Mandalorian Mercs Costume Club

Clan and Stronghold Regions => Canada => USA & Canada => Wasu'ran Clan => Topic started by: Serim Merec on Jan 03, 2014, 05:20 PM

Title: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: Serim Merec on Jan 03, 2014, 05:20 PM
The BC forums are pretty quiet... Let's see if we can change that! 8)

We've got a couple Official Members, and plenty of potential members, but everything, from builds to forum participation, seems to be moving slowly. Perhaps starting to plan out Clan things will be the thing that gets people motivated, the one thing that finally breaks the dam and unleashes a wave of activity here in BC! ...Or not :P
We've got a New Member Check-In and kinda Off-Topic thread (http://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/index.php?topic=43923.0) and a Forum Member Roster (http://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/index.php?topic=53061.0) (that could use an edit ;) ), but how about a thread to plan things like our Clan name, Clan Crest, and maybe even a preliminary vote on leadership?

I've recently gotten a job so I soon will have cash to buy the last few things I need to start my kit, things that have eluded me and my tiny budget up until now, and I could even be Official by my 18th birthday in May. That's enough for a squad!
I do have some ideas for the Crest, at least, but I can't upload the picture just yet :rolleyes:

Just looking for some participation! If you have a thought, share it! It doesn't matter if you're Official or not, an active forum member or not, all opinions count! Let's get organized!

Oya!
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: Sidewalker on Jan 06, 2014, 03:17 AM
Here are some tips for how to succeed as a clan.

1) Network.  In order to build a membership base and get events, it's important to network.  Get to know your local 501st members.  You have a bunch in BC.  Some of them are working on Mando's too!  I keep bugging them to put build threads up here.  In Alberta, it's kind of easy.  Most of our events start out as 501st requests, and I branch them out to RL and Mercs.  As you get more members here, I'll try to bug the ORS to cross post events over here too.  But anyways, build friendships and get to know other costumers and event organizers.  Conventions are the prime place for that to happen of course.

2) Talk.  Post things in the forums, on facebook, wherever.  Get people motivated.  Encourage, encourage, encourage.  Be positive.

3) Have armour parties.  This is one of the best ways to intruduce your friends to costuming and help everyone learn new skills.  One person might be working with vacformed parts, another is weathering sintra armour, another is doing leatherwork, and someone is scaring everyone else by the way they hold a dremel/drill/exacto knife/slice of Hawaiian.  Teach each other, and learn from each other.  Have plenty of band-aids and iced tea.  And as we say in Hett'ciri Clan, it ain't an armour party until sparks fly.

Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: Serim Merec on Jan 06, 2014, 04:30 PM
Thanks for the tips Sidewalker! ;D I'll see what I can do about those first two ;)

EDIT:

I was wondering if anybody is active on FaceBook? We could start a group over there and keep in touch?

Oh, and here's that Crest I mentioned:
(http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/aa342/TheBigReader/MooseSkull.jpg)

I've had this idea hanging around for a long time! I was listening to the episode of Keldabe Talk Radio where Frost first calls Canadians "Mooses" and "Meese", and later that day I found a music CD from a local artist with the above graphic of a moose skull on it ;D Because it's an almost exact copy of what was on the CD I don't think we should use it as it stands, but perhaps it can get us moving in a direction, at least.
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: The Red Mandalorian on Mar 03, 2014, 01:27 PM
If you were not in the know.  Hett'ciri does now have a FB up. 
Be sure to sign up or ask Sidewalker for an invite. 
Invasion of Gottacon occured this weekend. 
I found out some important tips.  My Beskar'gam is still heavy (plan accordingly for your build), and I look forward to my new helm, (thank you Air Canada for crushing my 2nd helm to an from Dragon con) hope it is wider than my present, my eyebrow ridge swelling has reduced as well as the bruising from donning an removing too small a helmet.  I envied the Spartan he had a nice big helm.
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: Serim Merec on Mar 04, 2014, 02:04 PM
No, I was not in the know! I'll have to go find that page sometime :)

Though, this thread is more intended for planning our clan, here in BC. For now we are Hett'ciri, and it's awesome being able to say that, but we are not all that far away from needing to split off and form our own chapter of the Mercs and that's what I hoped this topic could assist.
But, then again, maybe I'm jumping the gun... Sure we've got loads of potentials, but hardly anyone is really having a prescence on the boards, so maybe we aren't as ready for a clan as I thought?
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: The Red Mandalorian on Mar 04, 2014, 04:28 PM
The FB site I believe is for Offical members.

If you want to go Clan you need to recruit!

My wife serves the CF an is presently at Sea, when she returns, I will be able to touch up her costume and submit her application.
My friend Andrew lives in Van and is a chronic procrastinsator.   I may have to visit him and build his suit around him. 
I have a final friend in the Okanagan that may be interested in joining us as his B Fett.
Those are my potential recruits to get us to higher numbers and Clan status. 

If you want to go Clan, you must be seen at events!

Pressence and numbers.
We need to be seen at events so that people know we exist.  Handing out flyers talking shop, providing PR escort, etc.
We need numbers, 3 for a Clan is fine, but to look good, for people to take notice 5 or more mandos in a group photo, gives an impact!

My nickle.
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: Tylek Ren on Mar 05, 2014, 02:37 AM
Hey hey! I am still alive and kicking and up island from the Red guy! :D

I should message you when next I'm down your way. It happens often enough with family scattered about this province.
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: The Red Mandalorian on Mar 07, 2014, 03:34 PM
Door is always open... till you piss me off  ;D

If anyone is ever on the Island / Victoria / Colwood you can reach me 778 433 8584

In the real world I go by Randy
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: Jayrodadon on Apr 02, 2014, 01:24 PM
Hey, I'm here too, (sometimes - ha!).  The girlfriend and I have a new kid so we are kinda busy.

We live in Ladysmith, and can be texted at 250 240 0704 if needed to be reached sooner than later, (plus it will be helpful to be reached at FanExpo too!).

Also, any other VI peoples out there may like to attend this yearly event. It was just Star Wars themed last year, but now is just things nerdy.  I went last year and plan on going again.  :)
https://www.facebook.com/groups/156942261146386/
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: The Red Mandalorian on Jul 07, 2014, 04:12 PM
Just passed my old armour on to a buddy, big helmet, and a little leather work and he'll be ready to go.
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: Zophar Ptay on Aug 08, 2014, 05:58 AM
necroposting.

more or less just need to finish my soft parts and I'll apply in the next couple weeks.   I have a side project that needs some sewing as well so I'll get it all knocked out at the same time.
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: Zophar Ptay on Aug 10, 2014, 06:27 PM
I came across this while looking for a sigil for my kit.   The artist didn't watermark, sign, copyright or otherwise give any way to track down who made it to ask permission or compensate the artist.   I am thinking it's going on my shoulder plate and put it forward as a clan sigil.

(http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z458/zopharptay/10580067_361206154031941_1459045549452087415_n_zps8699e347.jpg) (http://s1190.photobucket.com/user/zopharptay/media/10580067_361206154031941_1459045549452087415_n_zps8699e347.jpg.html)

I found it on google images under "simple tribal griffin head" or some combination of those terms and the link brought me to a dead website when I clicked it.
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: happyhunter1 on Aug 10, 2014, 10:19 PM
well I was at a armour party today and there was atlease 3 people that where in on the mando thing and one who is adam is building his armour as we speak.
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: Zophar Ptay on Aug 10, 2014, 10:21 PM
An armor party in the lower mainland and I didn't know about it?   The nerve of you kids. .   Lol    good to hear 😊
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: happyhunter1 on Aug 10, 2014, 10:21 PM
and i am waiting for some peices to come in and i start to paint the upper half of my armour tomorrow and sew the last three ammo pouches and attach them to the belt .
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: happyhunter1 on Aug 10, 2014, 10:23 PM
Zopmake you feel better if i say i still love you .
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: The Red Mandalorian on Aug 11, 2014, 03:43 PM
Tell us more about the armour party, more details!
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: Zophar Ptay on Aug 11, 2014, 05:39 PM
I did a cosplay/propmaking Q&A panel this weekend and may have two new recruits in Vancouver
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: happyhunter1 on Aug 11, 2014, 11:01 PM
well all the people where woroking on tk armour . but adam said he is building a desert mando and to recuits where deciding on mandos also . but i can not remember for the life of me which ones they where palning on .

As for me my wife just finished sewing my vest and i have order in my flight suit and that will be in about a week will just have to pick it up . now i am looking at combat boots and i was wondering what type . i am looking at the tall ones and i know that the legs from the flight suit will cover the tops . and we have made a neck seal from the left over leather from auntthe jacket we used.

i am waiting for the helm,gauntlet and boot and knee armour to come in and i know i am going to need help with putting the knees together and working out on how to keep the gauntlets closed
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: happyhunter1 on Aug 11, 2014, 11:05 PM
there is a con in oct. the 3 to the 5 in surrey sheition guildford which i think would be a great place to go and start recuiting for members . it cost nothing for the fan table and you get 2 free passes for the weekend . and the theme for the con is war so what better group to go and recuit than us . iot is call vcon look it up and tell me what you think
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: Zophar Ptay on Aug 11, 2014, 11:10 PM
There is a bunch of dirty clones right under my nose?!
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: happyhunter1 on Aug 11, 2014, 11:15 PM
yes and i am trying to change that little problem lol
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: Zophar Ptay on Aug 11, 2014, 11:59 PM
also, careful with combat boots; you'll have to make plates so no laces are visible
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: happyhunter1 on Aug 12, 2014, 10:24 PM
I have ordered boot armour to cover up the laces for that problem
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: Zophar Ptay on Aug 12, 2014, 10:33 PM
Ah, you did mention that.     Sorry I missed it

Anyone want to weigh in on using the gryphon I posted as our clan sigil?
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: happyhunter1 on Aug 12, 2014, 11:43 PM
I think it is a good one to use . I would put it on one of my chest pieces as i am doing light armour and do not need any shoulders but i do have them
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: paradoxdj on Aug 27, 2014, 03:16 AM
Hey guys, getting a clan started up out here would be great! I agree with the facebook page idea. It's one of the easiest ways to keep in touch with a group at the moment, at least for me it is.

 I took a quick stab at a clan crest. Just did a quick version of the Mythosaur skull in a more native american style. I might do another version and see if i can make it look more authentic though. What do you guys think?

