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Mandalorian Armor => Soft Parts => Topic started by: jango draul on Jun 25, 2010, 07:35 AM

Title: boots?
Post by: jango draul on Jun 25, 2010, 07:35 AM
can we use knee high boots like these because im gona get them anyway for halloween so i can do a imperial officer so i wanted to know if i could use them for a mando costume too
Title: Re: boots?
Post by: The REEL Mereel Skirata on Jun 25, 2010, 11:25 AM
Lace free is the way to be! Those should work just fine.
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Post by: jango draul on Jun 25, 2010, 11:31 AM
alright thanks man
Title: Re: boots?
Post by: Corvax on Jun 25, 2010, 03:41 PM
For a Mando those could work.  Not really good for an Imperial Officer though unless you lose the bell.  Hard riding boots are the way to go for those.
Title: Re: boots?
Post by: Drake on Jun 30, 2010, 08:22 PM
What about German Jackboots? I do WWII reenacting (3rd Armored and AfrikaKorps) and was wondering if those would work for an Imperial Officer. I use them with my Mando from time to time, and personally think that they look good with my kit.

The jackboots I bought were East German Officer boots, and only cost $50 USD. ;)
Title: Re: boots?
Post by: Peregrinus on Jun 30, 2010, 09:38 PM
The riding boots were worn by the olive-khaki-uniformed officers, like Tarkin and Piett and Veers. The jackboots were West German Border Guard (Bundeswehr) boots of the 1960s/'70s style and they were only worn by the black-uniformed Stormtrooper officers. Here (http://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/index.php?topic=20638.0) are mine, thanks to Tomoe (who I still need to repay for shipping costs >_> ).

--Jonah
Title: Re: boots?
Post by: Drake on Jul 01, 2010, 01:45 PM
Those are neat. In that case, the WWII accurate jackboots will not work because they don't have that buckle, and they have a different shape. Oh well, I could always use another set of jackboots.  :D

Thanks Jonah. ;)

-- Drake
Title: Re: boots?
Post by: Ordo Skirata on Jul 01, 2010, 04:50 PM
The riding boots were worn by the olive-khaki-uniformed officers, like Tarkin and Piett and Veers. The jackboots were West German Border Guard (Bundeswehr) boots of the 1960s/'70s style and they were only worn by the black-uniformed Stormtrooper officers. Here (http://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/index.php?topic=20638.0) are mine, thanks to Tomoe (who I still need to repay for shipping costs >_> ).

--Jonah

Only been like 6 months now hasn't it?
Title: Re: boots?
Post by: Peregrinus on Jul 01, 2010, 06:24 PM
Yeah... >_> I asked her to pick them up for me, but hold off on sending them until I could pay for that. And she sent them anyway. Breakdown in communication. I paid for the boots right off, and told her I'd get the shipping amount to her as soon as I could. I hadn't thought it woudl take this long (IRL drama going on since late February that has now, for good or ill, pretty much wrapped up, but she should have her PayPal notification within the next couple hours.

Back on topic -- Drake, do you have pics up of your boots? They might be "close enough" to pass 50st CRL standards.

And Draul -- do those boots you showed in the first post have the cuffs able to flip up? Or are they fixed folded over like that? Swashbuckler-style boots might be nice with armour plates on them... but I'd say in the "up" position. Folded boot-cuffs dont' look very Mando to me (and certainly not Imperial).

--Jonah
Title: Re: boots?
Post by: Corvax on Jul 02, 2010, 07:44 PM
I have a pair of the East German Parade boots and they look spiffing with Star Wars costumes like Rebel Fleet Trooper. 

However my first Dragon*con I wore them and was staying 5 blocks away from the Hyatt.  I had forgotten I had insoles in them and they pushed my feet up higher in the boot than expected.  End result?  Was not pretty.
Title: Re: boots?
Post by: Drake on Jul 02, 2010, 10:03 PM
Here they are:
(http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o54/Drake-Doc/S6303395.jpg)

** I AM IN NO WAY ASSOCIATED WITH THE NAZI PARTY, OR ANY AFFILIATION THEREOF. I AM SIMPLY A MILITARY HISTORIAN; SOMEONE HAS TO PORTRAY THE BAD GUYS**
Title: Re: boots?
Post by: jango draul on Jul 02, 2010, 10:15 PM
What about German Jackboots? I do WWII reenacting (3rd Armored and AfrikaKorps) and was wondering if those would work for an Imperial Officer. I use them with my Mando from time to time, and personally think that they look good with my kit.

The jackboots I bought were East German Officer boots, and only cost $50 USD. ;)

actually i did some searchin around and for the imperial officers they used real WWII german officer boots for them  but i wanted to go auth and the ones i find that are auth not repros are like $500 and i cant find 12-13 (i have big feet) but repos are like 100 bucks where i find them unless u get a full WWII german officer costume for reenactment and its like 800 for the hat tunic pants boots and some other stuff
Title: Re: boots?
Post by: Drake on Jul 02, 2010, 11:10 PM
Well I, Sir, am your link to all things WWII.   ;D
Here are where I got mine (Guard boots), but they only go to size 11.  :-\

http://www.tridentmilitary.com/German-WW2/Field-Gear-Boots.html

The $500 pair you keep finding are dead-on repros, and usually come in brown. The reason for this is because German soldiers applied black shoe polish to make them black.

I would not suggest you buy any boots that are East German. If you are looking for WWII accurate boots, the EG boots are not accurate at all. They usually have a pebbled finish, where in WWII they were smooth. (As with Imperial Officer boots)

How much money are you willing to pay? The German Guard boots are the closest to WWII era jackboots, so $70 dollars will be the cheapest. I have many more links, but the prices are $200 and up for WWII era repros.  :-[

-- Drake
Title: Re: boots?
Post by: Salvo Mereel on Jul 02, 2010, 11:26 PM
Hey, you can make some good money off of nick'ing soldiers boots. Look at Corpral Nobby Nobbs.  ;D
Title: Re: boots?
Post by: Corvax on Jul 03, 2010, 07:40 PM
Fact:  Costuming and reenacting is not a poor man's game. 
Title: Re: boots?
Post by: Drake on Jul 03, 2010, 07:53 PM
Fact:  Costuming and reenacting is not a poor man's game. 

That, my friend, is correct.
Title: Re: boots?
Post by: Mafio on Jul 03, 2010, 10:15 PM
Did i hear anizing about Jackbootz?    ;)


Title: Re: boots?
Post by: jango draul on Jul 04, 2010, 12:18 AM
yeah i really want to get into reenacting i found a store that sells packages for like 600 for helmet boots tunic and pants but thats it and i found the guns and the mp40 is all i can find its about 300 for a kit and 400 put together and the walter p38 blank guns are about 200 so just for the weapons about 500-600 and for the whole thing 1400(need blank ammo and extra mags)


http://www.thehistorybunker.co.uk/acatalog/WW2_German_Uniform_Packages.html they have a ton of sets there

Title: Re: boots?
Post by: Drake on Jul 04, 2010, 12:42 AM
It is very expensive when it come to German reenacting. I chose Deutsches AfrikaKorps because no one in this area does it, and a bunch of my chums do British (which fought the DAK). The picture shows all of my current gear (except for my helmet and rifle), as the equipment is expensive. Most people tend to steer clear of SS, unless they are "real" Nazis. And by far the most expensive German kit is the Fallshirmjager (paratrooper).

The History Bunker is a great place.

This is the largest forum for reenactors, and also contains all suppliers in the US. You may want to check the links for boots and such:

http://ww2reenactors.proboards.com/index.cgi

Oh, and I bought my uniform from 1944 Newsletter; Luke has the best prices I have seen; I bought my entire uniform (pants, shirt, tunic, hat, and all insignia) for a little over $250. ;)

Hope this helps. :)

-- Drake
Title: Re: boots?
Post by: jango draul on Jul 04, 2010, 12:58 AM
ok thank you cause i know they have reenactors fest in chicago every year im gona try and go i hear they have great stuff there but im just lookin for now
Title: Re: boots?
Post by: Mafio on Jul 04, 2010, 06:33 AM
A friend of mine is into  Reenacting  WW2    but  makes also  semi-profesional videos  with it  http://www.youtube.com/user/UrlagEntertainments

He knows that  buying  Repro-uniforms  is  too expensive   so  he  make  most  thins himself

The Tunics for example  are mostly  Jackets of the former GDR  but  with some cuts and stiches.  The Effects and Rankbars are mostly made out of cloth and hotglue    or   casted copys  of  original  Effects.  Guns are Woodbuilds  And the rest is Garbage found on Garage Sale.

So in this way he wont spent 600 or 800 Dollars for one complete Gear      morethan 100$  is     unlikely 
Title: Re: boots?
Post by: Dar'manda on Jul 04, 2010, 06:51 AM
The riding boots were worn by the olive-khaki-uniformed officers, like Tarkin and Piett and Veers. The jackboots were West German Border Guard (Bundeswehr) boots of the 1960s/'70s style and they were only worn by the black-uniformed Stormtrooper officers. Here (http://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/index.php?topic=20638.0) are mine, thanks to Tomoe (who I still need to repay for shipping costs >_> ).

--Jonah

Got it, thank you!
Title: Re: boots?
Post by: Drake on Jul 04, 2010, 01:33 PM
A friend of mine is into  Reenacting  WW2    but  makes also  semi-profesional videos  with it  http://www.youtube.com/user/UrlagEntertainments

He knows that  buying  Repro-uniforms  is  too expensive   so  he  make  most  thins himself

The Tunics for example  are mostly  Jackets of the former GDR  but  with some cuts and stiches.  The Effects and Rankbars are mostly made out of cloth and hotglue    or   casted copys  of  original  Effects.  Guns are Woodbuilds  And the rest is Garbage found on Garage Sale.

So in this way he wont spent 600 or 800 Dollars for one complete Gear      morethan 100$  is     unlikely 

That is pretty neat Jaro. I wish I hadn't have payed hundreds of dollars on uniforms I rarely wear.  :D
Title: Re: boots?
Post by: jango draul on Jul 04, 2010, 05:23 PM
i would use it alot for halloween to scare the crap out of the people down the street
and for reenactment and i also do indy films
Title: Re: boots?
Post by: Arden Fisk on Jul 05, 2010, 09:06 AM
Hint: Scaring your neighbors by pretending to be a Nazi soldier is probably not a good idea.  They will misunderstand, think you're serious, and then you'll be 'that wierdo Nazi kid' forever.

In context-- like WW2 reenacting-- it's perfectly fine.  but wearing that kind of stuff around the town...  well, not so much.  :P
Title: Re: boots?
Post by: Mafio on Jul 05, 2010, 09:22 AM
funny enough:   The Neighbors  of the Friend of mine   get used   when  Nazis  and Sovjets  are loading  there gear and equipment  into there cars  in front of the house.    guess thats called a jester's  license   ;D
Title: Re: boots?
Post by: Drake on Jul 05, 2010, 02:24 PM
Even here in Florida we constantly get thanked for our service (when we leave the hotel room or are en route to an event), even when I am in my German uniform.  People these days...  :rolleyes:

Even the old people ask me if I am in "the service" and if I have gone to Afghanistan.  :D
Title: Re: boots?
Post by: jango draul on Jul 05, 2010, 03:44 PM
lol they are behind the times the only thing  i hate about the new uniforms is the digital camo i just think its really ugly and i dont think it camos much
Title: Re: boots?
Post by: Mafio on Jul 05, 2010, 04:04 PM
(http://www.soldiersperspective.us/images/December2006/ACU.jpg)

AFAIK the digital camo  is no pattern because  its  made  randomly.    There exist camera's which can  spot out unatural colors (like black)  and  Pattern    (but face it... you will never have the problem with  an enemy whos actually using this tech in the next 50 jears )

The digital camo  is more focused  on  tricking your eye  more than  an  round and pattern   Camo  can do.


Title: Re: boots?
Post by: jango draul on Jul 06, 2010, 12:50 AM
ive also been seeing stuff on a guy who created a fabric that can bend radio waves if he makes improvements on it soon camo will be exactly invisable and u wont see anything except a mussle flash maybe
Title: Re: boots?
Post by: Kora on Jul 06, 2010, 01:54 AM
So, how about those mandalorian boots?   :P  ;) *chuckle*
Title: Re: boots?
Post by: jango draul on Jul 06, 2010, 03:18 AM
im still lookin cant u find some jack boots at a horse riding store
Title: Re: boots?
Post by: Kora on Jul 06, 2010, 02:24 PM
Tall equestrian boots can start at about $70 for the really cheapo ones and get up into the hundreds of dollars fast. Could probably try to find some used, but I don't know how comfy tall riding boots are to walk in all day. Even my ankle ones aren't something I like walking around in for more time than it takes to saddle up and go. Not that they're extremely uncomfortable, but one can find other boots that are more so.

Could always look for some leather half chaps, too. Though some of those are just as expensive as the boots themselves.

ETA - Also, if you don't mind used, ebay. Search for tall leather boots, though you'll probably have more luck finding what you're looking for in the Costume section rather than Men's Shoes.
Title: Re: boots?
Post by: Peregrinus on Jul 06, 2010, 03:02 PM
Riding boota also tend ot not come in larger sizes. For many makers, anything over 12 has to be custom ordered. Hence, $$$. Fun Star Wars trivia, notice how many shots of Tarkin don't show his lower legs. Since they couldn't find boots big enough for his feet, most of his scenes were shot with him wearing his slippers. For the few long shots, he crammed his feet into riding boots about two sizes too small.

--Jonah
Title: Re: boots?
Post by: Drake on Jul 06, 2010, 04:19 PM
Exactly. The ACU digital design is supposed to disrupt the human silhouette from an aerial camera. The pixels are supposed to camouflage the wearer from drone's and other aircraft, both UAV and manned. Apparently it works, as it hasn't been upgraded too extensively since its inception.