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Mandalorian Armor => Armor Concepts => Topic started by: Rokeim Gekla on Oct 25, 2013, 10:38 AM

Title: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Rokeim Gekla on Oct 25, 2013, 10:38 AM
Theres been some questions lately about what exactly ARE the armor classifications and what do they entail ? 

Well,  the quick and dirty answer is this..

CRL Minimum =... well... CRL Minimum.
Light = Boba armor
Medium = Jango armor
Heavy = heavy assault

Even thats not 100% accurate, but its a good start.  So.. i will expand a little :)

CRL Minimum
see  Posted CRLs  (http://mandalorianmercs.org/get-involved/costume-requirements/) for details.


Light Armor
Light armor is the lightest classification of armor we accept. 
Good example is, of course... Boba Fett.  He has one (1) extra bit that you do NOT need to be classified as Light Armor, and thats the kidney/butt plate.
(http://www.sideshowtoy.com/mas_assets/jpg/7151_press01-001.jpg)

Medium Armor
Also refered to Jango level armor, and thats accurate.
(http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20070209183615/starwars/images/0/07/Jango-CHRON.jpg)

Heavy Armor
More commonly known as Heavy Assault armor.  Going to this level of coverage is Brigade level,  specifically the Shock Infantry Brigade,  Heavy assault profession. To my knowledge, there are NO cannon sources for this level of coverage, as such i'll be using myself as an example pic for now.


(http://i1321.photobucket.com/albums/u552/MercsBrigadier/front_zpsa558bd1a.jpg)

Thats my app pic from my Brigade application,  i've since added and adjusted several things.  Thats the base level of Heavy Assault, plus throat armor which is not visible in this shot. 


If there are any questions about these Armor Classes, feel free to ask !
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Dar'manda on Apr 03, 2014, 04:40 AM
how much butt armor? Is the back piece of a boba cod work? I have seen it referred to as both a butt and or kidney plate, but the butt armor need more then that?

Thanks,

Cap
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Rokeim Gekla on Apr 08, 2014, 09:06 AM
the boba 'butt plate'  is more of a kidney guard.    i may be a bit wrong on the dimensions,  but its apx 3-4" wide and wraps from kidney to kidney, roughly. 
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Dar'manda on Apr 08, 2014, 02:11 PM
It just sits low and doesnt actually cover the kidneys. I was going to had 3 layers under the kidney to cover the butt. Is that good enough?
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: OriKad on Apr 08, 2014, 05:19 PM
By my understanding, butt armor for Heavy is essentially the same amount of coverage as a stormtrooper.
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Rokeim Gekla on Apr 08, 2014, 07:04 PM
butt armor for heavy is the same as butt armor for Boba.    kidney plate counts as a butt plate.   anything that covers more is not required for heavy (ie. tk butt armor)
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Dar'manda on Apr 08, 2014, 08:01 PM
oh perfect lol less work for me  :P
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Cayden (Lupus Kan'do) on May 30, 2014, 12:27 PM
I think once I am all finished I will be in the light class but with some extra pieces, would "shnee" armor and possibly neck plates push me into medium or a weird in-between sort of area? (As of right now I don't plan on thigh plates)
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Titus_Crowe on Jun 20, 2014, 09:56 PM
Is it okay to be light, but with say some extra like shin armor, or to you have to jump to the next class?
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Kitala-Enby on Jun 21, 2014, 06:45 AM
No. You will be kind of in between light and medium.

As Tom told me a while ago.
Boba is light,

Medium is a minimum of Jango, maximum Jango with bicep plates or upper Georgette (Collar plates kinda like a dog collar)

Heavy armour is the above. but with both upper gorgette ad biceps. at a min. max is full wrap around

So you won't be medium, unless you've met a Jango set minimum.

**Edited for correct info**
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Titus_Crowe on Jun 21, 2014, 07:01 AM
Okay thanks, that helps, trying to plan everything and have it able to go for a brigade after I manage to get OM
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: skillet-the-creeper on Jun 21, 2014, 08:35 PM
So for a light mando, I can have a cod peice OR a loin cloth?
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Briks on Jun 21, 2014, 08:40 PM
So for a light mando, I can have a cod peice OR a loin cloth?
yes, or you could have both if you wanted.
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: skillet-the-creeper on Jun 21, 2014, 09:02 PM
Could I have a loin cloth with an armor peice where the center of the cod would be?
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Briks on Jun 21, 2014, 09:05 PM
I believe so, that would be an armored loincloth.
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: ragwafire on Jul 03, 2014, 07:36 PM
So, it says that a Duster is allowed in place of a back plate for medium and light. What about a trench coat? They're essentially the same thing, but a Duster is longer and is a bit less decorative. It's not that big of a difference, I'd just like to clear it up so I don't make any incorrect assumptions.
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Briks on Jul 04, 2014, 07:01 PM
I'm not so sure about a trench coat, I mean I could easily see an arctic mando using one. Maybe if you turned the coat into some kind of coat + kama, I know Xyyyr the Jawalorian used a Jawa like cloak (kind've like a trench coat). Also, you could wear a backpack instead of a backplate.
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: ragwafire on Jul 04, 2014, 11:07 PM
Also, you could wear a backpack instead of a backplate.

I'm not so much looking for a substitute for a back plate as I am for a way to use materials I already have, such as my trench coat.
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Kaden Amas on Jul 07, 2014, 09:39 AM
I think for point and purpose, duster and trench coat are interchangeable. The only difference is trench coat (heavier) is designed for military use and duster (lighter) is designed for riding horses. There a number of Mercs with long coats on the forums here. Jacen Rangir of the FireStorm Clan is an example.
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: OlekCordura on Aug 04, 2014, 12:27 AM
Could a Kama be added to light armor? I like a stripped down armor look as I tend to favor blitz tactics, but I also like Mando armor with a Kama.
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Briks on Aug 08, 2014, 07:30 AM
Could a Kama be added to light armor? I like a stripped down armor look as I tend to favor blitz tactics, but I also like Mando armor with a Kama.

Kamas aren't armor so you can add a kama to any class
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Rokeim Gekla on Aug 29, 2014, 10:05 AM
Exactly.   Kama's arent armor.  They're an accessory ;)    You can armor a kama,  but its still a Kama. 
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Nathan (Revix) on Sep 03, 2014, 06:22 PM
Hello, im new to this website and love the mandalorian mercs idea. Mandalorians always popped out at me when i saw the movies my favorite character was always Jango Fett. I'm 13 years old and I am 5 foot 3 and a half. I dont really know how to measure anything such as plates and helmets (btw im going for the light style of armor) So could anyone help me with sizing for plates and helmets. As well as what materials to use and accurate pricing for a full set of armor. If anyone could tell me any of this information and have any videos showing how to size and make armor or anything like that it would be much appreciated. Thank you very much

Revix
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Ashen Kelborn on Sep 17, 2014, 06:50 AM
most of what you looking for is here (http://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/index.php?action=ezportal;sa=page;p=1)
The rest we will be happy to assis with, but the best people to help will be clan mates in your area: Regions and chapters (http://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/index.php?action=collapse;c=6;sa=expand;f148d48e5e5c=c3a1a5ea4e9f540c4c7c17a05e8ffafd#c6)

Hope it helps, also being 13 you'll have plenty of time to perfect your kit till your 18 and can become official member, in that time you'll be  verd'ika corps (http://verdikacorps.com/) which is still pretty cool ;D


Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Vencuyanir on Oct 06, 2014, 11:34 AM
    Is buying laceless boots acceptable for the light armor acceptable? Or do we have to make the *Boot armor*
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Ashen Kelborn on Oct 06, 2014, 11:38 AM
if they have no laces or visable zips, your good m8
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Vencuyanir on Oct 06, 2014, 12:08 PM
if they have no laces or visable zips, your good m8

Thanks Vod.
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Ashen Kelborn on Oct 06, 2014, 06:50 PM
Thanks Vod.

Thats ok, but Allot of these questions are available with just reading the CRL's
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Mikelus Keldab on Oct 08, 2014, 10:37 AM
No. You will be kind of in between light and medium.

As Tom told me a while ago.
Boba is light,

Medium is a minimum of Jango, maximum Jango with bicep plates and upper Georgette (Collar plates kinda like a dog collar)

Heavy armour is the above. but with wrap around thigh, shin and bicep plates.

So you won't be medium, unless you've met a Jango set minimum.

So, if I were to set up a "medium" kit, with jango style thighs, and then added bicep plates, would I be considered heavy? I'm trying to build my kit so as to eventually join the mechanic brigade, but they're required to have light-medium armor... but I want bicep plates  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Kavryn Falco on Oct 08, 2014, 11:17 AM
I believe that unless you have ALL of the required plates for the next step up, you're still classed as the lower.  So, for example, though my kit has shnees, biceps, a double shoulder, and neck armor, I'm still classed as light because I don't have thighs  :laugh:
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Ashen Kelborn on Oct 08, 2014, 11:44 AM
I believe that unless you have ALL of the required plates for the next step up, you're still classed as the lower.  So, for example, though my kit has shnees, biceps, a double shoulder, and neck armor, I'm still classed as light because I don't have thighs  :laugh:

^^^THIS^^^^
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Mikelus Keldab on Oct 08, 2014, 12:34 PM
Ok  :laugh: I should've been more clear, my jango thighs don't wrap around, but still count as full thigh armor for purposes of classifcation?

I want my kit to look heavy, but be TECHNICALLY medium to pass the Brigade CRLS...  :-\

Full shoulder - Heavier style shoulder bell that covers the entire shoulder (Loophole? ???)
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Kitala-Enby on Oct 08, 2014, 12:47 PM
According to Mandalore The Uniter. Medium armour is Jango at a minimum. and a mazimum of jango with bicep plates, hand plates and collar armour. Heavy is when you take the medium armour max, and add wrap around thighs (full thigh coverage) Wrap around shins (full lower leg coverage) wrap around bicep and gauntlets (full arm coverage) and collar plates.

So if you have to be medium but want to look well armoured, you can add biceps, collar and hand plates and still be classified as medium.
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Mikelus Keldab on Oct 15, 2014, 09:59 AM
Excellent! Those are all the extra plates I wanted as it was!  ;D
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Mandibles77 on Oct 19, 2014, 06:48 PM
Nice Heavy Assault Kit!
I don't know about butt armour, but you DO look like a proper HardArse!!!

Has this kit been approved by the Brigade yet?
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Hettyc_Cabur on Oct 30, 2014, 12:09 PM
Hi, I'm planning my first armor, and I was wondering how strict the classification system and by extension the approval process was.
Specifically, I'm planning a Legacy armor, but wanted to fit into a brigade too. What I'm planning would fall I think into the Heavy armor range, as a combination of the Heavy Assault and Heavy Weapons Brigades. The only thing I really want to add in terms of armor is a larger pauldron in addition to the collar armor and shoulder bells. This would sit above them. Not a clone or TK, something heavier, with a neck guard. Sort of like those used by medieval swordsman in function, but obviously keeping the Mando form and style.
Wanted to add a short cape and kama pair, but it doesn't sound like that matters.
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Ashen Kelborn on Oct 30, 2014, 12:49 PM
Hi, I'm planning my first armor, and I was wondering how strict the classification system and by extension the approval process was.
Specifically, I'm planning a Legacy armor, but wanted to fit into a brigade too. What I'm planning would fall I think into the Heavy armor range, as a combination of the Heavy Assault and Heavy Weapons Brigades. The only thing I really want to add in terms of armor is a larger pauldron in addition to the collar armor and shoulder bells. This would sit above them. Not a clone or TK, something heavier, with a neck guard. Sort of like those used by medieval swordsman in function, but obviously keeping the Mando form and style.
Wanted to add a short cape and kama pair, but it doesn't sound like that matters.

Will you have the below?

Heavy Armor

•Head - Helmet
•Neck - Neck armor. ARC-style pauldrons are allowed in addition to collar plates, but not in lieu of.
•Upper Torso - Chest plates and abdomen
•Full shoulder - Heavier style shoulder bell that covers the entire shoulder
•Bicep - Bicep armor or elbow and shoulder armor that end up covering this gap
•Forearm - Gauntlets
•Back - Back plate. Capes are allowed in addition to back plates, but not in lieu of.
•Groin - Cod plate. Loincloths are allowed in addition to cod plate, but not in lieu of.
•Thigh - Standard plate coverage or enclosed
•Knee - Separate knee armor or extended shin armor
•Shin - Standard shin type coverage
•Boot - Some form of boot armor
•Backside - Kama or enclosed thigh armor and butt armor

If you can fully account for all pieces in the above list then its heavy, if its less its medium still

Also if you want to do both those brigades you'll need 2 kits for them as its one kit per brigade, loadouts not accepted, though parts can be used between the two (just not plates or lid if I remember right)
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Hettyc_Cabur on Nov 01, 2014, 06:50 PM
Thanks, Ashen Kelborn

Yes, I would have all those plates. At least that's the plan. But if I go Heavy Assault in the end, yes definitely. I guess I'll just go heavy assault, and just have the repeating blaster too? Based on my understanding that should be fine. Right now I'm only planning one suit, so I'll just focus for now. Maybe later I'll branch out.
Thanks for the assist, Vod!
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: z mando on Nov 18, 2014, 08:38 PM
Where can I get armor?
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Ashen Kelborn on Nov 19, 2014, 09:50 AM
Where can I get armor?