(http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii287/paradoxdj/BC_Mandos_v001.jpg) (http://s267.photobucket.com/user/paradoxdj/media/BC_Mandos_v001.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: Serim Merec on Aug 27, 2014, 03:36 AM
Actually... I really like it! :) Maybe not that one exactly (I could still warm up to it ;) ), but I love the native american style idea! Very fitting for BC! Brilliant! 8)
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: Zophar Ptay on Aug 27, 2014, 03:12 PM
I have been thinking of a haida styled crest as well.  It is the way to go.   I don't want to do a mythosauror though, we should do something more unique
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: Serim Merec on Aug 27, 2014, 06:24 PM
Agreed. What should it be then? Animal? Object? Random design? Best to start broad and narrow it down.
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: Zophar Ptay on Aug 27, 2014, 06:34 PM
My vote is either avian or pescine.  A Haida orca was my first thought and would be fitting but perhaps cliche.

If anyone has the skill to do a decent looking design in this style [I'm not] I'd say lets go with a mythical animal like a griffin in the Haida style
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: Serim Merec on Aug 27, 2014, 06:55 PM
I'm not artistically gifted enough to attempt anything either, but, for whoever does, we have to remember to keep it simple. Haida tends to be really complex, which would make it difficult to make a template for painting on our armor. I went a googled some images for reference on simple haida images:

(http://www.canadiandesignresource.ca/officialgallery/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/hachidori2.jpg)
(http://media-cache-cd0.pinimg.com/736x/97/8f/c0/978fc07776b6ee4a31451f8673a51d39.jpg)
(http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2012/187/4/2/haida_polar_bear_by_sedo_mare-d5680zt.jpg)

(Obviously these aren't completely basic, but they are far simpler than most of the stuff you find)
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: Zophar Ptay on Aug 27, 2014, 07:01 PM
Another thought I had was to play on the "Sea to sky" concept for the name and/or logo.   But maybe that is too Vancouver-centric for a BC clan?
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: Serim Merec on Aug 28, 2014, 06:54 PM
While most of us seem to be on the coast, that does seem a little bit Vancouver-centric like you said. Does anybody else have any ideas? Don't let just me and Zophar make all the decisions! :P

Also, perhaps we ought to get a Facebook group going? That seems to be what most of use on a more consistent basis. I'd be happy to create it! Unless it's thought that an official member should do it?
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: The Red Mandalorian on Sep 09, 2014, 01:44 AM
I don't wish to burst the enthusiasim bubble gentlemen, but I am a pragmatist, and my first thought is membership numbers. 

Perhaps you should focus more on becoming official,  an recruiting friends with a like minded interest first, clan plans second. 

Auxillary an Support members cannot form a clan, cannot hold positions of command within a clan as I am sure you well know. 

If 3 or 4 of us form the clan, get the name, logo, form the facebook site, than what. 
Where do you see yourself in the clan if you are still Support or Auxillary?  If the official members decided to go an follow a different focus than yours, how will you feel? 

Serim has talked going Clan for a long time!  I would like to see you have an active part in its creation and direction, but that may not happen if you don't gain official status.

Zophar you have been "near completion" of your Beskar for many moons now, it's time to get over that hump, you have some good ideas, but they will have better emphasis when you are official.

With Paradox back up an posting the goal looks good, we have a couple more Mando's who may be able to gain official status soon. 

We have the potential for 4 official members status in BC before years end, in addition to Paradox and myself.  The new year could offer more practicality of creating a Clan

I am not trying to be a doomsayer, negative, or counter clan, like I said I'm a pragmatist a realist, and the fact is that in BC right now, there are too many wannabe mando's, singleposters, or shadowmando's and not enough goal oriented potential it has been that way since I have come back from out east 4 years ago.


Make this the end of year goal!
Get pictures of your armour up, so when it comes to evaluation, your vodes can supply positive advice, it will get you through the process faster, and allow you to focus on the goal sooner.

I'm sure we can go clan, I will help and support, but first things first, we need official members!  Get that "OFFICAL" plate!
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: Zophar Ptay on Sep 09, 2014, 01:56 AM
If 3 or 4 of us form the clan, get the name, logo, form the facebook site, than what. 


well.. presumably you would have been part of the conversation and given your ideas...
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: Serim Merec on Sep 09, 2014, 12:37 PM
*Warning! Counter-point post incoming! No aggression should be read in this! Everything is friendly and sharing of an opinion!* ( :P )

I don't wish to burst the enthusiasim bubble gentlemen, but I am a pragmatist, and my first thought is membership numbers. 

Perhaps you should focus more on becoming official,  an recruiting friends with a like minded interest first, clan plans second.

I see what you're saying Red, but here's the thing: For me, I don't see much point in getting Official right now. It's either I get Official, have no Clan, and troop alone, or get Offical, have a clan, and still troop alone. No way am I (or would I be if I were Offical) fit for leadership being both the youngest and furthest away from the majority of members, Official and potential, so there's no point working on it for that either.
And if I had local friends to recruit I would do that. But I don't. So if I don't wanna get Official yet, and can't recruit, what should I do?

Auxillary an Support members cannot form a clan, cannot hold positions of command within a clan as I am sure you well know. 

If 3 or 4 of us form the clan, get the name, logo, form the facebook site, than what. 
Where do you see yourself in the clan if you are still Support or Auxillary?  If the official members decided to go an follow a different focus than yours, how will you feel?
 

Just because I don't have the killstripes under my name doesn't mean I shouldn't have a say in things to come. Really all I'm looking for is everyone in BC, both Official and Unoffical, to give their input towards the clan they want to join. Just the simple things like the Clan's name and logo. Let everyone participate so they feel they're joining an all inclusive group, make everyone feel important.
The Facebook group I mentioned in my last post would be for this purpose. Most of us, including yourself Red, don't frequent the forum and thus won't get a say in anything if this is where things get decided. So why not open it up to everyone? It would certainly get people excited and more interested in completing their kits if they see a Clan forming that they can join when they're done, especially a Clan they had a hand in creating! And we could all start getting to know eachother! :D

Serim has talked going Clan for a long time!  I would like to see you have an active part in its creation and direction, but that may not happen if you don't gain official status.

Yes, I have been talking Clan for a long time, but, honestly, my intention has never been to actually form the Clan. Instead, all I've wanted to do was organize it. The purpose of this thread is simply that: To organize ourselves so we're ready when we have the numbers.
Should we all just go to our corners, complete our kits mostly on our own, and only then come out and get to know eachother and spend a few weeks figuring things out to form us together? Why not start to form the details and friendships that a Clan needs now? It's something we all can do regardless of time, money, location, member status, build status, etc.

Zophar you have been "near completion" of your Beskar for many moons now...

With Paradox back up an posting the goal looks good...

We have the potential for 4 official members status in BC before years end, in addition to Paradox and myself...

And there's the hope! We are so close! Six Official Members is a significant number, and, with the year's end approaching, there isn't much time! Let's get most things in place so we can drop that Clan Application as soon as possible! :D


I hope all that doesn't come across too argumentative (it's difficult to type calm, friendly voices into words :P ). I do get what you mean, Red, and you are right! We (and that includes me) need to get our acts together, and kits completed and approved, before a Clan can possibly happen. That's how it works after all! Official Members make Clans. But what of us who have been here long and have shown little or slow progress for reasons of their own? Can we not do our part while the Bondo dries, so-to-speak? While we can't work, let us plan! :) That's all I want to do.

Thank you if you read all that! :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: Zophar Ptay on Sep 09, 2014, 12:47 PM
Serim  -  pretty much nailed it.   I have absolutely zero incentive to get official.  I'm working on three kits and have another four bouncing around in the back of my very empty head.  Without any organization there is no motivation.  Trying to create the organization may help motivate myself and others. 
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: The Red Mandalorian on Sep 09, 2014, 04:40 PM
No hostillity interpreted in any of the posts, none intentially expressed, all very constructive an positive.

I hear where you both are coming from.  I really do.
I formed the 501st group here in BC and when we started out small, I saw the same issues

I am a bit polar opposite of you Serim, I'm probably the oldest here with the most experience trooping.

To answer some of your points;

We do have, an belong to a clan, "Hett'ciri", granted most of the membership is in Alberta, and Sask.
This forum is provided for all levels of membership to, ask questions, gain assistance, and to express themselves, transferring and the inclusion of other popular media outlets dillutes the flow of communication, an information can be lost, when the leadership needs to post important information.
The forum is designed to be the nexus, a place to inform and keep all members together, the use of popular media alternate outlets dilutes, and seperates the group or family cohesion many members desire. 
I understand and see the benefits of a FB site used as a PR tool, but Hett'ciri already has a Group, and there is a conflict if we create a Group for BC and we are as yet still not our own clan.  Permission from the leadership may also be needed.
There is a very thin difference of opinion in your statement of wanting to organize the BC membership into forming a clan, and the creation of the clan itself.  To do all the leg work and not be acknowledged in it's creation would leave myself a little jaded.

The Hett'ciri FB group is also offical members only, a suggested incentive to bump up your status, or you can start a thread in the Hett'ciri forums to petition the inclusion of lower level membership into the FB site.

I am not sure where you live Serim, but I understand it may be in the interior.  If so you are not alone.
The 501st has grown in membership in BC, and have several members in the interior, an North of Victoria on Vancouver Island, to be sole Mando Merc is unfortunate in your region, and no immediate comrades can be disheartening, but I encourage you to meet some of the 501st memebers, that may be in your area, many are talented, and good people to hang with, there may be activities you can participate in, with those members who may be in your area.

@ Zophar many costumes generates many distractions I know the feeling, I have a..... few as well  :-\   I can't really understand how you have no incentive to become offical and yet you wish to contribute to the group, your potential contributions would be most benefical to all.

In the end the motivation to become "Offical" is up to the individual, however, please understand;

Without the tag, you cannot "expect" to have full rights an entitlements; you don't have a vote, or a say in policy making within the group (which includes PR like FB), nor will you be authorized to form a Clan in BC (no point in thinking of names or creating logos), or be included into offical events/activities either locally or abroad. 
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: The Red Mandalorian on Sep 12, 2014, 10:26 PM
I have been looking into the formation of a Clan, by reading the Codex and By Laws, and I have noted a very important issue that needs to be acknowledged here.

There needs to be 5 Offical members to form a Clan, 3 for a Squad, we would still be under the umbrella of Hettciri. 

Serim, and Zophar that makes it more important than before for you to become official (motivation?)


For the Sake of Discussion on the topic heading lets explore properly going clan, we will need to debate/decide on the following;

Clan Name (already under some discussion)
Members @ Paradox, how long are you staying in the region?  If it is a limited time the need for continued recruitment is important if we fall below 5 we become a Squad if we cannot maintain 5 members.
Territorial Boundaries how far do you wanna stretch a new BC clan?

