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Mandalorian Armor => Soft Parts => Topic started by: OriKad on Feb 19, 2010, 07:25 PM

Title: Rebel Pilot Style Soft Parts (Yes, it's a Mando)
Post by: OriKad on Feb 19, 2010, 07:25 PM
And now for the build thread for my V2 that was seen sketched in the planning board and paid for COMPLETELY by those axes I was selling.  If you hadn't seen it, this one is a light Mando fighter pilot based heavily on a Rebel pilot.  I decided before that I would keep as many elements of the rebel pilot as possible while keeping it up to at least--and preferably above--Mercs standards.  I probably won't make a body armor thread to go with this, since the body armor is going to be an unremarkable plain grey with no deviation from the basic Boba/Jango.

Let's start with the boots:  http://www.piratemerch.com/images/Walker-130-blkPU.jpg (http://www.piratemerch.com/images/Walker-130-blkPU.jpg)  I ordered these boots to go with it because they were within my price range.  Sure, they're Anakin-style, and that's not standard for the rebel pilot, but heck, it's a custom Mando costume.

Now, the vest.  I made some alterations to the rebel pilot vest so it would work better to hold the plates.  Mostly, I lengthened the body a little bit, and added another pair of straps.  Turns out that I was a little short on the strapping, so I had to order a little more before I finished.  Here's the pictures.

Front, all done, nothing left to do to it but add mountings for plates:
(http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad120/MikeBullian/Mandalorian%20Rebel%20Pilot%20Build/ftrvestfront.jpg)

Back, needs straps added to match the straps coming off the front and tabs on the shoulder straps:
(http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad120/MikeBullian/Mandalorian%20Rebel%20Pilot%20Build/ftrvestback.jpg)

The whole thing, including the ejection straps, seen from the front:
(http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad120/MikeBullian/Mandalorian%20Rebel%20Pilot%20Build/ftrvestwhole.jpg)

Orange flightsuit to come, just as soon as I make the darn thing.
Title: Re: Rebel Pilot Style Soft Parts (Yes, it's a Mando)
Post by: Ca Loar on Feb 19, 2010, 10:58 PM
This could be interesting. Really curious now.
Title: Re: Rebel Pilot Style Soft Parts (Yes, it's a Mando)
Post by: ray'K on Feb 27, 2010, 08:02 AM
whoa!
ori, how much are dem boots!?
Title: Re: Rebel Pilot Style Soft Parts (Yes, it's a Mando)
Post by: Dar'manda on Feb 27, 2010, 08:44 AM
http://www.piratemerch.com/pirate-boots-walker130-black-p-1497.html

http://www.piratemerch.com/pirate-boots-walker130-brown-p-1498.html

Thar ye be! lol

Nice stuff so far man!
Title: Re: Rebel Pilot Style Soft Parts (Yes, it's a Mando)
Post by: OriKad on Feb 27, 2010, 09:01 PM
Yep.  That'd be about what I paid, even though I ordered mine somewhere else.

Update on the build:  I got the vest 100% done other than attaching plates to it.  The flightsuit's almost done.  Just need to get a zipper so I can put it on and mark positions for the pockets.  I'll have pics of both once I have that done.
Title: Re: Rebel Pilot Style Soft Parts (Yes, it's a Mando)
Post by: Chucko on Feb 28, 2010, 04:33 AM
I like where your going with this I had very similar ideas, but with the pre vizsla, Jango and a mando pilot it is hard focusing on just one at a time. I have the helmet in the works though.
Title: Re: Rebel Pilot Style Soft Parts (Yes, it's a Mando)
Post by: Ha'sid on Mar 01, 2010, 05:24 PM
There is not one part of anis costume that is black, its all shades of brown.
Title: Re: Rebel Pilot Style Soft Parts (Yes, it's a Mando)
Post by: OriKad on Mar 01, 2010, 06:30 PM
Correct.  The argument could be made that none of Vader's costume is black either, but that's just being colorifically pedantic.

Anyway, they're Anakin-style boots because they have the same cut and pattern as the ones Anakin wore.  I got the black ones because A: Rebel pilots in ANH wear black boots (WWII German marching boots to be exact) and B: I couldn't afford reproduction German boots...