Normally you can easily make from templates listed Here (http://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/index.php?action=ezportal;sa=page;p=1) and Sintra from your local sign maker
or there arer sellers Here (http://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/index.php?board=270.0)


Hope it helps ;D
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Thaxos on Nov 19, 2014, 05:35 PM
Where can I get armor?

Most of our members make the armour themselves, we have plenty of info and resources available here:
http://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/index.php?action=forum#c2
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Hino'fa Anch on Dec 01, 2014, 02:47 AM
Question regarding Legacy. It's listed as being automatically Medium. I that "considered medium" or "requires all plates to be medium" Because I was hoping to go Light, with spats covering my boots.
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Robidom on Jan 09, 2015, 09:49 AM
For Legacy armor, can I go a little on the heavy side? Something along the lines of pauldrons with integrated bicep plates, 3/4 thigh plates, and full armored boots?
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Ronan on Jan 09, 2015, 11:55 AM
Question regarding Legacy. It's listed as being automatically Medium. I that "considered medium" or "requires all plates to be medium" Because I was hoping to go Light, with spats covering my boots.

There are no actual legacy CRLs so this has always been confusing.  Some say you need medium to be legacy or you need plates butted, or overlapping etc.  But as of now they still fall under modern.  So as long as you follow the CRLs you will be fine.  If you try for a brigade, that is a different story.
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Malakier Vhett on Feb 01, 2015, 11:20 PM
Well, I guess it's good to know that if I ever want to officially upgrade to medium armor, all I have to do is add thigh plates.
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Ryuk Shai on Mar 26, 2015, 11:35 AM
is it okay to have a heavy medium combo??
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Ryuk Shai on Mar 26, 2015, 11:38 AM
According to Mandalore The Uniter. Medium armour is Jango at a minimum. and a mazimum of jango with bicep plates, hand plates and collar armour. Heavy is when you take the medium armour max, and add wrap around thighs (full thigh coverage) Wrap around shins (full lower leg coverage) wrap around bicep and gauntlets (full arm coverage) and collar plates.

So if you have to be medium but want to look well armoured, you can add biceps, collar and hand plates and still be classified as medium.

This literally just answered my question thanks!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Kitala-Enby on Mar 26, 2015, 12:36 PM
This literally just answered my question thanks!!!!!!!

I was actually wronghere, what i said would still count as medium would actually be classified as heavy, but if you lose the collar or bicep plates it reverts back to medium.
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Ryuk Shai on Mar 26, 2015, 04:21 PM
I was actually wronghere, what i said would still count as medium would actually be classified as heavy, but if you lose the collar or bicep plates it reverts back to medium.

Oh well still thanks
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Briks on May 13, 2015, 07:51 AM
Question, So right now I have light armor and I'm thinking about going Medium. Do I need a back plate for medium or is a cape (in place of the backplate) ok?
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Ryuk Shai on May 13, 2015, 09:55 AM
Question, So right now I have light armor and I'm thinking about going Medium. Do I need a back plate for medium or is a cape (in place of the backplate) ok?
read this it will explain

    Head - Helmet
    Shoulder - standard shoulder bells
    Upper Torso - Chest plates and abdomen
    Knee - Separate knee armor
    Forearm - Gauntlets
    Back - Back plate. Capes/Dusters are allowed as long as they cover from shoulder to shoulder.
    Groin - Cod plate. Loincloths/loin cods are allowed in lieu of.
    Thigh - Standard plate coverage
    Shin - Standard shin type coverage
    Boot - boot plates are required
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Ashen Kelborn on May 13, 2015, 10:30 AM
^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^
the first post is pretty comprehensive ;)
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: KuranRut on Oct 29, 2015, 03:04 PM
I am working on a special ops recon build i.e. Light armor. Would a knee/shin guards pass muster?
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Ashen Kelborn on Oct 29, 2015, 08:51 PM
I am working on a special ops recon build i.e. Light armor. Would a knee/shin guards pass muster?

Yep, having Knee and shins doesn't cross into medium armour, You need Jango level armour to be medium, loose any of those bits without breaking the CRL is light
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Alas_Dare on Nov 18, 2015, 07:18 PM
Is there a Weight Limit on the Armor Classes? I met one of the Arizona Clan members this weekend, in his Heavy armor. And he said his kit weighed about 60 pounds.
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Ashen Kelborn on Nov 18, 2015, 07:25 PM
Is there a Weight Limit on the Armor Classes? I met one of the Arizona Clan members this weekend, in his Heavy armor. And he said his kit weighed about 60 pounds.

Physical weight..... no, as Mercs make armour from various materials, its more what you can bare and are comfortable with.
as long as its a material allowed in the CRL's I can't see a problem
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Rokeim Gekla on Nov 22, 2015, 06:16 PM
no armor weight limit at all.   Dresdons armor weighs like 140lbs. 
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Ju'siik Kelborn on Nov 27, 2015, 11:16 AM
Quote
Armor Requirements
Medium
Added arm pieces are required. Types of armor you can use- Pick 1 for both arms or 2 on 1 arm.   
Elbow armor
Bicep armor
Segmented gauntlet that covers the hand
Larger shoulder bells
Hand armor is  required and exempt from the "pick 1", except if you go for the extended segmented gauntlet above
* CAN do more if you so chose, but if you're going for the asymmetrical look, make sure to keep it off balance, and don't stray into Heavy Assault territory :-p

Suggested armor pieces:
Neck armor
Decap collar
Heel plate
Toe plate (not to be confused with boot plate)
Flank armor

I realize this has been beat to death, but I've got a question related to the above armor requirements for the Weapons Master Brigade. I was wanting to take medium armor and add neck armor, bicep plates (non-wrap around), and crushgaunts, as well as full boot armor. If I understand the descriptions correctly, because the bicep, thigh, and shin plates do not wrap around the arms, this still is considered medium, correct?

Vor'e!
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Ashen Kelborn on Nov 27, 2015, 11:43 AM
I realize this has been beat to death, but I've got a question related to the above armor requirements for the Weapons Master Brigade. I was wanting to take medium armor and add neck armor, bicep plates (non-wrap around), and crushgaunts, as well as full boot armor. If I understand the descriptions correctly, because the bicep, thigh, and shin plates do not wrap around the arms, this still is considered medium, correct?