It has been my observation that a good unit should not expand from a city or stretch beyond city boundaries (or farther than a 5 hour drive between cities), it proves difficult to draw members together for events, issues vary, personalities / priorities are noticeably different in members from different cities, this has the potential to cause issues an disputes, there is also a certain financial restriction for members to hook up between Vic n Van.  (my observation/opinion only),

Clan logo already under discussion,
Majority-attended event easily Fan Expo in Vancouver, there is also a regularly run Toy Show an charity event in Victoria,
Clan bylaws not researched (no opinion)
statement of purpose outlining the reasons for their Clan to be formed
The few of us who do post here neither expressed pro's nor cons for our membership to Hettciri clan, I myself have trooped with elements of Hettciri, and Oceanhawks (Washington) Clan equally this year, without issues over either clan.
The last requirement must also include a list the administrative staff of the Clan, including an Alor’ad (CO), Ver’alor (XO), and Ruus’alor (Sgt. at Arms)... who wants some power?

Once these hurdles are jumped, and our application submitted, and approved we then have to troop "together" and not fracture within the 6 month probation.  Then we are reviewed again before officially approved.

So what to do next?
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: Zophar Ptay on Sep 12, 2014, 10:50 PM
The fact that it is a 10-13 hour drive to the core of our current clan makes it a no-brainer for splintering off.   I've met most of the old CK clan and a chunk of the former TK clan when they splintered, went to armour parties with both and had a great time, even tried to talk Bubba and company into annexing BC so I could be part of the CK.  One of the reasons I dropped off for a while was to avoid their drama; aint nobody got time for that.  But haven't been down since the reunification under the Oceanhawks banner.  I've never met a Hettciri except perhaps at C6; I think I met Ghostwalker at C6, but not certain.

   Ideally and realistically, I think Vancouver Metro and the Frasier Valley [Lower Mainland] is as far as is likely to actually troop together outside of maybe a big yearly gathering but that starts excluding people from what is already currently a small pool.  So I say claim all of BC to start with and then actively encourage factions to carve out an Okanagan Clan, an Island Clan, etc at a later date to encourage clans and squads that are local and likely to troop together.


Can we get an update in the census thread please so we have an idea who is around, how close they are, etc?


All that said, I can apply for OM any day at this point.   I'm working on tweaking and upgrading a few parts I'm not thrilled with.  A few bits that needed better fasteners, some better weathering on the soft parts, etc.
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: The Red Mandalorian on Sep 13, 2014, 11:05 PM
This is what we got:  (note previous post I mentioned Hettciri had members in Sask I was in error)

Sidewalker - Shawn - Calgary, AB - Cat.#0028 - Alor'ad
Jedi Ranger - Kris - Banff, AB - Cat.#0141 - Ver'alor
Ruusaar Cin - Peter - Calgary, AB - Cat.#0154 - Ruus'alor
The Red Mandalorian - Randy - Victoria, B.C. - Cat.#0117
ParadoxDJ - Patrick - Vancouver, B.C. - Cat. #0582
Callipso Liir - Deez - Edmonton, AB - Cat. #0749
Jag - Nicole - Edmonton, AB - Cat. #0820
Mommabeartrooper - Denise - Edmonton, AB - Cat.#0835   

Zophar Ptay, Late Crusader  Burnaby, BC   (near done)
Serim Merec, Modern Era     Summerland BC     
         
happyhunter1                     Surrey  (well under way)
Jossa Narsai, Modern Era     Kelowna, BC                 
Kad Jule,       Modern Era     Richmond BC                 
Tylek Ren,     Crusader        Campbell River, BC         
MikeinCan                          Vancouver
McCrex                              Nanaimo
Jayrodadon                        Ladysmith
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: Sidewalker on Sep 18, 2014, 05:00 PM
Like Randy said, BC still falls under Hett'ciri.  The biggest issue why BC is fairly inactive for the Mercs is because most of you guys haven't worked to get official status yet.  I also know Patrick has been busy with school and work, which is why I haven't pushed too hard for Mercs events if he's on his lonesome in Vancouver.  Terry with the Outer Rim Squad (soon to be garrison) knows he's able to invite Patrick to a Vancouver event if he wants to open the event up to Mercs.  Randy is a member of the 501st, so he know about the events that go on.  But even in Alberta, we hardly get any requests for teh Mercs.  99% of our events go through the 501st, and we open it up to the other costume groups.  If you guys go official and start making your presence known, I can help you to grow.  If you sit around and wait for the Mercs to become popular in BC without putting in the effort, it'll take a good long while, and other people will be the ones having fun trooping. 

My suggestion is to get official, and figure out some events you want to do together.  Charity walks, conventions, all those things are good.  I can help you get organized.  Once you guys have the solid numbers, then form a clan.  But like Randy said, you're kind of putting the cart before the horse.

I'll be in Vancouver this weekend if anyone wants to meet up!  Planning to go to EXP on saturday night at 8.  I can give you all sorts of ideas about how to get things going. 
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: Zophar Ptay on Sep 18, 2014, 06:03 PM
I work Saturday so not sure when I'll be free but 8 should be late enough to work....
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: happyhunter1 on Sep 28, 2014, 07:53 PM
i am also a member of the 501 st and can add events that vancouver is planning here on the forum . And really we do need to get approvals on armours first guys and than get planning on the bc clan . that is why I am trying to get my stuff ready as fast as i can but due to the flooding in the detroit my guy making the last bits of my armour has hit a bit of a back log. And i am working on my weapons right now and due to my rush I have hit some paint problems where it it bubbling up on my in some areas.

And since my plans to go to celebrtion in april and show off my merc armour is one of my hopes I am feeling under the gun on this . So my question is . is it time to get us together and have a armour party so we can get things done and take this off the planning table and make it real. I am more than ready to head this project as my da use to say to me " piss or get off the pot " please this is not to say we have not done anything but we need the approvals to get to where we want to be with this idea and i back it completely. And want to show the world we can do this.

yes i know this is a long winded thing but i believe in it and I know we all want it to happen. so ipeople let me know if you want to come over and make all our wish come true .

your happy hunter
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: Zophar Ptay on Sep 28, 2014, 08:00 PM
I've tried a few times to get armour parties going.   I haven't met a single 501 here in BC and as far as I can tell I'm on my own out here.  If you'd be so kind as to post the 501 events so locals can at least get to meet each other that would be wonderful.  Other than that, I've sent in my application.  As a freelancer.  This thread is and was an attempt to build some form of community in the area because there is none.  We don't belong in the Hett'ciri, we don't belong in the Oceanhawks, we're on our own out here and trying to get to know each other and get to build a sense of community.

If you and TRM want to go about this with the whole "if you aren't OM then your ideas aren't even worth considering" mentality, then I'm not interested in being part of your future clan either.   I'm quite content as a freelancer.
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: happyhunter1 on Sep 28, 2014, 10:17 PM
that is not what i am saying . weather you have om  or not your ideas matter in this idea of growth. and you are not the only one here. you told me before that you can not commit to dates due to your work . So i am going to do this . my phone number is 604-785-2326 call me and we can work on our stuff together so we both and get things done. I work monday to friday and i am home at 730 pm and i am free on sundays to work on stuff. And this go for anyone else who want to work on stuff or just have a shoot the -censored- night over coffee of any other drink.

We all want this to work out and give bc its own clan.
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: Zophar Ptay on Sep 28, 2014, 11:00 PM
Yes, my work isn't conducive to making plans.   As an example, today was my only day off this/last week, and tomorrow I'm working 6AM-9PM.   That should likely be my hours every day through the end of October, seven days a week unless one of my contracts cancels on me.  I might could do a pint one night, but that would be about the extent of it.
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: happyhunter1 on Sep 28, 2014, 11:33 PM
a pint sounds great to me . call me and we can meet up
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: Zophar Ptay on Sep 28, 2014, 11:35 PM
Been meaning to make my way back out to Central City Brewery.   I'll have to take it day to day though... i'll be in touch
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: The Red Mandalorian on Sep 30, 2014, 11:35 PM
May I say congratulations Zophar on your citizenship, I see on FB well deserved.

In regards to the point of this topic, (and I mean this totally from a pro-constructice and positive way)

I understand the intent of the topic, however by the topics title, you also have to accept the rules and responsibility of which the topic entails.
Just because we live in BC we cannot simply consider ourselves non-members of Hett'ciri Clan.
 
If you do not feel any allegiance to the clan, it is understandable.  However that does not mean you can plan and implement actions that may not be acceptable or spite the clans leadership, and still call yourself a Mando Merc.

Going Freelance and official is contradictory to the goals you wish to reach.  (I'm not even sure that is allowable, as you reside within the geographical boundaries of a clan)

That will start problems, I would consider non-constructive, our CO is very open to ideas for growth and recruitment direction in our area, he posted earlier above Sidewalkwer is a good man to talk to and willing to help us.

The Outerrim Squad is now the Outerrim Garrison.  They are the 501st representation of BC and has grown large enough to separate from Badlands.
They have a membership of 32 (I an my wife are excluded from the ranks) the majority is separated into Van, Vic, an the interior.
Serim is about an hour an a half from members north of him, in the interior.

The main trooping event for the ORG is Fan Expo in Van, they had a major booth there this year, Mando Mercs from Hett'ciri Alberta were also in attendance. 

To gain better contact with them, and to gain potential cross trooping events, you can contact them, through FB here;
https://www.facebook.com/OuterRimSquad once you contact them on FB, and you get to know them better they may invite you into their closed FB group, they also have a Twitter account, I don't use Twitter and cannot provide additional info.

Kindly don't mention me, I have had my own drama's that I do not wish to taint your getting to know them.

Your input is important, that is the purpose of this forum, to hear what everyone has to say on the subject, but you also have to accept the fact that there is a goal, and if you are not willing to attain the goal, or to choose to reach it and then to go "lone wolf"  will not help you in the goals you initially supported.

I am not trying to take over, be pushy, knock you down or be dismissive of your opinions/posts, simply because I am  "Offical"

I have done the research, have put the time in, gained the experience, understand the mindset of the community you are in.
It is my intent to relay my knowledge, try to provide guidance, and make recommendation towards direction.

Be Well!


Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: Serim Merec on Oct 01, 2014, 03:27 AM
Alright, Red, I get it. I've heard this type of debate, though not on the same subject, a number of times on the Mercs, but now I think I understand this how you're meaning it. There is nothing appropriate to be done organizationally at this time besides becoming OM.

