WIP
Post by: Tramp Graphics on May 08, 2021, 01:42 AM
Hey there, thanks for reaching out for critique! Youíve made some great progress with your build and itís all coming together nicely.
Notes:
1) Something to watch for are baggy sleeves.  They can sometimes appear baggier than they actually are when kitting up, if they arenít fully tucked in/under your gauntlets.
2) Backplate looks solid and not seeing any gaps/floating.

3) Front plates looking good and just need a little heat gun TLC to get them to hug closer to your body.

4) The zipper shouldnít be an issue as you mentioned, as long as itís completely covered in the end. I went the same flak vest route with my kit. I added a thin strip of matching/similar fabric to my flak vest to fully cover the front zipper.

5) Collar plate May need to be trimmed down to align flush with the chest plates.

6) When making the final pass at attaching all the plates to one another remember to keep the spaces uniform with about half inch between the plates.

7) if you wanna add that extra bit of detail, throw on an additional short sleeve over the long sleeve and under the vest. I used a hemmed Dickieís button down for this.

8) Lastly that buckets looking great and keep up the good work!

Letís hope that trimming the collar is not necessary, As I mentioned, this is vacuum formed ABS, and the edges for the plates all have a bead around them to give them more depth, as seen in this pic here:

(https://i.imgur.com/b3DR83k.jpg)

The only way to ďtrimĒ the collar without complete cutting off the bead would be to cut it in half and trim off fractions of an inch from each half and glue them back together.  An easier solution would probably be to simply realign the pectoral plates. Looking at the photo, the spacing between them is a little close compared to this photo:

(https://i.etsystatic.com/8846989/r/il/a115aa/2360856942/il_794xN.2360856942_c2s4.jpg)

As far as adding short sleeves over the long sleeves, not happening. I personally donít like that aesthetic, and it doesnít fit with my concept.

Now, on to better news. My blaster just arrived. I ordered a Westar 35 Death Watch Live Action from Deckplate Designs and it just arrived today. I love it. It needs some sanding and filing to clean it up, but itís sooooo pretty.

(https://i.imgur.com/J4Uee0E.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/buMNTPE.jpg)
Title: Re: Trampís Mando Kit WIP
Post by: Tramp Graphics on May 10, 2021, 11:25 PM
Found the perfect left-handed drop holster for my Westar-35. It fits the blaster like a glove, very snuggly, and secures perfectly to my left thigh. Itís almost as if it were made for this blaster. I got it at a local Army Navy store and was found purely by chance. The salesman didnít even think he had anymore left-handed drop holsters. He just happened to pick it up off the wall at random.

Hereís some pics:

(https://i.imgur.com/Bzic9aV.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/C7iTzBH.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/OXABHox.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/AdY4omM.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/GkoMg8K.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/k8frHTH.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/qM5fyDT.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/ZbDzqXY.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/nXRU5Fg.jpg)

I still have to make the rest of my gun belt, but now I actually can. I definitely donít want to make any significant mods to the holster if I donít have to. About my only minor concern is if repeated drawing of the blaster will cause any paint I apply to wear off.

Let me know what you guys think.
Title: Re: Trampís Mando Kit WIP
Post by: Tramp Graphics on May 15, 2021, 05:20 PM
Iíve got some more work done on my kit. I finished sanding my blaster, and reshaped my pectoral and ab plates. My original plan for the straps, namely running a single main strap down the center wonít work because of the bead around each plate. As such, Iím going back to the strap layout I used for my EVA prototype.

(https://i.imgur.com/loTBBVF.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/b6fy5FE.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/HHUvKQO.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/7FcgHTi.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/cE9rqfb.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/Q6CASid.jpg)