Vor'e!

its medium, yep  ;D
you don't have butt plate :laugh:
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Ju'siik Kelborn on Nov 27, 2015, 11:49 AM
its medium, yep  ;D
you don't have butt plate :laugh:

Haha, vor'e! :)
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Ashen Kelborn on Nov 27, 2015, 11:52 AM
Basicly, if you have all this at minimum, its heavy:

Heavy Armor

•Head - Helmet
•Neck - Neck armor. ARC-style pauldrons are allowed in addition to collar plates, but not in lieu of.
•Upper Torso - Chest plates and abdomen
•Full shoulder - Heavier style shoulder bell that covers the entire shoulder
•Bicep - Bicep armor or elbow and shoulder armor that end up covering this gap
•Forearm - Gauntlets
•Back - Back plate. Capes are allowed in addition to back plates, but not in lieu of.
•Groin - Cod plate. Loincloths are allowed in addition to cod plate, but not in lieu of.
•Thigh - Standard plate coverage or enclosed
•Knee - Separate knee armor or extended shin armor
•Shin - Standard shin type coverage
•Boot - Some form of boot armor
•Backside - Kama or enclosed thigh armor and butt armor
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Ju'siik Kelborn on Nov 27, 2015, 12:00 PM
So if I read the correctly, if I add a kama but not a butt plate and larger shoulders, it's still medium. Lol, if someone implemented everything on that list I think you would still be shy of heavy due to lack of butt plate?
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Malakier Vhett on Nov 27, 2015, 12:21 PM
So if I read the correctly, if I add a kama but not a butt plate and larger shoulders, it's still medium. Lol, if someone implemented everything on that list I think you would still be shy of heavy due to lack of butt plate?
I believe a Kama counts as both butt armor and thigh armor.
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Ju'siik Kelborn on Nov 27, 2015, 12:32 PM
I believe a Kama counts as both butt armor and thigh armor.

Now I'm a little confused. I saw earlier that a kama did not count as armor. I'm fine with it counting as it, but I need to know one way or the other. I think I'll go ask some questions over in Brigade Chatter...
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Ju'siik Kelborn on Nov 27, 2015, 01:10 PM
I just had a thought. In the definition of heavy that Ashen put up (which is taken from the first post I believe) had a kama or enclosed thighs AND butt plate. If this language is correct then I'm still within the medium specs IMHO. Thoughts?
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Ashen Kelborn on Nov 27, 2015, 01:29 PM
yes its kama......... or ........... butt plate and enclosed thigh plates.

If you have neither of those you can still do weapon master as medium.

If your weapon master you don't need that much armour anyway, will slow you down
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Ju'siik Kelborn on Nov 27, 2015, 01:37 PM
Ok. Still trying to come to terms with ditching the kama from my kit, but you're right, a kama will most likely slow me down.
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Malakier Vhett on Nov 27, 2015, 01:45 PM
Ok. Still trying to come to terms with ditching the kama from my kit, but you're right, a kama will most likely slow me down.
It's worth noting that only having full arm coverage on one side does not push you into heavy armor. Heavy requires both.
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Ju'siik Kelborn on Nov 27, 2015, 01:48 PM
A very good point! I'll have to incorporate that. :) Vor'e!
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Ashen Kelborn on Nov 27, 2015, 03:27 PM
But with all that out of the way, you really should look at becoming cleared as an OM first and then look at upgrading.
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Ju'siik Kelborn on Nov 27, 2015, 04:19 PM
I am. I've got a kit in process now. I wasn't going to go straight to WM. I was going to put a kama and neck armor in my OM kit because they were easy, and do the rest after I get OM. The trick is knowing where to stop with OM. Lol.
Title: Re: Armor Classes :Medium
Post by: zachpeterson58 on Dec 31, 2015, 10:14 PM
Looking to start a medium Jango style build. Does anyone know if there are any paper printouts so I can size my armor pieces before I cut into my Sintra? Appreciate any assistance from anyone.
Title: Re: Armor Classes :Medium
Post by: Ju'siik Kelborn on Dec 31, 2015, 10:17 PM
Looking to start a medium Jango style build. Does anyone know if there are any paper printouts so I can size my armor pieces before I cut into my Sintra? Appreciate any assistance from anyone.

There is a template page in the links if you go to the home page. It's pretty helpful. :)
Title: Re: Armor Classes :Medium
Post by: Malakier Vhett on Dec 31, 2015, 10:18 PM
Looking to start a medium Jango style build. Does anyone know if there are any paper printouts so I can size my armor pieces before I cut into my Sintra? Appreciate any assistance from anyone.
There's a complete set, in 3 different sizes, in the tutorial section
Title: Re: Armor Classes :Medium
Post by: Ashen Kelborn on Jan 01, 2016, 02:53 AM
Looking to start a medium Jango style build. Does anyone know if there are any paper printouts so I can size my armor pieces before I cut into my Sintra? Appreciate any assistance from anyone.

Tutorials and Templates: CLICK HERE  ;D (http://mandalorianmercs.org/get-involved/costume-templates/)

Jango Templates: CLICK HERE  ;D (http://www.thedentedhelmet.com/f28/updated-printable-jango-armor-templates-8448/)
Or
CLICK HERE  ;D (http://www.mandalorianmercs.org/web/tutorial/documents/Jango%20Fett.zip)
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Ikaan Deema on Jan 12, 2016, 06:02 PM
Ok, I'm just looking for some clarification here, but if you aren't going to be doing brigades, you can have whatever mix of armor classes/pieces you want (excepting the minimums specified in the CRLs), right?
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Kavryn Falco on Jan 12, 2016, 06:05 PM
Ok, I'm just looking for some clarification here, but if you aren't going to be doing brigades, you can have whatever mix of armor classes/pieces you want (excepting the minimums specified in the CRLs), right?

Yup!  I mean, it might look a little funny if you have all the heavy armor plates up top, and just knees on the bottom :P but in most cases armor class isn't too big of an issue.
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Robidom on May 02, 2016, 09:27 AM
For strapping on plates, if my flight suit is a different color from my vest (OD green and black respectively), do the straps have to color match the parts of the suit they are strapped over? I didn't see this mentioned anywhere.
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Malakier Vhett on May 02, 2016, 09:39 AM
For strapping on plates, if my flight suit is a different color from my vest (OD green and black respectively), do the straps have to color match the parts of the suit they are strapped over? I didn't see this mentioned anywhere.
No. If you look at most kits, you'll see that the vest straps are the same color as the vest. Just make sure to tails are trimmed up
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Robidom on May 02, 2016, 02:09 PM
So black straps over a green suit won't get me dinged?
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Itolia Ulik'vhett on May 02, 2016, 03:54 PM
For strapping on plates, if my flight suit is a different color from my vest (OD green and black respectively), do the straps have to color match the parts of the suit they are strapped over? I didn't see this mentioned anywhere.

From the CRLs:
Armor strapping:
External strapping must be of an in universe material, examples include but are not limited to tactical web belting and leather. Elastic strapping is generally unacceptable for external use (refer to the following exceptions). The preferred method for the use of elastic strapping is to conceal it within the flightsuit.
Elastic may be used for boot armor strapping, but must be of the high quality elastic and same color as the boot.
External elastic strapping may be used in the following manners:
On the knee’s, elbows and Mando “thongs” only and dyed or painted to match the flightsuit as best as possible
If fully hidden from view by armor accessories such as kama’s, ammo pouches, capes, holsters etc. It would be recommended to use a higher quality elastic rather than the inexpensive “sew in” type, in the event the coverage moves and it’s exposed. It would also be best that it match the flightsuit in color or be colors that compliment the overall color palate of the costume.
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Malakier Vhett on May 02, 2016, 04:17 PM
So black straps over a green suit won't get me dinged?
I have green straps over a tan suit for my vest. As long as your straps aren't elastic, they'll be fine
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Drek'ar Ventress on May 02, 2016, 05:24 PM
Lets stay on topic here guys/gals.  This is about Armor Classes: light/medium/heavy, not strapping.
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: DemonessLeria on Jun 01, 2016, 04:27 PM
What are the restrictions on weapons for someone that would be doing a medium armor set?
We're a few extra pieces to our medium armor sets but missing a few from the heavy.
We don't want to do the biceps pieces or the bottom back plate.
However we will be adding knees, hands, and boots.
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Briks on Jun 01, 2016, 05:28 PM
What are the restrictions on weapons for someone that would be doing a medium armor set?
We're a few extra pieces to our medium armor sets but missing a few from the heavy.
We don't want to do the biceps pieces or the bottom back plate.
However we will be adding knees, hands, and boots.

Weapons do not correlate with armor so you can have whatever (crl approved) weapon you want no matter what type of armor you're wearing. Brigades are the only thing that restrict weapons, but you shouldn't worry about them and should instead focus on getting OM first.
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: DemonessLeria on Jun 01, 2016, 05:40 PM
Weapons do not correlate with armor so you can have whatever (crl approved) weapon you want no matter what type of armor you're wearing. Brigades are the only thing that restrict weapons, but you shouldn't worry about them and should instead focus on getting OM first.

My fiancee is looking to do an LPG and wanted to make sure that once he made his armor and would submit with his weapon preference that they wouldn't tell him that he's not allowed to have that kind of weapon due to his armor class rating.
I think that answers my question though, so thank you
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Beskaryc tomad on Jul 25, 2016, 03:45 PM
For classes or brigades that approve of more than one armor class then can your armor be "somewhere in between" two classes?
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Briks on Sep 06, 2016, 08:44 PM
For classes or brigades that approve of more than one armor class then can your armor be "somewhere in between" two classes?

short answer, yes.

This is still considered "light"even though I have shins, a kama, hard cod, and boot plates

(http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b605/wolfcone13/IMG_0143_zps67x3jun0.jpg)

Once I added thigh plates however, the armor was bumped up to "medium" as I had the minimum plate coverage for medium.

(http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b605/wolfcone13/Front_zpsnkcca8oj.jpg)
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Beskaryc tomad on Sep 08, 2016, 06:28 PM
Thanks vod! I didn't wan't to make more armor than I needed so that's what I needed.
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: KhorienSkirata on Nov 01, 2016, 01:07 AM
Anyone have templates for medium armor?
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Ashen Kelborn on Nov 01, 2016, 06:58 AM
Anyone have templates for medium armor?

All templates on Merc home page, medium is Jango level Costume Templates and Tutorials, CLICK ME (http://mandalorianmercs.org/get-involved/costume-templates/)
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: CG_Drummer on Dec 13, 2016, 11:38 AM
If we make the plates look more heavy duty (by adding a second layer of plating on top, or overlapping armor like a knight's shoulder, would that bump it up a class?  Also, If we add non-conventional pieces of plating, such as a lateral neck guard, would that also bump it up?  I would like to use to proper classification during my WIP.

I'm planning about the same amount of armour as Jango, with only 1 or 2 additions.  Apparently in my own head I am now in a grey area...
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Ashen Kelborn on Dec 13, 2016, 11:53 AM
If we make the plates look more heavy duty (by adding a second layer of plating on top, or overlapping armor like a knight's shoulder, would that bump it up a class?  Also, If we add non-conventional pieces of plating, such as a lateral neck guard, would that also bump it up?  I would like to use to proper classification during my WIP.

Bulking them out doesn't change the level, the amount of plates do.

If you look at the first post it quite clearly shows you and lists the basic coverage that qualifies as that level of armour, if you've not met the minimum requirements of the next level up, then your still the one below.

FIRST POST, PLEASE CLICK ME  ;D (http://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/index.php?topic=68676.0)


Quote from: CG_Drummer
I'm planning about the same amount of armour as Jango, with only 1 or 2 additions.  Apparently in my own head I am now in a grey area...

Jango with additions , depends on what additions I suppose, if bicep, neck and kidney plates then its heavy as below:

•Head - Helmet
•Neck - Neck armor. ARC-style pauldrons are allowed in addition to collar plates, but not in lieu of.
•Upper Torso - Chest plates and abdomen
•Full shoulder - Heavier style shoulder bell that covers the entire shoulder
•Bicep - Bicep armor or elbow and shoulder armor that end up covering this gap
•Forearm - Gauntlets
•Back - Back plate. Capes are allowed in addition to back plates, but not in lieu of.
•Groin - Cod plate. Loincloths are allowed in addition to cod plate, but not in lieu of.
•Thigh - Standard plate coverage or enclosed
•Knee - Separate knee armor or extended shin armor
•Shin - Standard shin type coverage
•Boot - Some form of boot armor
•Backside - Kama or enclosed thigh armor and butt armor

If you are short on any of the above, you are still medium armour, hope that helps
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: G-Man on Jan 09, 2017, 04:10 PM
Would shoulder bells that cover a lot of the shoulder be acceptable for light, something akin to a Stormtroopers shoulder bell.
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Havelock on Jan 10, 2017, 10:27 AM
I'm pretty sure that just beefing up the shoulders and not adding shins, or thigh plates or whatever, would not move you from light to medium coverage.
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Ashen Kelborn on Jan 10, 2017, 11:27 AM
I'm pretty sure that just beefing up the shoulders and not adding shins, or thigh plates or whatever, would move you from light to medium coverage.

Bulking them out doesn't change the level, the amount of plates do

This is correct, its still just shoulder armour, just don't go crazy or you'll look top heavy  ;)

below is the first post that outlines things pretty clearly

FIRST POST, PLEASE CLICK ME  ;D (http://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/index.php?topic=68676.0)



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Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Havelock on Jan 11, 2017, 12:32 AM
Urgh.  Meant to say "...would not move you from light to heavy..."  *sigh*
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Aden be orar on May 11, 2017, 12:35 PM
I'm thinking about making a heavy late crusader build, is this possible though?
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Havelock on May 18, 2017, 03:59 PM
I'm not sure if by "late crusader" you mean Crusader or Neo-Crusader, then yes, you can do a heavy build.  The CRLs (http://mandalorianmercs.org/get-involved/costume-requirements/) for both state that leg armor is highly recommended, but not required, so I assume you can have light, medium, and heavy coverage for both those styles of kit.
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Adenn'Kal on Sep 12, 2017, 01:06 PM
Hi i would like a clarification, for heavy armor, i was always under the impression that it was a collar that was required. I'm currently upgrading my kit for shock infantry and they state collar piece.

Here you say neck, do you mean a neck armor piece like a dog collar or is there just a mix in terminology ?


Theres been some questions lately about what exactly ARE the armor classifications and what do they entail ? 

Well,  the quick and dirty answer is this..

CRL Minimum =... well... CRL Minimum.
Light = Boba armor
Medium = Jango armor
Heavy = heavy assault

Even thats not 100% accurate, but its a good start.  So.. i will expand a little :)

CRL Minimum
see  Posted CRLs  (http://mandalorianmercs.org/get-involved/costume-requirements/) for details.


Light Armor
Light armor is the lightest classification of armor we accept. 
  • Head - Helmet
  • Shoulder - standard shoulder bells
  • Upper Torso - Chest plates and abdomen
  • Groin - cod plate, armored loin cloth, or a loin cloth
  • Knee - Separate knee armor
  • Forearm - Gauntlets
  • Back - Back plate. Capes/Dusters are allowed as long as they cover from shoulder to shoulder.
Good example is, of course... Boba Fett.  He has one (1) extra bit that you do NOT need to be classified as Light Armor, and thats the kidney/butt plate.
(http://www.sideshowtoy.com/mas_assets/jpg/7151_press01-001.jpg)

Medium Armor
Also refered to Jango level armor, and thats accurate.
  • Head - Helmet
  • Shoulder - standard shoulder bells
  • Upper Torso - Chest plates and abdomen
  • Knee - Separate knee armor
  • Forearm - Gauntlets
  • Back - Back plate. Capes/Dusters are allowed as long as they cover from shoulder to shoulder.
  • Groin - Cod plate. Loincloths/loin cods are allowed in lieu of.
  • Thigh - Standard plate coverage
  • Shin - Standard shin type coverage
  • Boot - boot plates are required
(http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20070209183615/starwars/images/0/07/Jango-CHRON.jpg)

Heavy Armor
More commonly known as Heavy Assault armor.  Going to this level of coverage is Brigade level,  specifically the Shock Infantry Brigade,  Heavy assault profession. To my knowledge, there are NO cannon sources for this level of coverage, as such i'll be using myself as an example pic for now.

  • Head - Helmet
  • Neck - Neck armor. ARC-style pauldrons are allowed in addition to collar plates, but not in lieu of.
  • Upper Torso - Chest plates and abdomen
  • Full shoulder - Heavier style shoulder bell that covers the entire shoulder
  • Bicep - Bicep armor or elbow and shoulder armor that end up covering this gap
  • Forearm - Gauntlets
  • Back - Back plate. Capes are allowed in addition to back plates, but not in lieu of.
  • Groin - Cod plate. Loincloths are allowed in addition to cod plate, but not in lieu of.
  • Thigh - Standard plate coverage or enclosed
  • Knee - Separate knee armor or extended shin armor
  • Shin - Standard shin type coverage
  • Boot - Some form of boot armor
  • Backside - Kama or enclosed thigh armor and butt armor

(http://i1321.photobucket.com/albums/u552/MercsBrigadier/front_zpsa558bd1a.jpg)

Thats my app pic from my Brigade application,  i've since added and adjusted several things.  Thats the base level of Heavy Assault, plus throat armor which is not visible in this shot. 


If there are any questions about these Armor Classes, feel free to ask !
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Kris Jasra on Sep 25, 2017, 05:33 AM
Hi i would like a clarification, for heavy armor, i was always under the impression that it was a collar that was required. I'm currently upgrading my kit for shock infantry and they state collar piece.

Here you say neck, do you mean a neck armor piece like a dog collar or is there just a mix in terminology ?

Apart from the usual collar plate that is required as part of the torso set for every class, Heavy requires some additional form of protection at the neck. Since the word collar is already in use, neck has been used here to try and differentiate the two items.

I do indeed have what looks to be an armoured dog collar, several plates on a leather backing that protects against pesky lightsabre decapitations. Other options are pauldrons (similar to stormtrooper/arc troopers) or to have a raised section on the collar and back plating which would protect the neck.
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Sithico on Oct 13, 2017, 04:51 PM
From what the list(s) say my planned armor would be a in between light or medium. Mostly will be Boba, but probably would have thigh plates, a gorget, and maybe a kidney plate. Would that be either or would it just be in the middle?
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Ashen Kelborn on Oct 13, 2017, 04:56 PM
From what the list(s) say my planned armor would be a in between light or medium. Mostly will be Boba, but probably would have thigh plates, a gorget, and maybe a kidney plate. Would that be either or would it just be in the middle?

If you don't fully have what is required as minimum for that armour class EG: missing shins/thighs for medium,  your still classed as the one you do meet the minimum requirement of in this case light armour.  ;)
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Speeps on Oct 29, 2018, 12:12 PM
Soooooo the plan I’m looking at for my build will comprise of :-

Helmet, Upper Torso set, shoulder,
Bicep,  Gauntlets, Back plate, Cape, Cod plate.
Thigh, Knee, Shin, Boot armour and butt armor.
The only piece missing from making this the minimum heavy level is the Neck piece.

This is my first build too, so is it worth just knocking up something for the neck or just declaring it’s a medium level build BUT with extras?

 ;D
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Sep Ho'ban on Oct 29, 2018, 12:14 PM
Armor level classification really only matters in terms of qualifying for certain brigades, and it's good guidelines for pieces that go together, but being exactly on the line doesn't really mean much other than the above.
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Speeps on Oct 30, 2018, 03:19 AM
Ah okay!

Cheers, Sep. Wasn’t too sure if it carried any real consequences being light/med or heavy.

Would Jaw armour, like Kara Kelborn’s, qualify as neck armour or is it more dog collar/neck shield like on a bomb disposal suit kind of thing that’s wanted?
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Sep Ho'ban on Oct 30, 2018, 08:54 AM
Ah okay!

Cheers, Sep. Wasn’t too sure if it carried any real consequences being light/med or heavy.

Would Jaw armour, like Kara Kelborn’s, qualify as neck armour or is it more dog collar/neck shield like on a bomb disposal suit kind of thing that’s wanted?

Neck armor is what keeps you from ending up like Jango Fett
Jaw armor, would still leave you headless.  Don't be like Jango ;)
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Speeps on Oct 31, 2018, 04:16 AM
....swishy - stabby thing blocker it is then!  :like:
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Straka Zulu on Nov 17, 2018, 10:01 AM
On that same note, would a gorget work in place of neck plates?
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Kris Jasra on Nov 17, 2018, 03:39 PM
On that same note, would a gorget work in place of neck plates?

That would depend what you mean by a gorget - dependent upon which period and location you are pulling the term from, a gorget is just the top piece of the torso armour that we refer to as the collar and then another of similar size to the rear and will not cover any of the neck. Or you could be looking at some of the designs that have any manner of neck protections built in - some may be enough to classify by mandalorians standards, some may not. I advise pictures of the sort of design you have found, without them there can be no answer when the term used has such a wide range of designs.
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Sep Ho'ban on Nov 17, 2018, 04:30 PM
On that same note, would a gorget work in place of neck plates?
Work for what? A custom build or for brigades. If brigades, as Kris said, get some references for your specific concept and ask in brigades. If for general custom, build anf enjoy!
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Straka Zulu on Nov 17, 2018, 11:51 PM
WHat I'm thinking is something along the lines of the high collar piece, like Thaxos has.
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Havelock on Nov 19, 2018, 06:36 PM
For a custom build, that should work fine.  For Brigades?  You'd need to ask the Brigades team.
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Straka Zulu on Nov 19, 2018, 09:21 PM
Was just curious, possibly for a Mk.III...
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Ryi Korle on Jan 14, 2019, 06:03 PM
Okay quick question regarding kamas, now I know this has been asked before, however Kyria and I have been debating about this for the past few hours and I just want to set the record straight once and for all.

So, here goes. Are kamas (armored or un-armored) considered part of the medium class armor (or any class armor for that matter) or are they simply considered soft stuff/extra equipment or accessories and not taken into consideration when it comes to armor class at all?

Thank you in advance, sorry for having to repeat this question but better safe than sorry.
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Ashen Kelborn on Jan 14, 2019, 06:24 PM
Okay quick question regarding kamas, now I know this has been asked before, however Kyria and I have been debating about this for the past few hours and I just want to set the record straight once and for all.

So, here goes. Are kamas (armored or un-armored) considered part of the medium class armor (or any class armor for that matter) or are they simply considered soft stuff/extra equipment or accessories and not taken into consideration when it comes to armor class at all?

Thank you in advance, sorry for having to repeat this question but better safe than sorry.

They are extras in medium armour doesn't require kama as its the same as Jango has in the films  ;)

Heavy armour can have them in armoured fashion for butt armour

This can be found in the description in the first post PLEASE CLICK FOR FIRST POST (http://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/index.php?topic=68676.msg1037751#msg1037751)
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Ryi Korle on Jan 14, 2019, 07:12 PM
They are extras in medium armour doesn't require kama as its the same as Jango has in the films  ;)

Heavy armour can have them in armoured fashion for butt armour

This can be found in the description in the first post PLEASE CLICK FOR FIRST POST (http://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/index.php?topic=68676.msg1037751#msg1037751)

Thank you very much, I shall pass along the info
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Tal Choruk on Jun 14, 2019, 03:47 PM
So at what point does it become a Medium kit missing thigh armor rather than a Light kit with shin armor, for example?
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Ashen Kelborn on Jun 14, 2019, 06:20 PM
So at what point does it become a Medium kit missing thigh armor rather than a Light kit with shin armor, for example?

If you have all the pieces for medium its medium until it gets all the pieces to reach heavy, till that time its light with additional parts.
It progresses up, not down  ;)
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: RC 1891 on Jun 14, 2019, 07:05 PM
Hey I'm curious about warp around armor. I want to do a heavy armor build and instead of individual plates I'd like to use wraparound. Would building armor like that stop me from becoming an official member?
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Ashen Kelborn on Jun 15, 2019, 03:04 AM
Hey I'm curious about warp around armor. I want to do a heavy armor build and instead of individual plates I'd like to use wraparound. Would building armor like that stop me from becoming an official member?

Nope, Look up Talos Kot (http://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;area=summary;u=359), very enclosed but remember to keep it mando looking and not cross into stormie looking  ;)
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: RC 1891 on Jun 15, 2019, 05:23 PM
Awesome!!!    I really like the look of his kit and am excited to start on my own.
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: andles17 on Nov 13, 2019, 03:09 PM
This post is regarding the heavy armor class and recently released (or leaked idk) images of a "heavy Mandalorian" Black Series figure. This new figure comes from the new "The Mandalorian" series. I will post the images below with some interesting things I noticed. Just thought this would be good to post since it's a new design, and now canon.

(https://i.imgur.com/DFh7kgF.jpg)

Here we can see the full figurine and the extent of his armament. He certainly is a heavy Mando. It's hard to tell but he has a jetpack on his back and some sort of hopper for his belt fed blaster.

(https://i.imgur.com/UNj1wNq.jpg)

This image is actually my favorite because the box art shows particular detail on the helmet. (PS if anyone begins making these plz let me know)
The helmet looks a lot like the Mando Stalker helmet from NME props, but with the normal domed shape, and normal ear greebles. Although, it seems like there are some things attached to those greebles, one of them being a range finder. (I had originally posted the full box art, but I replaced it with a photo of the figurine/box itself. I'm not certain that the box art itself is meant to be shared yet, and I wanted to respect the artist. However, there are plenty of images around the net of the figure in the box so that's what I've chosen to post instead.)
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Jacen Rangir on Dec 07, 2019, 09:07 AM
I think for point and purpose, duster and trench coat are interchangeable. The only difference is trench coat (heavier) is designed for military use and duster (lighter) is designed for riding horses. There a number of Mercs with long coats on the forums here. Jacen Rangir of the FireStorm Clan is an example.

I know I’m several years late to this, but I’m honored to be used as an example.
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Skel'aDor on Jan 23, 2020, 12:06 PM
I had already started a light armor build, something that would fit into an Assassin or Gunslinger category, how do I go about posting  pics to see if I'm on the right track?
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Ashen Kelborn on Jan 23, 2020, 12:23 PM
I had already started a light armor build, something that would fit into an Assassin or Gunslinger category, how do I go about posting  pics to see if I'm on the right track?

If you read first post (http://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/index.php?topic=68676.msg1037751#msg1037751) it's a pretty clear guide.
Boba is light
Jango is medium
Full coverage is heavy.
If you have yet to gain minimal coverage to get next stage then you are still lower level.
Eg, jango without thigh plates is considered light still.

Posting pictures wise then you need to look at forum rules and guides.

Also look up local clan and post there,  they will help you and building with vode is far more fun than on your own  ;)
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Skel'aDor on Jan 23, 2020, 01:37 PM


Thanks, I did attend an armor building get -together , but I was looking for specifics on Assassin and or Gunslinger kits, weapons etc. If there are any? Or Is there a way to contact someone in any one of those groups to get more detail?
Thanks again
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Ashen Kelborn on Jan 23, 2020, 01:55 PM

Thanks, I did attend an armor building get -together , but I was looking for specifics on Assassin and or Gunslinger kits, weapons etc. If there are any? Or Is there a way to contact someone in any one of those groups to get more detail?
Thanks again

If you became a supporter  (http://mandalorianmercs.org/get-involved/donate-to-mercs/)of the forum you would be able to access the Brigades area of this forum.
But I strongly suggest you first aim for clearance at a basic level first and then upgrade to Brigades with a new wip there so we can help you develop further ;)
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Not a Dooku fan on Feb 27, 2020, 10:38 PM
Would segmented upper torso armor still qualify for heavy? Or does it have to be one piece?
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Kris Jasra on Feb 27, 2020, 11:13 PM
It depends on the level of coverage of the rest of you, not what style of torso you use
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Not a Dooku fan on Feb 27, 2020, 11:23 PM
So you're saying I can use segmented torso armor for Heavy class?
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Kris Jasra on Feb 28, 2020, 12:44 AM
If you are doing a modern era kit, you can use any approved modern style torso armour and it will not have any effect on whether the overall kit is counted as light or heavy armour.
You can use Legacy style, which is full cover segmented if you wish to. It is the amount of armour not the style that counts for cover.
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Ashen Kelborn on Feb 28, 2020, 02:24 AM
Would segmented upper torso armor still qualify for heavy? Or does it have to be one piece?

Please refer to first post: Is my armour light, medium or heavy? (http://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/index.php?topic=68676.msg1037751#msg1037751)

Essentially Kris is right as per, type of armour has nothing to do with if light, medium or heavy but is more coverage.
The first post gives rough visual examples of what coverage is needed as well as parts required.

Hope it helps  :like:
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Not a Dooku fan on Mar 01, 2020, 03:27 PM
Thanks guys, I just wanted to make sure before things went pear-shaped and I had to start over!
Title: Heavy armor question
Post by: Chapelrabbit on Mar 07, 2020, 01:18 PM
I'm planning to do a heavy trooper build, I've looked at the helmet requirements but I'm asking just to be sure. I found a base helmet I like that I want to add on toand was wondering if it's acceptable
https://www.etsy.com/listing/536900964/mandowar-wnew-mouthpiece-mandalorian?show_sold_out_detail=1&frs=1

Also I'd like to make a heavy blaster like paz vizla and was wondering if it's also acceptable
Title: Re: Heavy armor question
Post by: Ashen Kelborn on Mar 07, 2020, 04:41 PM
I'm planning to do a heavy trooper build, I've looked at the helmet requirements but I'm asking just to be sure. I found a base helmet I like that I want to add on toand was wondering if it's acceptable
https://www.etsy.com/listing/536900964/mandowar-wnew-mouthpiece-mandalorian?show_sold_out_detail=1&frs=1

Also I'd like to make a heavy blaster like paz vizla and was wondering if it's also acceptable

Thats Zero cool stuff, pretty sure they are not clearable as it has identifiable toy parts.
(https://i.etsystatic.com/12326062/r/il/06b329/2250300609/il_fullxfull.2250300609_5sla.jpg)
Heavy blaster like PAZ shouldn't be an issue ;D
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Chapelrabbit on Mar 08, 2020, 03:12 AM
It shouldn't have any toy parts and the mouth piece allows for a 2/3 T visor, the thing that I haven't seen anything about on the requirements is about the widened visor than a straight T.
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Ashen Kelborn on Mar 08, 2020, 06:21 AM
It shouldn't have any toy parts and the mouth piece allows for a 2/3 T visor, the thing that I haven't seen anything about on the requirements is about the widened visor than a straight T.

This is more a question for the App team, you may want to ask them in  Mandalorian Q&A (http://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/index.php?board=424.0), this thread is purely "will this be light, medium or heavy armour?" ;)
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Chapelrabbit on Mar 08, 2020, 02:21 PM
This is more a question for the App team, you may want to ask them in  Mandalorian Q&A (http://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/index.php?board=424.0), this thread is purely "will this be light, medium or heavy armour?" ;)

Thank you for pointing me in the right direction
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Ashen Kelborn on Mar 08, 2020, 05:50 PM
Thank you for pointing me in the right direction

Your welcome, its what we are here for .... to help one another  ;)
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Crix Mallis on Nov 13, 2020, 10:52 AM
I’m gonna be making the Paz lizla armor set but I need measurements to actually start to work on the gear, starting from scratch and will be making the whole suit. Post imperial for it
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Hind24V on Dec 31, 2020, 02:56 PM
Are the different tiers of armor viable for all periods, or are some classes limited to some eras (for example, heavy armor falling out of use before the Post Imperial era, or something like that)?
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: jethroskull on Dec 31, 2020, 04:12 PM
I don't think so, at least not in the modern/PI realm. Obviously heavy still exists in PI...
Title: Re: Armor Classes : Light, Medium, Heavy
Post by: Arco'thyel Wyshla on Aug 16, 2021, 01:41 AM
I’m a bit confused as far as PI classification goes.

I see folks saying you don’t go up one level until you have all armor pieces of the previous level. But for example, PI CRLs don’t require knee armor. Does that mean any PI kit without knee armor does not qualify for the Light Armor classification? Even if we took a heavy kit like Paz and only removed the knees?