In my defense, when I opened this thread I wasn't aware that we were in Hett'ciri territory. I thought that BC was simply included with the Clan because it was the closest one, but that it was more of an option than a "this is the Clan you belong to" thing. Now I know better.
(In fact when I first signed up I asked in my intro thread if there was a Clan in BC and was told by the Mand'alor that there wasn't, despite Hett'ciri being around at the time. Again, though, I know better now.)

I'd also like to say I have nothing against Hett'ciri! I've met Sidewalker and Ruusar Cinn a few times now at FanExpo, and and they're both really cool dudes! The problem remains, though, that it's a major pilgrimage to the core of our Clan, and add to that the fact that hardly any of the membership is even semi-active on the forum (as far as I know. The activity could be more and I haven't noticed, but the perceived quietness is why I was interested in a FB group since, I imagine, that is usually more commonly frequented), making it difficult for me to get to know them and create a feeling of belonging among them.
But if BC is Hett'ciri, then BC is Hett'ciri.

I apologize for how this thread can be read from Leadership's point of view: As one of dissension. It was not intended. Like I said above, I didn't know I belonged to a Clan that I could be a dissenter to!

There are a few points raised since my last post that I would like to address and try to explain my ideas better, so it can be understood my only intent was to be helpful, but there is really no point perpetuating the discussion. My bottom line would still look like this:

In the end I will end up joining Hett'ciri, and quite happily since it means I will finally be an Official Member of this Club that I've been with for so long! I still retain my opinion that there is no hurt in debating (not "deciding") names and logos as a "for fun" thing in the downtime while we aren't/can't work on our kits, but understand that that will likely not be possible. So I will be content to let this thread die, and even be locked, until such time as a discussion of the subject is more appropriate and a new thread can be opened.

I sincerely hope I have not left a bad taste in anyone's mouths with this! All I would like to do is be helpful in a way that I can be at this time, but it appears that what I can do is not needed.

I honestly look forward to trooping with, and as a member of, Hett'ciri! And to working with the other groups around here! :)

Oya Hett'ciri!
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: Sidewalker on Oct 03, 2014, 06:33 PM
I can see where the confusion comes from.  The BC section of this forum was started because it was intended that BC would soon form its own clan, just as Saskatchewan has done.  That just hasn't happened yet.  If you guys want to officially be members of Hett'ciri, let me know, and I'll get you added.  Unfortunately, I don't get notifications when a membership gets approved in my territory (like I do in the RL and 501st) so you'll actually have to let me know.

Once there are 5 of you, please, start a clan.  That would be awesome.  I agree it's difficult to coordinate things from a province away.  I do make my way into BC at least 3-5 times a year though (not counting snowboarding and hiking just over the BC/AB border), so don't feel like I'm entirely unreachable.
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: Sh'Sou HolDa on Oct 03, 2014, 11:18 PM
I can see where the confusion comes from.  The BC section of this forum was started because it was intended that BC would soon form its own clan, just as Saskatchewan has done.  That just hasn't happened yet.  If you guys want to officially be members of Hett'ciri, let me know, and I'll get you added.  Unfortunately, I don't get notifications when a membership gets approved in my territory (like I do in the RL and 501st) so you'll actually have to let me know.

Once there are 5 of you, please, start a clan.  That would be awesome.  I agree it's difficult to coordinate things from a province away.

I applaud this motion. In some areas, official members can be located far enough away from one another that it makes official Clan status difficult, but NOT impossible. I can cite my own clan's experience in having members in and around a "central" location (Winnipeg) with a few satellite members who would be able to come down for certain events, maybe one or two a year. Vhetin'Ade also took a couple of OM's into the fold from North Dakota who eventually went on to become their own squad.

The same can happen here. There is no issue or problem in being a Freelancer of course, or go on to be lone wolf, but the benefits do show when you are part of a clan, or take the initiative to start your own.

As a side note, it is always a good idea to take a look at the Clan Locator when looking to becoming official as part of the MMCC, and contact the Alor'ad of the closest clan should you seek to be part of it. That way, you have an idea as to how close you may or may not be in order to take part of the events, parties etc. or look to make the decision to create a clan of your own with others that are close by. No one wants to or should feel alienated in their membership and I am glad to see that things got straightened out in this thread. Id like to see BC get a clan together, so do not hesitate to contact me in any capacity if you have questions in how to do so.

CLAN LOCATOR
(LINK: http://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/index.php?action=ezportal;sa=page;p=26#usa)
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: The Red Mandalorian on Oct 11, 2014, 02:20 AM
@ Serim, I mean know hostility, short temperament, or impatience intended toward you or any other member posting here. 

I only wished to point out the importance of doing it all the right way, my views are in my lengthy replies above, so will not beat a dead gundark.

This is a good thread, lots of dialogue and good people saying their bit.  Perhaps not a Clan but a squad to get us growing is in order.

I have a good potential event coming up in Victoria this time next year (Oct 2015), I'm helping to organize it, and perhaps that can be a good goal for all of us to meet up at.
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: McCrex on Oct 11, 2014, 04:02 PM
How many guys do we have in each area of BC? From what I can see we've got 4 guys here on the Island (Myself, Jayrodan, Red, and Tylek). Are you our only Mainlander right now Zophar?
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: Serim Merec on Oct 11, 2014, 06:53 PM
Oren-Cathal is also on the Island ;) I'm down in the Okanagan
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: Zophar Ptay on Oct 12, 2014, 12:51 AM
McC - there are a few others who pop in and out in the Vancouver area, but no OM and no steady contact with the others.
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: paradoxdj on Oct 12, 2014, 10:16 PM
Sorry, I seem to have disappeared for a while.

To answer a question above, I'll be around in Vancouver for as long as I can, jobs are good for me out here. So Keep in the the possible count.

I agree that perhaps we should start out as a squad under the Hett'ciri banner until we can get a full membership roster to form our own clan. Get some events in together under the same banner and start forming that mando bond together, with that perhaps we'll all be more excited to recruit other members and build up afull  clan. Perhaps having a squad formed will get people motivated to finish up their kits so they can get in on the event fun.

I can attest to how good it is to meet the local members of other groups as well (501st, Rebel Legion, etc.) and to see what events they're opening up to the Mercs. I've been doing this and it's been great to troop and get out there in armour even without many other mercs around here. Helps keep me active until the one or two times that I actually get to troop with members of the Hett'ciri (It's great to actually get out with other Mercs and worth waiting every year). Trooping with other groups has also got me excited to work on my own kit and do upgrades, replacement parts, and what-not. So if you have a kit or want to finish your kit but have no one to troop with then maybe that's one option to get yourself motivated and active?
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: Zophar Ptay on Nov 23, 2014, 11:14 PM
Well, we have three OMs in BC so where are the rest of you recruits at?   Who is closest to being complete? Who needs what?
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: Zophar Ptay on Jan 24, 2015, 07:40 PM
Bumping this tread and bringing it back.   We have three OMs, an armour party at my place tomorrow with another three recruits and the local 501st has a couple of Bobas in the works so I think we can start putting some honest thought into actually getting off our shebs and making this happen.     So long as tomorrow isn't a total cluster, I'll host regular parties until we get what we need done.

I've also  been talking to Sidewalker, our Alor'ad, about the issue and we have his blessings to secede once we're ready provided I pay the Secession Fee of one plate of teriyaki wings, which I am willing to pay out of pocket. ;)

So I want to get the juices flowing again, bring this discussion back and see what we can work out.

Clan names:  I've been thinking a lot about what we could call ourselves.   We're a very diverse province and I don't want a name that would be too location specific like my initial thought of translating "Sea to Sky".   We could go with translating a provincial park like Goldenears, which might be neat.. or something else entirely.  Sidewalker put forward the idea of "Cerar Shonar" or "Shonar Cerear Clan"which is "mountain wave" (or the reverse), perhaps abbreviate to "Sho'Cerar Clan".   I found one on mandoa.org that I like:  "Udesla Clan".  Udesla translates to  "calm (of sea etc) unflappable (of a person), serene, relaxed".   "Mountain City" translates to "Cerar Oriya".
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: Serim Merec on Jan 24, 2015, 09:01 PM
I like the idea of having mountains in the name, since the Rockies run pretty much through the whole province! Of the ideas you came up with, I like Sho'Cerar Clan best.

I'll have to see what I can think of...
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: Zophar Ptay on Jan 24, 2015, 09:07 PM
Sidewalker mentioned Sho'Cerar which is a variant on "mountain wave" when we tried to translate his suggestion of "Mountain Tide".   It was the colsest we could get, but it could definitely work.
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: bassplaya on Jan 26, 2015, 11:28 AM
I'm having trouble finding a good translator, and the dictionaries seem to stop at H. Some things that are definitely reminiscent of bc are; crows, mountains, spirit bear, ocean/ rivers, traffic. At least those are the ones that jump right out at me
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: Zophar Ptay on Jan 26, 2015, 01:35 PM
Oh, I love the idea of Spirit Bear... but I doubt there's a word for bear.. we may have to go with calling ourselves the Ghost Ewoks.  BWAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: Serim Merec on Jan 26, 2015, 02:31 PM
I went through the Mando'a dictionary and couldn't find anything the could even remotely be interpreted as "bear", and the only word for "spirit" is Manda, which isn't quite the right form of the word we're looking for :-\

I do like the idea of the spirit bear, though, so how about it being our clan logo?
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: Zophar Ptay on Jan 26, 2015, 02:45 PM
relevant (http://geekologie.com/2014/10/star-wars-in-the-style-of-northwest-coas.php) ;-P
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: bassplaya on Jan 26, 2015, 04:28 PM
Lol my favorite is the walking lodge

Edit* so photobucket was lame yesterday but here's a pic I think represents the spirit bear nicely could add a border or some creative licence I think

(http://i492.photobucket.com/albums/rr281/badassbassplaya/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20150127_085528.jpg) (http://s492.photobucket.com/user/badassbassplaya/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20150127_085528.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: Serim Merec on Jan 27, 2015, 07:30 PM
That looks awesome! 8) I think it's a little too complex as it stands, though. I really like the spirit bear direction we've got going! But we'll need to consider making it something simple enough to make a template out of for painting on our armour...
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: Zophar Ptay on Jan 27, 2015, 07:35 PM
I can go with spirit bear, I also would love something that could be converted to a stencil for spraying the ammo cases and such that we were discussing in proper military fashion.  Even without the stencil, I agree with Serim that that one is likely too complex for embroidering patches and such.  Are we going with the name "Ghost Ewoks" then?    8) :P 8) :P

There IS precedent for clan names in English if we want to just keep "Spirit Bear Clan", I suppose
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: Serim Merec on Jan 27, 2015, 07:56 PM
I'm gunna vote "nay" on the Ghost Ewoks! :P (even though my vote don't count :rolleyes: ) Perhaps someone could post in the translation request thread and see if they can come up with anything close, even "Ghost beast" would be close enough.

Otherwise, I like a Spirit Bear for our logo, and, of what's been offered so far, I like Sho'Cerar for the name :)
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: Zophar Ptay on Jan 27, 2015, 08:20 PM
Wha?!   No Ghost Ewoks?    LOL    If we want to go off og Spirit Bear with the name, perhaps translating intent rather than animal would work better.   Something along the lines of translating "guardian spirit" or something?


Cabur = Guardian/Protector
Manda = the collective soul or heaven - the state of being Mandalorian in mind, body and spirit - also supreme, overarching, guardian-like

*shrug*   I've always sucked a naming things...
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: McCrex on Jan 28, 2015, 03:22 AM
Cabur'uliik maybe? Guardian beast
Or "Runi" is soul. Run'uliik?
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: McCrex on Jan 28, 2015, 03:46 AM
Also, if we have it as "beast" rather than a specific animal then we can have different beasts for different elements. Heavy assault could utilise bear, aquatic environment could use orca or salmon, pilots and air assault could use raven, and so on.
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: bassplaya on Jan 28, 2015, 01:31 PM
Here's a quick sketch took out some lines and added a raven, sort of a watch my back I'll get yours idea here...

(http://i492.photobucket.com/albums/rr281/badassbassplaya/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0093.jpg) (http://s492.photobucket.com/user/badassbassplaya/media/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0093.jpg.html)

Lol it's hard to add a border to this without it looking like a crossing sign
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: Zophar Ptay on Jan 28, 2015, 02:31 PM
One idea I had was instead of a full bear, we could do a bear paw with ghostly wisps surrounding it if we want to go spirit bear symbol

I like Sho'Cerar but concerned that the Colorado clan is already Cerar Clan.   The old Washington clan name was Cer'kurshi [Mountain'Tree] so perhaps Cer'Shonar?

McCrex - I'm not sure we can do the different beast for different kits thing officially, but there's no reason someone couldn't put a personal sigil on their kit, I suppose.

Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: Serim Merec on Jan 28, 2015, 02:43 PM
Typed this up, but then Zophar replied... I'm just gunna post what I had :P

Cabur'uliik maybe? Guardian beast
Or "Runi" is soul. Run'uliik?

Also, if we have it as "beast" rather than a specific animal then we can have different beasts for different elements. Heavy assault could utilise bear, aquatic environment could use orca or salmon, pilots and air assault could use raven, and so on.

Interesting. I didn't think to use runi or uliik because the former was more a poetic version for soul, while the later meant "pack animal." I'll keep pondering that...
Though, we wouldn't be able to have different animals, unless they were all in one logo, or we just agreed amongst ourselves that we wanted to do that kind of thing, because we can only have 1 Official Clan logo :-\

My only new name idea was Sho'Tra, or Sho'Batra Clan, (Sea-Sky, or Sea and Sky Clan). That references either the Sea to Sky highway, though that may be a little Vancouver centric (not that that is unwarranted, seeing where the OMs are), or we can see it as a "from the sea to the top of the Rocky mountains" kind of thing. Thoughts?

Here's a quick sketch took out some lines and added a raven, sort of a watch my back I'll get yours idea here...

(http://i492.photobucket.com/albums/rr281/badassbassplaya/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0093.jpg) (http://s492.photobucket.com/user/badassbassplaya/media/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0093.jpg.html)

Lol it's hard to add a border to this without it looking like a crossing sign

Bassplaya, you are an artist! 8) I definitely like that style better than what I've got going! I've been trying to draw a bear paw with a sort-of "whispy-ghosty" look to get the spirit idea across, but I think what you've got accomplishes the spirit look and looks awesome!
Personally, I'm not sure about the raven... I think it makes it a little too "dynamic", but, if you're up to it, keep doodling with that bear style and see if there are other poses you can do, like an over-the-shoulder-glance, or straight-on just the head ;D I'm liking where this is going!
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: bassplaya on Jan 28, 2015, 03:52 PM
Me too I love tossing the ideas out here, thanks I'll try to doodle some more ideas. If we were to use non mando words 'kermode' (Wikipedia's word for spirit bear) kind of fits. Im kind of liking the idea of a clan message something like ' sea to sky, and everything between'.
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: Zophar Ptay on Jan 28, 2015, 04:00 PM
LOL.   I looked up the spirit bear (the actual animal) too bu I will NOT be known as the Commode Clan :-P

I can't draw for my life and i can't tell you what would have to change, but looking at just that bear's head alone I'd say it was a badger for some reason.    It looks great as a whole, though I agree I'd drop the raven


Obviously, at this point, this is all in good fun.. don't get too attached to any ideas.
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: bassplaya on Jan 28, 2015, 04:57 PM
Haha the more I look at it it looks like a gerbil lol.

Here's some clip art I found online...

(http://i492.photobucket.com/albums/rr281/badassbassplaya/Mobile%20Uploads/Screenshot_2015-01-28-13-20-17.png) (http://s492.photobucket.com/user/badassbassplaya/media/Mobile%20Uploads/Screenshot_2015-01-28-13-20-17.png.html)

(http://i492.photobucket.com/albums/rr281/badassbassplaya/Mobile%20Uploads/Screenshot_2015-01-28-13-04-15.png) (http://s492.photobucket.com/user/badassbassplaya/media/Mobile%20Uploads/Screenshot_2015-01-28-13-04-15.png.html)

(http://i492.photobucket.com/albums/rr281/badassbassplaya/Mobile%20Uploads/Screenshot_2015-01-28-13-18-35.png) (http://s492.photobucket.com/user/badassbassplaya/media/Mobile%20Uploads/Screenshot_2015-01-28-13-18-35.png.html)
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: Serim Merec on Jan 28, 2015, 05:21 PM
I like the last two there, Bass! 8)

This is what I've been doodling (with numbers for you guys to reference). Still don't have a clear direction, so it's mostly just low quality:
(http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/aa342/TheBigReader/B3A57ADD-8916-413B-9723-3E5B3DDE7F39_zpshpnar8fz.jpg)

Also, instead of Kermode, which does sound like commode ( :P ), we could "Mando-ize" it. Ker'modee (Ker-moe-DEE), Ker'Mod (Ker-MOD), Ker'Mod (Care-MOHD)?
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: bassplaya on Jan 28, 2015, 06:12 PM
I like the kamehameha bear number 7
Here's one more that last one I put on bugs me cause its too obviously a grizzly

(http://i492.photobucket.com/albums/rr281/badassbassplaya/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20150128_150123.jpg) (http://s492.photobucket.com/user/badassbassplaya/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20150128_150123.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: Zophar Ptay on Jan 28, 2015, 06:26 PM
Serim - #3 is very close to what I was thinking if you bring the flame border down around the bottom of the paw as well like a backdrop.  Black paw, purple/blue flame is what I keep thinking
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: CamBedore on Jan 29, 2015, 11:49 PM
If we're going for a sea to sky idea why not a flying fish?  :laugh: I'm kidding of course. I like the idea of a spirit bear, i also really liked the idea of the moose I think the moose skull would look incredibly cool.
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: Serim Merec on Jan 30, 2015, 12:25 AM
Serim - #3 is very close to what I was thinking if you bring the flame border down around the bottom of the paw as well like a backdrop.  Black paw, purple/blue flame is what I keep thinking

I'll try and get another mock up done like that tomorrow :)

If we're going for a sea to sky idea why not a flying fish?  :laugh: I'm kidding of course. I like the idea of a spirit bear, i also really liked the idea of the moose I think the moose skull would look incredibly cool.

Allow me to bring that back to the current page, then! :D
(http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/aa342/TheBigReader/MooseSkull.jpg)
I think a spirit bear is more to my liking, now that we've gotten this far, but may as well leave no stone unturned :rolleyes:

Also, my mom actually found an interesting pic:
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t34.0-12/10946001_10152698914490488_1381748877_n.jpg?oh=b66334de3176e19357cd51790cb555e1&oe=54CDD137&__gda__=1422783334_dffc3b910664b29714fe1742cd5eea56)
I wonder if it's possible to make that a little more aggressive and Mando Merc-y?
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: happyhunter1 on Jan 31, 2015, 12:23 AM
i like the third one that was off pinterest myself
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: Zophar Ptay on Jan 31, 2015, 12:38 AM
Serim - that last one is.. so.. ... cute!  LOL
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: Serim Merec on Jan 31, 2015, 01:25 AM
Serim - that last one is.. so.. ... cute!  LOL

 :P Yeeeaahhh... I figured we could make a little angrier :laugh:

Got another drawing done up, will do a few more since I got some ideas, and will upload again soon
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: happyhunter1 on Jan 31, 2015, 10:23 AM
yeah i am with Zop it is soooo cute.
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: Cyrika on Feb 02, 2015, 05:17 AM
(http://i1061.photobucket.com/albums/t473/rnjlight/mandobearpaw_zpsdbd0ce91.jpg) (http://s1061.photobucket.com/user/rnjlight/media/mandobearpaw_zpsdbd0ce91.jpg.html)


Just a fast, easily done idea of what we can do. I can't do much more with the program at work, but maybe along the right inside circle we can put writing of our clan name in Mando'a??? Easy pic to work on/change, but the idea of a bear claw encircling a mythosaur skull seems neat. Maybe we could have some waves at the bottom, and mountains in the background. Maybe I'm getting overzealous!

Sorry, but the moose ears are just...  :-X
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: bassplaya on Feb 02, 2015, 02:04 PM
Here's a quick one I did on my phone at work...

(http://i492.photobucket.com/albums/rr281/badassbassplaya/Mobile%20Uploads/PSX_20150202_105503.jpg) (http://s492.photobucket.com/user/badassbassplaya/media/Mobile%20Uploads/PSX_20150202_105503.jpg.html)

The only thing I'm really partial to is the white and gold bear placed over the background probably make the bears eyes and nose black
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: Serim Merec on Feb 02, 2015, 05:44 PM
(http://i1061.photobucket.com/albums/t473/rnjlight/mandobearpaw_zpsdbd0ce91.jpg) (http://s1061.photobucket.com/user/rnjlight/media/mandobearpaw_zpsdbd0ce91.jpg.html)


Just a fast, easily done idea of what we can do. I can't do much more with the program at work, but maybe along the right inside circle we can put writing of our clan name in Mando'a??? Easy pic to work on/change, but the idea of a bear claw encircling a mythosaur skull seems neat. Maybe we could have some waves at the bottom, and mountains in the background. Maybe I'm getting overzealous!

Sorry, but the moose ears are just...  :-X

I like that one, Cyrika (or should I spell it Cyarika, since that's what you intended? :P ), it's simple, Mando-y, and easy enough to stencil :) The only thing, though, is I've always wanted to stay away from the mythosaur, personally, because everyone does that... But I never seem to like going with the mainstream, so that kinda explains why! :laugh: I'd be good with that if it got voted for.

Also, the "ears" on the moose are the antlers :rolleyes: :P
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: CamBedore on Feb 02, 2015, 06:12 PM
What about a mythosaur skull with the antlers to create a bit of a hybrid creature infront of the bear paw and some mountains? Might be a bit too busy and I don't have art skills to mock something up but in my head it sounds kinda cool  :P
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: bassplaya on Feb 02, 2015, 10:23 PM
I like that one, Cyrika (or should I spell it Cyarika, since that's what you intended? :P ), it's simple, Mando-y, and easy enough to stencil :) The only thing, though, is I've always wanted to stay away from the mythosaur, personally, because everyone does that... But I never seem to like going with the mainstream, so that kinda explains why! :laugh: I'd be good with that if it got voted for.

Also, the "ears" on the moose are the antlers :rolleyes: :P

Totally agree serim the mythosaur is over done, exactly why I'm not into the paw print. My high school mascot was the wild cat so of course paw prints every where
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: happyhunter1 on Feb 03, 2015, 12:37 AM
i like more the full ghost bear logo than the paw and mythsauor myself. but than i am atuned to the bear as that is more my nature.
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: Serim Merec on Feb 03, 2015, 01:34 AM
(http://i492.photobucket.com/albums/rr281/badassbassplaya/Mobile%20Uploads/Screenshot_2015-01-28-13-04-15.png)

Actually, looking back, I think one like the smaller just-the-head part of this pic might be interesting... I'll see if I can put what's in my head on paper and put that up with another one.

I'm liking the brainstorming going on! 8)
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: happyhunter1 on Feb 03, 2015, 10:50 AM
i have a pic i want to post here and can not find out how to post it . can someone let me know how to do it.

Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: bassplaya on Feb 03, 2015, 11:19 AM
Go to photobucket sign in with Facebook, don't let it auto post your pics to Facebook( in case it's a cell phone), then hit upload. After its on there look for the' chain link ' button to find codes for posting
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: happyhunter1 on Feb 05, 2015, 10:59 PM
http://i1377.photobucket.com/albums/ah44/tiny36/clan%20pic_zpsndbskrzl.jpg
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: Zophar Ptay on Feb 05, 2015, 11:07 PM
busy, but I love the idea if you drop the overlaid bear images and left he head and crosses.   is that Pooh in the bottom left?  motto works too, if we choose not to go with a mando'a mottto

[edit]
awww.    Just saw that it's an existing group.   got my hopes up.   I like their logo though

(http://i.imgur.com/Q18Pzst.png)
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: happyhunter1 on Feb 06, 2015, 10:02 AM
this is a clan from battletech which was a from a game company that is now defunt. so i do not think they are going to mind
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: bassplaya on Feb 06, 2015, 12:32 PM
Here's a pic I think is pretty appropriate,  it's from the 22nd polish ammunition supply company. They had adopted an orphan Siberian bear while in Iran and had it enlisted in their company, his duties included moving ammunition for which he never drop a single pack. His name is wojtek (vos-tek) a polish name meaning ' he who enjoys war ' or ' smiling warrior'

(http://i492.photobucket.com/albums/rr281/badassbassplaya/Mobile%20Uploads/Screenshot_2015-02-06-09-13-34.png) (http://s492.photobucket.com/user/badassbassplaya/media/Mobile%20Uploads/Screenshot_2015-02-06-09-13-34.png.html)

If not our emblem then maybe a patch one day lol


Here is a more stylized version

(http://i492.photobucket.com/albums/rr281/badassbassplaya/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0099.jpg) (http://s492.photobucket.com/user/badassbassplaya/media/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0099.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: Serim Merec on Feb 06, 2015, 02:25 PM
That's awesome! You're holding out on us Bass :P That upside down one above you're stylized Wojtek looks pretty sweet, too!
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: Zophar Ptay on Feb 06, 2015, 02:42 PM
HAHAHAH   I used to work with a guy from Poland named Wojtek, but he pronounced it differently.   Maybe it wasn't the same name, or a different regional accent, or maybe he just got tired of telling Americans it didn't rhyme with "voi-shek" [hard to think how to write how he pronounced it]   Great story, bassplaya.  I haven't thought of that clown in years; good times!  The bear you drew lobbing the artillery round looks cool.

happyhunter1 - As much as I love the look of that design for a patch, I'm fairly certain that it would get squashed as part of canon from another franchise.  It wasn't just a gaming clan in the sense of a couple of players playing together, it was a canon faction within the franchise from what I'm seeing.  It actually makes me wary of using "Ghost Bear Clan" or any derivative directly and pushes me more towards something like Sho'Cerar Clan with a bear as out logo/mascot
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: bassplaya on Feb 06, 2015, 10:29 PM
Lol well I've always been a little inept at phonetic pronunciation so don't take my word on that lol but sho cerar sounds pretty good or cerar kursh ( for mountain forest I believe) are my favorites

How about we use the cog idea for the background, it gives that familiar swarzy feel without being too repetitive
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: Zophar Ptay on Feb 06, 2015, 10:30 PM
Cer'Kurshi was the old name for the Washington clan
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: bassplaya on Feb 06, 2015, 10:36 PM
Oh scratch that then

(http://i492.photobucket.com/albums/rr281/badassbassplaya/Mobile%20Uploads/bear.jpg) (http://s492.photobucket.com/user/badassbassplaya/media/Mobile%20Uploads/bear.jpg.html)

Imagine this imposed Over top a cog
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: Cyrika on Feb 08, 2015, 06:18 PM
I'm loving the bear and missile. Maybe a change on the colors but, he's pretty awesome. I went looking for some information on Mandalorian animals, since there is no word in Mando'a for 'animal', and found examples of animals that Mandalorians had fought. Maybe we can use something like that to come up with a closely related word? Darn for unfinished languages!

Animals from Dxun/Onderon: Boma (closes to a bearish), cannoks, drexls, maalraas, skreevs, and zakkegs. Then of course you have your strill, and mythosaur.

However I'm sure that will ruffle some feathers if we have to create a new word just for our clan, and be a whole project unto itself.

So here's a list of some words I was wondering if were appropriate and can be mashed together:

mountain - cerar
warriors - verda
calm - udesla
brigade - ori'tsad
burning - hettyc
forest - kurs
sky - kebii'tra
sunny (lit. star-burned) - tranyc
strength - kot
song - laar
silent - shev'la
up - laam
morning - vaar'tur

Our flag has the sun rising so maybe something like 'Tranyc Vaar'tur'? Or environmentally, with our many mountains, like sunny mountain, 'Tranyc Cerar'. Burning mountain warriors! Hettyc cer'verde!

I know it's all just for fun, but would be neat to have an idea that we can claim to, if it ever happens. *goes back to making her armor*
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: Zophar Ptay on Feb 09, 2015, 12:16 AM
Cyrika - Love the enthusiasm and the ideas.  A few thoughts, and keep in mind this is all my personal opinion:  I don't know if there would be a problem making up our own animal name other than having to explain what it is all the time ;)  I find great irony in calling a BC clan, where it rains for eighteen months of the year the "sunny morning" clan.  That isn't a no, I was laughing when I read it, and it isn't my first choice.  As a side thought, what about the Sunday Morning Clan (http://youtu.be/WQpq5ofcSdg)  [yes that was only a joke]  Officially we are currently part of the Hett'ciri clan, which was derived from "burning mountain".   The idea of paying tribute to their name in some way does have some merit.  One of the suggestions that Sidewalker [Hett'ciri Alor'ad] suggested was essentially "wave/tide mountain" which I like both for paying tribute to the fire mountain and for our coastal location.  It might even start a trend if we go with "fire wave" for when you 'nagan folks spin off your own as "fire tree" or something like that and give the whole area a running theme and tribute to those who went before us and laid the groundwork for us.  If you couldn't tell, I'm a big fan of paying tribute to those who led the way for us.  Not saying we HAVE to go that route, but that's my opinion.

bassplaya - I am liking the bear hauling the artillery shell more and more.  I'm personally a big fan of the purple/blue color scheme on a whole, so I say run with it and see what comes of it.   I am/was planning on blue and purple accent stripes on my kit so I may be a little biased ;)



As always, just my thoughts and we need to get a few more of you together before any of this means anything at all.
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: paradoxdj on Feb 10, 2015, 10:44 PM
Just gonna add a correction here. Hett'ciri drives from burning snow, not burning mountain. I do like the idea of giving a nod to the hett'ciri clan's name. Maybe something like nad'cye (n-ah-d she-ay) meaning Hot [boiling] ocean, from nadala and sho'cye.
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: Serim Merec on Feb 11, 2015, 12:42 AM
Lots of good ideas! Here's another page of contributions for you to discuss :D

(http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/aa342/TheBigReader/B5A41586-4300-4DC5-AD94-B27AE41F7C08_zpsqbdjfs1i.jpg)

Top one is the Paw the Zophar liked. I think I went overboard with the ghostly aura...
Second is the Artillery Bear made more 'logo-y'. I like the looks of Rancor Clan's logo, so I just added the ring.
Bottom one is another idea I had. I just couldn't get the bear head to look like a bear :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: Zophar Ptay on Feb 11, 2015, 01:26 AM
Just gonna add a correction here. Hett'ciri drives from burning snow, not burning mountain.

Bah, who asked you :P
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: happyhunter1 on Feb 11, 2015, 09:10 PM
why is it when i see the words burning snow i think someone has pee in the snow .  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: Sidewalker on Feb 12, 2015, 05:54 PM
Ever been snowboarding when it's -20 and so sunny the snow is like a mirror?  Snow definitely burns!
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: Zophar Ptay on Feb 14, 2015, 12:13 AM
I was bored tonight and messed around with this.  Original kinda reminded me of a T-visor so I messed with it:

(http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z458/zopharptay/Bear%20head%20logo_zpsnmg3pev1.jpg) (http://s1190.photobucket.com/user/zopharptay/media/Bear%20head%20logo_zpsnmg3pev1.jpg.html)

(http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z458/zopharptay/mando%20bear_zpsldltlugm.png) (http://s1190.photobucket.com/user/zopharptay/media/mando%20bear_zpsldltlugm.png.html)
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: paradoxdj on Feb 22, 2015, 03:41 PM
I like the idea but my first thought on that second one was not mando bear. Looks more like a bears butt... maybe keep most of the face intact and just tweak it a bit or add to it?
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: Zophar Ptay on Feb 22, 2015, 03:57 PM
Nah, I like going with the bear hauling the artillery round better... but I spent all that time trying to make that face look how I imagined it and couldn't let it go wasted so i posted it :P   I'm not too crazy about the end result but thought it might give someone a better idea.   I'm no artist.
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: Zophar Ptay on Feb 22, 2015, 11:01 PM
Did a talk at the Vancouver Hack Space about the Mercs last night.   Two new interested gents, hopefully they will get in touch
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: bassplaya on Feb 23, 2015, 12:53 PM
How bout we come up with something like 5-10 finalized versions of the sigil we like then have our selves a vote.  Next question, Are we allowed only one symbol or can we have secondary and a couple badges. And we should probably do the same for our clan name at some point here.

I'm working hard on my kit and getting pretty close to final touches, bucket is coming out great so far only a few more whacks to go

What is hack space, I'm still trying to see what I can do for recruitment
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: Zophar Ptay on Feb 23, 2015, 04:53 PM
One official sigil/symbol but nothing to stop us from doing patch runs with different images if that is what you want.  I think that "dilutes the brand" in that people who see an alternate patch won't be able to look at it and say "that's the BC clan patch!"  but perhaps if we did them as commemorative patches?   Dunno.   What did you have in mind for "badges"?  I'd say we pick one and stick to it for now.    Lets do three sigils to vote on and up to 5 names, and I'll throw a poll together.  I'll make a new thread for entries in a couple days.

Glad to hear the bucket is coming along, I can't wait to see it.    Did you figure out how to smooth out the hammer marks on the dome?    I've been looking into it and i looks like it's just a problem for an old-fashioned grind-and-polish.   We can see about getting grinder belts for my belt sander if you need one, or I can take you down tot he Hack Space and use one of the angle grinders down there one night.


Vancouver Hack Space (http://hackspace.ca/wp/) is basically a membership- based communal workshop.    You pay a monthly membership fee to use the space and whatever tools are there.    Basic wood-/metal-working tools, a CNC mill, manual mill, metal lathe, laser cutter, couple 3d printers, a bunch of soldering stations and a huge library of electronics parts in case you come up a resistor short or whatever.   Anything that can kill you requires a one-time additional training course/fee and not everything is set up yet since we just moved but it's all coming back together.   great place to hang out and meet geeks, get help on anything computer/robotic or "made this myself" kind of thing.   Every Tuesday night is open to the public, check us out some time.
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: bassplaya on Feb 24, 2015, 01:10 PM
Oh ok so one 'official' symbol for the clan, and I totally agree with the diluting issue I was more thinking the option of one time " founding member " patch/badge run. And thank you zophar for being able to clear up most my ideas/ramblings

Ya that's what I figured I'd end up doing, but I think I'm gonna try to keep at least some of the pitting so I might be able to get away with a light sand and polish

Oh wow didn't realize there were groups like that around here I'm so full of ideas but I lack thongs like specialty tools, information, experience, work space, etc. I think I'll at least give it a look see



Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: Zophar Ptay on Feb 24, 2015, 02:17 PM
Oh wow didn't realize there were groups like that around here I'm so full of ideas but I lack thongs like specialty tools, information, experience, work space, etc. I think I'll at least give it a look see

If you want to get to know folks, ask questions and hang out online with the best geeks in MetroVan, join us on the the forums (http://talk.hackspace.ca) or our chat  (http://vanhack.slack.com).   People are always willing to answer questions and help plan projects.   Maybe one of our armor parties after Celebration can be a field trip to the space, I'll show you [whoever wants to come] around and you can see what we have to offer.    Or go down any Tuesday night, it's open house night.


Also, there is MakerLabs (http://www.makerlabs.com/) downtown as well.   They are a nicer facility and they have professional tool maintenance as opposed to ours which is all volunteer and DIY, but they are MUCH more expensive per month and charge per-use/per-minute/etc for using their tools so it gets expensive FAST.
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: Tylek Ren on Apr 29, 2015, 10:48 AM
So I saw some words listed earlier... what do people feel about "Sea to Sky." It is a common phrase/descriptor of our area... so not sure. Can even be the slogan on the bottom of the patch, etc.
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: CamBedore on Apr 29, 2015, 01:34 PM
Zophar mentioned having red be a possible theme in another thread and I personally think of the forrests when I think of BC and BC has famous redwoods that are huge so what about something along the lines of Redwood Rogues the Warriors of the Woods. Just a few ideas I've been kicking around and I think it corresponds to the bear logo nicely seeing as bears are more often in the woods than they are in the ocean or sky. I like the slogan "sea to sky" though.
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: Zophar Ptay on Apr 29, 2015, 01:49 PM
I mentioned Sea to Sky earlier but perhaps it is too specific to the lower mainland.   Not much to do with out vode out in the Okanagan, perhaps?   I could get behind Redwood Rogues, even without translating it, but I think most people assume redwoods are only in California.  I only mentioned the red because as of right now I'm the only BC merc who DOESN'T have red in their kit, just by happenstance.  I wouldn't want it to be a requirement of any sort, one great part of the mercs is the ability to choose a custom paint scheme.
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: Serim Merec on Apr 29, 2015, 02:02 PM
Here's a couple new words to play with: Wasuur = West, Verda = Warrior, Kyramud = Killer/Assassin. There's also the name of our current Clan, Hett'Ciri, that we could draw from to reference them. Hettir = Burn, Cin'ciri = Snow.

I too like the sound of "Sea to Sky", but it is too Lower Mainland to represent all of BC. I'm going to play around with the word "West" for a while...
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: Zophar Ptay on Apr 29, 2015, 02:23 PM
Keep in mind, we wouldn't be the first to stay English.   We have a Red Fist Clan, a Black Guard Clan, etc.   I like the idea of paying homage to Hett'Ciri if that works out
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: bassplaya on Apr 29, 2015, 03:19 PM
Redwood rogues has a Good sound to it. If we are worried about sounding too geographically specific how about something vague like wassur hett( western fire/burn). I like the idea of sea to sky being a motto, sort of encompasses the different ecosystem we have in bc

And for the record my kit is gonna be Orange not red :-P( not that I'm against it being an official colour)
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: Gnar-Gnar on May 07, 2015, 07:36 PM
I haven't read all the way through his thread... but I do dig the redwood rogues!
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: paradoxdj on May 10, 2015, 08:13 PM
I'm personally more partial to the mando'a names but if everyone else is more interested in keeping it in galactic basic then that works too :P I'm playing around with some ideas and I'll post if I can find something interesting.

*EDIT*

So i've been playing around with a few things. Mainly variations on west, as Serim brought up. Also, thought, "brighter sky" might be interesting as a call to the northern lights.

Here's the breakdown of what I've been trying:
English =
(mando'a words [mando'a pronunciation])                         | Variations of the words combined, possible names [name pronunciations].


Brighter Sky =                             
(dralshy'a [drahl-SHEE-ya], kebii'tra [keh-BEE-trah])         | dralshy'keb [drahl-SHEE-kehb], dral'kebii [drahl-keh-BEE], dralshy'tra [drahl-SHEE-trah]

Western Protectors(guardians) =
(wasuur [WAH-soor], cabur [KAH-boor])                           | wasu'bur [WAh-soo-boor], was'abur [WAH-s-AH-boor]

Western Guard =                         
(wasuur [WAH-soor], aran [AH-ran])                                  | was'ran [WAH-s-ran], wasu'ran [WAH-soo-ran], wasu'aran [WAH-soo-AH-ran], was'aran [WAH-s-AH-ran]

Western Home =                           
(wasuur [WAH-soor], yaim [yaym])                                    | was'yai [WAH-s-yay], wasu'aim [WAH-soo-ay-eem], wasu'yaim [WAH-soo-yaym], wasuur'im [WAH-soor-eem]

Strong(powerful) West =             
(dral [draal] or kotyc [koh-TEESH],  wasuur [WAH-soor]) | dral'uur [draal-oor], dra'suur [drah-soor], koty'suur [koh-TEE-soor], koty'ur [koh-TEE-oor]

Western Strength =                     
(wassur [WAH-soor], kot [kohd, koht])                              | was'kot [WAH-s-koht], wasu't [WAH-soo-tee], kot'wa [koht-wah] 
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: Zophar Ptay on May 10, 2015, 10:02 PM
I like Wasu'ran.    What might Bright Night come to?   
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: paradoxdj on May 10, 2015, 10:33 PM
Bright Night =
(dral [draal], ca [kah])                                        | dral'ca [draal-kah], dra'ca [drah-kah], ca'dral [kah-draal]

Bright night sky =
(dral [draal], ca'tra [KAH-tra])                            | dra'catra [drah-KAT-rah], dra'tra [drah-trah]

Bright evening =
(dral [draal], ge'catra [geh-KAT-rah])                 | dral'ge [draal-geh]

Tangential:
Brighter darkness =
(dralshy'a [draal-SHEE-ya], werde [WAIR-day]) | dral'wer [draal-WAIR], dralshy'wer [draal-SHEE-wair], dral'de [d] [draal-day]
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: Tylek Ren on May 10, 2015, 10:45 PM
Dral'wer or Wasu'ran have my vote. :D
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: Serim Merec on May 10, 2015, 11:31 PM
Here here! Wasu'ran Clan sounds awesome! ;D
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: bassplaya on May 11, 2015, 12:30 PM
Clan Wasu'ran home of the wasu'rangers
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: Tylek Ren on May 11, 2015, 03:07 PM
Okay.. I liked Wasu'ran.. but combined with Clan... it starts to sound silly... Can we do do it? The Wasu'ran Clan can. It makes me chuckle....
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: bassplaya on May 11, 2015, 06:19 PM
What about wasur'alite? Roughly, west squad/ team.
 Or krana'wasu western settlement surrounded by water

We really need to come.up with a list so we can properly see our options

How about everyone comes up with two options then we have a vote to being it down to five definite choices
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: Serim Merec on May 11, 2015, 07:01 PM
We wouldn't be the first to have a name that rhymes with "clan". Raquordaan Clan, and Muraan Clan can, too! :P

I'll just put this out there: if I had a vote that carried weight, I would vote for Wasu'ran. It feels right to me.
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: Zophar Ptay on May 11, 2015, 10:22 PM
I think we can opt out of using "clan".  Don't we have The Black Watch?   I'll be home from the Prince George con tonight and can look into it if nobody else does first
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: Serim Merec on May 11, 2015, 10:43 PM
If you go to the Clan/Squad locator there are only two chapters of the Mercs that don't have "Clan" or "Squad in their name: Skirata and Shonare Vhekadla. However, when you go to their respective Forums they are both identified as Clans in their name.
If there are naming rules I don't know of, they're probably somewhere I don't have access to :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: paradoxdj on May 14, 2015, 12:29 AM
I'm not a huge fan of using "aliit" in the clan name, simply because it translates directly to "clan". If we did our clan name would translate from "wasuur'aliit clan" to "western clan clan". Which sounds kinda silly to me.

As for opting out of using 'clan'. I personally like the use in a detachments name. My vote is that we use it, however if the majority votes against then I have no problem with that. I think on the forums the sections will always have the word clan, squard, or area attached to them simply to keep things organized and in proper classification so I don't think we can avoid that.
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: Zophar Ptay on May 15, 2015, 10:05 PM
(http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z458/zopharptay/wasuran_zps71ummkdq.png) (http://s1190.photobucket.com/user/zopharptay/media/wasuran_zps71ummkdq.png.html)

bwahahahahaha
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: Zophar Ptay on May 16, 2015, 04:28 PM
Converted bassplaya's sketch to a vector file and starting to clean it up into something that can be used.  still a lot of cleaning to do but it's good practise.   We're not locked into this by any means, I'm just looking for projects to practise.

(http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z458/zopharptay/bear%20patch_zpsuedrbkgk.png) (http://s1190.photobucket.com/user/zopharptay/media/bear%20patch_zpsuedrbkgk.png.html)
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: Zophar Ptay on May 16, 2015, 05:34 PM
That was kinda fun.  Still tinkering with the forms, but I now have a fully vecrtorized file that can be used for patches, coins, laser cutter, whatever.  I think. Maybe. Possibly.

(http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z458/zopharptay/bear%20patch_zpslpufnatj.png) (http://s1190.photobucket.com/user/zopharptay/media/bear%20patch_zpslpufnatj.png.html)
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: draco.mac on Jun 10, 2015, 01:35 AM
Hey so vancouver is making a clan hopefully Cody and I get approve right away and you'll have two more clan members!!

Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: Serim Merec on Jun 10, 2015, 02:49 AM
Hey man! Good to see you signing up for Official Membership! ;D I don't know if you remember me, but we talked for a little while at Fan Expo Vancouver ;)
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: GardenGeek on Jun 13, 2015, 12:06 PM
I like Wasu'ran! Not sold on the bear holding ammo logo (sorry). Could we try our own rendering of a mythosaur skull but with our own spin on it? Like a combination of bear moose and whale? Maybe a bit of eagle? I can see if I can throw something together later if anyone likes the idea.
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: Zophar Ptay on Jun 13, 2015, 02:10 PM
Throw it together, see what comes of it.  At this point, it's all just playing around and nothing official yet till we get more boots on the ground.
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: Echo9 on Jun 13, 2015, 06:51 PM
Yah I'm not completely sold on the bear either. Are there bears in the star wars universe??
I like Wasu'ran.. has a nice ring to it :)
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: Zophar Ptay on Jun 13, 2015, 06:56 PM
The bear idea evolved from wanting to tie the symbol into native BC culture, which led us to thinking along the lines of Spirit Bear which led to Vojtek, the bear adopted by a Polish artillery unit in WW2 was was said to have been trained to carry artillery shells for them.   We're not set on it, but it was a fun idea.
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: Zophar Ptay on Jun 15, 2015, 05:38 AM
A non-bear patch idea

(http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z458/zopharptay/20150615_023736_zpshd9bql47.jpg)

(http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z458/zopharptay/20150615_025104_zpszznktgaq.jpg)
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: bassplaya on Jun 15, 2015, 01:15 PM
I was thinking of putting a bandolier on the bear to make it more swarzy, the manda-wook ( spirit wookie) lol
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: GardenGeek on Jun 17, 2015, 03:48 AM
Its a cross orca/grizzly/big horn sheep. Im definitely thinking simplified rather than the shading, but its just a quick edit. Thoughts?

(http://i900.photobucket.com/albums/ac207/azura_3/wasuran2.jpg)
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: Echo9 on Jun 17, 2015, 12:32 PM
just playing around:

(http://i970.photobucket.com/albums/ae186/wyndstar2000/bcmandologo1_zpsrsys6pk6.jpg)

totally stole that 'official' logo for bc. and then coloured in some water. This is totally rough but was just playing around. kinda wanted to find an elasmosaurus skeleton to put into the water.. (or killer whales?) but that was more work and effort and stuff. lol.
and i forgot to colour in the outer ring.
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: Zophar Ptay on Jun 17, 2015, 01:15 PM
"playing around" is all we're doing right now since we don't have enough bodies in armor to do anything more.   *hint hint ;) *  Did you draw that skull or mashup images?   hard to tell on my cell but interesting look.

The local 501st is the Outer Rim Garrison and their patch is killer, if anyone wants to come up with an idea to tie them in.  Maybe a living greater kraty dragon on ours (http://www.heroesinc.ca/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/5011.jpg)
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: Tylek Ren on Jun 17, 2015, 05:14 PM
I like the colours on the 501st patch as well as the homage to the Maple Leaf. There's many ways that we can incorporate that I am sure. I will sit down tonight as I like where GardenGeek was going with the skull, and perhaps a more frontal shot, even direct on of an orca's jaws as a skeleton is pretty classy in and of itself.

Great ideas from everyone putting in their talents!

Full orca skeleton for ref:
(http://www.ptmsc.org/boneatlas/images/skeleton_base_labeled.jpg)
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: GardenGeek on Jun 17, 2015, 05:35 PM
Tylek- PM me your email and I can send you the skull PSD. I looked for a while and couldn't find a front shot of an orca skull of any quality. I'm liking the idea of the whole skeleton! The colours I used were just the first ones I picked- no significance.

That's a mashup of images, I can draw, but it would take some serious time for the detail.
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: Zophar Ptay on May 14, 2016, 11:11 PM
Necropost!    I'd like to bring this back to the forefront for people to think over.   I think we are all fairy happy with the name Wasu'ran, which translates roughly to "Western Guard", but we still need a clan logo/sigil.  Get arting, folks!
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: Vorir Gah'Kurs on May 16, 2016, 01:51 PM
Let's try my hand later this evening!
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: Vorir Gah'Kurs on May 18, 2016, 02:10 PM
Use how you will!

(http://i998.photobucket.com/albums/af109/Roo_Eckhardt/20160518_140913_zpsr9lyful9.jpg) (http://s998.photobucket.com/user/Roo_Eckhardt/media/20160518_140913_zpsr9lyful9.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: bassplaya on May 19, 2016, 04:16 PM
Wait didn't you already choose the clan logo? And wasu'ran sounds pretty good
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: Serim Merec on May 19, 2016, 04:35 PM
Do you mean the Tauntaun one? That was the regional logo for all of Canada. We seem settled on Wasu'ran, but we are still trying to figure out a logo for BC.

Thanks for stopping by with some suggestions, Vorir! Personally, I like the one on the left more. I've always been partial to the diamond shape for logos and patches :)
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: Tylek Ren on May 19, 2016, 04:36 PM
Wait didn't you already choose the clan logo? And wasu'ran sounds pretty good

I believe the last logo chosen was the regional one. Clan name and logo were still in discussion, however, I do think that the name was pretty much decided already through consensus.
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: Zophar Ptay on May 19, 2016, 06:17 PM
What they said ^^
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: Gnar-Gnar on May 19, 2016, 08:35 PM
What he said about them saying ^^
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: GardenGeek on May 20, 2016, 02:39 AM
Ditto.
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: Vorir Gah'Kurs on May 20, 2016, 09:20 AM
So we roll with a diamond shape, include some mountains. What about a Mando rappelling down a cliff face? Sunlit colours, black mando. Very distinguishable.
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: Gnar-Gnar on May 20, 2016, 03:03 PM
Definitely a fan of the diamond shape, distinctively mando, and looks great on cloth banners!
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: bassplaya on May 24, 2016, 03:12 PM
(http://i492.photobucket.com/albums/rr281/badassbassplaya/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0052.jpg) (http://s492.photobucket.com/user/badassbassplaya/media/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0052.jpg.html)

May as well considering I posted this in the wrong vote lol
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: paradoxdj on May 28, 2016, 03:53 AM
That's pretty awesome Bassplaya! I like it.
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: GardenGeek on May 28, 2016, 05:34 PM
Another thought :)

(http://i900.photobucket.com/albums/ac207/azura_3/107E0E04-2349-4408-901D-6D67D59C8ADB.jpg)
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: Zophar Ptay on May 28, 2016, 06:14 PM
Bassplaya - I love Voitek, but I think GardenGeek just trumped you.    I am in love with that one, GG
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: Serim Merec on May 28, 2016, 10:35 PM
We're definitely getting much closer! I'm not totally sold on the mountains in there, I really like the idea, but it feels like it could be bettered still... Do you think it's possible to get an image with mountains on the right and a setting sun/starburst on the left over an open sea? Kinda specific, but I think that would have the West Coast symbolism down that way. Just spit balling, of course :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: GardenGeek on May 28, 2016, 11:14 PM
I think we could do ocean/mountains/setting sun rather than splitting it in half. If it was split, then doing any split patches would lose the impact of half of the scenery in it.  We also have to think that the logo is mostly going to be seen on a 4" patch- and the higher impact the better.  I'm going to play with it a bit tonight :)
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: Serim Merec on May 28, 2016, 11:18 PM
Sorry, guess I didn't explain myself well enough, but what you said was pretty much what I meant :)
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: GardenGeek on May 29, 2016, 12:23 PM
Thoughts?

(http://i900.photobucket.com/albums/ac207/azura_3/0564341A-42A9-4567-8B19-DDB8A1A5569F.jpg)
Title: Re: Clan Plan for the Future
Post by: Vorir Gah'Kurs on May 30, 2016, 12:18 PM
GG! That's pretty amazing art work you did there! It's certainly nice!