The lighting in some of the photos make my pants look a different color than the shirt, this is a trick of the light. They are both black cotton Ripstop. Any remaining ďfloatĒ in the pectoral tabs and the ab plates will be fixed by the straps once secured to the plates . And, before anyone asks, yes, that is an errant piece of crumpled tape stuck to my back plate.
Title: Re: Trampís Mando Kit WIP
Post by: Cattriss Wren on Jun 18, 2021, 03:46 PM
Su'cuy Tramp, not sure if you remember me but we were talking about your vest over at my armor wip.So I started looking and found yours. Love the westars they are similar to the ones I am going to using. The helmets great :like: keep up the good work!! ;D
Title: Re: Trampís Mando Kit WIP
Post by: Tramp Graphics on Jun 18, 2021, 04:22 PM
Thanks. I only have one Westar though. I need to take some more recent WIP pics with the new pieces I have now. I just got my Kama and knees in, and made some epaulettes to attach my collar and back plates, though I havenít decided on how Iím going to attach them yet.
Title: Re: Trampís Mando Kit WIP
Post by: Cattriss Wren on Jun 18, 2021, 05:08 PM
Sweet :D definitely are excited to see them :sabine:
Title: Re: Trampís Mando Kit WIP
Post by: Tramp Graphics on Jun 18, 2021, 07:30 PM
OK 👌 I took some WIP pics of my soft goods, blaster, knees and epaulettes. The epaulettes are not attached, just held in place by my hands in the photos. Theyíre made from the wide part of a 4Ē ABS pipe attachment.

As for the knee plates, Iím planning on potentially epoxying them to the industrial knee pads I wore for Halloween, if allowable.

(https://i.imgur.com/rmImpx3.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/gsVMGTy.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/awAESx4.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/zMVZMm8.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/iySbnFQ.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/i0JijUV.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/13iHil0.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/quSVJ8E.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/G1ayPcF.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/Bai0E8b.jpg)

Let me know what you think so far, comments and critiques welcome.
Title: Re: Trampís Mando Kit WIP
Post by: Cattriss Wren on Jun 20, 2021, 07:09 AM
Wow, it is looking very nice!! Knee armor and kama look great!! :like: the those westars!!  Did you 3d print them your self or buy them?
Title: Re: Trampís Mando Kit WIP
Post by: Tramp Graphics on Jun 20, 2021, 09:22 AM
Wow, it is looking very nice!! Knee armor and kama look great!! :like: the those westars!!  Did you 3d print them your self or buy them?

Nope. The Westar is from Deckplate Designs, over in the Continuous Sales forum: http://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/index.php?topic=196855.0. Itís his Live Action Death Watch design.
Title: Re: Trampís Mando Kit WIP
Post by: Cattriss Wren on Jun 20, 2021, 01:59 PM
Cool !  ;)
Title: Re: Trampís Mando Kit WIP
Post by: Tramp Graphics on Jun 25, 2021, 11:52 AM
Ok, I have a conundrum. I recently ordered a new pair of gloves (mineóa pair of Valken Alphasóare beginning to wear out in the palm from wearing them all winter and spring riding to and from work). I had ordered a pair of Valken V-Tac gloves, but was sent another pair of Alphas instead. I turns out the V-Tacs were discontinued and replaced by the Alphas. While I love the overall look of the Alphas, there is one glaring issue with themó the molded in ďvalkenĒ embossed on the back of each hand just inside the outer most metacarpal ridge:

(https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-tvqia/images/stencil/1280x1280/products/923/12223/AlphaGlove-Full-Back-Black__02181.1624568664.jpg?c=2)

How would you all suggest removing that without significantly altering the look of the gloves, and without making them look ďbattle damagedĒ, since Iím going for a ďcleanĒ kit.

Right now, my options are:
 
Help!
Title: Re: Trampís Mando Kit WIP
Post by: Fenn Beviin on Jun 25, 2021, 12:33 PM
I think your best bet would be the warbla idea or to just permanently attach some sintra to that strap as an added armor piece.
Title: Re: Trampís Mando Kit WIP
Post by: Tramp Graphics on Jun 25, 2021, 12:42 PM
I think your best bet would be the warbla idea or to just permanently attach some sintra to that strap as an added armor piece.
itís not the strap. The strap is well hidden by my bracers. Itís the armor plate on the back of the hand itself thatís the issue. Look just to the inside of the pinky ridge of the hand plate. Thereís an embossed Valken logo molded directly into the plastic on both gloves that is raised about 1/16Ē. Thatís the one Iím having trouble with because I donít want to ruin the gloves or leave a ďscarĒ.
Title: Re: Trampís Mando Kit WIP
Post by: Rhue_Shofytt on Jun 25, 2021, 04:04 PM
You can still use worbla or sintra to make a small plate that fits over the logo, regardless of where it's located on the glove...
Title: Re: Trampís Mando Kit WIP
Post by: Vercopaanir on Jun 26, 2021, 05:37 PM
Thereís an embossed Valken logo molded directly into the plastic on both gloves that is raised about 1/16Ē. Thatís the one Iím having trouble with because I donít want to ruin the gloves or leave a ďscarĒ.