I have to save money to fill my left sleeve tool pocket with a sonic screwdriver (It's a tool!  And we run into a couple Doctors at the cons in the area... taptaptaptap, taptaptaptap...), and a laser screwdriver (The Master's.), and a bit of a broken socket wrench.  I have the broken socket wrench already.

Yes.  I'm a geek, married to a British geek.
Title: Re: Rebel Pilot Style Soft Parts (Yes, it's a Mando)
Post by: Aramys Strael on Mar 01, 2010, 06:46 PM
That is a good price on those boots. Why are they so cheap? Because they are polyurethane, basically the same stuff that those cheap 911 costumes boots are made of. I truly hope that I am wrong, but I don't think so.

The problem with those cheap boots is that they tend to blow out after a few outings. They are really meant to be that Halloween costume piece that is seldom used, as Halloween costumes go.

I don't want to sound like a jerk, just trying to prepare you for something that you may not have anticipated. I found out the hard way why one should never use those cheaper vinyl/polyurethane boots (no matter how good the look, or how spot-on accurate they are). You end up spending more in the long run everytime you have to replace them.

Just something to consider.

Title: Re: Rebel Pilot Style Soft Parts (Yes, it's a Mando)
Post by: OriKad on Mar 01, 2010, 07:45 PM
I must have had better experience with cheap polyurethane boots, or I'm a lot easier on my footwear.  I have a pair of even cheaper PU boots for my Jedi that I wore most of the winter because they were the only boots tall enough to not let the snow in.  On top of that, repairs can be made either on the fly, or when I get home... and the greatest part of cheap boots wearing out is that once they do, I can rip out the seams and make a pattern.

Thanks for the advice though.  I appreciate being looked out for.
Title: Re: Rebel Pilot Style Soft Parts (Yes, it's a Mando)
Post by: Aramys Strael on Mar 01, 2010, 07:54 PM
Not a problem. I've always like those Anakin style boots and would love to get a pair for my own JEdi costume that I'd like to finish. I just don't like the hefty pricetag that comes with those kind of boots. I'd much rather stick to officer style boots, but they are so boring when doing a Jedi. I'd almost get these boots for the facings, but again that is kind of expensive for just one piece of those boots.

But you do make a good point.... the material can always be used for some sort of pattern later on down the road!

Judging by the phone number, this company is local to me. I am not sure if this is the same store that is in a mall, not too far from my work, or not. But it is close enough that I should check them out.
Title: Re: Rebel Pilot Style Soft Parts (Yes, it's a Mando)
Post by: Dar'manda on Mar 01, 2010, 10:57 PM
Ori and/or Tav,.... Would german 'jack' boots work? If so, get me your size. The comissar for my old WWII re-enactment unit keeps a lot of 'contraband' for when we brought prospective members to the Front. If he has them in your size, he used to only charge $30-$40 usually.
Title: Re: Rebel Pilot Style Soft Parts (Yes, it's a Mando)
Post by: lonewolf1183 on Mar 02, 2010, 08:46 AM
Great minds think alike!  I had sketched out a pilot mando myself a few months ago and have had it on the back burner to be worked on.  Same thoughts here with the Xwing style flak vest to mount the plates to, crash harness around the legs.  Its good to see others working on coming up with a really good concept that will definitely feel very 'in universe' for Star Wars.  Can't wait to see more of how you're going to plan yours out.  I always enjoy seeing how different people make their solutions to the same problem. (Its the product designer side of me- always fascinating to see different end results of the same item) :)
Title: Re: Rebel Pilot Style Soft Parts (Yes, it's a Mando)
Post by: OriKad on Mar 02, 2010, 09:06 AM
Jackboots would do.  I've already paid for the PU boots, so I'm not looking for others yet... but I may want to sometime in the future.  If you want, Tav, I could make a pattern for the facings once mine get here.  Then you could color and material match better than cannibalizing these.
Title: Re: Rebel Pilot Style Soft Parts (Yes, it's a Mando)
Post by: Aramys Strael on Mar 02, 2010, 11:09 AM
Ijaat: I have some pebble grained jackboots that I got years ago. Unless these were smooth grained, I'd jump on it.

Orikad: that would be really cool. Much appreciated, ner vod. Once you get your boots and you don't mind doing a pattern rubbing, I could do something with it. Thanks!
Title: Re: Rebel Pilot Style Soft Parts (Yes, it's a Mando)
Post by: Tassone Phoenix on Mar 02, 2010, 10:30 PM
I have been watching this with great anticipation. I love the rebel fighter look so I want to see this come true. I have seen sketches of rebel style Mando helmets, but I haven't seen a rebel inspired Mando come to fruition yet. Good luck!
Title: Re: Rebel Pilot Style Soft Parts (Yes, it's a Mando)
Post by: OriKad on Mar 03, 2010, 09:01 AM
Thanks for the well-wishes, and sorry I haven't shown more progress yet.  I still need to go out and get that zipper.
Title: Re: Rebel Pilot Style Soft Parts (Yes, it's a Mando)
Post by: OriKad on Mar 10, 2010, 08:19 PM
Finally got that zipper!  And I put it on, and stitched in all the velcro bits, and got all but the thigh pockets done, which I'm about to get to work on.  I even have a pic!

And a point of advice to any guys making their own 1 piece flightsuit:  If you can, get a double zipper.  It makes it possible to go to the bathroom without too much manipulation.

(http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad120/MikeBullian/Mandalorian%20Rebel%20Pilot%20Build/flightsuit.jpg)
Title: Re: Rebel Pilot Style Soft Parts (Yes, it's a Mando)
Post by: Tassone Phoenix on Mar 10, 2010, 11:58 PM
Looking pretty cool.
Title: Re: Rebel Pilot Style Soft Parts (Yes, it's a Mando)
Post by: ray'K on Mar 11, 2010, 09:52 AM
crikey!
i might commission you to do my flight suit!!
Title: Re: Rebel Pilot Style Soft Parts (Yes, it's a Mando)
Post by: Aramys Strael on Mar 11, 2010, 07:57 PM
Hey yeah... same here!  ;D
Title: Re: Rebel Pilot Style Soft Parts (Yes, it's a Mando)
Post by: ray'K on Mar 12, 2010, 04:18 PM
you need to make some cash with this talent!
Title: Re: Rebel Pilot Style Soft Parts (Yes, it's a Mando)
Post by: OriKad on Mar 12, 2010, 04:55 PM
I used to make money with my sewing when I did costumes and repairs for the joust company I worked for.  Anyway, the vest was REALLY simple to sew and the flightsuit is essentially a pajama pants pattern stitched onto a dress shirt pattern and darted at the waist for fit... and with the ribbed bits down the sleeves... that's a bit of quilter's batting in a strip of fabric with lots of horizontal lines.  Actually, the texture of the vest is the same trick with quilter's batting except for the front, which is cotton piping in fabric sleeves made by simple pleating and stitching in the pleat valleys.

I might entertain flightsuit commissions sometime, though I do kinda suck at making them comfy for anything but my 6'1", 170lb frame.
Title: Re: Rebel Pilot Style Soft Parts (Yes, it's a Mando)
Post by: ray'K on Mar 13, 2010, 03:37 AM
"yo! i don't know whad'you just said kid...."
seamster's talk means "blah-blah-blah," to me!
Title: Re: Rebel Pilot Style Soft Parts (Yes, it's a Mando)
Post by: OriKad on Mar 13, 2010, 12:01 PM
If you think my tailor-talk is perplexing, don't try talking to Shan about horses. :)

Anyway, the top of the flightsuit is pretty much a plain old dress shirt.  I actually took apart one of my old school shirts and traced it onto the orange fabric to make the pattern.   The bottom is from a pajama pants pattern that I had, and the two parts are just sewn together at the waist.  Darting, the act of essentially taking a triangle of material out, is a lot like folding a dart-style paper airplane.  It creates a curve in a flat surface.

The ribbed bits on the sleeves are made by using quilter's batting, which is essentially thin polyester filling like you'd find in a blanket or (obviously) quilt, and sewing a whole lot of horizontal lines across it, cause the batting makes the fabric go up, and the stitching pulls it back down.  The same was done on the vest back.  The more-raised front of the vest is another sheet of fabric pleated a lot like a kilt and filled in with what's essentially thick cushiony string (the piping).

Is that layman-y enough?  Ooh, layman-y, I wonder if it's anything like lemony?  With my usual verbal ability it's probably more like being smashed in the head with a slice of lemon wrapped around a gold brick.
Title: Re: Rebel Pilot Style Soft Parts (Yes, it's a Mando)
Post by: ray'K on Mar 13, 2010, 12:32 PM
makes more sense!
(that gold brick hurt......can i keep it?!)
Title: Re: Rebel Pilot Style Soft Parts (Yes, it's a Mando)
Post by: TheMandoMan on Mar 13, 2010, 01:01 PM
I've always wanted to try a Pan Galactic Gargle Blaster...

You have some serious sewing skills!  I barely got by making my vest.  Great job on both!
Title: Re: Rebel Pilot Style Soft Parts (Yes, it's a Mando)
Post by: OriKad on Mar 13, 2010, 02:51 PM
Sure, keep the brick... and all you gotta do is keep practicing with the sewing.  Sew everything you can get your grubby little mitts on.  Find a scrap of fabric and make something, anything with it.  You'll be as good at sewing as I am within a year.
Title: Re: Rebel Pilot Style Soft Parts (Yes, it's a Mando)
Post by: Arketh on Mar 13, 2010, 03:14 PM
That's a killer flightsuit. Good detail, and the proper fit sells it.
Title: Re: Rebel Pilot Style Soft Parts (Yes, it's a Mando)
Post by: OriKad on Mar 28, 2011, 09:50 PM
I was gonna post a new thread, but it is soft parts for this build.  Ladies and gentlemen, I present an example of how to do soft knees:

Left knee, outside. looking down my leg.
(http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad120/MikeBullian/softknees1.jpg)

Front view.
(http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad120/MikeBullian/softknees2.jpg)

Back view (The strap is 2 inches wide)
(http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad120/MikeBullian/softknees3.jpg)

Taken off.
(http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad120/MikeBullian/softknees4.jpg)

This took me about 3 hours start to finish, not counting breaks.  The main knee cup is made of three panels, with two additional side panels, a folded finishing top and bottom, and a back strap.  The main three panels are two layers of fabric with quilters' batting inbetween them to get the ribbed look (just like on my sleeves and vest as mentioned before).  The side panels are fabric with a craft foam insert for stiffness, and the back strap is just two layers of fabric.

I intend to tack them (with a few stitches in the middle of the top) to my flightsuit so they don't fall down.  Feel free to ask questions.
Title: Re: Rebel Pilot Style Soft Parts (Yes, it's a Mando)
Post by: Venku Cuyir on Mar 30, 2011, 06:23 PM
I really love these soft parts!
I need to learn to sew -.-
Title: Re: Rebel Pilot Style Soft Parts (Yes, it's a Mando)
Post by: Ori Dart on Mar 30, 2011, 08:26 PM
Great suit so far and really cool soft knee pads! Really looks good!
Title: Re: Rebel Pilot Style Soft Parts (Yes, it's a Mando)
Post by: OriKad on Mar 30, 2011, 09:18 PM
If I keep on this pace building it, it'll be done this time next year!  That's what I get for having so many projects going at once. :)

Seriously.  In actual man-hours spent making this kit, I COULD have done it in about a week.
Title: Re: Rebel Pilot Style Soft Parts (Yes, it's a Mando)
Post by: ray'K on Mar 30, 2011, 10:53 PM
ori......MAKE MONEY BY WH*RING YER SKILLS OUT!
Title: Re: Rebel Pilot Style Soft Parts (Yes, it's a Mando)
Post by: Cyrus Rang on Mar 30, 2011, 11:28 PM
ori......MAKE MONEY BUY WH*RING YER SKILLS OUT!

Heck...Id buy a set of dark grey soft knees!