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Mandalorian Armor => Armor Construction => Topic started by: Second Son on Jun 25, 2021, 12:30 AM

Title: Build Log / WIP: ongoing, never really Finished...
Post by: Second Son on Jun 25, 2021, 12:30 AM
First post for my body armor WIP/ build log:  Shoulder Plates.

Iím going with a Modern kit, so I drew up some classic Fett shoulder plates & cut them out of .04Ē/1mm 5052.   
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/V2_Shoulder_Plates/IMG_0835.JPG)

First step was to roll an even curve and then put a little tighter radius in at the outside edges to close them in a bit. I may have also been working on an extra set of plates while I had the tools out.

(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/V2_Shoulder_Plates/IMG_0836.JPG)

I hammered in a subtle radius all around to give a bit of visual depth and make a ridge for light and weathering highlights to catch the eye.  I did that for the shoulder plates by hammering against a medium density wood block with the plates angled up slightly, basically using it as a sinking stump without the dish. A hard rubber mallet and slightly overlapping strikes kept the surface relatively free of hammer marks. It didnít end up really obvious so mixed results for the effort.

Once I was happy enough with the shaping I mounted a pair of self-clinching studs for attaching to the vest (I really should make one, Iíve been working on all the armor that can be done without the soft kit fully finished).

(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/V2_Shoulder_Plates/IMG_1042.JPG)

(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/V2_Shoulder_Plates/IMG_1041.JPG)

I added a few light dents by setting the plates over the end of a pipe and sinking the ball end of my ball peen into the surface - not very deep, just enough to show. 

And then my favorite part: painting and base weathering.  I havenít jumped into the world of washes and space grime yet. Once Iíve got beaten plates affixed to my soft goods weíll get nuts. 

(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/V2_Shoulder_Plates/IMG_1110.JPG)

(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/V2_Shoulder_Plates/IMG_1112.JPG)

(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/V2_Shoulder_Plates/IMG_1113.JPG)

(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/V2_Shoulder_Plates/IMG_1115.JPG)

(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/V2_Shoulder_Plates/IMG_1116.JPG)

The three color blue pattern is something I came up with for the V1/HíWeen 2020 kit that got me into the Mando thing. I intend to incorporate it into any and all kits I do going forward. One thing I did not do for this paint job was lay down self-etching primer - I used rust oleum paint/primer combo products with mixed results.  I could have done better surface prep as well. Some of the masking pulled away previous layers resulting in unintended but acceptable weathering which I enhanced with abrasion and masking fluid for the next layer.

(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/V2_Shoulder_Plates/IMG_1122.JPG)

(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Second_Son_V2_Wip/app-quest-shldr.jpg)

I also did a much more straightforward paint/weather job for the right shoulder while I was at it.  Top coat is flat black, the under layer is a very pale blue/grey color. I think it turned out okay but I also think I should work it a bit more with some abrasion to add direction the the wear patterns.

(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/V2_Shoulder_Plates/IMG_1117.JPG)

(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/V2_Shoulder_Plates/IMG_1118.JPG)


Iím rapidly getting to where I have to get my soft kit done to the point where I can start tuning my body plates to final fit (they are rough shaped - that is a future update to this thread).
Title: Re: Build Log / WIP: Body Armor
Post by: Second Son on Jul 01, 2021, 02:37 PM
Making an update to the body armor WIP. Process log below.

Got a snap with the plates against me. The bottom is about an inch above my belly button. I think I'm in good shape but I'd appreciate any feedback.
 (https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Second_Son_V2_Wip/IMG_E1734.JPG)
Looking at it objectively, as I have them taped up: chest plates are a bit off-straight, and a little close to the iron heart as a result. A tiny bit of outward rotation around the bottom corners should fix that and get the top outside corners more aligned to the collarplate. They don't feel too wide to me, but I know that's a common pitfall for applicants.


The metal armor project started with lots and lots of planning and drafting and version revisions.
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Second_Son_V2_Wip/PlanningSnip.JPG)

And then like the rest of my parts, I outsourced some cutting.
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Second_Son_V2_Wip/IMG_0818.JPG)
Iron Heart, Vode.
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Second_Son_V2_Wip/IMG_0817.JPG)

Step one for all plates: shaping a curve with a slip roll. Certain pieces have changing angles and curves so I re-worked some areas by turning the plate or tightening the radius or both.
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Second_Son_V2_Wip/IMG_0833.JPG)
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Second_Son_V2_Wip/IMG_0834.JPG)
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Second_Son_V2_Wip/IMG_0850.JPG)
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Second_Son_V2_Wip/IMG_0865.JPG)

For the chest pieces I did a bit of additional rolling and hammering to get the bottom tabs to curl a bit more.

(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Second_Son_V2_Wip/IMG_0876.JPG)
Mocked up the plates to see the proportions and spacing- I know it's not much use without a body behind it....but it felt good to see it.
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Second_Son_V2_Wip/IMG_1214.JPG)


I also kinda started a second set of plates (volume discounts on multiple parts!) that will end up having more angles to the shape.
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Second_Son_V2_Wip/IMG_0878.JPG)
They are intended for a relative.

Some other pieces needed some further forming as well - butt plate, cod, and back plate.

I turned the edges of my butt plate out a bit, hammering over my 1.5" steel pipe and down against a block of wood for a subtle flare. It adds strength and catches the light, and gives places for washes to work. The outward flare echoes my instep plates. (https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/index.php?topic=203372.msg2228516#msg2228516)
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Second_Son_V2_Wip/IMG_0923.JPG)
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Second_Son_V2_Wip/IMG_0922.JPG)
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Second_Son_V2_Wip/IMG_0920.JPG)

The cod presented a challenge - how to go from two simple radii at right angles and raise up a 'bump' in the front.  I cut the profile out of plywood, stuck it on with spray adhesive, and worked the edges with a hammer. Aside from getting a bit off-center, I like how well the method worked. I may go ahead and re-do this one from scratch to get it just right.
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Second_Son_V2_Wip/IMG_0911.JPG)
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Second_Son_V2_Wip/IMG_0914.JPG)
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Second_Son_V2_Wip/IMG_0915.JPG)

Oh, and back plates.  Back plates.
I patterned up a three piece version of a classic Fett type back plate. The primary center portion should meet the 2/3 requirement and the side plates are kind of optional.
I went through similar operations. slip roll in multiple curvatures and directions. some hammer forming around the arm openings. I used the same method as on the cod to raise the center back panel. 
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Second_Son_V2_Wip/IMG_0925.JPG)
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Second_Son_V2_Wip/IMG_0929.JPG)
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Second_Son_V2_Wip/IMG_0933.JPG)
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Second_Son_V2_Wip/IMG_0934.JPG)

Second backplate? OK! this one is a bit smaller, and has some slight angles in the back bend. I added a raised portion to match the first one.
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Second_Son_V2_Wip/IMG_0868.JPG)
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Second_Son_V2_Wip/IMG_0870.JPG)
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Second_Son_V2_Wip/IMG_0872.JPG)
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Second_Son_V2_Wip/IMG_0875.JPG)
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Second_Son_V2_Wip/IMG_0940.JPG)

And that's the story so far. I've got the rough shaping done. I need to do fine tuning once I've got my vest done. Yes I know I'm doing this a little backwards.

Final steps for shaping:
-hammer in radius all around the edges of front body plates for appearance of depth
-tune the back plate and decide about connecting directly to collar plate or having floating shoulder strap plates
-set self-clinching studs for mounting. planning on using grommets on my vest.
-put some 2 or 3mm foam on the back to add some bulk and keep the plates from slipping and clanking too much.

And then painting, weathering and such. The bare metal is beautiful but I don't know how to weather it convincingly.
Title: Re: Build Log / WIP: Body Armor
Post by: Rilal Birom on Jul 03, 2021, 10:13 PM
Commenting to follow, and also to say WOW!
Title: Re: Build Log / WIP: Body Armor
Post by: Second Son on Jul 06, 2021, 08:47 PM
Commenting to follow, and also to say WOW!
Thank you, vod. Your girth belt is next-level.
Anyone reading this WIP had better check it out before reading any further. 

Ok Vode, now for - Cod and butt plate work update!

I wasn't happy with the front and center bump on my cod, so I fixed it. I also ended up trimming the extended 'thong' portion of my cod because comfort is a thing I like. Also forming it turned out to be a nightmare.
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Second_Son_V2_Wip/IMG_1751.JPG)
 I re-cut the wooden buck with an extended top and carried the bump all the way to the top edge. I also flattened the original top of the bump and corrected the edges and alignment.
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Second_Son_V2_Wip/IMG_1753.JPG)

(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Second_Son_V2_Wip/IMG_1755.JPG)
And like another famous wearer of the Beskar, I decided that someone in the past had tried to shoot me in an uncomfortable spot. Ball peen and a pipe connector makes this easy to do.
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Second_Son_V2_Wip/IMG_1754.JPG)
And then the part I really love. First round: Prime and scuff to establish wear/weather pattern and trend. Not pictured: 25 minutes of scouring bare metal with a scotch-brite and steel wool to prep the surface a little better.
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Second_Son_V2_Wip/IMG_1757.JPG)
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Second_Son_V2_Wip/IMG_1773.JPG)
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Second_Son_V2_Wip/IMG_1774.JPG)
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Second_Son_V2_Wip/IMG_1775.JPG)
I figured I'd do somewhat lighter weathering on the back side - less blaster fire, and more like rubbing from the pilot's seat of a starship or from leaning against a bulkhead looking super cool and menacing.
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Second_Son_V2_Wip/IMG_1772.JPG)
First layer of color, Midnight Blue
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Second_Son_V2_Wip/IMG_1777.JPG)
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Second_Son_V2_Wip/IMG_1778.JPG)
Expand the paint chipping and add the second coat, Ink Blue to match the primary color of my gauntlets:
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Second_Son_V2_Wip/IMG_1780.JPG)
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Second_Son_V2_Wip/IMG_1781.JPG)
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Second_Son_V2_Wip/IMG_1779.JPG)
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Second_Son_V2_Wip/IMG_1782.JPG)

And then peel and scuff it up a bit more.
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Second_Son_V2_Wip/IMG_1783.JPG)
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Second_Son_V2_Wip/IMG_1792.JPG)
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Second_Son_V2_Wip/IMG_1793.JPG)
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Second_Son_V2_Wip/IMG_1795.JPG)

And that's the story so far.

Title: Re: Build Log / WIP: Body Armor
Post by: Cattriss Wren on Jul 07, 2021, 08:21 AM
Vode how?? :o.  THIS IS AMAZING!!!!! :porg2: your armor is so wonderful!! Your skill with metal is Astonishing ;)
Title: Re: Build Log / WIP: Body Armor
Post by: Aster Veris on Jul 07, 2021, 12:34 PM
Looks awesome! Great job on getting the cod piece to work
Title: Re: Build Log / WIP: Body Armor
Post by: Rilal Birom on Jul 07, 2021, 02:51 PM
Thanks for the compliment on my girth belt!

I'm loving your progress. Your metal working skills are pretty great!  Keep up the amazing work!
Title: Re: Build Log / WIP: Body Armor
Post by: Second Son on Jul 23, 2021, 05:04 PM
Thanks vode.  Been hitting Soft Kit (http://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/index.php?topic=203821.msg2231745#msg2231745) recently to keep momentum and to force myself to finish my vest - can't finalize the upper body plates until I have it finished and fitting properly.

I was doing some painting, and decided to get a layout shot of everything so far together to track progress.
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Second_Son_V2_Wip/IMG_1885.JPG)
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Second_Son_V2_Wip/IMG_1886.JPG)
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Second_Son_V2_Wip/IMG_1887.JPG)
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Second_Son_V2_Wip/IMG_1888.JPG)

I stacked all the pieces up and weighed them:  5 pounds, 11.3 ounces according to my kitchen scale.
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Second_Son_V2_Wip/IMG_1889.JPG)
About two pounds of that is gauntlets and hand plates, about two pounds for the body plates, and the rest is leg armor.
All in, not a lot of weight to haul around so that should help reduce fatigue for trooping.
Title: Re: Build Log / WIP: Body Armor
Post by: Cattriss Wren on Jul 25, 2021, 08:57 PM
Stunning!!!! Truly amazing!! :like: :like:
Title: Re: Build Log / WIP: Body Armor
Post by: Kurshi BeJahaal on Jul 25, 2021, 11:25 PM
Incredible work here. The paint job is a thing of beauty!  :o
Title: Re: Build Log / WIP: Body Armor
Post by: Second Son on Jul 29, 2021, 08:17 PM
Stunning!!!! Truly amazing!! :like: :like:

Incredible work here. The paint job is a thing of beauty!  :o

Thank you for the kind words vode.

UPDATE:
I was able to get some time between job stuff to do some work on my vest, and I got it to the point where I feel I can temporarily mount my plates to check fit and spacing, and highlight spots for final forming and shaping. 
So, working from the top down like you do, I got the front and then back set with some lock back tie pins taped to the plates (for now). I'm planning to use self-clinching studs and grommets, but we'll see how things go.
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Second_Son_V2_Wip/IMG_1914.JPG)
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Second_Son_V2_Wip/IMG_1915.JPG)
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Second_Son_V2_Wip/IMG_1916.JPG)
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Second_Son_V2_Wip/IMG_1917.JPG)

Some things that show up even before I tried it on - the extended tabs I put into my backplate and collar patterns for the shoulders are long enough to overlap, which is good.
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Second_Son_V2_Wip/IMG_1918.JPG)
I might clip both shorter and salvage the extra to make separate floating plates. I haven't decided yet, but I think that will improve flexibility.
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Second_Son_V2_Wip/IMG_1919.JPG)

I had Child #1 take some snaps with the vest and plates on - so the angle is a bit upward.  Next time I'll have them stand on a stool.
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Second_Son_V2_Wip/IMG_1920.JPG)
front plates look pretty ok to me. The lower corners of the chest plates pull away a little so it'll need some hammering.
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Second_Son_V2_Wip/IMG_1924.JPG)
back plate fits nice, but the closure flaps don't lie as flat as I'd like so they swoosh out a bit. Will solve that later - I have some optional kidney plates that might hold all that in when they are mounted.
Sides look ok. The lower back hem pulls away a bit but I'm wearing a t-shirt, not my flight suit. Will re-evaluate.
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Second_Son_V2_Wip/IMG_1930.JPG)
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Second_Son_V2_Wip/IMG_1931.JPG)

All feed back welcome, I think I'm pretty close on the shaping.
Title: Re: Build Log / WIP: Body Armor
Post by: Second Son on Aug 05, 2021, 05:58 PM
I got annoyed by the collar and back plate tabs so I shortened them.
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Second_Son_V2_Wip/IMG_1977.JPG)
I cut one, then created a template in masking tape on the inside, pealed it and stuck to the Outside on the opposite side, and cut the other tab (both plates)
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Second_Son_V2_Wip/IMG_1978.JPG)
We're experimenting with lock back pins and steel epoxy for mounting - I think kit #2 will use the self-clinching studs and grommets since these seem to be working so far.
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Second_Son_V2_Wip/IMG_1979.JPG)
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Second_Son_V2_Wip/IMG_1981.JPG)
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Second_Son_V2_Wip/IMG_1982.JPG)

I also spent some time tuning the shape now that the flak fits ok.
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Second_Son_V2_Wip/IMG_1988.JPG)

Put on some of the pieces that are "done" for some test pics.
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Second_Son_V2_Wip/IMG_E2018.JPG)
Haven't gotten brave enough to mount knee plates yet, shin plates will have to do.
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Second_Son_V2_Wip/IMG_E2027.JPG)

There's still lots of work to do, but I think the project is advancing well.  I think my plates are set for size, shape, and probably spacing - all feedback welcome. 
Getting psyched up to start painting my body plates.
Title: Re: Build Log / WIP: Body Armor
Post by: Cattriss Wren on Aug 05, 2021, 06:12 PM
hey vode, the spacing is looks good to me!!! :like: over all your kit is really looking nice ;) keep up the good work. ;D
Title: Re: Build Log / WIP: Body Armor
Post by: Fenn Beviin on Aug 09, 2021, 10:11 AM
This is some impressive metal work. Looking forward to seeing this finished.

Random question though - if the helmet in your forum picture the one you will be using with this kit? If so, why is it red while everything else is blue?  :laugh:
Title: Re: Build Log / WIP: Body Armor
Post by: Second Son on Aug 09, 2021, 01:15 PM
This is some impressive metal work. Looking forward to seeing this finished.

Random question though - if the helmet in your forum picture the one you will be using with this kit? If so, why is it red while everything else is blue?  :laugh:

Thanks vod, I'm really enjoying this whole process.
My profile pic is my bucket from my H'ween 2020 family Mando kit - got me hooked on the whole Thing.
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Second_Son_V1_Kit/V1-group.jpg)

It's 3D printed and I never quite got it to perfect because of time constraints so it's not going to be OM level, but I still love the paint job.

Title: Re: Build Log / WIP: Body Armor
Post by: Fenn Beviin on Aug 09, 2021, 01:19 PM
That's awesome!

What about your original helmet do you think isn't OM level status? Judging from that picture it looks great to me - definitely approvable (unless there are some very noticeable seam lines up close).
Title: Re: Build Log / WIP: Body Armor
Post by: Second Son on Aug 09, 2021, 01:25 PM
 At the time all I had access to was one of the printers at work, with only 200mm or so build volume so there were many joints to deal with.
From across the room or at twilight for trick or treating its pretty good but up close and personal and with the right light you can see seams and print lines..

It's ok, I am looking forward to doing another helmet, this time in blues.  :D
Title: Re: Build Log / WIP: Body Armor
Post by: Second Son on Aug 11, 2021, 04:21 PM
I painted some plates. 

First, front body. I committed to the self-clinching studs and eyelets, documented in my Soft Parts WIP (http://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/index.php?topic=203821.msg2240468#msg2240468)
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Second_Son_V2_Wip/IMG_2070.JPG)
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Second_Son_V2_Wip/IMG_2071.JPG)
self-etching primer, and some sanding and scuffing to expose the metal.
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Second_Son_V2_Wip/IMG_2078.JPG)
first liquid mask
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Second_Son_V2_Wip/IMG_2079.JPG)
Base color ( I messed up! I put down midnight blue for my first dry coat but when I checked, my cod and butt plates just used flat black...so the second coat in this layer was flat black. it works) and beginning second masking.
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Second_Son_V2_Wip/IMG_2081.JPG)
Top color - Rustoleum's Ink Blue
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Second_Son_V2_Wip/IMG_2088.JPG)
Peeling my masking layers, and getting artful with a scotchbrite, x-acto, steel wool, awl, etc. to tone down the sheen, blend the edges of the layers, and make sure that all the masking is pulled off.
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Second_Son_V2_Wip/IMG_2091.JPG)
on the vest
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Second_Son_V2_Wip/IMG_2094.JPG)
Iron heart is not mounted - I've made a nice new shiny one to put in, (https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Second_Son_V2_Wip/IMG_2053.JPG)
 But I also made one that matches the paint and weathering scheme, which I subsequently beat mercilessly to put on a cord to carry with me.
-STORY MODE- the damage in the center chest was focused on the iron heart, which was damaged beyond use but kept me alive. Rather than melting it down and remaking it, I kept it as a reminder to be cautious and made an entirely new one. -END STORY MODE-
I'll need to get down and dirty with dark washes and carbon scoring there to tell the story and contrast the shiny "new" piece.
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Second_Son_V2_Wip/IMG_2097.JPG)
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Second_Son_V2_Wip/IMG_2103.JPG)
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Second_Son_V2_Wip/IMG_2104.JPG)

Oh and I did thebackplate too:
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Second_Son_V2_Wip/IMG_2084.JPG)
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Second_Son_V2_Wip/IMG_2083.JPG)
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Second_Son_V2_Wip/IMG_2087.JPG)
I'm not weathering the back with as much violence - mostly looking to have the look of wear at the edges and scuffs from the cockpit seat, or leaning on bulkheads looking cool,  and adding some wear around the raised panel edges and jetpack slots (eventully looking to make that upgrade). Good sensors and a friendly sniper keep you from getting shot in the back. 
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Second_Son_V2_Wip/IMG_2115.JPG)
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Second_Son_V2_Wip/IMG_2116.JPG)
on the vest for checking.
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Second_Son_V2_Wip/IMG_2119.JPG)

With that, I think the base painting and weathering is on all my current armor pieces.

I still need to get knee plates padded and mounted, instep and shin plates padded and finish strapping.  And finish up soft kit, including a belt or sash to hold my cod and butt plates.
Title: Re: Build Log / WIP: Body Armor
Post by: Second Son on Aug 16, 2021, 04:36 PM
Mini update:

I started up the knee plate mounting, so I decided to test it out with the rest of what I've got wear-able so far.
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/V2_Knees/IMG_2132.JPG)
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/V2_Knees/IMG_2131.JPG)
I'll need to add some padding and internal elastics to help hold them in place better. I might create some 'quilted' knee pads to sew to the flight suit.
I also made some pads for the shin plates with an extended spat to hide boot laces and for mounting boot plates.
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/V2_Knees/IMG_2147.JPG)
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/V2_Knees/IMG_2148.JPG)

I got First Spawn to takes some snaps of the current status. How does the spacing look for all the things? I put on the old bucket for proportion check on the shoulder bells.
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Second_Son_V2_Wip/IMG_2149.JPG)
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Second_Son_V2_Wip/IMG_2152.JPG)

I think I've got things in the right place relative to each other so far. My next push (beyond finishing the knee mounting) is getting some waist items under control and getting boot plates affixed.
Title: Re: Build Log / WIP: Body Armor
Post by: Aster Veris on Aug 16, 2021, 08:02 PM
That looks awesome, vod! Your skill with metal is so cool. For spacing, I'd say the iron heart is a little off center. Those things are so annoying to get perfect.
Title: Re: Build Log / WIP: Body Armor
Post by: Cattriss Wren on Aug 16, 2021, 08:27 PM
I agree with aster, it's looking amazing!! Your skills with metal is outstanding!! :like:
Title: Re: Build Log / WIP: Body Armor
Post by: Fenn Beviin on Aug 17, 2021, 03:18 PM
This is looking fantastic.

I really love what you did with the shin/knee combo.
Title: Re: Build Log / WIP: Body Armor
Post by: Second Son on Aug 20, 2021, 04:15 PM
Thanks Vode, your encouragement really helps keep my energy up. I'll see about the spacing on my iron heart - just because the eyelets can be moved doesn't make it fast to do. Easier than cutting in grommets at least.

Micro-update:

I was looking at the right side chest plate and decided it needed a thing.
So I made a Thing.  I took a personal symbol of mine and stylized it a bit for Swarzy use as a sigil reminiscent of His Fett-ness.
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Second_Son_V2_Wip/IMG_2165.JPG)
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Second_Son_V2_Wip/IMG_2166.JPG)
I won't bore you with a dozen process pics showing the masking. Not sure why some photos randomly rotate 90 and others don't...
I need to stop distracting myself from the main project and get the remaining lower body plates sorted out.
I bit the bullet and ordered a cast resin helmet to make sure I have something good to work with - I have no confidence in scratch building a bucket from metal with my current equipment and skill level. So I guess I'll be starting up that WIP within the next few weeks.
Title: Re: Build Log / WIP: Body Armor
Post by: Aster Veris on Aug 21, 2021, 08:48 PM
Love the logo, everything about this build is awesome!
Title: Re: Build Log / WIP: Body Armor
Post by: Kurshi BeJahaal on Aug 22, 2021, 05:34 PM
I've been really busy with things elsewhere on the forums but when I came back to look at updates, I see all this awesomeness!

That paint job is on point man! Just a killer job all around.

I was thinking the collar plate started just a little bit too low, but it's harder to tell in the most recent pictures. Ideally, you want it starting right at the base of your neck, but no lt so tight that it feels like it'll choke you. But this is such a slick looking build so far.

I think I agree with evening.echiveria that the diamond was a bit off center, but you'll work that out. Everything else is looking great!
Title: Re: Build Log / WIP: Body Armor
Post by: Fenn Beviin on Aug 23, 2021, 07:56 AM
Personal sigil looks great! A nice subtle nod to the man that started it all.

You should check out TheWeldingGeek if you haven't already, if you plan on attempting a scratch built metal bucket. He is a vod in Taakure clan and is generally more than happy to answer questions. His forum name is MajaSchwa - I don't think he's on the forums much though but he is MaytheSchwartzbeWithyouCosplay on Instagram. Tell him I sent you if you message him ha
Title: Re: Build Log / WIP: Body Armor
Post by: Second Son on Aug 23, 2021, 09:56 AM
Personal sigil looks great! A nice subtle nod to the man that started it all.

You should check out TheWeldingGeek if you haven't already, if you plan on attempting a scratch built metal bucket. He is a vod in Taakure clan and is generally more than happy to answer questions. His forum name is MajaSchwa - I don't think he's on the forums much though but he is MaytheSchwartzbeWithyouCosplay on Instagram. Tell him I sent you if you message him ha

Funny you should mention The Welding Geek - I got inspired to do a metal build by watching his videos. I blatantly stole the idea for plate mounting with self-clinching studs  from him. Oftentimes my approach to a problem is "what is the primitive/low rent version of Matt's solution to this?" or "can this be done with just a hammer, bench vise and piece of pipe?" I think that a full metal helmet build is the eventual goal but may have to be done in a future kit (I am already semi-planning one and haven't even finished my first. Is that nuts?) when I have improved my skills and added a few key tools to my collection.

Love the logo, everything about this build is awesome!
  Thanks Vod! I'm enjoying this whole process. I will be studying your weathering to get the soft kit looking good.

I've been really busy with things elsewhere on the forums but when I came back to look at updates, I see all this awesomeness!

That paint job is on point man! Just a killer job all around.

I was thinking the collar plate started just a little bit too low, but it's harder to tell in the most recent pictures. Ideally, you want it starting right at the base of your neck, but no lt so tight that it feels like it'll choke you. But this is such a slick looking build so far.

I think I agree with evening.echiveria that the diamond was a bit off center, but you'll work that out. Everything else is looking great!
  Thanks Vod. Honestly, the metal plates just absolutely love to be weathered, I think they make it easier to get a good result when I don't have to worry about going all the way through to a non-metallic base material with my beatings and scratches. The collar top height feels right when I'm wearing it, but I may still adjust the left side downward since the gap is ever so slightly uneven across the width.
 

Thanks, vode, for the encouragement and the constructive feed back. I will definitely be tweaking the iron heart since Aster pointed it out and now I can't seem to see much else. I think the solution is to rotate the top edge to my right, keeping the bottom mounting eyelet in the same place.   

General CRL compliance question, does the back plate appear to cover enough for Modern? I have some additional plates that I can add to cover my kidneys better. I was saving them for potential future upgrades, but I can paint them up and mount them now if that would be better for initial application. 
Title: Re: Build Log / WIP: Body Armor
Post by: Aster Veris on Aug 23, 2021, 07:45 PM
Thanks Vod! I'm enjoying this whole process. I will be studying your weathering to get the soft kit looking good.

Thanks, vode, for the encouragement and the constructive feed back. I will definitely be tweaking the iron heart since Aster pointed it out and now I can't seem to see much else. I think the solution is to rotate the top edge to my right, keeping the bottom mounting eyelet in the same place.   

General CRL compliance question, does the back plate appear to cover enough for Modern? I have some additional plates that I can add to cover my kidneys better. I was saving them for potential future upgrades, but I can paint them up and mount them now if that would be better for initial application.

1. Awe thanks! My words of wisdom for weathering is use paint (I use acrylics) so that you can wash your soft parts and have them be nice and clean, but still keep the dirty look. Also use real life references to model your weathering after and try to copy that instead of just doing a black wash. For my armor I used my water bottle as reference to the paint chipping and dents, for my shoes I went hiking after a rainstorm and used the dirty shoes as reference... etc.

2. The heart is SOOOOO annoying to get right. My advice is to put on your vest/armor and get someone else to place it. If you're trying to correct the spacing without the armor curved to fit your body, it's always going to be a bit off.

3. I'm no expert or ruus'alor, but modern CRLs say the backplate needs to be covering 2/3rd of your back. So I think you're okay.

Keep up the awesome work!!!!
Title: Re: Build Log / WIP: Body Armor
Post by: Kurshi BeJahaal on Aug 23, 2021, 11:04 PM
3. I'm no expert or ruus'alor, but modern CRLs say the backplate needs to be covering 2/3rd of your back. So I think you're okay.

Maybe not an "expert" (yet) but I agree with you Aster.  :)
Title: Re: Build Log / WIP: Body Armor
Post by: Second Son on Sep 10, 2021, 07:39 PM
Not a lot of update going on - I've started on a new helmet to wear with the Official Kit and I've played around with weathering soft parts (https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/index.php?topic=203821.0). Notably, I've gotten further with soft parts to support my butt and cod plates.
I had Spawn1 snap some photos to see the things coming together.  The lighting in my hallway was not as good as I thought it would be, so I brightened the pics to see details better.
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Second_Son_V2_Wip/IMG_2318.JPG)
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Second_Son_V2_Wip/IMG_2321.JPG)
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Second_Son_V2_Wip/IMG_2323.JPG)
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Second_Son_V2_Wip/IMG_2327.JPG)

Still got a ways to go but I can feel it coming together.
I can see that I need to be very careful when dressing for app pics, if nothing else....
And I gotta do some gloves.
All feedback and constructive criticism is welcome.
Title: Re: Build Log / WIP: Body Armor
Post by: Dro Shai on Sep 10, 2021, 09:35 PM
Your kit looks super dope, I really admire people who know their way around steel/metal. That's a lot of skill, I have to ask does it feel really heavy when you're wearing it? I really love your helmet color choice. That and the lines of all the armor are so clean and look really professional. To me though, a novice crafter haha. So take that as you will. But it looks really fantastic so far!! :cookie:
Title: Re: Build Log / WIP: Body Armor
Post by: Second Son on Sep 10, 2021, 10:09 PM
Thanks for the kind words, vod. I had some basic metal knowledge before, and I'm learning a lot of new things as I go.

It's pretty light, lighter than you would think. The metal bits weigh just under 6 pounds all together. The gauntlets are the heaviest individual pieces at about a pound each. I think the cast resin helmet I'm starting up will weigh more than the plates do. The helmet I've been wearing for pictures is from a family H'ween group costume - I never got the thing to MMCC level (ugh, print lines) but it gives me the right proportions for judging the rest of the kit. I could probably strip it down and get the lines ultra smooth but I love the paint job and I'm unwilling to mess it up. I have been dropping bits of red elsewhere in the kit so I might keep the red dome in the final scheme. I definitely plan to re-use the smae energy from the mark over my right eye - to me it looks like someone either decided to grab my head and skip it off a building, or a space wizard smacked me with their fancy glowstick. Either way it tells a story.

I went with aluminum rather than steel, for weight considerations. The tradeoff is that the aluminum will work-harden and crack if you fiddle too much with it.  I will say that the metal makes painting and weathering much simpler - after base layering/masking/chipping of colors, there's no accidentally scuffing through to bare Sintra and you can really go nuts with things like gravel dragging, razor nicks, hammer strikes etc.  It's pretty fun to beat the plates up.


Title: Re: Build Log / WIP: Body Armor
Post by: Dro Shai on Sep 11, 2021, 09:10 PM
Thanks for the kind words, vod. I had some basic metal knowledge before, and I'm learning a lot of new things as I go.

It's pretty light, lighter than you would think. The metal bits weigh just under 6 pounds all together. The gauntlets are the heaviest individual pieces at about a pound each. I think the cast resin helmet I'm starting up will weigh more than the plates do. The helmet I've been wearing for pictures is from a family H'ween group costume - I never got the thing to MMCC level (ugh, print lines) but it gives me the right proportions for judging the rest of the kit. I could probably strip it down and get the lines ultra smooth but I love the paint job and I'm unwilling to mess it up. I have been dropping bits of red elsewhere in the kit so I might keep the red dome in the final scheme. I definitely plan to re-use the smae energy from the mark over my right eye - to me it looks like someone either decided to grab my head and skip it off a building, or a space wizard smacked me with their fancy glowstick. Either way it tells a story.

I went with aluminum rather than steel, for weight considerations. The tradeoff is that the aluminum will work-harden and crack if you fiddle too much with it.  I will say that the metal makes painting and weathering much simpler - after base layering/masking/chipping of colors, there's no accidentally scuffing through to bare Sintra and you can really go nuts with things like gravel dragging, razor nicks, hammer strikes etc.  It's pretty fun to beat the plates up.

I honestly wouldn't have expected that to not weigh a bunch! I have to say since you mentioned it, I did really like that scratch/mark on your Mando's helm across the visor area. It looks super dope! I def appreciate the thought of story elements woven into costume builds, adds so much more character and believability of the costume. That and I feel like it's so much more badass too. I dig the space wizard concept, though I'm a sucker for in depth character creation so props to you!

I can imagine it's a lot better with weathering yeah, so much more realistic too!! I have to say my experience with sintra has been good and bad, but thats coming form someone who pretty much only use EVA foam for a good while before switching.. Again dope build excited to see more progress! I hope it goes smoothly :cookie:
Title: Re: Build Log / WIP: Body Armor
Post by: Kurshi BeJahaal on Sep 11, 2021, 10:31 PM
Man, it's looking really good. The biggest thing that catches my eye right now is the knee/shin area. It looks like your shins end a little high and are crowding and potentially going to touch your knee plates. The issue with the Boba thigh pouches is that is sometimes puts the knees a little lower than normal... also, strapping around them can be a pain.

Maybe just a tweak to make sure the shoulders are even, the left looks like it is rotated back a little bit.

But I'm loving the progress here. You're doing great on this build!
Title: Re: Build Log / WIP: Body Armor
Post by: Second Son on Sep 22, 2021, 11:38 AM
I've been focused on getting a helmet (https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/index.php?topic=205920.0) ready so I've only done a little bit on the armor. 


Man, it's looking really good. The biggest thing that catches my eye right now is the knee/shin area. It looks like your shins end a little high and are crowding and potentially going to touch your knee plates. The issue with the Boba thigh pouches is that is sometimes puts the knees a little lower than normal... also, strapping around them can be a pain.

Maybe just a tweak to make sure the shoulders are even, the left looks like it is rotated back a little bit.

But I'm loving the progress here. You're doing great on this build!

Thanks for the notes vod - When I pull my pants up to the right height the knee-shin gap looks much better. I'm looking at planning on doing some snaps or velcro to keep the two-part flight suit in place but still openable for biological reasons. I've done some more tailoring because my local leadership mentioned the legs looked a little baggy still.

About the shoulders - I've put new eyelets in (red) to correct the placement issue. Incremental progress is better than none.
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Second_Son_V2_Wip/IMG_2365.JPG)

I think that my eyelets have improved in quality, if not speed.
 
Title: Re: Build Log / WIP: Body Armor
Post by: Kurshi BeJahaal on Sep 23, 2021, 03:13 AM
Agreed! Small steps are still steps in the right direction.

It's good to know that the issue was a simple kitting up fix.
Title: Re: Build Log / WIP: Body Armor
Post by: Second Son on Oct 15, 2021, 05:32 PM
I think the Helmet (http://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/index.php?topic=205920.msg2246172#msg2246172) is under control, and I finished up modifying my gloves for Mando-ing, and I started weathering my flak vest and neck seal (http://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/index.php?topic=203821.msg2254134#msg2254134) -  so of course I kitted up for some progress photos.  Range finder and another ear cap accessory (I got two RF so I can do the flexibility thing) are future upgrades in the current plan.
I need to slap the knees around a bit more, they looked fine when I put everything on. Maybe the photo angle and moving around makes them look like they overlap my shin guards. Maybe some straps inside my pant legs to pull them tighter, they do flop a little.  I did tailor the legs in a bit to take care of the bagginess.
Compare to last round of kit-up photos (with my OG bucket), and my OM concept at the end.  I think I'm getting there.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51591881317_75b1788ef3_o.jpg) Front (https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Second_Son_V2_Wip/IMG_2318.JPG)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51592704411_91a20bd017_o.jpg) Right (https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Second_Son_V2_Wip/IMG_2321.JPG)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51593599895_02bacc48f3_o.jpg) Back (https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Second_Son_V2_Wip/IMG_2327.JPG)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51593368054_930047dd4e_o.jpg) Left (https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Second_Son_V2_Wip/IMG_2323.JPG)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51593599790_d02bb50c35_o.jpg) Bucket Off (sorta) (https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Second_Son_V2_Wip/V2-concept.JPG)

I'm saving the thigh holsters and DE-10s that go with them (gift from my cousin!) for a future kit (probably post-imp). I'm making some scratch built Westars for now, we'll see how that goes and if it turns out ok, I'll slap together some belt holsters and move belt pouches around. I added a third Boba-style cloth pouch, I'm planning to put the medic symbol on it, weather it, and put an actual first aid kit in it to handle mishaps during trooping times.
Also that hose is out of control, I need to do something about it.
Title: Re: Build Log / WIP: Body Armor
Post by: Fenn Beviin on Oct 18, 2021, 08:32 AM
Looking really good dude!

The hose is definitely out of control  :laugh: I honestly you could fix that though but just rolling the double sleeves on your flight suit up just once. Right now, the two of them seem to be fighting each other with how long the sleeves are and how long the protrusion is off of your gauntlet with the hose. As is, the attachment point is farther up your arm than where your sleeve ends. Boba's double sleeve ends before his elbow and yours appears to go past yours. Doing that may help the hose issue (also maybe shortening the hose as well). That being said, hoses on kits are always a little pesky - I have issues with mine coming out of my sleeve relatively frequently ha

If you are concerned about the bunching around your knees, I hear adding stir-ups to the bottom of your pant legs will help keep everything pulled down.
Soft parts will definitely also end up needing more weathering to match your plates but your kit is turning out fantastic. Keep it up!
Title: Re: Build Log / WIP: Body Armor
Post by: Second Son on Nov 22, 2021, 05:20 PM
It's been a minute - but I have an update.

New kit-up pics, now with improved* lighting, better gunbelt, and 100% more capes. (https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/index.php?topic=203821.msg2263312#msg2263312)
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51699043449_9584dbef86_b.jpg)
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51698367856_35310dbc20_b.jpg)  (https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51698367826_5ba3272d48_b.jpg)
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51699043319_f63171ebb6_b.jpg)

Cape mount close-up - I think it's pretty good for a 2-hour speedpaint.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51694468154_3c828fb7a5_c.jpg)

I've got my own fix list, tell me what you see, vode!  I think I can be ready for Clan pre-app by mid-December, and start my OM application process January 2022.


*well, brighter lighting, anyway. need to tweak my kludge diffusers to reduce hotspots.
Title: Re: Build Log / WIP: Body Armor
Post by: Second Son on Dec 04, 2021, 02:28 PM
Not much of an update, but last night I tested out the kit at the St Louis Science Center's Star Wars Night. (side bar, if you are visiting St. Louis, go the the Science Center and go to the Zoo - general admission is FREE, you only have to pay for special exhibits) I made sure to be clear that I am not an official member and did my best to promote the Mercs.
I only had minor issues, discovered that I need to do some tweaks to a few spots. Nothing fell apart, nothing fell all the way off, and nobody ran up and punched me in the cod plate so overall pretty succesful test run. One nut came off a chest plate, and one came off my back plate, but both stayed on because of the other connection points. One knee popped loose at the very end because a nut had loosened and fell off, but didn't fall off because the other two points stayed connected. I may just add a fourth connection point to each knee, double nut each and every screw on every plate and use some automotive thread-lock glue that I can pop with a little wrench when it's time to wash the soft goods. My neck seal worked itself out from under my vest at one point, so I think some velcro or straight-up stitching it into the vest is in order. That'll be one less thing to remember to put on. My sash-y girth and gun belt kept sliding downward, I may have to add a few holes to the belt so I can cinch it down better. Something to keep things sliding around on the belt might also be good.
Breathing in a face mask and a bucket led to a bit of what I've dubbed 'swamp-helmet' so I am going to need to install my fans. Which will likely speed up the need for an external audio pickup, so yay, projects!

I was so busy hanging out with the real OMs, wow-ing over some dope 501st and Rebel Legion kits, and walking around Mando-ing (kids were delightful, adults were basically just larger kids and also delightful) that I only got one picture for myself, with my fellow aspiring Mando ValinKrai. (http://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/index.php?topic=201635.0)
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51724708320_e8894d546c_b.jpg) You can see that I'm grinning like a five-year-old because R2-D2.

I'm clearly in the middle of things, bits and pieces a little out of app-photo alignment but I think I still look like a Mando in general, so great success. I added a range finder (http://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/index.php?topic=205920.msg2266109#msg2266109) because it is part of the iconic look.

 I have done demos for kids in another costume-involved hobby, but this was my first experience doing a costumed thing like this (not exactly calling it a troop because I'm not official) and it was a massive happy-chemical rush in my brain so I can say with certainty that I am beginning to Get It.
Title: Re: Build Log / WIP: Body Armor
Post by: Cattriss Wren on Dec 04, 2021, 03:30 PM
Wow sounds like you had a blast!! Congrats on your armor staying with you and not falling off. That's definitely a challenge.Your kit looks great vode. Hanging out with your clan must have been super fun!  ;D
Title: Re: Build Log / WIP: Body Armor
Post by: Fenn Beviin on Dec 06, 2021, 08:31 AM
The first time wearing the armor in public always quite the rush for sure!

Sounds like you had a blast and helped other have a blast as well which is the most important part. Looks like you have quite the things of things to get completed next! haha Also - yes, trying to not fog up the visor and diminish your already narrowed visual field is quite the hassle  :laugh:
Title: Re: Build Log / WIP: Body Armor
Post by: CaderBug13 on Dec 06, 2021, 08:47 AM
Congrats vode! sound like you had a blast!  :porg2:
Title: Re: Build Log / WIP: Body Armor
Post by: Aster Veris on Dec 09, 2021, 12:27 PM
Awesome! Glad you had a good time
Title: Re: Build Log / WIP: Body Armor
Post by: Second Son on Dec 18, 2021, 12:49 PM
I re-worked a few minor, mostly internal things and did some kit-up photos.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51755076318_710c1b1993_k.jpg) (https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51755707175_834b58c958_k.jpg)
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51755707855_1dda50f18e_k.jpg) (https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51754850411_14ddf2ee5b_k.jpg)
Incremental Progress. I may need to do a bit more with my knees still.
I think I may just send this series in for pre-app and see what comments come back.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51755076813_156c7ef85a_k.jpg)

Added weathering to my cape, but it's hard to see it very clearly in full photos.
It's actually hard to physically beat this fabric up, its resistant to wear and durable by nature. Which is great - it'll last basically forever - but frustrating as a costumer because it probably could stand for some more wear for the Aesthetic. I resorted to topical weathering with fabric paint to try and make it look more used.

So far I've:


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51755712705_13e162f96d_z.jpg)
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51755712845_c2f5936a65_z.jpg)
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51755712920_564089126b_c.jpg)
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51754011252_f376d3cc8e_c.jpg)

Cat hair just sort of magically appeared. I guess it's free weathering.
Title: Re: Build Log / WIP: Body Armor
Post by: EricL on Dec 18, 2021, 03:25 PM
Cat hair doesnít seem to follow the regular rules of space-time, itís a real pain. Kit looks awesome! The cape looks great, and just thinking that the documentation is key for the App folks to see that the weathering is indeed there. Thigh pockets are very nice, like a different model from wherever Boba would get his haha, but really theyíre nicely filled and not in the way of anything. Sigil on the chest is awesome, plates seem to seat nicely, and love the backplate.

Only thing that caught my (unofficial and inexperienced) eye is that the cod assembly looks a bit off center compared to the torso, and also wider than the span of the chest plates. I canít remember ever seeing the width be an issue, just an observation.
Title: Re: Build Log / WIP: Body Armor
Post by: Second Son on Jan 09, 2022, 03:16 PM
 I'm an action figure now!  My brother does custom and mash-up GI Joe figs for fun with his boy-child.
He did this from a pic I shared in the sibling chat. He even added the Danger Stripes.
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Also, I got pre-app feedback so the project can continue on the right path. It doesn't feel like a whole lot, and I'm proud to see that the pre-app review included the word 'impressive' in reference to my progress!
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Some of it I can probably attribute to kitting up issues and how I'm standing but there's a good bit of work left to do.
So far I've been able to do some additional soft goods weathering while Mrs. Second Son and I do some TV time after the spawn are in bed.

Front, overall
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some close-ups. 
I shortened my double sleeve to mid-bicep and it definitely looks better. Also gave me a chance for some topstitch details and a place to catch some Space Grime.(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51810842734_84afae00ee_b.jpg)

Added a 'repair' in a few spots (upper thigh, some of the pouch seams) by just running a satin stitch in heavy linen thread and dropping on some extra stainage around it.
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I've been working with the knee plates attached so I know where to start and stop, and I've kept the lower hems less dirty, as I've decided that i like my pant legs tucked into my boots better.

Rear, overall
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Some close-ups. Added more backsweat staining
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I'm strongly considering adding a kama so I've held back on the areas that would cover - I've done some subtle stuff and my butt and back of thigh wouldn't gather as much wear and dirt if they are covered most of the time.
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Again, boots tucked in so lower hem is cleaner but my calves and up to behind the knees are going to get some grime accumulation

AND THE CAPE!  I think I've gotten a handle on making it look dirtalicious in person and still have it photograph ok.

Outside
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Inside
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What do you think, vode? Right direction on the soft goods?
I'll try to kit up again soon to see how well it blends my level of wear across the kit.
Title: Re: Build Log / WIP: Body Armor
Post by: Aster Veris on Jan 09, 2022, 09:15 PM
You're definitely heading in the right direction vod! Congrats on being an action figure  ;D
Title: Re: Build Log / WIP: Body Armor
Post by: Cattriss Wren on Jan 09, 2022, 09:42 PM
Everything looks great!! Awesome action figure :like:
Title: Re: Build Log / WIP: Body Armor
Post by: HinRed on Jan 11, 2022, 10:17 AM
The action figure is amazing. Weathering is also coming along really well! Your kit Is looking awesome!
Title: Re: Build Log / WIP: Body Armor
Post by: Second Son on Jan 15, 2022, 07:27 PM
Thanks for the kind words, vode.

You're definitely heading in the right direction vod! Congrats on being an action figure  ;D
  Thanks vod - I'm still aspiring to match the weathering skill of the CEO of Socks.  The Monarch of Mud? 

Another micro-update - following up on a pre-app fix list item. They said I needed to add some weathering to the buckle and the pouches, so I spent a while griming up my cloth pouches and adding some to the cleaner of my leather pouches. 
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Oh and I made a nice cover for my belt buckle.  This was planned for a future upgrade, but if the buckle already needs work for base approval...
 Two layers of .060 brass, the back plate is patinated.  I rolled them to match the curve of the buckle. Riveted together and to the buckle blank with some solid brass rods passed through and peened over from both sides.  I countersunk the holes first to allow the rivets to hold & for them to be filed flat to keep them low-profile and mostly invisible.
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Hopefully this meets the spirit of the review note. I will let the buckle age naturally from now on and occasionally buff the high points.
Title: Re: Build Log / WIP: Body Armor
Post by: Aster Veris on Jan 16, 2022, 11:20 PM
I'm still aspiring to match the weathering skill of the CEO of Socks.  The Monarch of Mud? 

Another micro-update - following up on a pre-app fix list item. They said I needed to add some weathering to the buckle and the pouches, so I spent a while griming up my cloth pouches and adding some to the cleaner of my leather pouches. 
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Awe you flatter me! The key is just acrylic paint! And speaking of weathering you could use more on the black holster, it feels too new compared to the pouches. I would recommend watered down brown/light brown and do a wash or two on it.
Title: Re: Build Log / WIP: Body Armor
Post by: Second Son on Jan 17, 2022, 11:00 PM
I've been on the fence about the holsters, they're the first ones I've made and I'm still leery of damaging them. I'll go for some more (light to start) weathering as the guru of grit suggests.  Touch of wire brush on the corners first. A bit of 'splatter' at the bottom and scuffs on the strap to show repetitive use. A little bit of brown wash accumulating in the tooled linework. 
Title: Re: Build Log / WIP: Body Armor
Post by: Aster Veris on Jan 18, 2022, 07:09 PM
Sounds like a good plan!
Title: Re: Build Log / WIP: Body Armor
Post by: Second Son on Jan 29, 2022, 04:59 PM
One of my pre-app feedback items was to fix the 'float' of my cod plate. So I patterned out a lower part for my cod to follow the line of a classic Fett style but I did it in leather lined with cloth, because comfort. Hopefully that doesn't make it no longer considered a 'solid' cod plate.  I added some strapping to complete the full bobathong. I've also made myself a kama; I've directly attached it to my sash so I can put it all on in one go. The mounting stud heads just visible on the front of the cod have been painted since I snapped the progress pic. Please don't judge my safety pins, it's still in progress.
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Not strictly required, but I felt my side closures weren't quite right, so I added some buckles and straps.  I used scraps from the vest materials to make the straps, and painted aluminum buckles which I've scuffed up and brown-washed.  Then I went nuts on the fresh new straps with Space Grime. These look and feel better, and I'm glad I used fabric instead of nylon webbing, it lust looks better this way. There's some webbing on my shins, I may have to swap it out for canvas straps like these...
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I also wasn't satisfied with my right shoulder plate, it felt too plain. My brothers and I regularly refer to one another by our number, and as I am the Second Son....
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That's all for now. I've got a few fit items to wriggle. I spent some time weathering my holsters and  re-working spacing on my front armor, we'll see if it is an improvement when I get some more full kit pics snapped.
Title: Re: Build Log / WIP: Body Armor
Post by: Vercopaanir on Jan 30, 2022, 03:17 PM
Nice work!

I like the solution you came up with for the floating plate.  Since soft cods (like biker scouts and some Darth Vaders) are allowed you will still be good regardless of how it ends up being classified.  I'm tucking that one into my solutions bonnet for later.
Title: Re: Build Log / WIP: Body Armor
Post by: Second Son on Jan 30, 2022, 04:53 PM
Verco - Thank you. I tried to let it be free but the cod needed to be contained. Honestly putting hard plates against the softest parts of our bodies isn't much fun if there's no actual space war happening. This solution is my stab at keeping a hard cod (brigades are on my mind after I get OM and do some troops) and also being comfortable. By all means use the idea, I think I owe you one since I've been taking notes on your work.
 
On to the update!
Pictures happened. Maybe one last round of considered weathering and tweaks?  Careful kit-up will be the thing regardless of whether I make any tangible changes.
 I'm aware that my backplate looks wonky, I think my stance and the weight of my cape is putting it out of whack. That's going to be a focal point of my last push to application photos. I've been looking over my pre-app feedback and I think the things that stuck out most as stumbling blocks for approval are addressed.

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additional shots:
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I welcome honest and constructive feedback, I want to make this kit as good as I can.
Title: Re: Build Log / WIP: Body Armor
Post by: Vercopaanir on Jan 30, 2022, 05:46 PM
Looking really good!  :o

I see what your saying about the plates and the cape drag.  I think there might be couple things you can try to help with that when you go to take your app photos.  If you look at your head-on photo you can see how that whole shoulder plate is actually sitting lower then the other side which is cape weight.  My advice is to make sure when you taking your photos for the front that the cape is fully resting on your backplate for them (if possible).

Another thing that might help with that is giving the whole vest a tug forward and down.  If you look at your side photo you can see the vest is nearly an inch lower in the back then the front which will increase the drag of the cape on the whole kit.  So if you grab your collar plate and give a lift and tug forward and down that will help even that out and put the cape attachment more squarely on the top of the shoulder versus the dragging so far on the back.  (Helps with the fight with gravity).
That tug forward will also help with the very slight bunching in the vest you can see on the pouches from the back photo. 

Another thing I found when taking my own personal app photos is that how you stand makes a big difference.  I never square up to a camera so taking my app photos was hard.  I always want to put one foot a little further forward and tip my body ever so slightly to the side, but that skews the whole perspective.  Took me a couple rounds of photos to realize I was doing it.  So my advice, whenever I am helping take app photos, is to always check your feet.  If you're standing square the odds are better that the picture will look better and of course it makes it easier on the photographer to help you position the rest of your body correctly.  I personally tend to lower my left shoulder and put that foot forward.  Doesn't look like your doing it here but just throwing that out as something to be aware of.

I absolutely love that belt buckle  :o and the stylized two is a nice personal touch.  As daughter #2 I can relate (#2 of 7 girls) to being called by number sometimes.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Build Log / WIP: Body Armor
Post by: Second Son on Jan 30, 2022, 07:40 PM
Solid advice, thank you.  It's tough to get that precise type of feedback and institutional knowledge without being able to do armor parties. I'll have to remember to brief my usual photographer (ad'ika #1) on the best ways for me to stand. They are 8 and absolutely will not hesitate to tell me what to do and remind me of the things I've said.

Now I'm thinking about putting an eyelet on my right shoulder and a little hook on the corner of the cape, to turn it into a short cape until I get a jetpack, whose weight would hopefully pull everything into place better anyway. Then I'll just drop it down into a classic shoulder cape (or pass it on to another kit and go aerial assault? who knows). I could also make another mounting plate, I have another plate just like it I can use.

I think that a big part of my wonkyness is rushing to kit up and not paying attention to what I'm about. I seem to end up looking like I've been trooping for an hour by the time I get to taking the pics.
Title: Re: Build Log / WIP: Body Armor
Post by: Cattriss Wren on Jan 30, 2022, 10:09 PM
Wow great job vode!!! Your kit looks awesome :like: you did such amazing work with your armor!
Title: Re: Build Log / WIP: Body Armor
Post by: Jennari on Jan 30, 2022, 10:12 PM
 Very nice.
Title: Re: Build Log / WIP: Body Armor
Post by: Second Son on Feb 20, 2022, 10:34 PM
Ok so:  I think i've hit my Pre-App review notes, so I today  took some photos. I did a little "Dressing a Bounty Hunter" bit, and then did some pre-app shots.
I fixed up my cape so it can be on both shoulders, or one. It seems that when I get dressed with it on both and then let it down, the back plate goes on straight and stays that way.
Now for pictures.

Layer One. Flightsuit, two-piece style. I added some stirrups, will make them more permanent when I have time.
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Layer Two. Armored boots, cod&butt plate, girth belt, & kama (or as ad'ika t'ad calls it - butt cape) .

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Layer Three. Guns n Gauntlets (my Mandalorian themed hair metal cover band)

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Layer Four. front and back armor, helmet, the best cape in the Galaxy.

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It can be worn both ways
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Detail Shots.

Carrying some space wizard glow stick rocks and some Iron Hearts. I painted three with random colors, but it turned out I actually themed them appropriately for some people important to me without thinking about it. Fourth is the one I'd wear if I didn't like the brass one so much (and hadn't beat the kriff out of it)
Future Second Son will add some more trophy-like items for some ultra double-secret planned upgrades.
Bumped up the weathering on my holsters from none whatsoever to some brownwashes and scuffing.
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Spacing - I had some issues but I think we are good now, everything seems consistently and symmetrically set, Iron heart adjusted to be better centered.
Collar plate corners just a hair inside the chest plate corners. Fit of plates is comfortable, no real interference with my arm motion.
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I'll be putting my proper photos in for Pre-App for official review. In the meantime, I welcome constructive feedback from everyone.
Title: Re: Build Log / WIP: Body Armor
Post by: Vercopaanir on Feb 21, 2022, 08:56 PM
Very nice!  Looks like you got everything.

My only observation is that the chain for the trophies/mementos looks a bit more shiny then everything else around it. 

Really good job!  :<3:
Title: Re: Build Log / WIP: Body Armor
Post by: polishvendetta on Feb 21, 2022, 10:12 PM
That is a really nice looking kit!
Title: Re: Build Log / WIP: Body Armor
Post by: Cattriss Wren on Feb 22, 2022, 07:40 AM
Amazing work!!! :like: Good luck with your application!! I hope you get in :porg2:
Title: Re: Build Log / WIP: Body Armor
Post by: Jacen_Katarr on Feb 22, 2022, 02:07 PM
Gorgeous. Very nice work
Title: Re: Build Log / WIP: Body Armor
Post by: Aster Veris on Feb 23, 2022, 11:32 AM
Looking nice, I'd say some soft parts may need more weathering. Your cape, kama, and vest look super good but I think your flightsuit, girth belt, and maybe belt pouches too need some more weathering to be consistent.
Title: Re: Build Log / WIP: Body Armor
Post by: Second Son on Feb 23, 2022, 01:14 PM
Thank you all for the positive vibes, folks. It keeps my energy up. I'm getting excited about being close to submitting my official application.

Looking nice, I'd say some soft parts may need more weathering. Your cape, kama, and vest look super good but I think your flightsuit, girth belt, and maybe belt pouches too need some more weathering to be consistent.
Very nice!  Looks like you got everything.

My only observation is that the chain for the trophies/mementos looks a bit more shiny then everything else around it. 

Really good job!  :<3:

 I'd been most focused on getting my boots, vest, kama and cape more dirty and beaten, figuring that the outermost layers like that are going to get the most wear, mud, and damage. Clearly that effort has paid off! 
I see your point about the rest of the soft kit, Aster. I spent some time working  washes into the seams, top-stiching, and quilting channels on my flight suit and girth belt, but it's hard to see in the photographs so it may simply be too under-done & subtle to really POP like it should to match my armor.
I can always add more Space Grime in some broader areas but I've been trying to avoid 'leopard spots' of mud and such.  I've been working it layer by layer, trying to work up to the line and not hop overboard all at once, which I kinda did with my plates- it's less easy to take it off once it's on...

  I'll hold back till my pre-app#2 notes return, but I expect similar feedback. It was one of the major points to address in my first round's notes, and soft goods weathering is what I've had the most trouble getting right (so far).

I am hesitant to add excess grime to the trophy chain, it seems like the sort of thing that'll get a bit of polish and care to maximize the 'bling' factor. A quick brown-wash will get in the recesses without making the high points too dull. I'll hit it if the pre-app#2 review notes make a big deal of it.

Solid feedback, thanks vode.
Title: Re: Build Log / WIP: Body Armor
Post by: Aster Veris on Feb 24, 2022, 02:33 AM
I totally understand what you mean, but if your plates are heavily damaged then your soft parts have to be as well. Weathering consistency is super important!
I can see a little bit of grime in the photos, you definitely did a nice job with some small weathering but I believe it's got to be more to meet the level of your plates and other more heavily weathered soft parts. To avoid "leopard spots" I personally go over all of my flightsuit with dry brush paint. You'll get some heavier spots and some lighter spots, and it will be random. Also do more weathering on the seams, bottoms of arms/legs, around plates, etc. You did a wonderful job on your flack vest, just repeat that!
Title: Re: Build Log / WIP: Body Armor
Post by: Fenn Beviin on Feb 24, 2022, 11:12 AM
I totally understand what you mean, but if your plates are heavily damaged then your soft parts have to be as well. Weathering consistency is super important!
I can see a little bit of grime in the photos, you definitely did a nice job with some small weathering but I believe it's got to be more to meet the level of your plates and other more heavily weathered soft parts. To avoid "leopard spots" I personally go over all of my flightsuit with dry brush paint. You'll get some heavier spots and some lighter spots, and it will be random. Also do more weathering on the seams, bottoms of arms/legs, around plates, etc. You did a wonderful job on your flack vest, just repeat that!

The kit in it's entirety is looking great man!

I agree with the above. The flight suit isn't as weathered as your flak vest as it is now. Your chest plates and flak vest are more weathered than the sleeves of the flight suit. Add a little more around the seems and above the gauntlets and that should cover it.

As for the lower body stuff, your shin plates are more heavily weathered than your chest armor. The lower body weathering will need to bumped up to match that as well. The bright tan on the back of your calves is a pretty stark contrast to the very weathered shin armor.

For the trophies - you may just need to grey/black/brown mist some paint overtop of the chains to tone the shine down there and you might be fine there.

Really love how this looks all together man and that cape/cloak is great.
Title: Re: Build Log / WIP: Body Armor
Post by: Aster Veris on Feb 24, 2022, 03:16 PM
As for the lower body stuff, your shin plates are more heavily weathered than your chest armor. The lower body weathering will need to bumped up to match that as well. The bright tan on the back of your calves is a pretty stark contrast to the very weathered shin armor.

For the trophies - you may just need to grey/black/brown mist some paint overtop of the chains to tone the shine down there and you might be fine there.

Agree but I think that's due to kneeling/falling/etc, lower plates would logically have different weathering than chest plates. Chest plates are to protect your organs from shots, stabs, and any other threats, while lower body armor is constantly being banged around due to being a mobile bounty hunter. Personally I think the plate damage is good as is, but 100% agree that the plate weathering and soft parts weathering don't add up. If your shin plates are so damaged, that damage should show on the flightsuit too.
Title: Re: Build Log / WIP: Body Armor
Post by: Second Son on Mar 25, 2022, 03:30 PM
I'm loving the feedback, sorry I'm slow replying - and Iíd ask for your thoughts on the latest push to accomplish the goal of MOAR WEATHERING, in the context of the kit concept, which has evolved considerably since day 1.
I envision this Mando as spending less time tracking planetside and more time "politely convincing" folks to turn over cargo, since Mandalore will put it to better use. So the operating environment will have sweat, space dust, kneeling and rolling on metal decks, being scraped along walls, headbutted and thrown against bulkheads by angry Wookiees, blaster fire, getting stabbed (with repairs over the stained area of the flightsuit) and very occaisionally slapped with a Space Wizard's glow stick - I tried to catch that flavor with more rip / burn / scorch / blaster hole type damage on my kama and cape, with a bit of muddy brown at the bottom edges and hanging around on the boots. My armor plates, I think, convey repeated heavy beatings and getting shot at. A lot.

Seeing as Iím likely to receive similar feedback from pre-app round 2 (which I'm still waiting on - they must be swamped right now), hereís what Iíve done in the interim. My photographer was a bit distracted so I need to retake these all anyway. looking back with a critical eye: the usual notes I have for myself, i.e. dress more carefully, stand up tall, keep my feet pointed at the camera etc.

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Front

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Right

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Left

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Back

DETAIL SHOTS
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Legs, front & rear

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Upper body, sleeves and gauntlets - I added a little patched 'cut' on my right arm like I did to my left thigh.

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Pouches, for collecting things during "Enhanced Requisitions"

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(arguably)The Best Cape in the Galaxytm

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I'm really just proud of how this buckle turned out.

Constructive feedback is always welcome.
Title: Re: Build Log / WIP: Body Armor
Post by: Karl Dha'Werda on Mar 31, 2022, 12:04 PM
Wow!  Commenting so I can come back with a bigger screen and look at this build for suggestions.  Love the metal work.
Title: Re: Build Log / WIP: Body Armor
Post by: Fenn Beviin on Apr 07, 2022, 10:53 AM
Personally, I think you may be ready to app in!  :like:

I'm sharing your thread in a Ruus chat to get more eyes on this.
Title: Re: Build Log / WIP: Body Armor
Post by: Second Son on Apr 07, 2022, 01:03 PM
Wow!  Commenting so I can come back with a bigger screen and look at this build for suggestions.  Love the metal work.
Vod, thank you! That is very encouraging.


Personally, I think you may be ready to app in!  :like:

I'm sharing your thread in a Ruus chat to get more eyes on this.

These two sentences are a source of great joy for me. I think I know what I'm doing with my Saturday afternoon.

Title: Re: Build Log / WIP: Body Armor
Post by: Second Son on Apr 10, 2022, 07:15 PM
Well, Sunday. Wish me luck!

MOM SAYS I'M HANDSOME
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Pro tip - do your bucket off photo first so you don't have extreme helmet hair

FRONT
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51995835838_3a5afd624b_o.jpg)

RIGHT
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51996319340_6867fdd9d7_o.jpg)

LEFT
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51995836383_a1e3c14aaf_o.jpg)

BACK
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51995836728_3df027bcf6_o.jpg)

GUNZ
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51996049939_8d00be4215_o.jpg)
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51996320650_6782833f7c_o.jpg)

I like to live dangerously so I added an OPTIONAL PIC
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51995876598_a3e2dab894_o.jpg)

Not Submitted, but behold the Majestic Belt Buckle
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51995880588_53e7c9df23_o.jpg)

Now I'mma start working on some upgrade stuff to distract myself from being anxious about this. Some may make it onto this kit, others may get used on future kits.
Title: Re: Build Log / WIP: Body Armor
Post by: Vercopaanir on Apr 12, 2022, 07:19 PM
Good Luck Vod!!! The kit is fabulous!
Title: Re: Build Log / WIP: Body Armor
Post by: Aster Veris on Apr 12, 2022, 08:50 PM
Best of luck vod!
Title: Re: Build Log / WIP: Body Armor
Post by: Second Son on Apr 12, 2022, 09:07 PM
Best of luck vod!
Good Luck Vod!!! The kit is fabulous!

Thanks vode - I know it's only been like 50 hours but I am absolutley vibrating with anticipation. Gonna go make 10,000 accessories and maybe even do my actual job to distract myself.
Title: Re: Build Log / WIP: Body Armor
Post by: Second Son on Apr 22, 2022, 10:40 PM
Fix list received - no big surprise that I need MOAR WEATHERING.


Fix List:
-Flightsuit, girth belt, ammo belt, and strapping on the costume appear to be under weathered and could use some additional weathering to be consistent.
-The holes in the backplate need some sort of backing since you are not currently applying with a JP. If you intend to add a JP later, simply back them with an approvable material that is easy to take off for when you have a JP completed.

Suggestions:
-Take extra care when dressing to ensure that your backplate is as close to your body as possible (it looks like it is floating at the bottom but that could just be your stance) and that your flak vest doesn't overlap your girth belt in the back (perhaps tuck it a bit).

All told, not bad. I'm in the process of making my upgrades, should have new pics within a week.
Title: Re: Build Log / WIP: Body Armor
Post by: Second Son on Apr 24, 2022, 11:13 PM
Round 2 pics. We'll see how I did in 2 to 4 weeks! Again!
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Rnd_2_Application_Kit_Up/2022-04-24-01.jpg)
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Rnd_2_Application_Kit_Up/2022-04-24-02.JPG)
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Rnd_2_Application_Kit_Up/2022-04-24-03.JPG)
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Rnd_2_Application_Kit_Up/2022-04-24-04.JPG)
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Rnd_2_Application_Kit_Up/blaster-02.JPG)
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Rnd_2_Application_Kit_Up/blaster-01.JPG)

Additional weathering shots, for fun.
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Rnd_2_Application_Kit_Up/IMG_3990.JPG)
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Rnd_2_Application_Kit_Up/IMG_3992.JPG)
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Rnd_2_Application_Kit_Up/IMG_3995.JPG)
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Rnd_2_Application_Kit_Up/IMG_3997.JPG)
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Rnd_2_Application_Kit_Up/IMG_4004.JPG)

And I did another layer sequence to track how it all goes together.
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Rnd_2_Application_Kit_Up/IMG_3904.JPG)
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Rnd_2_Application_Kit_Up/IMG_3905.JPG)
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Rnd_2_Application_Kit_Up/IMG_3908.JPG)
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Rnd_2_Application_Kit_Up/IMG_3912.JPG)
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Rnd_2_Application_Kit_Up/IMG_3915.JPG)
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Rnd_2_Application_Kit_Up/IMG_3917.JPG)
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Rnd_2_Application_Kit_Up/2022-04-24-05.JPG)
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Rnd_2_Application_Kit_Up/IMG_3936.JPG)

OK, back to making 10,000 acessories to keep me distracted.
Title: Re: Build Log / WIP: Body Armor
Post by: Kurshi BeJahaal on Apr 25, 2022, 02:35 PM
I haven't been keeping up on this thread and it has sat on the back burner for me to check in on.

I had no idea you'd be ready for apps!

Outstanding work dude. It just goes to show how much can get done when you're motivated. I'm hoping for good news for you!
Title: Re: Build Log / WIP: Body Armor
Post by: Second Son on Apr 25, 2022, 03:15 PM
I haven't been keeping up on this thread and it has sat on the back burner for me to check in on.

I had no idea you'd be ready for apps!

Outstanding work dude. It just goes to show how much can get done when you're motivated. I'm hoping for good news for you!

Not gonna lie, I'm hoping for good news too! Thanks for the encouragement and positive vibes vod.
Title: Re: Build Log / WIP: Body Armor
Post by: Cattriss Wren on Apr 25, 2022, 05:38 PM
Good luck vode!!! I hope you get in :like:
Title: Re: Build Log / WIP: Body Armor
Post by: Second Son on Apr 27, 2022, 08:48 PM
The secret ingredient was MOAR WEATHERING.

(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Second_Son_V2_Wip/approval.JPG)

Now to keep making those 10,000 acessories cuz I think I wanna be a space pirate Privateer too.
Title: Re: Build Log / WIP: Body Armor
Post by: Cattriss Wren on Apr 27, 2022, 09:00 PM
Yay!!  :porg2: congratulations!
Title: Re: Build Log / WIP: Body Armor
Post by: Vercopaanir on Apr 28, 2022, 10:51 AM
Congratulations Vod!!!  You've done an excellent job with this kit.  :<3:
Title: Re: Build Log / WIP: Body Armor
Post by: Karl Dha'Werda on May 04, 2022, 07:34 AM
Congrats on the stripes Vod!!
Title: Re: Build Log / WIP: Body Armor
Post by: Second Son on May 04, 2022, 07:30 PM
Yay!!  :porg2: congratulations!
Congratulations Vod!!!  You've done an excellent job with this kit.  :<3:
Congrats on the stripes Vod!!
Thanks Vode, I got my number as an early May The Fourth present.

AND NOW, IT'S SPACE PIRATE TIME!
Current Accessories:
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Accessory_Log/IMG_4070.JPG)
some of these may be pulling double duty later...
1. Twin Westar-35 style blasters with custom-tooled holsters (OM equipment)
2. Customized Bullpup Westar Carbine variant in progress; needs a sling
3. Westar-inspired snub pistols, made and in need of holsters (https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/index.php?topic=207206)

4. Combat knife (tried to make it look like a sharpened block of Durasteel)
5. pair throwing knives
6. blaster reloads - "universal" for all my Westar inspired blasters. 8 finished, need at least 2 more because of reasons
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Accessory_Log/IMG_4037.JPG)
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Accessory_Log/IMG_4038.JPG)
7. Pry Bar and Fusion cutter to meet breaching tool requirements
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Accessory_Log/IMG_4051.JPG)


Jetpack is in progress (https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/index.php?topic=215448.msg2306486#msg2306486)
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Accessory_Log/IMG_3887.JPG)

Jet boots are getting made as well:
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Accessory_Log/IMG_4043.JPG)
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Accessory_Log/IMG_4044.JPG)

So lots of stuff going on at Casa de Second Son. I've gotten a new assignment at work that'll have me travelling regularly so updates will be sporadic - but I'm looking to run a marathon here and enjoy the process along the way.
Title: Re: Build Log / WIP: Body Armor
Post by: EricL on May 04, 2022, 08:51 PM
Sharpened Block Oí Durasteel (tm) looks pretty sweet, very characterful for an original Mando. I keep returning to the idea of jet boots myself. That framework for them is fantastic! Did I miss what itís made of/from? Sure looks like metal to me.
Title: Re: Build Log / WIP: Body Armor
Post by: Second Son on May 04, 2022, 09:32 PM
Sharpened Block Oí Durasteel (tm) looks pretty sweet, very characterful for an original Mando. I keep returning to the idea of jet boots myself. That framework for them is fantastic! Did I miss what itís made of/from? Sure looks like metal to me.

Thanks! I do like my Sharpened Block Oí Durasteel (tm) brand cutting thing.
I'm on the fence between naming it Stabby (short for Stab-itha), or Stabby (short for Stab-igail).

The jet boot base plate is sheet aluminum; I took the template for my shins, shortened the top, and modified them to accept the little box shape (including big access hole in case I add anything electric in there. - I designed the boxes as a componenet for integrated jump jets for a back plate, which I scrapped in favor of a true jetpack.
Title: Re: Build Log / WIP: Body Armor
Post by: Aster Veris on May 11, 2022, 12:32 AM
Brigades stuff looks awesome! Great work as always  :like:
Title: Re: Build Log / WIP: Body Armor
Post by: Second Son on May 20, 2022, 06:38 PM
I gave myself a little reward - I'd been holding off putting stripes on my helmet until I got OM.
I painted them by hand in acrylic (I did mask off the rectangles) to make them seem rougher, more field applied - I wasn't 100% at first.
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Bukkit/IMG_4164.JPG)
Super Neon.  But then I added washes of Umber and Brown, and I'm satisfied with how they have turned out now.
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Bukkit/IMG_4175.JPG)


Also, I worked some on my jet boots. I think they are at about 90%.  I found some perfect plumbing fittings - 1/2" to 1" copper reducers - to make some nozzles.  I torched them for a bit for some Very Real heat discoloration, bolted them to the plates, and mounted the boxes permanently. 
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Accessory_Log/IMG_4159.JPG)
And, of course, Danger Stripes.
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Accessory_Log/IMG_4191.JPG)
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Accessory_Log/IMG_4193.JPG)
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Accessory_Log/IMG_4195.JPG)
Next up for this upgrade project: I need to add some paint chipping/wear and tear with physical damage and add a bunch of space grime to bring the level of weathering into alignment.
I may re-work the straps to work a little better but they function for now.
I think I will make a knife sheath and thread the shin/calf armor straps through loops on the back of the sheath to keep my big knife ready for action.
I'm considering some heel plates, leaving them bare aluminum but torch-coloring them for The Look.
Title: Re: Build Log / WIP: Body Armor
Post by: Vercopaanir on May 22, 2022, 05:42 PM
I like that rocket boot design!    I also complete agree with the kill stripes, the weathering made them perfect!!!
Title: Re: Build Log / WIP: ongoing, never really Finished...
Post by: Second Son on Jun 17, 2022, 04:42 PM
So I got to do my first invasion as an OM, and it was also an official LFL-sponsored event so big energy.  Our sibling groups had presence there too, so I got to hang with some Rebel Legion, 501st, Astromech Builders, and Dark Empire folks. Everyone was awesome and we had a great time tag-teaming the crowd. I got assigned to be a Mysterious Cool Space Dude with a 501st Boba - so we were basically mobbed by kids and adults the entire time we were out because everyone loves Boba Fett. As usual when I'm suited up, I was having so much fun Mando-ing about that I got basically one picture for myself.
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Invasion_Pics/IMG_4435-clip.jpg)

We had Jawas with us, and as soon as we posted up they scooted off and caused Jawa Chaostm - I wish I had good pics but they were working the crowd and it was awesome.

After my shift was done I took a little time to watch some sportsball.
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Invasion_Pics/IMG_4436.JPG)

Happy Blue Mando (but tired! and hot!)
(https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/images/members/53647/Invasion_Pics/IMG_4433.JPG)

I'm going to do this as many more times as I am physically capable of doing it - the kids' excitement and the unfiltered joy of adults that grew up on Star Wars like I did is pure happy brain chemicals.
Title: Re: Build Log / WIP: ongoing, never really Finished...
Post by: Cattriss Wren on Jun 18, 2022, 10:29 AM
That's looks like so much fun!! :porg2: can't wait till I can troop!
Title: Re: Build Log / WIP: ongoing, never really Finished...
Post by: Vercopaanir on Jun 18, 2022, 05:57 PM
I'm going to do this as many more times as I am physically capable of doing it - the kids' excitement and the unfiltered joy of adults that grew up on Star Wars like I did is pure happy brain chemicals.

It's addicting.   :D 

Looks like you had fun!
Title: Re: Build Log / WIP: ongoing, never really Finished...
Post by: Fenn Beviin on Jun 29, 2022, 01:51 PM
Looking good next to that Boba!

Kit is looking great  :like: