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Mandalorian Armor => Equipment & Accessories => Jetpacks/Backpacks => Topic started by: Johan Kordav on Aug 31, 2010, 04:24 PM

Title: RC-ish looking backpack (ysalamir support pack)
Post by: Johan Kordav on Aug 31, 2010, 04:24 PM
(http://i954.photobucket.com/albums/ae30/kordav/Image08212010231126.jpg)
(http://i954.photobucket.com/albums/ae30/kordav/Image08212010230951.jpg)
(http://i954.photobucket.com/albums/ae30/kordav/Image08212010230729.jpg)
(http://i954.photobucket.com/albums/ae30/kordav/Image08212010230714.jpg)
(http://i954.photobucket.com/albums/ae30/kordav/Image08212010230644.jpg)

i was originally gonna make this a jet pack but the Tag turned it upside down and and gave me the wonderful idea to turn it into a backpack, Kraam also told me about the ysalamiri and im going to make it into a pack to contain and support one. will have more pics soon.
Title: Re: RC-ish looking backpack
Post by: Dar'manda on Aug 31, 2010, 04:34 PM
I freaking want one now to work on. :D  While it's not "spot on"...it's definitely got the look of an RC backpack when the handle is facing down.

Johan...what model vaccuum was that?  Does it say on any of the panels?
Title: Re: RC-ish looking backpack
Post by: Johan Kordav on Aug 31, 2010, 05:04 PM
ok i did some research and it looks like a Sears Kenmore Magicord canister vacuum cleaner the model number is 116.26941, or atleast thats what it looks like. i believe its from the 70s, i'd kno more if Kraam didnt wipe everything off the front
Title: Re: RC-ish looking backpack
Post by: Dar'manda on Aug 31, 2010, 05:38 PM
Thanks!
Title: Re: RC-ish looking backpack
Post by: lightning667 on Aug 31, 2010, 06:34 PM
looks to me like a vacum compartment thingy, good luck with it, i cant wait to see it completed  :)
Title: Re: RC-ish looking backpack
Post by: Johan Kordav on Aug 31, 2010, 06:39 PM
i need to get a dremel tool before i can do too much more work
Title: Re: RC-ish looking backpack
Post by: lightning667 on Aug 31, 2010, 06:51 PM
what do u plan on cutting out from it ? in my unprofessional opinion (lol) id say to just add some stuff to it and not cut anything out of it, but yea, what kind of direction are going with the backpack ?

ohh and if u wanna find a dremel, hit up your local flea market or your neighborhood garage sales, virtual gold mines.  ;D
Title: Re: RC-ish looking backpack
Post by: Johan Kordav on Aug 31, 2010, 07:01 PM
(http://i954.photobucket.com/albums/ae30/kordav/Mobile%20Uploads/1283295672.jpg)

this is what im looking at doing, its mostly gonna be used and a life support system for a ysalimir, i dont need or really plan to cut out anything else from the body, i just need it to chop up parts to put on
Title: Re: RC-ish looking backpack (ysalamir support pack)
Post by: Hagen Nor'ak on Sep 01, 2010, 05:54 AM
If my memory serves me correct, all that was needed for the ysalimir was a branch from one of the type of trees they hang out on. Somehing about thats how they got the nutriants they needed to survive off of. So they were just thrown into a bag with said tree branch if I remember the books and comic correctly. That being said, the base you got there would bad shebs for any type of pack you want to make out of it. Was a really nice find there.

Have a good one,
Hagen
Title: Re: RC-ish looking backpack (ysalamir support pack)
Post by: Harro_Jorir'gal on Sep 01, 2010, 12:30 PM
It was a tree branch hooked up to a sort of life support system. My suggestion would be some fish tank tubing hooked into the pack and a fake piece of wood. Not sure about the ysalimiri though. Not much cannon art of them I don't think.
Title: Re: RC-ish looking backpack (ysalamir support pack)
Post by: Vode Bartika on Sep 01, 2010, 12:37 PM
It was a tree branch hooked up to a sort of life support system. My suggestion would be some fish tank tubing hooked into the pack and a fake piece of wood. Not sure about the ysalimiri though. Not much cannon art of them I don't think.

Actually I found quite a bit of mages when I googled them.  Some from toys, and some from comics.  Canon enough I think.  There was even one with Thrawn as an action figure with the pack in the package.
Title: Re: RC-ish looking backpack (ysalamir support pack)
Post by: Frost K'Amon on Sep 01, 2010, 12:59 PM
Are you gona have a Yslamiri poking it's head out?
Title: Re: RC-ish looking backpack (ysalamir support pack)
Post by: Spanner Murraan on Sep 01, 2010, 01:04 PM
Some Sandblasted grapevine would work excellently as a substitute for Olbio wood.  it is very strong, and light, and can be found at any good pet store in the reptile section.

I also plan on making an Ysalamir to carry with me, maybe using some puppetry to make his head move or his eyes blink.

I cant wait to see how this turns out.
Title: Re: RC-ish looking backpack (ysalamir support pack)
Post by: Frost K'Amon on Sep 01, 2010, 03:40 PM
Yeah. Always confused me when I was younger, reading the Heir books and looking at the comic and being like "How can Thrawn be holding a yslamiri like a pet? you can't hold them without a backpack I thought..." Was a long time till I figured out it was just continuity errors.

Spanner, I might suggest rooting the Yslamiri to some kind of treebranch or something that you've hollowed out, and put mechanical clamps onto and stuff. I never thought it made sense that it took for ever to figure out how to transplant the yslamiri onto a mechanical frame when one could literally just cut off a square of tree and cyborg it.
Title: Re: RC-ish looking backpack (ysalamir support pack)
Post by: Harro_Jorir'gal on Sep 01, 2010, 05:44 PM
Very true, you actually can't remove them from the branch if memory serves me correct, their claws grow into it or something like that.
Title: Re: RC-ish looking backpack (ysalamir support pack)
Post by: Spanner Murraan on Sep 01, 2010, 06:20 PM
The Wookieepedia article on them says this:
Quote
Ysalamiri sank their claws into the Olbio trees on which they lived and drew nutrients. It was very difficult to remove a ysalamir from its tree without killing it, although Talon Karrde's smugglers found a way, enabling Grand Admiral Thrawn to do it as well.

I take a lot of Creative license when writing the character of Agro (Spanner's pet Ysalamir, based on my Bearded Dragon of the same name).  Since I view any fan fiction (such as our character back stories and RP's) as parallel universes, like The Ultimate Marvel universe or the new Trek universe,  I feel that it allows me to add some depth to subjects i feel are lacking.  I have been keeping and breeding various reptiles for 20 years now, so I like to add a lot of touches from species I have observed into the character.  And - I wont lie to you - I also modify it to suit the needs of the story.

There is so litte written about them, and what there is is fairly inconsistant.  For instance, Thawn's didnt have any back legs, and the Wildlife of Star Wars: A field Guide clearly shows one around someones neck as a pet, but other sources show them with 4 legs, and say they cant leave the trees.  So I kinda combined the two with my hypothosis, that they need the trees to survive, and getting them off the tree can kill them, but they can detach and move freely if they chose to.

Anyhow, I think that tank will make a very cool pack, Johan, and I can't wait to see what you do with it.
Title: Re: RC-ish looking backpack (ysalamir support pack)
Post by: Johan Kordav on Sep 02, 2010, 12:49 AM
(http://i954.photobucket.com/albums/ae30/kordav/Mobile%20Uploads/1283401712.jpg)

i was planning on put a small (4 to 5 inches) lizard toy on a branch in this part of the pack, i was thinking it would be like a sort of cage for it, and the rest of the top would be various nobs and what not devoted to keeping it alive while the bottom would have a hose going to my gauntlet for a flame thrower.

some pictures i found of them:
(http://i954.photobucket.com/albums/ae30/kordav/Ysalamiri1.jpg)
(http://i954.photobucket.com/albums/ae30/kordav/ysalamiri2.jpg)

the wookieepedia page about them says they're 50 cm (about 20 inches) on average and put out a bubble up to 10 meters in radius (about 33 feet), so i figured one about 4 to 5 inches long would put out a bubble of about 6 to 8 feet in radius, keeping me safe from any jedi.
Title: Re: RC-ish looking backpack (ysalamir support pack)
Post by: Spanner Murraan on Sep 02, 2010, 07:27 AM
It appears to have some conflicting info on the Wookieepedia page:

The first sentence under the Anatomy Section of the Wookieepedia page has them at 90-120 centimeters (3-4 feet, or about the size of the average iguana or Savanah Monitor), and infact, The Wildlife of Star Wars: A Field Guide confirms this longer length.
Title: Re: RC-ish looking backpack (ysalamir support pack)
Post by: Johan Kordav on Sep 02, 2010, 04:13 PM
It appears to have some conflicting info on the Wookieepedia page:

The first sentence under the Anatomy Section of the Wookieepedia page has them at 90-120 centimeters (3-4 feet, or about the size of the average iguana or Savanah Monitor), and infact, The Wildlife of Star Wars: A Field Guide confirms this longer length.

thats what it says the grow up to, if you look to the right of that under the picture it says their average length is 0.5 meters
Title: Re: RC-ish looking backpack (ysalamir support pack)
Post by: Shiv Thano on Sep 02, 2010, 05:50 PM
I miss the times when there weren't any pictures of the little creatures.  I had always imagined them as more koala-esque creatures with a sad sort of ugly cuteness.  We used to use those clingy little koala backpacks at con to represent ysalamiri....we also used to throw koala plushies at jedi at cons to "take away their powers".  Before the pictures everyone "got" the joke.  One girl even yelled out "But I was using the force to hold my bladder!", crossed her legs and scurried off to the bathroom wailing comicly.
Title: Re: RC-ish looking backpack (ysalamir support pack)
Post by: Thaxos on Dec 06, 2010, 04:50 PM
Hey, any new progress? I've actually started work on one for myself too, didn't know anyone else was working on these, other than my fellow clan member Thorfastr for his son.
Title: Re: RC-ish looking backpack (ysalamir support pack)
Post by: Johan Kordav on Dec 06, 2010, 10:15 PM
certain space ship repairts have put me behind a bit, unfortunately
Title: Re: RC-ish looking backpack (ysalamir support pack)
Post by: Thaxos on Dec 06, 2010, 10:22 PM
certain space ship repairts have put me behind a bit, unfortunately
Bummer, I look forward to seeing further progress.
Title: Re: RC-ish looking backpack (ysalamir support pack)
Post by: Johan Kordav on Dec 06, 2010, 10:32 PM
Bummer, I look forward to seeing further progress.

thank you, i do too, do you have a WIP up for yours?
Title: Re: RC-ish looking backpack (ysalamir support pack)
Post by: Thaxos on Dec 06, 2010, 10:52 PM
thank you, i do too, do you have a WIP up for yours?

Haha not yet, too lazy!  ;)
Title: Re: RC-ish looking backpack (ysalamir support pack)
Post by: Kav'an Hatfield on Feb 08, 2011, 09:51 PM
ahem....PM sent. 
Title: Re: RC-ish looking backpack (ysalamir support pack)
Post by: Drichar on Mar 01, 2012, 05:00 PM
Updates?
Hmmm...... Bearded Dragon, there's an idea, when the weathers nice enough my "Boba" can go trooping too ;)

(http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u94/sidrioswin/3c5e9292.jpg)
Title: Re: RC-ish looking backpack (ysalamir support pack)
Post by: Johan Kordav on Mar 01, 2012, 11:14 PM
Unfortunately i didnt have the time to work on this so i donated the pack to another merc
Title: Re: RC-ish looking backpack (ysalamir support pack)
Post by: Cin Vhe'rang on Mar 24, 2012, 11:58 PM
Some Sandblasted grapevine would work excellently as a substitute for Olbio wood.  it is very strong, and light, and can be found at any good pet store in the reptile section.

I also plan on making an Ysalamir to carry with me, maybe using some puppetry to make his head move or his eyes blink.

I cant wait to see how this turns out.
Just do what I'm planning on doing- making a little porta-cage for a ferret, then attaching it to a backpack.  Ferret, ysalamiri, same thing...
Title: Re: RC-ish looking backpack (ysalamir support pack)
Post by: JR on Mar 25, 2012, 12:36 AM
Ferret = furball
Ysalamiri = ball of scales
Title: Re: RC-ish looking backpack (ysalamir support pack)
Post by: ca_kormk on Apr 17, 2012, 08:17 PM
Ferret = furball
Ysalamiri = ball of scales

he could use it as some sort of sub-species or it could be geniticly modified ysalamari
Title: Re: RC-ish looking backpack (ysalamir support pack)
Post by: Kom'rk Orivod Ruusik on Jul 29, 2012, 10:54 AM
I was thinking of trying to sculpt a ysalamir and cast it in a gel like rubber. (Remember "Boglins", back in the 80's?) And if memory serves, the ysalamir was detatched from the Olbio using a method Thrawn learned from Mercs/Smugglers of Talon Karrde? The Back pack replaced the Olbio limb as the life support system.

I thought a cool variant, although VERY heavy would be a fish tank like pack with bubbles emitting from the bottom and the ysalamir floating in the middle with tubes and things like Weapon X, or Luke in the Bacta Tank.
One way this could be accomplished would be to use a very thin tank maybe just a centimeter or two of water for bubbles and a thin light. The rubber ysalamir suspended in a compartment on the other side of the tank, giving the illusion of being submerged. 

Anyway that's just my two-cents, and my wacky brain talking.  Looks like a great pack you got there!
Title: Re: RC-ish looking backpack (ysalamir support pack)
Post by: Novoc Mereel on Aug 08, 2012, 10:12 PM
This is super cool.  I'll be following this thread with interest.
Title: Re: RC-ish looking backpack (ysalamir support pack)
Post by: Dar'manda on Aug 10, 2012, 08:46 AM
Unfortunately the pack has been handed over to me as Johan said he didn't think he could finish it.  I'm going to be using it for a backpack for my legacy kit.  It's currently sitting in my basement awaiting work.
Title: Re: RC-ish looking backpack (ysalamir support pack)
Post by: Novoc Mereel on Aug 10, 2012, 02:27 PM
Well, you know... as long as we get to see it finished... ;D