I think your worbla or Sintra strips would be the best plan.  Sanding will leave a scar.  A plate would completely change the look and I like them as is.  It would also be very hard to hide the letters with greeblies, not impossible just hard. 

But three narrow strips between the ridges would, I think, add to the look without changing the overall feel of them.  I would angle the tops of the two outer ones toward the middle one and make the middle one a point.  Just an Idea 
Title: Re: Trampís Mando Kit WIP
Post by: Tramp Graphics on Jul 03, 2021, 01:02 AM
After some trial and error, I came up with some prop thermal charges, which will be attached to my belt. I cast them out of UV resin, each made of two pieces, and with a magnet to attach them to my belt.

(https://i.imgur.com/TYrWs2G.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/X79YQPc.jpg)
Title: Re: Trampís Mando Kit WIP
Post by: Tramp Graphics on Jul 17, 2021, 11:48 AM
Completed the mods to my gloves (I ended up taking the Dremmel to them), and finished painting my thermal charges. I also made a slight modification to my belts, namely to the buckles to spruce them up a bit.

(https://i.imgur.com/QfJHEXS.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/nhBviDa.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/UfSgGZn.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/kay0UkG.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/SVbjRbf.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/ovnWLs9.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/2L3Z09R.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/E08loPO.jpg)

Title: Re: Trampís Mando Kit WIP
Post by: evening.echiveria on Jul 17, 2021, 07:29 PM
Looks great! Glad the gloves worked out
Title: Re: Trampís Mando Kit WIP
Post by: Kurshi BeJahaal on Jul 19, 2021, 12:25 AM
I thought I was following this build already.

Crap. I guess I wasn't!

It looks like the glove solution worked well Tramp! From the pictures it's hard to see any major damage. It looks like it turned out pretty clean!
Title: Re: Trampís Mando Kit WIP
Post by: Tramp Graphics on Jul 19, 2021, 12:57 AM
I thought I was following this build already.

Crap. I guess I wasn't!

It looks like the glove solution worked well Tramp! From the pictures it's hard to see any major damage. It looks like it turned out pretty clean!

Thankfully, nope, no major damage; nothing that doesnít look like the results of metalworking.  Any critique of the rest of the build WIP so far?
Title: Re: Trampís Mando Kit WIP
Post by: Tramp Graphics on Jul 22, 2021, 01:56 AM
I got some more work done on my cuirass. After doing some reshaping of the shoulders of my collar plate, back plate, and epaulettes, I fused the epaulettes first to the shoulder of the back plate with some Plastruct plastic welder (a liquid plastic welder model glue), then fused the collar plate.

(https://i.imgur.com/ViDh8aT.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/Fvshw5S.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/1MZrQLO.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/SkzhqQD.jpg)
Title: Re: Trampís Mando Kit WIP
Post by: Firefly42 on Jul 22, 2021, 10:55 AM
Your looking good so far. Couple big things that stick out that the app teams may gig you for is you wanna tailor your arms and legs a tad. But still wanna move. And any parachute buckle would need to be painted to look metal. I would also cover the logo on the wrist of your glove even if it is hidden. You are doing a great job!
Title: Re: Trampís Mando Kit WIP
Post by: Kurshi BeJahaal on Jul 28, 2021, 01:02 AM
Finally got a chance to look through this all again. You had asked about the collar being too wide. Man, I donít think it looks that bad. I think itís a bit wider than I would cut it for myself, but I think once everything is spaced, it should be just fine. The downfall of ABS is that it's a little more difficult to trim and shape somstimes. I've been eyeing his stuff on Etsy but haven't pulled the trigger. I'm 6'2" and 195 with a 44" chest. I didn't know if I should do large or small if I did order some.

That blaster looks really nice. You got a nice sidearm there!

You've added some plates to fill the gap between the chest and collar. I did the same thing. I don't know if they have a true, technical name, so I just call them gap plates.  :laugh: Not real original or anything, is it? Here's the best pictures I have of mine but it's with my old helmet and shortly after approval.

(https://i.imgur.com/tSIFRgK.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/6wyo1Fz.jpg)

You can see I attached my cape to the left one. (Are you going with a cape on your build?) But mine attaches with velcro since I take my backplate off.

I like the addition of the greeblies to the holster. The best way to ensure modern tactical gear gets approved is to do a plate over it (easier on pouches obviously) or greeblies. Nice find there!

I don't see many things to critique right offhand that hasn't been mentioned aside from removing seat pockets unless you're doing a full cape or a kama.

Looking forward to more updates!
Title: Re: Trampís Mando Kit WIP
Post by: Tramp Graphics on Jul 28, 2021, 01:36 AM
Finally got a chance to look through this all again. You had asked about the collar being too wide. Man, I donít think it looks that bad. I think itís a bit wider than I would cut it for myself, but I think once everything is spaced, it should be just fine. The downfall of ABS is that it's a little more difficult to trim and shape somstimes. I've been eyeing his stuff on Etsy but haven't pulled the trigger. I'm 6'2" and 195 with a 44" chest. I didn't know if I should do large or small if I did order some.

That blaster looks really nice. You got a nice sidearm there!

You've added some plates to fill the gap between the chest and collar. I did the same thing. I don't know if they have a true, technical name, so I just call them gap plates.  :laugh: Not real original or anything, is it? Here's the best pictures I have of mine but it's with my old helmet and shortly after approval.

(https://i.imgur.com/tSIFRgK.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/6wyo1Fz.jpg)

You can see I attached my cape to the left one. (Are you going with a cape on your build?) But mine attaches with velcro since I take my backplate off.

I like the addition of the greeblies to the holster. The best way to ensure modern tactical gear gets approved is to do a plate over it (easier on pouches obviously) or greeblies. Nice find there!

I don't see many things to critique right offhand that hasn't been mentioned aside from removing seat pockets unless you're doing a full cape or a kama.

Looking forward to more updates!

The plates connecting the back and collar are properly called epaulettes, and, no, as of this time, I donít plan on a cape or cloak. I do own a black wool square cloak from my time in the SCA. I use it with my Jedi kit, pleated up into a surcoat.

 As for my back pocket cover flaps (the pockets themselves are fully internal), theyíre staying right where they are. I am indeed wearing a Kama as part of my kit. I didnít find the greeblies, I cast them out of 5-minute epoxy using Evil Ted molds I bought at Michealís craft store. They attach via Velcro. I used the same molds to cast my thermal charges and the greeblies on my belt buckles, this time out of UV resin. I have an order of ABS sheets (a pack of 2 12Ēx24Ēx 1/16Ē black), they just shipped and should arrive around 2 Aug. Iím going to use them to make some added plates to my back in order to match my concept art, as well as to make my codpiece (I donít want a Boba Fett style codpiece). Until the plastic comes in, Iím at an Iím pass. My vest is at the tailorís hopefully getting front zipper cover flaps made and attached.

My plates are the medium plates. Iím long torsoed 5í6Ē and about 175-190 lbs, with a 42Ē chest.
Title: Re: Trampís Mando Kit WIP
Post by: Tramp Graphics on Aug 07, 2021, 02:44 AM
My ABS finally came in and I got to work on my codpiece. Hand shaping hot ABS without a vacuum former is not easy but it turned out better than I expected.

(https://i.imgur.com/Yo94YiR.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/eW2mpQY.jpg)
Title: Re: Trampís Mando Kit WIP
Post by: Fenn Beviin on Aug 09, 2021, 08:14 AM
Most impressive shaping that without a vac form.

My two cents: how does that currently look when worn - or at least on a mock up? It looks a little long for a traditional cod but you may be wearing it higher up on your abdomen that how the Fett's do.

Second: (this may already be planned) I believe you are going to need sand/bondo the bottom portion of that to smooth it out and hide the texture the plastic now has from forming it.

Chugging along though! Keep at it  :like:
Title: Re: Trampís Mando Kit WIP
Post by: Tramp Graphics on Aug 09, 2021, 11:23 AM
Most impressive shaping that without a vac form.

My two cents: how does that currently look when worn - or at least on a mock up? It looks a little long for a traditional cod but you may be wearing it higher up on your abdomen that how the Fett's do.

Second: (this may already be planned) I believe you are going to need sand/bondo the bottom portion of that to smooth it out and hide the texture the plastic now has from forming it.

Chugging along though! Keep at it  :like:

Sanding, yes. Bondo, no.  Most smoothing I do with ABS typically uses brushing plastic welder over the surface to smooth it out after sanding. After that, if necessary, Iíll apply some acrylic floor polish to polish it and fill in any small defects.

As for the length, I have a long torso. When I stand upright, the top of the codpiece rests three fingers below by navel.
Title: Re: Trampís Mando Kit WIP
Post by: Tramp Graphics on Aug 20, 2021, 09:06 PM
Got the mod to my back plate done. It wasnít easy, but it looks pretty sweet, if I do say so myself.

(https://i.imgur.com/m1pQ51I.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/cWy0DAW.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/EK6VnAD.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/GU5U0t2.jpg)

I would say the hardest part was blending in the weld at the top to blend the ABS strip into the rest of the back plate. Itís not perfect, but thereís only so much you can do with a Dremmel and some jewelerís files.
Title: Re: Trampís Mando Kit WIP
Post by: Tramp Graphics on Aug 25, 2021, 03:58 PM
Hereís the first full mock-up of my entire kit (sans helmet). Obviously, the plates are just taped together, but this should give you all an idea of where I want to go. I had to make a new codpiece. The first one broke. It was also too narrow at the ďfunctionalĒ end to provide the proper ďcoverageĒ, if you know what I mean. The new one fits much better and is cleaner too, only one small burn, and that cleaned up pretty well.

(https://i.imgur.com/HnAeOUR.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/FW7npMx.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/2puJmb2.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/iax2jPW.jpg)
Title: Re: Trampís Mando Kit WIP
Post by: Tramp Graphics on Sep 04, 2021, 03:51 AM
Started on painting my armor with the primer coat. So far so good. Iím using an Acrylic polyurethane surface primer for everything but the helmet. Itís applied using an airbrush, so no propellant fumes. Still needs to cure, which takes 12 hours, but Iím going to let it do so until my next day off since I really donít have time on days I work.

(https://i.imgur.com/kQbjl0h.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/RuIsSOM.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/I2R3SxQ.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/pUFddtS.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/L8x638Y.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/0NmtLrr.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/02EsWXi.jpg)

I also finished fabrication of my Kal Dagger.

(https://i.imgur.com/Pq4T5iU.jpg)
Title: Re: Trampís Mando Kit WIP
Post by: Tramp Graphics on Sep 08, 2021, 08:01 PM
More work done on the kit. I have the gloss base coat and chrome silver applied to all of the armor pieces, as well as my rocket and Kal Dagger. Iíve also applied the clear blue to the torso and back plates, as well as a gloss coat on top of that, since the particular blue I used was a flat clear, and I used it all up. I have some Tamiya Color clear blue for the rest of the armor. Itís gonna need some thinning to use in my airbrush however.

(https://i.imgur.com/iIj99Yk.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/db4VqL2.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/59I1vzn.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/FrNRgJE.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/4swIQTT.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/5YILInm.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/NVFrBT3.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/hXVzsIW.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/Qu3iXFN.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/GCUXXUD.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/iWZvbXk.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/EVmoV09.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/7c9h6It.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/hGuQyPl.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/B3EUsQa.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/fVWypNH.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/E6iJ8RH.jpg)

Let me know what you think.
Title: Re: Trampís Mando Kit WIP
Post by: evening.echiveria on Sep 09, 2021, 01:27 AM
Wow I love that blue color! Keep up the great work  :like:
Title: Re: Tramp’s Mando Kit WIP
Post by: Cattriss Wren on Sep 09, 2021, 08:28 AM
I agree with Aster, I love the blue! Are you doing black and blue or just blue? Either way it's very cool.
Title: Re: Trampís Mando Kit WIP
Post by: Tramp Graphics on Sep 09, 2021, 11:18 AM
I agree with Aster, I love the blue! Are you doing black and blue or just blue? Either way it's very cool.

Actually, the armor itself will be two-tone blue with gold details, all metallic. Black is just for the soft goods.

I finished painting the rest of the armor (except the helmet) with the base clear blue. I ran out of Tamiya Color clear blue halfway through the second coat on the left knee. Four 1/3oz jars just on the codpiece, shoulders, knees, and bracers. I need to get more to add a second coat over the other pieces, as well as for the helmet.

(https://i.imgur.com/EzkoNsM.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/glZ9Q0X.jpg)
Title: Re: Trampís Mando Kit WIP
Post by: Cattriss Wren on Sep 09, 2021, 11:32 AM
Actually, the armor itself will be two-tone blue with gold details, all metallic. Black is just for the soft goods.


Great choice of colors :like: