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Mandalorian Armor => Armor Concepts => Topic started by: Mar'eyce on Jan 28, 2010, 06:24 PM

Title: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Mar'eyce on Jan 28, 2010, 06:24 PM
Contrary to popular belief, it is indeed possible to build a great-looking kit that meets our costuming standards without spending a lot of money. In fact, I'm willing to go as far as saying it can be done for under $150, possibly for as little as $100.

Yes, I'm serious. And I'm going to prove it.

I will be collaborating with Pinocchio on this project, and between us we will demonstrate how you can put together a whole, quality kit including armor, soft parts and helmet for super cheap. And I might add...there will be no cardboard, sports armor, or other questionable materials used.

So let's get started, shall we?

If you have never gone thrifting, now is the time to start. Thrift stores and garage sales are your friend! This is where you can find what you need for your soft parts and weapons/greeblies/other cool things. You have to be patient and consistent; go every week or more! You will find treasures.

On my first thrift store trip for this project, I hit gold. A gently used USAF flightsuit for $12.99! OK, so I got lucky. But if you are consistent in your search, you will find something just as nice. Looky:

(http://i539.photobucket.com/albums/ff352/nolasomething/Costuming%20WIPs/IMG_2523.jpg)

Now on to the most important part of the build: your armor.

Walmart has silver-grey, 18 gallon plastic totes for cheap. I bought two of them for $4.00 each, and this will be enough to make a light(Boba-style) set of armor. We will even get knees, gaunts and a backplate from the totes and the lids that came with them.

(http://i539.photobucket.com/albums/ff352/nolasomething/Costuming%20WIPs/IMG_2524.jpg)

You can find the WoF templates for armor on the templates/tutorials page of this site. I printed them up and cut them out, then traced them onto the tote with a Sharpie. Easy stuff. Now I confess, I like to use a Dremel to cut out plates. But I will assume you may not have access to power tools, and for the sake of not adding potential expenses, I'm cutting them out the old fashioned way: with a pair of cheap snips.

(http://i539.photobucket.com/albums/ff352/nolasomething/Costuming%20WIPs/IMG_2526.jpg)

(http://i539.photobucket.com/albums/ff352/nolasomething/Costuming%20WIPs/IMG_2532.jpg)

Because of the shape of the tote, I could not fit the chest and ab plates on one side. But that's OK! I am already thinking about how to make knees from those funky rounded corners. :)

The next step after cutting out the armor will be sanding the edges and shaping the plates. No heat gun you say? We'll be baking them in the oven.

So far my total for expenses is: $21.00

$12.99 for a flightsuit
$8.00 for plastic armor


Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Hondo Karr on Jan 28, 2010, 06:35 PM
This is going to be an awesome reference! I can't wait to see it come to fruition! I'll make sure I link this to new forum members with questions.
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: pinocchio on Jan 28, 2010, 07:01 PM
Ok, time to chime in, I have already provided a Helmet for this build, a 27 dollar Jango 2 piece that is already in bondo, there are additional mods done to these helmets that add no significant cost other than a bit of 5 minute epoxy, which you should have, and bondo, you should have that too, and a piece of scrap metal to cut out an ear stalk with either a saw or if you are patient a dremel and file.  I cut mine out of scrap metal on a a band saw and hand sanded into shape but a dremel will do the job, or if really broke a hack saw, I aso intend to supply the gauntlets made out of the same tote material Mar'eyce is using, paint will be wal mart brand spray paint, the 2.00 a can stuff. 

so with the helmet 48.00 whole dollars.
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Synnr Falco on Jan 28, 2010, 07:19 PM

Looking forward to seeing this develop. Are you set with gun props?  I am starting my $12 blaster rifle this weekend
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: pinocchio on Jan 28, 2010, 11:16 PM
we'll come up with something weapon wise, while nothing is a sure thing we're quite confident in our abilities to pull this off, my current bucket is of the 27.00 variety so it is all in how you do it, and a paint job like this only takes a few days to pull off with drying times, and considering it takes about 3 bucks worth of k mart craft paint to weather everything, not too many worries, I want the gauntlets to be dirt cheap and hella' cool.

(http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t242/pinocchio665/Picture010.jpg)

and I will go over how to gut the cheesy rubies ear pieces and reinforce em' to move things into the non sucky category.

(http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t242/pinocchio665/hel001.jpg)
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: GreatSkyRiver Falco on Jan 28, 2010, 11:53 PM
that helmet is hella cool!!
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Dar'manda on Jan 28, 2010, 11:53 PM
That's nice, but the sad thing is, for people like me, it doesn't work. I've yet to find a retailer who has a 2x-3x flightsuit, even on ebay, for under $40. And a two piece is not the best fit. But, in the end, you can scratchbuild for nearly the same price. And there are coverall patterns for about $14, and fabric can be had usually for $20 or less... So, it comes out to just a bit more.

Just throwing out my own issues. I know my little sisters kit will end up following these, she's paying for it with a babysitting job!
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Ha'sid on Jan 29, 2010, 12:20 AM
I payed 50$ for my black 4x flight suit 2 years ago and when I looked I couldent find anything except this one.

So for some getting a 4x to a 5x suit look into spending a few more bones than the next guy.
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Hondo Karr on Jan 29, 2010, 12:29 AM
well, there's always circumstances that vary for individuals. but, the point of this thread is a general look wha can be done for cheap. it's not going to be a one size fits all but should fit most, especially with the recent influx, and 'm sure more coming soon, of new forum members looking to build a nice kit on a budget in tough ecomonic times.

that being said, it really doesn't matter how big or how small you are, if you're willing to put the tim in searching second hand shops, thift stores, yard sales and used military surplus stores, you can find all of your needed soft goods for very very low prices. with the exception of the mil surplus stores, the other places are generally negotiable in price as well as long as ou don't try to undercut them.
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: GreatSkyRiver Falco on Jan 29, 2010, 12:45 AM
i use an extra set of navy blue BDU's from my job ,couldnt afford  $40 flightsuit from the army navy.
 store.
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Corran Falco on Jan 29, 2010, 12:55 AM
I am looking forward to seeing the gaunts that come out of this project personally
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Dar'manda on Jan 29, 2010, 12:58 AM
my old man sells flightsuits for like $24

I'm going to laugh my a** off when I see this suit completed and official membership-worthy

keep it up you two
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Mar'eyce on Jan 29, 2010, 05:58 AM
For weapons, I have been thinking of a couple of things. Thrift stores and garage sales have toy guns that can be easily modified, and there are some cool looking water pistols that can be painted up for a sidearm.

And I'll be paying close attention to the helmet earcaps tutorial. I want a non-sucky bucket for my next kit. :)



my old man sells flightsuits for like $24

I'm going to laugh my a** off when I see this suit completed and official membership-worthy

keep it up you two

I'm thinking that once the build is finished, to put it up for public critique by the rest of the approval team and the council.


Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Ver'ta Mdej on Jan 29, 2010, 11:18 AM
This is AWESOME.  :D

And I'm mostly just replying to be able to be lazy about keeping up with it. Because I want to!

Can I make a cheep suggestion for gaunts, in case it is needed? My gaunts were made of empty mint boxes, sintra scraps,  glue, a discarded nerf gun sight, pieces from a kids "chat" set,  and a four-pack of plastic juice tumblers from the dollar store. Oh, and a bit of fabric and a closure strap for each, plus paint and the little bit of filler I used. I think they cost us 10 dollars to make, total, and most of that is the paint, nerf gun sight and the kids' chat set. You can see them unpainted, here (http://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/index.php?topic=6783.msg99612), if you scroll down.
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: GreatSkyRiver Falco on Jan 29, 2010, 11:29 AM
i'd also like to see that ear fix method as my dome only fits the 2- pc.
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: No'saj Huune on Jan 29, 2010, 12:45 PM
i'd also like to see that ear fix method as my dome only fits the 2- pc.

Agreed, thats whats holding up my W.I.P.  since they look like poodoo.
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Riya Morut on Jan 29, 2010, 01:09 PM
Can't wait to see the rest of this!
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Me'tiir Or'los on Jan 29, 2010, 07:13 PM
wow!..im gonna wait to make my set..this is awesome
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Me'tiir Or'los on Jan 30, 2010, 02:55 AM
is this hard to move? like bending into the right shape?
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Mar'eyce on Jan 30, 2010, 08:22 AM
is this hard to move? like bending into the right shape?

You mean the tote plastic?

To bend it, you really need to use a heat gun or bake it in the oven. Otherwise it could break. I learned that the hard way while attempting to make a backplate for my first kit. It was all painted and everything, and I decided to try to do a little more shaping without warming it up, and....snap! Right down the middle.

But if you heat the plastic, it will bend. Not as easily as sintra, but enough to be able to work with.

An advantage to using these totes besides the low price, is that they are silvery grey in colour. That makes weathering easy...you can scrape of paint or use the toothpaste method. The plastic that shows through looks like metal.

When you have plastic armor,  paint will occasionally chip. But instead of having to carry around a silver sharpie to every troop, you can call it battle damage and be done with it.

Today I plan to sand and shape the plates, so pics will be up tonight.



Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Mar'eyce on Jan 30, 2010, 09:08 PM
So here is what I have finished so far. Today I finished cutting out and sanding the torso and shoulder armor. Right now it's still flat, but I will shape the plates by heating them in the oven.

(http://i539.photobucket.com/albums/ff352/nolasomething/Costuming%20WIPs/IMG_2535.jpg)

Next, I will cut up the second tote to get a codpiece, backplate, and knees. I may not be able to get a full, Fett style backplate because of the size of the totes, so I may do a segmented version instead. I'll have to see how it works up.
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Me'tiir Or'los on Jan 30, 2010, 09:22 PM
very nice! cant wait to see the rest! ;D

and somethign i've always wondered, how come its white now? is that a result of the sanding? is this a stupid question? :D
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Mar'eyce on Jan 30, 2010, 09:41 PM
The sanding does make it appear a little lighter, but mostly it is because I used a flash when I took the pictures. The plastic is still a silver grey colour.
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: GreatSkyRiver Falco on Jan 30, 2010, 09:41 PM
reflection...silver-grey color right?
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: GreatSkyRiver Falco on Jan 30, 2010, 09:42 PM
nevermind. :D
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Me'tiir Or'los on Jan 30, 2010, 10:01 PM
lol...okay i feel better now :D
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: kazuma_wuken on Jan 31, 2010, 10:47 PM
Thanks for the tips .
I'm to use it to make first Mando Suit. ;D
The only thing I need now is a good color scheme and a helmet.
Any ideas for that ?
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Mar'eyce on Feb 01, 2010, 07:12 AM
For a helmet we will be using the 2 piece Jango Fett helmet made by Rubies. It's very affordable, and with some work it can be made to look really good. Pinocchio will be doing a tutorial, including how to mod the earcaps to be more accurate.

The issue with that particular helmet is size; it would work for someone with a small or medium build but if you are bigger, you will need a bigger bucket.

A'den Skirata posted a very useful thread that shows the different sizes of some available helmets and how they look:

http://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/index.php?topic=13291.0

If the rubies is too small and you can't afford a fan-made 1:1 helmet, scracthbuilding is another option.

When it comes to colour schemes, the choice is entirely up to you. If you look around the forums you will see a variety of colours, including several kits with similar schemes. I like to be different myself! My current armor is dark burgundy with blue around the helmet visor(as a tribute to Jango), with black cheeks and Jaig eyes.  I have black tribal designs on the chest plates, a blue kama, grey flightsuit and black vest. I know it sounds funky but it works. 

The point is, be original.  That's the fun part of custom costuming, you have the opportunity to build a kit that is uniquely you. :)

Keep in mind, when I say original,  it still needs to be in-universe and believable. You will want to look like you could have come from one of the movies, comics, or EU novels.
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: pinocchio on Feb 01, 2010, 07:26 AM

the big thing with these helmets is taking the blue piece of cheap plastic on the left and making it a 2 piece like the middle pair
(http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t242/pinocchio665/hel001.jpg)


And I was at wal mart and their spray paint is 0.96 a can.
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Kebii'tra Verda on Feb 01, 2010, 09:00 AM
Wow. I never thought to use the larger totes. That's going to make a big difference!

David.
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Me'tiir Or'los on Feb 01, 2010, 09:57 AM
okay i just realized something that i should know before i start working on this, what temperature do you put it in the oven for?cause that seems like a important question...

kazuma_wuken
there is a wookiepedia page that shows colors and what they mean for Mandlaorian armor.
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Mar'eyce on Feb 01, 2010, 10:12 AM
I set it for 225 fahrenheit, and leave the armor in for 10 minutes. To set the shape while bending the plates, I dip them into a bucket of cold water.
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Synnr Falco on Feb 01, 2010, 10:14 AM

I do 300 for 2 minutes myself.  I find the totes to be more heat resistant then the 3mm sintra though.  So it may have been more then 2 minutes to get it flexible enough to shape easily.
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Dar'manda on Feb 01, 2010, 10:16 AM
And Pinoc, where are you finding this paint, any chance of a pic? I can't find any of these cans local, and am thinking i'm just over-looking them.
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Synnr Falco on Feb 01, 2010, 10:17 AM

I stick pretty exclusively to the Krylon or Rustoleum paints. The one attempt I had made with cheaper paint didn't work out to well.  I'd love a cheap solution with a wide variety of color choices.
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: GreatSkyRiver Falco on Feb 01, 2010, 11:11 AM
As long as the totes are not made of polyethylene, any "made for plastic" should do( like Krylon fusion).polyethylene is notoriously hard for any paint or glue to stick to.
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Hondo Karr on Feb 01, 2010, 01:00 PM
STAY AWAY FROM FUSION PAINTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Seriously, this is something that has been discussed to death on these forums. They are the WORST possible paint you can use on your armor. The wasy Fusion paint is designed to work, it doesn't need or work with primer. Also, you cannot paint on top of it, even with other Fusion paints. If you use primer, if you do layered weathering, if you add stripes, tribls or sigils to your armor, you WILL get paint lifting and cracking if you use Fusion paints.
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: GreatSkyRiver Falco on Feb 01, 2010, 01:20 PM
STAY AWAY FROM FUSION PAINTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Seriously, this is something that has been discussed to death on these forums. They are the WORST possible paint you can use on your armor. The wasy Fusion paint is designed to work, it doesn't need or work with primer. Also, you cannot paint on top of it, even with other Fusion paints. If you use primer, if you do layered weathering, if you add stripes, tribls or sigils to your armor, you WILL get paint lifting and cracking if you use Fusion paints.
that was just an example, i actually use rust-o-leum for plastic (hammered ). seems to be ok
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Mar'eyce on Feb 01, 2010, 01:32 PM
STAY AWAY FROM FUSION PAINTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Seriously, this is something that has been discussed to death on these forums. They are the WORST possible paint you can use on your armor. The wasy Fusion paint is designed to work, it doesn't need or work with primer. Also, you cannot paint on top of it, even with other Fusion paints. If you use primer, if you do layered weathering, if you add stripes, tribls or sigils to your armor, you WILL get paint lifting and cracking if you use Fusion paints.

Amen to that. I have made the mistake of trying to layer non-Krylon paint over fusion and it made a terrible mess that ended with me having to sand the plates and start over. .  >:(


And Pinoc, where are you finding this paint, any chance of a pic? I can't find any of these cans local, and am thinking i'm just over-looking them.

I think he means the "generic" rattle cans from Wal Mart. I used them to paint my little Boba's kit, and although the colours are not screen accurate, the paint has held up well.
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Kebii'tra Verda on Feb 01, 2010, 01:37 PM
STAY AWAY FROM FUSION PAINTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Seriously, this is something that has been discussed to death on these forums. They are the WORST possible paint you can use on your armor. The way Fusion paint is designed to work, it doesn't need or work with primer. Also, you cannot paint on top of it, even with other Fusion paints. If you use primer, if you do layered weathering, if you add stripes, tribls or sigils to your armor, you WILL get paint lifting and cracking if you use Fusion paints.

I guess I must be the only person who hasn't had any problems with Fusion. It's my paint of choice for a base coat over the plastic, then I use other paints on top of that without any problems.

I guess I'm just lucky. ;)

David.
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: GreatSkyRiver Falco on Feb 01, 2010, 01:46 PM
for some reason rust-o-leum primer for plastic gives me problems, it seems very dry, even days later but when i put any other color it suddenly gets tacky and no matter how long it dries it will come off if you rub your finger on it, so i had to do the re-sand and paint and curse my bad luck also .
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Dar'manda on Feb 01, 2010, 02:43 PM
Let's try to keep the chit chat to a minimum until after the tutuorial is finished so we don't have three pages of comments between each update.  Thanks!
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Mar'eyce on Feb 19, 2010, 07:48 AM
I know it has been a while since my last post, but I just wanted to let everyone know we are still working on this project. I have had to put it on temporary hold so I can catch up on sewing commissions; I have gotten behind on orders and I don't want my fellow costumers to start showing up at my door with torches and pitchforks.

My next day off from work, I will finish the knees and cod, and get started on the backplate. I've decided to do a segmented backplate for this kit since I have the smaller totes.

List of things I need to find at thrift stores(as soon as I get paid again, lol):

Boots- Men's work or combat style boots,  for which I will make armor plates and spats to cover the laces.

Vest- I'm going to try to do a vest with as little sewing as possible, since I realize that most people are not sewists(Just can't bring myself to type 'sewers').

Belt and pouches- Any old belt should do, and I'm probably going to pick up a few pouches from Suzy's Surplus on eBay.


Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: No'saj Huune on Feb 19, 2010, 01:47 PM
I'll be starting on the project today for my 10yr old who wants Death Watch-esque armor.  I want to thank everyone for the input on this thread it's helped me a lot  ;D
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Hondo Karr on Mar 05, 2010, 12:10 AM
hey guys, i know you've both been busy but, it's been about 2 weeks without updates and i'm sure people are wanting more! any updates?
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: pinocchio on Mar 05, 2010, 07:24 AM
sorry A'den, back on the long six day work weeks, will try to start modding the ear caps when I get home tomorrow.
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Mar'eyce on Mar 05, 2010, 07:47 AM
Same here; I have been working extra days and trying to catch up on commissions in my "free" time. I'll get back on that armor today.
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Vaaj Isma'il on Mar 21, 2010, 09:46 PM
This is great, I'll definitely refer to this whenever it comes time to build my suit  :)
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Beviin Atin Eparavu on Mar 23, 2010, 12:13 PM
Great thread! I dont spose you guys could include a kama in the build, for those who need a cheap one-- and have no idea how to make one!  ;D
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Mar'eyce on Mar 23, 2010, 12:32 PM
No problem. Kamas are easy to make and only take about a yard of fabric. I'm still on a bit of hiatus from this project, but once I get caught up on commissions, I'll be back in business. :)

Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Kora on Mar 26, 2010, 01:53 PM
As another cheapo type for kamas and capes, leather pants and skirts from Goodwill are awesome (depending on your local goodwill prices of course, mine back home were like $5 for the pants and skirts; one out here is about $8 and another out here is up to $18. . .guess which one I shop at lol). Leather pants were converted into my V2 (and now V1 as well) kit's kama; several skirts and pants (plus I believe a small jacket) were cut up and used to make my patchwork leather kama and cape for the beast master kit; and a leather skirt was used to make my brother's new kama.
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Beviin Atin Eparavu on Mar 26, 2010, 06:39 PM
I remember you saying that once XD what i was thinking was mroe in how to stitch one together, maybe some inside pockets; securing it to the belt... ect.
Still a good idea tho.
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: pinocchio on Apr 06, 2010, 10:32 PM
ok the helmet is in bondo, i just need to final sand and topcoat then will get the ear caps modded.  Forgive the delays of Darth real Life.
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Mirshe Baar'ur on Apr 08, 2010, 05:20 PM
Just wanted to add a hugh thank you.  My armor has offically moved from the planning stage, to the production stage.  You rock!
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Slade Kel on Apr 08, 2010, 07:48 PM
Wayii, this really is an excellent reference tool for a cheap and easy kit. Kandosii, burc'yase ;D.
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: pinocchio on Apr 22, 2010, 06:42 PM
ok the helmet is sanded down and got a good couple coats of paint on to wet sand for final body work so this can be top coated this weekend, off to wal mart to get the 5 bucks in paint.

spent 4.45 on white green grey and black paint.
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: pinocchio on Apr 24, 2010, 09:06 PM
double post bump time I guess, got the helmet for this project top coated, it is the one in white, the red is for my brother.  His right earcap has already long been modded and i'll be taking photos and doing the long awaited how to for that for the cheaper build.  One thing that may be a bit of a stretch for the "cheap" part of this is that I have already cut an RF stalk for this white buyce, BUT I am going to have more than enough scrap .125 carbon fiber plate left over to cut one for this project. Gotta think about that, even though it is leftovers may be getting too close to the 'stuff lying around' grey area.  Any thoughts?  I am finishing these buckets in parallel so the pictures may jump back and forth between the two.

And BTW the cheap paint from Wally Mart, while it will do the job it is mostly solvent, very little solid content, I am using it in the spirit of this build but technically it would probably cost less to just buy krylon as this stuff does not cover well as you are mostly spraying acetone, hence using more to cover less, thats why it is 96 cents a can.  So the lesson here is BUY A DECENT BRAND OF PAINT AS IT WILL COST ABOUT THE SAME IN THE LONG RUN, I prefer Valspar from lowes or Krylon for this stuff.  But I love a challenge so will use up my 4.45 in paint.


(http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t242/pinocchio665/P1016740.jpg)
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Beviin Atin Eparavu on Apr 24, 2010, 09:26 PM
Pretty. What you doing for a visor?
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: pinocchio on Apr 24, 2010, 09:43 PM
not sure yet, the "cheap way would be to go with a cut up welder shield, but I can say for certain the red job will have a t-visor.com piece as I already have at least one of those, I need to discuss that with Mar'eyce as I have never cut one out, I really like the t visor product and think they are pretty darn reasonable for the price at under 11 dollars, we gotta decide if we want to 'splurge' for one.  the cost would be about 14.00 with shipping.  If we do go that way I may already have another lying around just need to dig around, i horde parts, and if not I am starting my V3 build for dragon con so could add one to the order if necessary.  with a t visor product that would bring the cost to 41.00 total for the helmet.  we'll just have to decide.
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Beviin Atin Eparavu on Apr 24, 2010, 09:48 PM
I think that is still very manageable. I think i made that much returning cans yesterday.
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: pinocchio on Apr 24, 2010, 09:52 PM
Yeah, considering everything else is being made out of sterlite containers, including the gauntlets.  I will be putting blue EL wire into the red bucket for that republic commando look since that bucket will be more for mantle display that trooping, but the while will be plain jane, no lights or voice amps.
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Hondo Karr on Apr 24, 2010, 09:58 PM
since it's a cheap and easy build and we want to show people how they can do this as cheaply as possible and still meet crl's i would say go with either the 5.00 welding shield or, hit up an automotive window shop and get a free scrap of dark tinting to back up the existing the tint... unless it's painted over?

as for cutting the new visor, it's really easy for the 2 piece, take the existing visor and trace it on the welding shield with a crayon. cut it out with scissors and glue in place.
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: pinocchio on Apr 24, 2010, 10:07 PM
yeah it is painted over, i keep it in for stabilization when body working J2P's, Mar'eyce has experience cutting those as it's what she uses, and since it is a Jango 2 piece like she uses shouldn't be a problem for the welding shield.  I want to have the earcap mods done by the end of the week, that is the biggest thing besides reinforcing the cheeks to straighten em' out to get these looking like a proper bucket.  And the stalk can either be scrap aluminum or scrap carbon fiber, they're both the same thickness and I have both.  May just go ahead and cut the CF one to go along with the aluminum one, and there is another that I use as a template that is 3mm sintra for a real bargain basement affair.  Since is is just the stalk there are a lot of inexpensive ways to do it.
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Riya Morut on Apr 25, 2010, 09:48 PM
A note about the RubberMaid-type plastic:  it does not hold a boob shape very well.  I got some of those to pack (I'm moving soon) and decided to give one a try, and it has given me no end of trouble.  If you are a femmando and need some well-shaped boob plates, I would recommend a trashcan instead (Wally World has a pretty big kind for $8 that worked well for my first attempt).  If you don't need a lot of bending, though, it should work fine.
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Slade Kel on Apr 25, 2010, 11:01 PM
On that note, depending on your cup size, you can also go with the mannequin method. Ebay usually has half or 'hanging' mannequins up for auction. I've seen them as low as four bucks, and with a little work, the chest area can be cut out and turned into femme chest plates. There have been a couple of kits that used this method, and until the mando in question said that was how she made her plates, it was almost impossible to tell.
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: pinocchio on Apr 25, 2010, 11:15 PM
ok so those face shield thingees' are just thin acrylic, thought they were thicker polycarbonate and harder to cut, so i'll get a couple three on order.  The flexability will be good for dealing with the space taken up by EL wire in the other couple buckets that are in work this season, so 5.oo dollars it is for the visor.
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Jango Jet on May 02, 2010, 04:56 AM
Hi Vode!

Thank you for this great inspirations!
I thing i will try to convert (the right word?) your ideas (my first Beskar'gam)...  :)

I'm looking forward to see your progress  ;D ;D ;D

(pardon, I don't speak english well... :-\) But I hope you could undersand, what I mean  ???)
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Tepp Audama on May 09, 2010, 10:24 PM
Very cool information on here, never thought to use the storage tubes for donor plastic before (was going to use 5 gal buckets, LOL!).
I am actually going to have to snag some of this info, very useful and I have a couple other guys looking into this as well that may benefit from this information.
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Mar'eyce on May 10, 2010, 09:53 PM
For girls:

I have used the tote plastic for femme chest plates, and although it does not bend as easily as sintra, I was able to make it work. Admittedly, I was going for a minimizing effect rather than obvious boob plates, so I just needed to produce enough curve to make them fit while wearing a snugly laced vest. ;)  You would just need to reinforce the backs of the plates behind your shaping darts either by fiberglassing or gluing down scraps of plastic. Bondo and sand the darts and voila!

Here is a set I started working on a few months ago using the storage bin method:

http://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/index.php?topic=19170.0

( It is almost finished, which reminds me I need to take pics and update that thread! )

Anyhow....let's talk about guns, shall we? ;D

In keeping with the spirit of cheapness, I picked up a handful of water pistols at Walmart for $1 each. They are brightly coloured little things with the word "SPLASH" emblazoned on the side of them, and they come in 3 or 4 different types.

So here is the original gun:

(http://i539.photobucket.com/albums/ff352/nolasomething/Costuming%20WIPs/watergun1.jpg)

And here it is with a makeover, along with another in progress.

(http://i539.photobucket.com/albums/ff352/nolasomething/Costuming%20WIPs/waterguns2.jpg)

All I did to it was:

1. Dremel off all markings and logos, cut off the obvious "water gun" trigger
2. Hit it with some flat black paint
3. Apply minimal greeblies (This is the fun part. The emitter is actually a measuring cap from a bottle of chemicals that I bought for my fish tank, and the others are parts from a dead video game controller that I took apart. All junk! And it was free!)
4. Highlights and weathering with silver craft paint
5. Paint with clear satin finish

A fairly decent blaster for one dollar...not bad eh?

Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Beviin Atin Eparavu on May 10, 2010, 10:02 PM
That is nice, that is nice.
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Ver'ta Mdej on May 10, 2010, 10:04 PM
If you want to add a little weight to them, put a few bb's in the water fill hole and squirt in some great stuff or glue to hold them in place.
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Mar'eyce on May 11, 2010, 07:10 AM
If you want to add a little weight to them, put a few bb's in the water fill hole and squirt in some great stuff or glue to hold them in place.

Great idea! They do feel very light in the hand, so I'll have to try it. I like a gun to feel as real as it looks. ;)

I'm so happy with the way that these are turning out that I think I'll be keeping one for myself.
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Cdr. Ch'ren Jud'se on May 11, 2010, 11:00 AM
haha, i had those same guns and did the same thing, although i dropped them on my garage floor.... and the front ends shattered..... SO word of advice, don't drop em!
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Arden Fisk on May 18, 2010, 10:22 AM
That word of advice holds true to most of our costume bits, though, especially helmets!  For being 'armor' this stuff sure is fragile, lol.
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Syno Dax on Jun 08, 2010, 02:50 AM
Just bought my containers, water guns, and spraypaint today! Eagerly following...please, updates?
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Mar'eyce on Jun 08, 2010, 08:02 AM
Congratulations for taking the first steps into a larger world! :)

I suggest you start you start a WIP thread of your own in the armor planning section and post pics of your progress as you get started. That way, if you have questions or if we see an area where you may need some advice or assistance, we can easily offer it.

Real life and all its complications have forced me to take a temporary break from working on this project, but I should be back to work on it fairly soon. I just finished moving and am still unpacking.

I still need to cut out knees and a backplate, make a vest, find some surplus or garage sale belts and pouches. I have an online source for military surplus, so I'll probably go with that. Suzy's surplus on eBay is very affordable and she has a nice variety of stuff.

Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Beviin Atin Eparavu on Jun 08, 2010, 12:30 PM
Having just finished moving, I have a surplus of plastic totes. Convenient; It makes this thread more useful than ever  ;D
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Syno Dax on Jun 08, 2010, 09:39 PM
Just a question...how did you start cutting this? It is HELL to get through. I hate using Dremels, and when I cut with one [using the standard cut wheel at Walmart] the edge is very jagged. How can I start cutting with the snips?
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Hondo Karr on Jun 08, 2010, 09:52 PM
Ive alwasy just used good ol' scissors and never had a problem.
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Beviin Atin Eparavu on Jun 08, 2010, 10:15 PM
Ive alwasy just used good ol' scissors and never had a problem.

You've also had the hand pressure of a hydraulic press, I bet  :D
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Syno Dax on Jun 08, 2010, 10:23 PM
Haha exactly. I wish this thing was just flat. How can I cut the sides? I too see the potential for knees in these weird rounded parts, and so I'm reluctant to cut through them.
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: the_remora on Jun 09, 2010, 12:44 AM
I found that an exact-o knife cuts through the tote very well, I didn't use it on the corners though.  I got tired of using the snips and used the knife to trim the edges.
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Nio'be Tavell on Jun 09, 2010, 05:06 AM
I would think you could cut them out with normal scissors or a knife, use the same tool to get the bigger jagged edges off, then use sandpaper to get the smaller stuff off.
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Mar'eyce on Jun 10, 2010, 06:05 AM
I cut these out with a cheap pair of snips from Walmart. Starting it was a bit challenging since you have to cut through the ridge at the top of the tote, but that it how I did it. I prefer a dremel honestly, but did it this way to demonstrate that it can be done even if you do not have access to power tools.

It does come out a bit rough at first, but like Nio'be said, cut off jagged parts and sand the edges smooth, and you're good to go.
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Sifr Jate'kara on Jun 22, 2010, 10:41 PM
Thanks for this tutorial. I can't wait to see more of it. I will definitely be using this to start out on, get my suit up and running and then upgrade parts to higher quality stuff as I can afford it.
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Kraylo Gav on Jun 27, 2010, 01:49 AM
Thank you so much for all of this! Your effort has shown me that perhaps I can afford to get this project going before my next tax return :P. I think, perhaps for a test build I will use this method of shaping the body armor. Thanks again!
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Syno Dax on Jul 01, 2010, 05:07 PM
Hey, how exactly did you heat these plates? I know an oven was mentioned...temp? Any safety precautions, anything? I'm a total newbie to armor. Thanks!

EDIT: Read back a few pages...got the answer. 225 F. Sorry!
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Ne'tra Tal on Jul 06, 2010, 10:41 AM
I must thank you guys because I'm using this tutorial to start off! Thanks so much!

You can see my WIP here if you'd like: http://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/index.php?topic=27261.msg380742#msg380742
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: dunjotharr on Aug 02, 2010, 04:21 PM
Great thread.  I will be starting my mando in about a month or so.  This and a couple other great threads really drove me to actually get started. 
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Tor K'lumph on Aug 11, 2010, 05:21 AM
Sadly I'm a noob and I'm broke. Wat can you use for a cheap vest for the plates? And wat about cheap helmets? Can you make your own cheap helmet?
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Ohl'd Vart on Aug 11, 2010, 09:15 AM
And wat about cheap helmets? Can you make your own cheap helmet?

Yes...I do it all the time. Search "scratchbuilt helmets" here and you'll find lots of examples.
Rob
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Mar'eyce on Aug 14, 2010, 09:04 AM
A scratchbuild can be done even more cheaply than modding up a $30 Rubies helmet. FInd a bike or skateboard helmet from a thrift store or garage sale, and get yourself some For Sale signs, epoxy putty, fiberglass/resin, and bondo. There are plenty of build threads to use for reference.

Cheap vest...I'm still working on how I'm going to do that part. I'm a professional seamstress, so of course I would just make one....I do it every day. ;)

But since most people are not sewists, it wouldn't be very helpful for me to say "Buy two yards of fabric, measure yourself, and draft a pattern based on Jango's vest..."

So I'm thinking of thrift store options that can easily be modified with minimal sewing and still be acceptable.

A word of advice to any costumer, especially those on a tight budget: LEARN TO SEW. We all spend time developing sculpting and prop building skills, but sewing is equally essential and often overlooked as a skill to be developed.
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Ohl'd Vart on Aug 16, 2010, 02:33 PM
So I'm thinking of thrift store options that can easily be modified with minimal sewing and still be acceptable.

Here's what I've done several times:
1) Go to a thrift store and look for a leather or vinyl coat or long jacket just a bit larger than you need, in the color you want....make sure it’s smooth, or at least has 1 seam down the middle only….

2) Fold the collar inside, and try the coat/jacket on BACKWARDS, and snap/zip/button it up...

3) If it fits relatively well, and it's cheap, then you can buy it and take it home....

4) Remove the collar (use seam ripper or cut it off—if you cut it off, get close to the existing seam)...

5) Remove the sleeves (ripper or cut them off)...OR...you can cut a semi-circle pattern and leave the tops of the sleeves for caps (Jango-style)...OR...you can use the spare leather of the pockets for the caps later....leave a little for hem allowance.

6) I you use a long jacket, measure yourself from the top of your shoulder, down to where you want the bottom of the vest to stop, mark it, and cut and remove the extra material at the bottom....leave some hem allowance.

7) Cut the neck opening into a semi-circle (the back of the collar) so it feels right, and doesn’t choke you….leave some hem allowance.

8 ) On the reverse side (now the back of the vest – really the front placket), use Velcro, snaps, zipper, etc. for closure fasteners….you may have to move the buttons or add snaps to make it close better…

9) If it’s a bit baggy under the arms (and it will be, as you are now wearing it backwards, and it wasn’t cut for that), you can use safety pins or sew a folded dart under the armpits and down the sides to take up the extra cloth, and make it a custom fit…if you place the closures/buttons right, you can take some of the "slop" out then.

10) Seam allowances: If it’s a leather vest, and you don’t have a heavy-duty sewing machine (and don’t try to sew leather with a standard machine, or you’ll strip the nylon dog gears), you can either sew it by hand, or use hot glue…just fold them hem allowances over and use a spot of glue.

11) Add the pockets or use some left-over fabric for sleeve caps (after making a semi-circular pattern for cutting), using hot glue or hand-sewing (if leather) or machine (if vinyl) to attach at the top shoulder seams…

12) That’s it! Now you can attach your armor plates via Velcro or the stud/grommet system…

Hope this helps.... ;)
Rob
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Jacx Arakkis on Aug 16, 2010, 05:18 PM
Rob, you may be a genius. I guess thats why your in charge ;D

*to the Goodwill*
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Beviin Atin Eparavu on Aug 16, 2010, 09:14 PM
I was there today, lots of that exact stuff. One thing that boggles me though, is how I could use such materials (as kora mentioned) to make a kama without it looking like a patchwork hobo blanket.
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Ohl'd Vart on Aug 16, 2010, 10:01 PM
Rob, you may be a genius.

DID YOU HEAR THAT, DAVE !?   :D ;D

Rob
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Kora on Aug 16, 2010, 11:00 PM
I was there today, lots of that exact stuff. One thing that boggles me though, is how I could use such materials (as kora mentioned) to make a kama without it looking like a patchwork hobo blanket.

Skirt, not a jacket for the kama. :P (I'm pretty sure mine and my brother's look nothing like patchwork hobo blankets.)

And it tends to only work if you're a smaller person unless you luck out and find an XL or more leather/suede skirt.
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Beviin Atin Eparavu on Aug 17, 2010, 12:07 AM
I want implying, kora :p
Just saying thats the result for me if left to my own devices.

If anyone does know how to make a nice breadth kama from junk, chime in.
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Ohl'd Vart on Aug 17, 2010, 09:55 AM
Use a blanket, bedsheet (dyed, if need be), or the cheapo fabric from Wal-Mart (or the like)...measure your waist/hips, and the length to floor, fold over the material and cut it to that floor length and hip/waist width; put your belt or rope or tie in the bend of the fold and sew a "sleeve" the whole width of the material to encompass the tie or belt; add trim/decorations to the edges if needed or wanted, or hem it all around the cut edges; then, put it on....done! ;)
Rob
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Drafe Tureel on Aug 30, 2010, 03:45 PM
Nerf mods always look cool. They arent the cheapest weapons but they get a really cool effect. If someone can tell me how to post pics I will post all my nerf gun mods.
Drafe

By the way nice job so far guys :)
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: radiobath on Sep 09, 2010, 11:42 AM
Thanks for the tips! This is so helpful. I have a very tight budget and I don't want to sacrifice quality. It looks like I'm going to be spending a lot of time scavenging, when I'm not in Wally World for hours. :)

Can't wait for the next update and how-to. ;D
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Grunt Trooper on Sep 09, 2010, 08:52 PM
For sure. This makes me excited to start working on my own. Mostly I never thought of going to a thrift store! That is such a great idea! I think that every town has one anyway
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Bralor Skirata on Sep 17, 2010, 08:53 PM
where did u get the jango fett 2 piece for $30? i dont think they are sold in stores anymore or online at walmart, target or toys r us. iv looked on ebay and i couldnt find any of the rubie two piece helmets
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Jazz on Sep 18, 2010, 12:36 AM
where did u get the jango fett 2 piece for $30? i dont think they are sold in stores anymore or online at walmart, target or toys r us. iv looked on ebay and i couldnt find any of the rubie two piece helmets

amazon has alot, i got mine for i think...35 ,,,
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Bralor Skirata on Sep 18, 2010, 11:02 AM
Vore antilles. (thanx) i forgot to look on amazon  ;D
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Beviin Atin Eparavu on Sep 18, 2010, 11:08 AM
A'den did a bottom-up sort of deal with that new boba helm, how did that turn out in relation to the j2p pricewise? I don't want to know for myself, but I think thats useful info for this thread.
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Hondo Karr on Sep 18, 2010, 07:06 PM
There's a thread on it in the helmet section. I spent I believe about $60.00 out of pocket including the helmet to do the conversion. for someone that didnt have the things on hand that I did it would be more around $90.00. That includes painted and visor installed, ready to wear. so, I would actually say it's not much more thatn doing the 2 piece. however, the major consideration is helmet size. The HBf is basically a 1:1 scale helmet so, it may be too large for some.
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Bralor Skirata on Oct 01, 2010, 05:39 PM
just got my jango 2 piece in the mail ;D.  any progress on the ear cap mods?
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: DreamTripper on Oct 05, 2010, 03:44 AM
Since I'm just getting started, this thread is incredibly helpful, although, I found some inexpensive metal I plan on making my armor plates with. I still think My costume will be right around $150. I'll do a progress thread as soon as I get started
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Prudii Jai ga'laar on Oct 08, 2010, 11:10 PM
This is perfect, just what I heed to get started. Sorry, guess I should say hi. Anyway, I just joined and am in the planning stage for my armor, so this is really coming in handy, thanks for posting all the great tips.
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: GreatSkyRiver Falco on Oct 09, 2010, 10:51 AM
just got my jango 2 piece in the mail ;D.  any progress on the ear cap mods?

Yeah!, I've been waiting for that part also, I did my own, but I want to see how someone else does it.

Here's mine;
http://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/index.php?topic=22070.0
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Bralor Skirata on Oct 09, 2010, 11:14 AM
Here's mine;
http://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/index.php?topic=22070.0

Very cool. You've at least giving me an idea on how to do mine. Thanks
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Dersam Senaar on Nov 01, 2010, 03:10 PM
Thanks for this thread! It helped me get off my butt and finally start on my armor.

Here's mine so far
http://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/index.php?topic=31863.0
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Dresdon Acacin on Dec 18, 2010, 11:14 PM
STAY AWAY FROM FUSION PAINTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Seriously, this is something that has been discussed to death on these forums. They are the WORST possible paint you can use on your armor. The wasy Fusion paint is designed to work, it doesn't need or work with primer. Also, you cannot paint on top of it, even with other Fusion paints. If you use primer, if you do layered weathering, if you add stripes, tribls or sigils to your armor, you WILL get paint lifting and cracking if you use Fusion paints.
Fusion paints works pretty well on my stainless steel plates, they did a bit of krinkling the first time, but nthen I wiped them down with menthol hydrate , Grinded the surface with a dremel and sanding stone piece on it, and It stuck on it like a beut. You just need to rough up the surface so it has something to grab.
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Hondo Karr on Dec 18, 2010, 11:17 PM
Fusion doesn't need a rough surface to adhere and to be honest, Im surprised you got it to adhere to metal at all. Fusion is molecularly structured to go on plastics only without the use of a primer. It actually bonds, not adheres, to plastics. If you apply it over a primer, it lifts. If you apply it over other non Fusion paints, it lifts. It you apply it over other Fusion paints, it lifts. If you add a second coat over the first coat, it lifts etc etc etc. SOME people have had luck with Fusion paints but, the vast majority Im aware of havent.

If it is being applied as the sole coat on the armor, you may have good luck with it. However, using it with any layered painting methods... ungh...
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Dresdon Acacin on Dec 18, 2010, 11:39 PM
I want implying, kora :p
Just saying thats the result for me if left to my own devices.

If anyone does know how to make a nice breadth kama from junk, chime in.
Heres how I made mine, I got 1 square meter of black vynol, a dog black nylon dog leash, a military webbing belt, and several small black pouches for free from the army surplus shop (I'm a regular costomer, and the owner thought it would be interesting to see what I was making, so He supplied with what I needed))but nothing above $10 so far)), fold it in half to make a rectangle. place heavy flat oblects on the seam to serve a a marker, cut holes in the back part of it, and use the dog leashe to make belt loops, and glue them in with contact cement. once you are done that, contact cement the rest of the kama into a single sheet(this is because vynol has a white fabric weaved back). And cut a small slit between were it would be between the legs, cut at the bottom up to 8" for added mobility.now you can add pouches, holsters and whatever else you want.
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Dresdon Acacin on Dec 18, 2010, 11:56 PM
I got the camo kind, with regular metal,wood,wicker and more burgandy ,gold and cobalt in that style of paint over the camo black for the stripes and the gold and blue accents. The camo version involves fusion and extra surface shesion(it;s made to paint outdoor equiptment). So the camo kind, would suprise me if it didn't work.
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Kal_Buir69 on Dec 19, 2010, 12:03 AM
Someone mentioned back several pages ago that there was a wookie page on mando armor colors and their meaning. I can't seem to find it. Could some kind soul post a link here?

Kal_Buir69
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Dresdon Acacin on Dec 19, 2010, 09:14 AM
Half way down the page, and the left side of the page.
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Beskar%27gam][url] (http://[url)
Gray=Mourning a Lost Love
Red=Honoring a Father
Black=Justice
Gold=Vengeance
Green=Duty
Blue=Reliability
Orange=A Lust for Life
Purple=decoration(I think)
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Kal_Buir69 on Dec 19, 2010, 09:34 AM
Nice! And thanks for posting this.

Kal
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Dresdon Acacin on Dec 20, 2010, 07:35 PM
Hey A'den, I was wondering-you being on the approval team and all, is this bb gun irregular enough for me to possibly use with my armour?
http://www.airgundepot.com/echo-1-usa-zombat-aeg-airsoft-rifle.html (http://www.airgundepot.com/echo-1-usa-zombat-aeg-airsoft-rifle.html)
It could be some kind of verpine-disruptor crossover, a projectile in a jacket of disruptor plasma, speaking of wich, I could add blue accents to make it more star warzy, if you think it is remotly possibly to use with in conjunction with my armor(with out battery pack as to keep it from being consideered a weapon).
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Hondo Karr on Dec 21, 2010, 12:30 AM
To me, it looks like an M4 mod. Very real world weapon. It could certainly be used but, it needs alot of tweaking. For my tastes, more tweaking than it's worth.
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Dresdon Acacin on Dec 21, 2010, 07:13 AM
I was thinking I could add commando style accessories, granade launcher on side, laser bat. box underneath, fore grip on left side and blue accents on all the vents and a cutting tool/lightsaber trophy beyonette?
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Hondo Karr on Dec 21, 2010, 09:27 AM
The problem is the whole base of the gun is modern real world military and is highly recognizable. The magazine and it's housing, the grip and trigger area, the receiver, the stock, the picatiny foregrip etc. To me, all of those pieces are  unuseable without a ridiculous ammount of modifications. The only part that really looks useable to me is the barrel and shroud as it's an unusual design and doesn't stand out so much. Also, I see the price is over 300.00. For 300.00 you could buy 1 or 2 really nice prop guns from The Woodchuck, a whole slew of other prop guns from others or, you could build an arsenal of your own weapons as there are numerous how to's in the weapons area for things like verps, DE-10's, EE-1,2,3's, mods on Hasbro weapons etc.
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Dresdon Acacin on Dec 21, 2010, 11:28 AM
I could change the mag to an hk style box mag, change the stock to a foldable version, or a solid one, and the I could put a dc-17 style 2 seperate projected lense style scope(image will be uploader after school, about 3 hours from now.
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Hondo Karr on Dec 21, 2010, 12:17 PM
But youre talkign real world style weapons again. They need to be Swarzy weapons. For the price, even if this were easily modifiable, I wouldn't do. Even if this were cheaper, I'd rather mod a Nerf... at least they generally have a sci-fi feel to them to sart and they are 1/10th the price.
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Beviin Atin Eparavu on Dec 21, 2010, 12:23 PM
While we're on the subject, A'den, is there anything inadmissable about a sword with a firing mechanism built into the hilt? Not a gunblade, as the description often warrants, but a compact mechanism perpendicular to the blade and attatched to the underside of the crosshilt. The handle would essentially, be a gun grip.
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Hondo Karr on Dec 21, 2010, 02:08 PM
Definatly sounds something more Anime than Star Wars based however, I wouldn't doubt the existence of something similar in Star Wars EU somewhere.

I think some sort proto artowrk for it would help or even looking through Star Wars weapons databases an dtrying to find something of a similar design would help as well. With the description alone I can't really wrap my head around what you're thinking other than things Ive seen in Anime/Manga serials.
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Kora on Dec 21, 2010, 04:42 PM
There is something similar to a gunblade in Star Wars, it's been discussed before. (I believe it was a vibrosword with a blaster barrel underneath it.) I sadly can't find the link to it on Wookiepedia as I don't remember what the thing was called. I think there might have only been one or so scans from a comic for reference though.
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Beviin Atin Eparavu on Dec 21, 2010, 05:49 PM
I think of it as the final solution in the progression of the bayonet. Basically a gun with a big knife attatched.

(http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc348/catarei/Beviinsketch.jpg)

This is the best visual aid I can provide, my drawing isnt so good. This reflects my intention of using my right hand sword reversed, but the same principal applies. The firing mechanism would be a separate devite attatchable to the underside of the extended guard, but I couldnt draw that.
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Bralor Skirata on Dec 23, 2010, 11:34 AM
There is something called a blastsword and as far as i can tell theres really only one picture of it.(http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100601202843/starwars/images/thumb/8/87/Blastsword-tur.jpg/250px-Blastsword-tur.jpg)
heres the link to the Wookeepedia page http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Blastsword (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Blastsword)
Theres a funny quote by Wes Janson about it. "So it's like a blaster you have to hit someone with. I've got to have one."
 ;D
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Chopaa Bankai on Dec 24, 2010, 02:32 PM
What would you say the best material to use for a first build?
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Hondo Karr on Dec 24, 2010, 03:25 PM
Whatever you are most comfortable working with, can afford and is available.
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Chopaa Bankai on Dec 25, 2010, 11:05 AM
he says that you have to mold it.  what does he mean by that?  i am new at this.
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: pegious on Jan 16, 2011, 09:29 PM
Hi if you cold possilbe tell me were I could get templaes for the armor
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Hondo Karr on Jan 16, 2011, 09:37 PM
Main page, there is a link for tutorials and templates.
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Mar'eyce on Feb 05, 2011, 10:47 AM
he says that you have to mold it.  what does he mean by that?  i am new at this.

Mold the armor plates? When working with plastic(either PVC totes like the ones shown or sintra) you need to  heat them up to shape them. A heat gun works best for this, but you could also heat them in the oven at a low temp if you have no access to a heat gun. The tote plastic is a bit harder to mold than sintra, but if you heat it up enough, it will work.

Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Ohl'd Vart on Feb 08, 2011, 06:13 PM
A really HOT hair dryer will work, also.... ;)
Rob
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Vax Kordo on Feb 08, 2011, 09:23 PM
I'm gonna have to try out my wife's hair dryer...she has one of those super-duper salon ones. ;)
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Mah-Nu Oor on Feb 14, 2011, 04:30 PM
Thank for this, i did my armor for a gand total of 50 dollars at Lowes home improvement!  23 for the heat gun, 7 for the bin, and 20 for all the spray paint.  Pure genius!
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Chopaa Bankai on Mar 03, 2011, 12:32 PM
what shape does the armor need to be molded into?
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Hondo Karr on Mar 03, 2011, 01:50 PM
It needs to be molded to conform to your body.
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Ran on Mar 07, 2011, 10:24 PM
where did u get the jango fett 2 piece for $30? i dont think they are sold in stores anymore or online at walmart, target or toys r us. iv looked on ebay and i couldnt find any of the rubie two piece helmets
thar ya go  ;) http://anniescostumes.com/ep3mask.htm#RU4116
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Bralor Skirata on Mar 08, 2011, 04:46 PM
thanx ;D but i have one already. got it off of amazon but i do appreciate the help lol
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Ran on Mar 08, 2011, 07:18 PM
thanx ;D but i have one already. got it off of amazon but i do appreciate the help lol
yeah i read that but just in case others would like to know. ITS NOT ALL ABOUT YOU. im kidding ;D
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Bralor Skirata on Mar 09, 2011, 05:08 PM
yeah i read that but just in case others would like to know. ITS NOT ALL ABOUT YOU. im kidding ;D
i know, im not that self centered...but close ;D
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Ran on Mar 10, 2011, 07:53 PM
i know, im not that self centered...but close ;D
i think the  ;D is over used but im definately guilty of it too   ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: ray'K on Mar 16, 2011, 12:47 AM
i thought this topic was about building armour fer cheap....
 ;)
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: bioshutt on Mar 21, 2011, 12:49 AM
A scratchbuild can be done even more cheaply than modding up a $30 Rubies helmet. FInd a bike or skateboard helmet from a thrift store or garage sale, and get yourself some For Sale signs, epoxy putty, fiberglass/resin, and bondo. There are plenty of build threads to use for reference.

Cheap vest...I'm still working on how I'm going to do that part. I'm a professional seamstress, so of course I would just make one....I do it every day. ;)

But since most people are not sewists, it wouldn't be very helpful for me to say "Buy two yards of fabric, measure yourself, and draft a pattern based on Jango's vest..."

So I'm thinking of thrift store options that can easily be modified with minimal sewing and still be acceptable.

A word of advice to any costumer, especially those on a tight budget: LEARN TO SEW. We all spend time developing sculpting and prop building skills, but sewing is equally essential and often overlooked as a skill to be developed.

I agree completely. (but my mom is a professional costume maker for the Old Globe and The San Diego Opera)
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: bioshutt on Mar 21, 2011, 12:54 AM
What would you say the best material to use for a first build?
Paper and fiberglass (and maybe Pepakura) :-\
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Gavstatic on Mar 29, 2011, 01:31 PM
Think it would be possible to get gauntlets out of this? I mean by the looks of the basic gauntlets and this i think it would probably be a little difficult to get the detail and some of the edges. Also another question is where did you find the flight suit? I tend to be very iffy on online shopping so any help would be appreciated. :D Thanks Sincerely Gav'Static Tr'zch
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Ran on Mar 29, 2011, 06:45 PM
is there any like materials list you guys could post? you know to be prepered before starting the armor
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Dresdon Acacin on Mar 29, 2011, 06:55 PM
@Gavstatic
    If your combing through thrift stores like a fett on solo you should find a flightsuit, or at least some 'ol denim mechanic's coveralls. You can find dark navy blue or grey are the easyest to find. The actual flightsuits are alot harder to find, you can tell its a flightsuit pretty easily by teh basis of-zipper or buttons.  I can pretty much garuntee you can get cover-alls or a flightsuit at any military surplus shop.

buttons-cover-alls
zipper-flight suit most likely


    I prefer using cover-alls because you can unbutton teh bottom to use teh 'freshers. I jsut keep teh bottom buttons hidden under the cod piece.
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Drafe Tureel on Mar 29, 2011, 07:18 PM
I got my black one at an online army supply store called Corps Plus. It comes in blue black and I think green. But it costs about 50 bucks.
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Drafe Tureel on Mar 31, 2011, 09:04 PM
http://www.copsplus.com/prodnum8688.php
This is the link to the jumpsuit at CorpsPlus, its about 35 bucks before shipping though.
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Mar'eyce on Apr 06, 2011, 09:40 PM
Think it would be possible to get gauntlets out of this? I mean by the looks of the basic gauntlets and this i think it would probably be a little difficult to get the detail and some of the edges. Also another question is where did you find the flight suit? I tend to be very iffy on online shopping so any help would be appreciated. :D Thanks Sincerely Gav'Static Tr'zch

We are hoping to make gauntlets from this plastic as well; I have some scraps from cutting out the plates so we will see what we can come up with.

I found the flightsuit at a large thrift store in a New Orleans suburb. I know it was a lucky find, but even if you have trouble finding an actual military flight suit for that price, used coveralls are common.

Hopefully we will be able to resume work on this build soon.. The last year has been really tough and I have had to suspend most of my costuming activity, but I'm getting back on track now. :) And we do need to finish this project!

Back to the original goal here: to create a costume that meets current CRLs with a budget of $100 to $150.

The materials being used:

~Silver grey PVC storage tote from Wal-Mart. 1 large or 2 medium for a light, Boba style set of plates.
~Used flightsuit from a thrift store
~Rubies 2 piece Jango helmet(must be modded, and only works for small to medium body types)
~Cheap toy guns

Still needed:

~Flak Vest(I plan on buying an old jacket from a thrift store or garage sale and converting it to a vest with minimal sewing to show that you don't have to be a seamstress to do it)
~Boots, also from the thrift store
~Gloves
~Vintage military surplus pouches


Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Ahab Cromwell on Apr 10, 2011, 11:59 PM
as for finishing this yes you should i all but abandon this way of making armor and went metal cause you guys stoped in the middle of making this wip
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Dresdon Acacin on Apr 11, 2011, 03:19 PM
lol-I've done the oposite, I started with stainless steel, and am now starting to use some plastic parts. i.e. gauntlets. I got my gauntlets from RKD and they are of extremely high quality, not to mention the great costumer service. So, if your gona buy gauntlets instead of make them-I strongly recomend getign gauntlets from RedKraytDragon. You will not be disapointed!
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Drafe Tureel on Apr 14, 2011, 09:18 PM
I haven't started building yet, but I did buy the storage bins. Do you know what size templates to use, I am 6'2'' ish and about 160-190 lbs.
Thanks
Drafe
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Hondo Karr on Apr 14, 2011, 09:19 PM
Probably print the large templates and tape them to you then snap a pic. Post it up and we'll tell you if you need to go larger or smaller.
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: jedipenguin26 on May 13, 2011, 03:39 PM
How do you get the plastic armour to stick to the flight suit?
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Dar'manda on May 13, 2011, 03:46 PM
How do you get the plastic armour to stick to the flight suit?

Search "armor attachment".  There are multiple ways to attach armor to the costume from snaps, to bolts, to velcro, to straps.
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Mar'eyce on May 19, 2011, 09:02 PM
I personally use industrial strength velcro, and have never had any trouble with it. I use the sticky back (Velcro brand) with the hook side on the back of the plates, and buy sew-on separately and attach the loop side to the vest. It works like a charm.
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Bralor Skirata on May 21, 2011, 08:47 PM
How do you get the plastic armour to stick to the flight suit?
the armor attaches to your vest which you wear over your flightsuit
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Dresdon Acacin on May 25, 2011, 06:44 AM
What about jetpack? you Dont accualy just clamp it onto your back plate do you?
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Remo Jadd on May 25, 2011, 06:53 AM
jetpacks are usually fitted with a harness which runs under the flak vest and out through the back of the vest and through the backplate. if you look through the jetpack and backpack section of the forums, you should find plenty of threads showing you how it is done.
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Kolgrim on Jun 05, 2011, 10:23 PM
Great tutorial. It's given me a lot to do for this week to get started on my armor. I think I'll go plastic first for my first set of armor then upgrade to metal once I'm more familiar with building a kit and all that entails in general.
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Manoof on Jun 13, 2011, 08:19 AM
this looks great, reading through this has helped understand how the kit as a whole fits together as i was having n00b questions (what use was a vest, why not straight onto the flightsuit as an example) and the armour, i thought i'd have to make it from scratch with some sort of resin or something but plastic should be sweet :D
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Dresdon Acacin on Jun 13, 2011, 11:10 AM
A cheep easy way to make jet[acks of sorts, well at least a Jump-jet pack, for what I used is the body of a remote control Hover craft that ended up being a rip-off. Should have known from the start because the seller was also advertising sham-wows. Anyways, I made a kind of mounting platform with wich I have soem clamps bolted to that I'll use to put back accseories onto. I'm useing the bottom of a pencilcase as the comm-pack and will have a computer-looking device on the bracket on the back plate.
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Syno Dax on Jan 05, 2012, 03:22 PM
This tutorial is awesome...gave me a great start...any updates on gaunts/jetpack, Mar'eyce?
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Novoc Mereel on Jan 05, 2012, 05:31 PM
I wish this project would've been finished.  It got hijacked by a bunch of people asking Falin/A'den questions... which should've been either removed by a mod, or taken to PM's, to keep the thread on track.  Sorry, but I think it's dead now.
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Ohl'd Vart on Jan 05, 2012, 09:14 PM
It got hijacked by a bunch of people asking Falin/A'den questions...

As Yoda would say. "Merc Forum protocol, this is...change it, you cannot."  :D

Rob
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: The Patriarch on Jan 11, 2012, 05:35 PM
anybody have any ideas how to convert some old football shoulder pads to look mando
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Hondo Karr on Jan 11, 2012, 05:42 PM
Not really, I would highly discourage going down that route.
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: The Patriarch on Jan 11, 2012, 06:22 PM
ok well maybe then ill just take off the shoulders and use the padding and chest for the vest to hook my plates up to
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Mandalore the Uniter on Jan 12, 2012, 11:52 AM
ok well maybe then ill just take off the shoulders and use the padding and chest for the vest to hook my plates up to

Problem with this is that your going to really have to cover that padding up, almost 100% for it to pass muster.  A vest is such an easy thing to make, some people have even turned old coats into vests.
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: The Patriarch on Jan 12, 2012, 07:51 PM
hmmm... didnt think about that ok thanx ive got pletely of old coats
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Ohl'd Vart on Jan 13, 2012, 11:01 AM
hmmm... didnt think about that ok thanx ive got pletely of old coats

I used an old leather tenchcoat from the 90s for mine....

Rob
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Miko Suul on Jan 21, 2012, 10:01 AM
Any chance that this tutorial is going to be finished?  I found it really helpful so far and would love to see how the rest is going to turn out.  Even the off topic chatter was a bit of a help lol.  Thanks for getting posting what you have so far and I look forward to any more updates (if there are any).
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Penni'gyr on Jan 25, 2012, 02:03 PM
I
Any chance that this tutorial is going to be finished?  I found it really helpful so far and would love to see how the rest is going to turn out.  Even the off topic chatter was a bit of a help lol.  Thanks for getting posting what you have so far and I look forward to any more updates (if there are any).
I second this.  I'm particularly curious about the RF ear modification to the J2P.
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: albartpeter on Feb 04, 2012, 02:37 AM
Ok, a chance to chime in, I have already offered a Headgear for this develop, a 27 money Jango 2 element that is already in bondo, there are extra mods done to these boots that add no considerable price other than a bit of 5 instant stick, which you should have, and bondo, you should have that too, and a element of discarded steel to cut out an ear stalk with either a saw or if you are sufferer a dremel and computer file.  I cut my own out of discarded steel on a a group saw and side sanded into appearance but a dremel will do the job, or if really smashed a hack into saw, I aso will provide the gauntlets created out of the same case materials Mar'eyce is using, colour will be wal mart company apply colour, the 2.00 a can products.
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Dresdon Acacin on Feb 06, 2012, 03:12 PM
now seriously people, for someone who is damn-near bankrupt, I did pretty damn well considering my poverty. Lets just say-don't be affraid of the ocasional dumpster diving for parts...  :laugh:
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Ohl'd Vart on Feb 06, 2012, 09:31 PM
now seriously people, for someone who is damn-near bankrupt, I did pretty damn well considering my poverty. Lets just say-don't be affraid of the ocasional dumpster diving for parts...  :laugh:

Dude...I'm King of the Cheapskates...if I can possibly make anything I need without spending a dime, I'm gonna try.... ;D

Rob
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Dresdon Acacin on Feb 08, 2012, 07:41 AM
easyest way i could put it, try and use what you have before you go out and dish out cash on something you can substitute some junk you've got around your house.
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: ZhaneAugustine on Feb 16, 2012, 06:04 PM
This looks very promising, I have to admit.
One problem I run into with anything is with chaos and screaming and constantly being called to leave a project.
And if I had to bend the plastic while heating it, and called away, that might screw things up for me, for a while.

Other than that I think I MIGHT be able to sooner or later pull this off.
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Razeontil on Feb 19, 2012, 01:20 AM
I have to say this is all very helpful.
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: DaniHall on Mar 30, 2012, 10:38 AM
well, there's always conditions that differ for people. but, the factor of this place is a common look wha can be done for inexpensive. it's not going to be a all-encompassing but should fit most, especially with the latest increase, and 'm sure more arriving soon, of new message board associates looking to develop a awesome kit on a funds in challenging ecomonic periods.

that being said, it really doesn't issue how big or how little you are, if you're willing to put the tim in looking second side stores, thift stores, rummage revenue and used army extra stores, you will see all of your required smooth products for very very low costs. apart from the mil extra stores, the other locations are usually flexible in cost as well provided that ou don't try to undercut them.
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Targen on Apr 01, 2012, 01:31 PM
This great my dad and me were worried we would have to spend over a thousand dollars on this suit but this is awsome
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: The Patriarch on Apr 08, 2012, 01:40 AM
ok so i found some old baseball catchers knee/shin gaurd combo do you think these may be good and cheap pieces of armor to use? :)
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Dar'manda on Apr 08, 2012, 01:50 AM
ok so i found some old baseball catchers knee/shin gaurd combo do you think these may be good and cheap pieces of armor to use? :)

no. not unless you completely cover them.
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Aranar Naak on Jun 18, 2012, 08:49 PM
unluckily: I don't have a job. no job=UBBER small budget.

luckily: the world has smart and considerate people like everyone here to come up with some ideas to help people like me build their dreams!

I just got my totes to use. I am so EXCITED! will start another thread for mine later once I start.   ;D
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Korum Tarmod on Jun 23, 2012, 02:18 PM
on the flight suits, you can find flight suits at military surplus stores verying in price. really look and dig. i picked up a tan flight suit for $25 that they had marked for $70 on a diffrent flight suit, the only diffrences were the one i got had name tapes on it still.
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Dresdon Acacin on Jun 23, 2012, 05:58 PM
Lets not forget you can jsut use cover-alls too....I can pick up a pair of light grey coverall for $10 at my local military surplus store-the flightsuits are $25-$60.
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: GreatSkyRiver Falco on Jun 23, 2012, 06:04 PM
or some cheap 2pc BDU's
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Dresdon Acacin on Jun 23, 2012, 06:26 PM
Ah yes, BDUs...gota love em....I wear them all the time-you can;t go wrong with BDUs if your going for a 2piece. The RIPSTOP ones are very durable and weather nicely. You can get some pretty cheap from Rothco and of good quility. The only thigns I wear that arn;t surplus are my underwear, socks, and starwars shirts.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Hondo Karr on Jun 23, 2012, 06:28 PM
I actually would recommend NOT using the ripstop as it's such a Modern Military easily recognizable fabric. I use a 2 piece BDU for mine. If you use BDU's, try to go with at least medium armor and a kama to hide all the funky stitching and pockets.
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Dresdon Acacin on Jun 23, 2012, 06:58 PM
True, but you could also say the ripstop is integrated abilative plating.....and I find the reinforced joints add to the mercenary look a bit...
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: GreatSkyRiver Falco on Jun 23, 2012, 07:13 PM
mine are lawpro2 dark navy w/ ripstop, can't tell.
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Dresdon Acacin on Jun 23, 2012, 10:02 PM
And pouches......if you are REALLY cheap, you could cover candy boxes in hockey tape and use hocket tape to put them in a belt.....jsut put a piece of wood on them....Mind you-this would be like.....1 use, not enough time to get/make pouches and its the night b4 h;ween or something....
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: danny71198 on Aug 19, 2012, 11:09 PM
i was wondering i have a bunch of acrilic sheets in my dads shed i wanted to know if that would work and if not why not thank you
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: quelin vosque on Aug 28, 2012, 01:51 AM
can u please make a tutorial on how to put the armor on the flight suit please
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Dresdon Acacin on Aug 28, 2012, 08:01 AM
Acrylic is a bit brittle, depends on the thickness and such; and mounting the armour on the flightsuit you can use straps and webbing, but you also need the flak vest to mount the upper body armour onto(See: Jango's armour)
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: quelin vosque on Aug 28, 2012, 10:29 AM
dresdon what do u mean by putting them on with straps
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Dresdon Acacin on Aug 28, 2012, 01:55 PM
Lets say your using metal as your armour material, buy 10/24 or 3/16" 'Stove Bolts'-the flat head/countersunk type, and rough up the ehad of the bolt with a grinding wheel/coursegrit sandpaper. You can then attache them onto webbing by glueing them onto the insides of the plates with adhesives such as Permatex Cold Weld or JB Weld, then attache your webbing/strap onto the bolt, put a washr and nut, and trim off the excess bolt with a friction cutting wheel on a rotary tool or angle grinder. However, you will need to douse the bolt while cutting to keep the adhesive you used from being adversly effected by the heat. Most folks who use webbing put internal straps that run under the flightsuit, i.e. they have small slits cut in the flightsuit(with the edges hemmed as not to fray) and they run the webbing and buckle underneath the flightsuit.


same thing can be done with plastic, you just may have to use a differant adhesive like Epoxy.
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: quelin vosque on Sep 01, 2012, 11:53 PM
do we have to put our armour pieces on vests or no ?
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Dresdon Acacin on Sep 01, 2012, 11:54 PM
Yes. You can't really get into a flightsuit encased in armour now can you?
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Haran Tracyn on Sep 02, 2012, 01:23 AM
do we have to put our armour pieces on vests or no ?

Depends what Era you're doing. If you're trying to do an Early, Crusader, or Neo-Crusader, you don't need a vest. But Modern requires the vest.
If you haven't done so already I'd recommend checking the costume requirements listed here (http://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/index.php?action=ezportal;sa=page;p=5) and the Mercs Codex, found here (http://mandalorianmercs.org/downloadables/pubs/Codex.pdf).
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: CASUS ORDO on Sep 17, 2012, 11:55 PM
where do you get the visors and how do you attach them?
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Cpt_Arcturus on Dec 07, 2012, 12:12 PM
I have heard that armor plates made this way tend to want to revert back to their original shape over time.  Can anyone attest to this?
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Cpt_Arcturus on Dec 10, 2012, 04:38 PM
I am probably going to use Sintra anyway(or a version of) but your pretty positive the if you shock treat the plates after shaping this will definitely keep them from reverting back to their original shape? I am just covering my bases here, I dont want to seem like a pest
Thanks for the info!
Title: Re: Cheap and Easy Build Tutorial
Post by: Biohazard on Dec 16, 2012, 08:01 AM
Closing this up as it's been a long time since the tutorial was last updated. Topic starter, please PM me if you wish to add anything to it.