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Title: Death Watch Super Commando
Post by: Voss626 on Jun 01, 2013, 07:20 PM
I just can't help myself, two animated clones and now I am tackling animated death watch :) Long Live the Clone Wars.

I will be building the Super Commando patterned after Darth Maul below. I have started with the following:
Blasters: Woodchuck with LED's (couldn't resist splurging on these)
Armor: KW Designs
Helmet: Eternal Armory
Flak Vest: Local Seamstress
Flight Suit: Arkady
Boots: Brahma from Wal-mart
Backpack: Eternal Armory - pending
Wrist Comlink - custom

I think that's the general parts list. With the exception of the backpack, I've set all of this in motion. I've collected a series of screen shots here for reference. There are a lot of shots with the various Death Watch characters because I need reference shots for the Wrist Comlink mentioned above.

Death Watch Screen Caps (http://"http://s135.photobucket.com/user/bswedorski/slideshow/Death%20Watch")

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q128/bswedorski/Death%20Watch/Mandalorian-super-commando_detail.png)

Oh and let's not forget the guns :)

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q128/bswedorski/Death%20Watch/IMG_0338.jpg)

...well that's just karma for ya, as I'm posting this pic my wife walked by my door and "shot" me with my own blasters.
Title: Re: Death Watch Super Commando
Post by: Voss626 on Jun 01, 2013, 07:21 PM
Updates:

My flight suit is officially on order hopefully I'll have that around the beginning of July. I met withmy local seamstress over the weekend to get the Flak Vest started. Here is the material I'm using for the vest. I went with a upholstery vinyl in a dull black color. I plan to make the belt out of the same material.

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q128/bswedorski/Death%20Watch/IMG_0342.jpg)

I finished trimming up and rough assembly on the second gauntlet. I haven't done much work yet on the communicator for the left gauntlet. Also, lesson learned while trimming my first gauntlet. On Kev's kit I took out all of the material between the two halves of the inside face. When I closed it there was a considerable gap so I went back in and glued in a backer which  needs to be trimmed down a little yet.

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q128/bswedorski/Death%20Watch/IMG_0395.jpg)

I began assembling the knees pieces. As I've had to shave down the return edges at the knees on both of the clone suits I've assembled from Kev, I wasn't suprised to learn I had to shim the knees a bit. This worked well for me as I wasn't keen on having a large bondo joint on the front of the knee. It seemed like a future crack waiting to happen. I basically just took some .1 think ABS and cut and pre-bent it into shape. I glued the two haves of the knee to the new front plate and the used my dremel to shape the plastic.

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q128/bswedorski/Death%20Watch/IMG_0398.jpg)

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q128/bswedorski/Death%20Watch/IMG_0400.jpg)

This knee on the right is still a work in process. I still need to  smooth out the edges and hit it with some bonod putty.

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q128/bswedorski/Death%20Watch/IMG_0401.jpg)

I also got the belt assembled over the weekend. Another valuable lesson from working with previous kits from Kevin...he's skinny :P So when I was trimming the belt I left myself a bit of extra breathing room. In the picture below the whole section between the lines is supposed to come out. As you can see I left about 3/4" on each side for comfort.

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q128/bswedorski/Death%20Watch/IMG_0402.jpg)

Finally, I trimmed up the boot armor and attached it to the boots. I prepped the boots first by rubbing them down with acetone to get rid of as many oils and such as possible. I then roughed up the areas with some sandpaper to help the glue adhere. I opted for E6000 to attach the armor. I haven't worked with it much previously but I've been told it should stay a bit flexible which sounded ideal for my shoes.

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q128/bswedorski/Death%20Watch/IMG_0403.jpg)

My helmet shows up later today, I'm looking forward to starting some preliminary work on the horns.
Title: Re: Death Watch Super Commando
Post by: Voss626 on Jun 01, 2013, 07:21 PM
And today's project.....

After assembling the forearms, I took measurements and mocked it up in AutoCAD. Using the screen caps, I proportioned the size of the communicator to Kev's to the top of the gauntlet. I used a base of 1/8" MDF board and then took a trip to the hardware to buy a few miscellaneous things. I wouldn't say the results are 100% screen accurate, I think it will get the job done. I still need to make the mounting bracket for this but that's for another day.

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q128/bswedorski/Death%20Watch/IMG_0419.jpg)

Assembled with primer

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q128/bswedorski/Death%20Watch/IMG_0420.jpg)

And on the gauntlet for reference.

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q128/bswedorski/Death%20Watch/IMG_0421.jpg)
Title: Re: Death Watch Super Commando
Post by: Rokeim Gekla on Jun 02, 2013, 10:03 AM
looking solid so far :)
Title: Re: Death Watch Super Commando
Post by: Niabi on Jun 02, 2013, 11:55 AM
Nice work vod ;) keep it up
Title: Re: Death Watch Super Commando
Post by: Ca'tra Firaxan on Jun 02, 2013, 11:59 AM
Nice work, ner vod. As much as I hate the DW, their kits are awesome. :laugh:
Title: Re: Death Watch Super Commando
Post by: Carid Vhett on Jun 05, 2013, 04:08 AM
Looking good vod.
Title: Re: Death Watch Super Commando
Post by: Voss626 on Jun 05, 2013, 07:52 PM
Getting close to the fun part! All of the parts have been primed and I've hit all of the pieces that will eventually be red with a coat of silver metallic. I'm hoping to put some quality time in this weekend on the painting of those parts. I've got a new helmet on order from Skirata Arms which I hope ships out this Friday. I've also got a backpack harness on order although I'm still waiting to source the back pack itself. I may end up being forced into a scratch build.

I've also finished up the comlink for the left gauntlet. After reviewing the pictures however, I believe I'm going to redo the "button" as I'm not entirely happy with it at the moment. There is also a screw head detail to be added which should be a quick trip to the hardware. Here are the pics of the comlink with the mounting tray.

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q128/bswedorski/Death%20Watch/IMG_0511.jpg)

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q128/bswedorski/Death%20Watch/IMG_0510.jpg)

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q128/bswedorski/Death%20Watch/IMG_0509.jpg)

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q128/bswedorski/Death%20Watch/IMG_0508.jpg)
Title: Re: Death Watch Super Commando
Post by: Nat'rii Ramikad on Jun 07, 2013, 05:04 AM
Looking good.
Title: Re: Death Watch Super Commando
Post by: Tact Kor on Jun 07, 2013, 05:43 AM
Great looking build vod,

Looks like it is going to be very solid.
Title: Re: Death Watch Super Commando
Post by: Solus Raam on Jun 07, 2013, 11:28 AM
I am intrigued.
Title: Re: Death Watch Super Commando
Post by: Voss626 on Jun 08, 2013, 10:58 AM
Got an early start today. I painted up my boots and did a color test for the red on the shins. I figured they would be the easiest thing to sand down and repaint if I didn't like the looks of them. I'm happy with the results and will be finish in up the red on the rest of the armor pieces over the weekend.

Paints used on Boots:

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q128/bswedorski/Death%20Watch/IMG_0512.jpg)

Paints used on the shins in the order they were applied. Note that all of the armor has been primed and has a coat of silver metallic applied.

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q128/bswedorski/Death%20Watch/IMG_0518.jpg)

The base coat of apple red was applied in a heavy mist but not enough to fully cover the silver. The colonial red was applied in a light dusting over the whole piece. The Claret Wine was laid down in blotchy patterns to simulate the Clone Wars rendering. I then hit the piece with the dark gray on few specific areas and did a light misting of the black over the gray. This is after the apple red:

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q128/bswedorski/Death%20Watch/IMG_0514.jpg)

This photo shows the three coats of red:

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q128/bswedorski/Death%20Watch/IMG_0515.jpg)

This is the finished result after sanding the pieces and rubbing them down with the palm of my hand.

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q128/bswedorski/Death%20Watch/IMG_0519.jpg)

Oh and completely off topic, I finished my little side project as well....

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q128/bswedorski/Star%20Wars/IMG_0517.jpg)

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q128/bswedorski/Star%20Wars/IMG_0516.jpg)
Title: Re: Death Watch Super Commando
Post by: Carid Vhett on Jun 08, 2013, 11:02 AM
Red looks a bit light, but it could be due to enviroment. Looking good. Nice tk lid.
Title: Re: Death Watch Super Commando
Post by: Niabi on Jun 08, 2013, 12:48 PM
Shins look great ;) and nice TK
Title: Re: Death Watch Super Commando
Post by: Tact Kor on Jun 08, 2013, 10:19 PM
The shins look AWESOME  :o  :o  :o  :o  :o  :o  :o  :o

This is going to be a killer build, do me a favor; call in sick next week and stay home to work on this, I want to see more  :laugh:


Seriously, I really like the paint apps and would love to build a DWSC myself so I am very excited to see this.
Title: Re: Death Watch Super Commando
Post by: Voss626 on Jun 09, 2013, 11:11 AM
Well after the successful color and weathering test yesterday morning I spent the rest of the day finishing the red parts of the armor. I also went back and weathered my pistols (I'll have to get a pic of those later) because they were looking a little too shiny for my taste. The best news however was that late last night I got an e-mail saying my flight suit has shipped which is about 3-4 weeks ahead of schedule!

Armor pics before the Tattoos:

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q128/bswedorski/Death%20Watch/IMG_0520.jpg)

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q128/bswedorski/Death%20Watch/IMG_0521.jpg)

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q128/bswedorski/Death%20Watch/IMG_0522.jpg)

And after a trip to the tattoo parlor...

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q128/bswedorski/Death%20Watch/IMG_0524.jpg)

Gonna start work on the shoulder spikes today and start painting up the black/ gray armor parts.
Title: Re: Death Watch Super Commando
Post by: Carid Vhett on Jun 09, 2013, 11:15 AM
Loving this build.
Title: Re: Death Watch Super Commando
Post by: Tact Kor on Jun 09, 2013, 11:35 AM
That's wicked sick, great job!

Congrats on you flight suit getting shipped early, ahead of schedule is rare in the costume world.
Title: Re: Death Watch Super Commando
Post by: Niabi on Jun 09, 2013, 01:17 PM
 :o

Thats some awesome paint apps vod ;D top work, keep it up and your kit will be awesome ;)
Title: Re: Death Watch Super Commando
Post by: Voss626 on Jun 10, 2013, 08:51 AM
Well I wrapped up paint on everything I have in the shop at the moment. Nothing as exciting as the first batch, this is all gray and black. I did final assembly on the gauntlet however and I'm pretty happy with the end result.

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q128/bswedorski/Death%20Watch/IMG_0528.jpg)

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q128/bswedorski/Death%20Watch/IMG_0532.jpg)

And a test fit (flash was on in this shot):

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q128/bswedorski/Death%20Watch/IMG_0533.jpg)

and a shot of the pistols post weathering...

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q128/bswedorski/Death%20Watch/IMG_0525.jpg)

And finally the last bits on the shoulders. I did an initial test fit using .1 ABS and wasn't really happy with the result. So, I grabbed the MDF that I used for the base of the comlink and started tracing out the patterns. I left  a little leg on the bottom of each blade and cut a slot in the shoulders to give them a bit more positive attachement. I also took the dremel and sharpened the blades to give them some depth.

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q128/bswedorski/Death%20Watch/IMG_0529.jpg)

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q128/bswedorski/Death%20Watch/IMG_0531.jpg)

The flight suit should be here as early as today, so I can start working on attachments and weathering.  My helmet is also sckeduled for delivery so I should have things to keep me rolling over the next week.
Title: Re: Death Watch Super Commando
Post by: Kelan Ord on Jun 10, 2013, 09:15 AM
Hum... Yeah. This. Is. AWESOME!  :o :o :o

Bookmarking this one.
Title: Re: Death Watch Super Commando
Post by: Carid Vhett on Jun 10, 2013, 10:28 AM
 :o :o
Nuff said.
Title: Re: Death Watch Super Commando
Post by: Tact Kor on Jun 10, 2013, 12:35 PM
"Nothing as exciting as the first batch

Dude your too humble, this is fantastic, I can't even critique it.

Whatis the belt made out of?
Title: Re: Death Watch Super Commando
Post by: Pointoforigin on Jun 10, 2013, 01:24 PM
Mmmm, excellent work. The only thing I can find to critique is that the return edge on the chest armour looks a little too much to me. Not a deal breaker by any means though.
Title: Re: Death Watch Super Commando
Post by: Voss626 on Jun 10, 2013, 01:51 PM
"Nothing as exciting as the first batch

Dude your too humble, this is fantastic, I can't even critique it.

Whatis the belt made out of?

Thanks!

The belt comes with the kit from kwdesigns. It is ABS and has a concealed Velcro connection in he back.



Mmmm, excellent work. The only thing I can find to critique is that the return edge on the chest armour looks a little too much to me. Not a deal breaker by any means though.

Those return edges are vac formed to. That depth and are pretty consistent with the animated renders. I definitely trust Kevin's eye for detail and sculpting.
Title: Re: Death Watch Super Commando
Post by: Niabi on Jun 10, 2013, 03:17 PM
I have only One thing to say vod......


(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8245/8664903547_9a19c6a92a_o.gif)

Incredible work ;D keep it up
Title: Re: Death Watch Super Commando
Post by: Voss626 on Jun 13, 2013, 07:06 PM
Step 1:

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q128/bswedorski/Death%20Watch/IMG_0537.jpg)

Step 2:

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q128/bswedorski/Death%20Watch/IMG_0540.jpg)

Step 3:

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q128/bswedorski/Death%20Watch/IMG_0541.jpg)
(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q128/bswedorski/Death%20Watch/IMG_0542.jpg)

Couldn't find any good reference pictures of the back of the helmet so I made something up that looked like it would go with the design. Took a page from the diamond tattoos down Maul's nose.

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q128/bswedorski/Death%20Watch/IMG_0543.jpg)
(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q128/bswedorski/Death%20Watch/IMG_0544.jpg)

Step 4: The Horns....to be continued.

So I've been playing around with my flight suit a lot this week with various dyes and bleach and paints. I have something that I now feel is passable but I think I'm going to order a new flight suit in a slightly different color. This one was way too yellow for my taste. More on that later.
Title: Re: Death Watch Super Commando
Post by: Carid Vhett on Jun 13, 2013, 07:18 PM
Step 5
I give up. You are far to good at this :laugh:
Title: Re: Death Watch Super Commando
Post by: Tact Kor on Jun 13, 2013, 08:37 PM
Yeah!

That looks great!

Keep the updates coming, this is really cool.
Title: Re: Death Watch Super Commando
Post by: Kelan Ord on Jun 13, 2013, 10:21 PM
Really good work. You sir are an artist.
Title: Re: Death Watch Super Commando
Post by: Vhett Naast on Jun 13, 2013, 11:23 PM
 :o


Dang dude, your really, really making me want to build one now....must resist urge
Title: Re: Death Watch Super Commando
Post by: Niabi on Jun 14, 2013, 03:39 PM
stop it vod ;) you are making as all look bad  :rolleyes:

great Stuff
Title: Re: Death Watch Super Commando
Post by: Solus Raam on Jun 18, 2013, 09:54 AM
Really great work so far. Can't wait to see more.
Title: Re: Death Watch Super Commando
Post by: Andrewhitc on Jun 21, 2013, 08:10 PM
Very good work! Will wait for updates.
Title: Re: Death Watch Super Commando
Post by: Voss626 on Jun 23, 2013, 08:21 PM
Did some mock-ups out of cardboard today for the horns. I also made my first test mock-up with magnets. It was a partial success in that the magnet actually held the horn in place, unfortunately it wanted to rotate on me. So I've got an idea I need to test out tomorrow using some pins along with the magnets.

Here are shots of the mock-up:
(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q128/bswedorski/Death%20Watch/IMG_0583.jpg)

You can see the left and right sides of the helmet are slightly different. The ones on the right (helmet left) are what I intend to use.

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q128/bswedorski/Death%20Watch/IMG_0580.jpg)

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q128/bswedorski/Death%20Watch/IMG_0581.jpg)

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q128/bswedorski/Death%20Watch/IMG_0582.jpg)
Title: Re: Death Watch Super Commando
Post by: Tact Kor on Jun 24, 2013, 05:56 PM
I am really happy to see updates on your kit,

The placement and shape looks right but I think they might be a bit too tall...? It's hard to tell but I thought I would mention it.
Title: Re: Death Watch Super Commando
Post by: Tracyn Ordo on Jun 24, 2013, 08:11 PM
This is looking crazy cool so far man!
Title: Re: Death Watch Super Commando
Post by: Calder Varad on Jun 24, 2013, 08:14 PM
(http://i1285.photobucket.com/albums/a600/Falconaught/surprised-rainbow-face-l_zpsd21da75c.png)
Title: Re: Death Watch Super Commando
Post by: Vhett Naast on Jun 24, 2013, 08:19 PM
Really nice  8)  I think the horns might be a little to wide though, maybe its just me.
Title: Re: Death Watch Super Commando
Post by: Voss626 on Jun 25, 2013, 10:14 AM
I am really happy to see updates on your kit,

The placement and shape looks right but I think they might be a bit too tall...? It's hard to tell but I thought I would mention it.

I did a little photshop magic this morning to compare the reference image to my mock-up. The horns are about 1/2" too tall which I can modify in the final version.

Really nice  8)  I think the horns might be a little to wide though, maybe its just me.

I think there is a combination of issues to address here. First and foremost is that the scuplt of the helmet and the actual animated version aren't exact matches (that's not meant as a negative comment on the helmet). So I'm wrestling with making proportions look right versus the reference images. The placement of the horns also makes them look a bit wider than the reference image because they are rotated around the helmet slightly further. Again, I'm fighting reality versus cartoon on that one. I'm happy with the general placement of the horns in the over head shot but I do agree that I think I can shave some width off them for the final version.
Title: Re: Death Watch Super Commando
Post by: Tact Kor on Jun 25, 2013, 08:20 PM
I am sure you'll do a fine job, it's not easy to re- create animie stuff as the size/angles are never the same.

This is the best DW build I've seen so far and I am really looking forward to what you do. Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Death Watch Super Commando
Post by: Naglium on Jul 12, 2013, 09:59 PM
Looks awesome.  As soon as I get the rest of my kit in, I'll be checking in on this thread for inspiration!
Title: Re: Death Watch Super Commando
Post by: Ashen Kelborn on Oct 01, 2013, 06:27 AM
So did this ever get finished, where the app pics or even better ones of trooping?
Title: Re: Death Watch Super Commando
Post by: Belleg Com on Oct 01, 2013, 06:52 AM
This is awesome i cant wait to see it finished!
Title: Re: Death Watch Super Commando
Post by: Uneek Top'El on Oct 01, 2013, 07:00 AM
Yep this is definitely looking AMAZING
Title: Re: Death Watch Super Commando
Post by: Ashen Kelborn on Oct 01, 2013, 07:27 AM
Must admit, Its inspiring me to do the same, I've always liked the deatrh watch and to have a Darth Maul influence while being canon is awesome 8)
Title: Re: Death Watch Super Commando
Post by: Zedrin Ho'dag on Oct 01, 2013, 07:36 AM
Kandosii vod!  :o   8)
Title: Re: Death Watch Super Commando
Post by: BobaFiend on Oct 15, 2013, 01:35 AM
That character design makes my stomach turn, I'm impressed that you've made me a believer, man.  You skill and execution have been top notch so far and you have a great, great build coming along. 
Title: Re: Death Watch Super Commando
Post by: Stinkape on Mar 06, 2014, 09:47 AM
Any progress ?
Title: Re: Death Watch Super Commando
Post by: Voss626 on May 22, 2017, 02:13 PM
So, I've finally gotten around to putting some work into my DW Mando. I had a test fit on the flak vest this last weekend it's pretty much the last thing I need for final assembly. The flight suit needs some tailoring and then some velcro. Here are some updated pictures.

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q128/bswedorski/Death%20Watch/IMG_0318.jpg)

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q128/bswedorski/Death%20Watch/IMG_0317.jpg)

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q128/bswedorski/Death%20Watch/IMG_0316.jpg)
Title: Re: Death Watch Super Commando
Post by: Vhett Naast on May 25, 2017, 12:37 PM
Tiiiiiiiiight....
Title: Re: Death Watch Super Commando
Post by: Dingo_Largo on Apr 21, 2018, 06:24 PM
All the photo's on this thread are photobucket pics. Can someone please fix this. Also will the CRL's for the 3 grunt variants be written?
Title: Re: Death Watch Super Commando
Post by: Slade Kel on Apr 21, 2018, 08:54 PM
Unfortunately unlikely as to the pictures. This is a personal build thread, and the user hasn't logged on in 8 months.

In regards to CRLs for the grunts, in the past when it came to canon characters a CRL was typically developed after someone produced an accurate kit based on the existing references. Making whole new CRLs is typically low on the priority list. In the meantime, they fit into the modern era CRL unless otherwise stated by the App Team or Personnel Officer.
Title: Re: Death Watch Super Commando
Post by: Dingo_Largo on Apr 21, 2018, 09:04 PM
In regards to CRLs for the grunts, in the past when it came to canon characters a CRL was typically developed after someone produced an accurate kit based on the existing references. Making whole new CRLs is typically low on the priority list. In the meantime, they fit into the modern era CRL unless otherwise stated by the App Team or Personnel Officer.

They use to be up on the CRL list and now are now there anymore, just the Supercommando Captain.
Title: Re: Death Watch Super Commando
Post by: Hik'aari on Apr 22, 2018, 06:24 AM
There have not been any CRLs written for the Death Watch Super Commando's except for the Captain. When creating mine I had to go from a lot of screen refs.
I believe I am one of the few (perhaps only) Maul Variant Grunt cleared within the Brigades. Here is my WIP (https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/index.php?topic=104763.0) for reference.