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Mandalorian Armor => Armor Construction => Topic started by: Simmy_82 on Jul 10, 2014, 04:06 PM

Title: WIP - Simmy Assassin Mando Build
Post by: Simmy_82 on Jul 10, 2014, 04:06 PM
Hey all.

Still in the planning stages of my mando. Some of you may have seem my work on a gauntlet and a Hasbro blaster.


With the gauntlet I'm testing my skills at pepakura before deciding to go down that route fully.


With the blaster I was just testing my painting/weathering skills. I plan to only display this on at present.


As stated I'm in the planning stages at present. Below are some colour schemes I'm considering.


All thoughts welcome.

Combat green and black has always been my original thought.

(http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae77/Simmy_82/Mandalorian%20Armour/Mando%202_zpserqvtv7a.jpg)

Then toyed with black and Orange.

(http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae77/Simmy_82/Mandalorian%20Armour/Mando%201_zpsrptmnltf.jpg)

Then white. This is my current front runner. 

(http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae77/Simmy_82/Mandalorian%20Armour/Mando%203_zpsydiwqbtm.jpg)

EDIT: Poll added

Option 1: Rebel Pilot
(http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae77/Simmy_82/Mandalorian%20Armour/MandoMaker3_zps4a23cf5d.png)

Option 2: Black and Orange
(http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae77/Simmy_82/Mandalorian%20Armour/MandoMaker6_zps12d0153c-1.png)

Option 3: White and Blue
(http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae77/Simmy_82/Mandalorian%20Armour/MandoMaker7_zps8669c77f.png)

Option 4: Combat Green
(http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae77/Simmy_82/Mandalorian%20Armour/MandoMaker8_zpsf03a7e27.png)

Option 5: Grey and Red
(http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae77/Simmy_82/Mandalorian%20Armour/MandoMaker10_zpsc7286fa8.png)



Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build
Post by: Simmy_82 on Jul 19, 2014, 01:16 PM
Apologies for double posting, but I found out there was a mando maker app so I made a design in there. Only thing I would add is the stripes on the chest plate I think.

(http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae77/Simmy_82/MandoMaker1_zpse95cc146.png)

Im also just cutting my templates. Will be posting pics to ask advice on size. Once I have done that im gonna make a mannequin. Being 6'1 and about 130lbs I need to get it right ha ha.
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build
Post by: Avidem on Jul 20, 2014, 01:44 AM
The white is my favorite. Have you looked into doing a duct tape form?
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build
Post by: Ashen Kelborn on Jul 20, 2014, 02:38 AM
Personally I like the green, its different and you see allot of white, black and orange kits these days.
though a tweaking of design to make it pop more may be an idea
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build
Post by: Ralin Voth on Jul 20, 2014, 02:41 AM
Looking good so far. The only thing I would suggest is a contrasting color for the vest so the plates stand out on it, otherwise they kind of get lost in there. A light grey would work nicely, just enough to let the plates stand out while keeping close to the original all white idea.
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build
Post by: Simmy_82 on Jul 20, 2014, 03:10 AM
Thanks.

Yeah having looked into it there are a few whites out there. Tho not seen many here on the UK.

That's not a bad idea with making the plates a light grey. But may just get an off white flak vest?

I've made two bits of pep armour so far. What I might do is make three shoulder pads and test the three colour schemes out. The white would have possibly Orange and Grey stripes.

Also been looking down the sintra/foamex route. We have a few sign suppliers in my town so emailing them to see of they have any waste offcuts.

I'll make the other two colour schemes using mando maker too. Standby.

Avidem - Yeah looked into that. Bought a t-shirt yesterday. Just need to convince the wife to help me lol.
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build
Post by: Avidem on Jul 20, 2014, 03:26 AM
Good luck with that. My financee wouldn't help me so I had to get my cousin to do it.
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build
Post by: Simmy_82 on Jul 20, 2014, 04:17 AM
Yeah thanks for that Avidem. She seems keen at the moment...

here are the other two designs in the mando maker app.

(http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae77/Simmy_82/Mandalorian%20Armour/MandoMaker2_zpsd116d072.png)  (http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae77/Simmy_82/Mandalorian%20Armour/MandoMaker3_zps4a23cf5d.png)
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build
Post by: Avidem on Jul 20, 2014, 04:21 AM
I wouldn't go so dark with the green on a black flight suit. Might want a medium green. That one scheme is smexy.
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build
Post by: Simmy_82 on Jul 20, 2014, 04:36 AM
Maybe like an olive green? Then so the plates etc as a darker forest green? I'm just worried that the greens won't colour match to well.

Just heading out. Will have a go on mando maker again when I get home.
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build
Post by: Avidem on Jul 20, 2014, 04:55 AM
These are some of the greens I'm using
(http://i1064.photobucket.com/albums/u377/Joshua_Nicholson87/mando%20kit/IMAG00621.jpg) (http://s1064.photobucket.com/user/Joshua_Nicholson87/media/mando%20kit/IMAG00621.jpg.html)

My flight suit is navy blue with a olive flak vest, green girth, khaki ammo belt, o.d. green pouches, and sage green gloves.

(http://i1064.photobucket.com/albums/u377/Joshua_Nicholson87/mando%20kit/IMAG0054_BURST0011.jpg) (http://s1064.photobucket.com/user/Joshua_Nicholson87/media/mando%20kit/IMAG0054_BURST0011.jpg.html)

This is a test for my thigh plates. I'm actually going to use legacy style thighs instead.

(http://i1064.photobucket.com/albums/u377/Joshua_Nicholson87/mando%20kit/IMAG00791.jpg) (http://s1064.photobucket.com/user/Joshua_Nicholson87/media/mando%20kit/IMAG00791.jpg.html)
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build
Post by: Ashen Kelborn on Jul 20, 2014, 06:59 AM
Yeah having looked into it there are a few whites out there. Tho not seen many here on the UK.

Might want to look at DJ Sinny's kit then

Progress Update: Helmet has had a dark wash to bring out the detail and make it a bit grubby...

(https://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/t1.0-9/10390486_10152971963788569_2268466223543933758_n.jpg)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/t1.0-9/10262003_10152971963858569_7274946303364134754_n.jpg)
(https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t1.0-9/10262243_10152971963913569_5512697080342193564_n.jpg)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/t1.0-9/10422236_10152971963983569_101972317120052381_n.jpg)
(https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t1.0-9/10300297_10152971964043569_5486927236608525830_n.jpg)

Still liking the greens more BTW, Avidem is right though vary the green, you don't want it too dark or the weathering won't show through well
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build
Post by: Simmy_82 on Jul 20, 2014, 08:20 AM
Seeing that white and Orange helmet hasn't helped lol.

Yeah I'm thinking combat greens. That was always my original colour scheme. But once I coloured the white up. I had second thoughts.
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build
Post by: Carid Vhett on Jul 20, 2014, 12:31 PM
Like the green as well.
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build
Post by: Vanlande Ne'trasenaar on Jul 20, 2014, 05:30 PM
The white/black/orange scheme hearkens back to the rebel pilots in my opinion. Not saying that doesn't look good though, I kinda dig it. That being said, it's a good combo to go with. to reiterate, if you go with white, change the flight suit and vest colors for contrast. Rather than go with grey plates, I would say go with off-white or grey for the soft parts. It has been said already, but contrast is the key to making a kit pop!
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build
Post by: Simmy_82 on Jul 21, 2014, 04:04 AM
Thanks for that.

Yeah, thinking using the off white similar to boba fetts flak jacket. Not sure how I'll get the flight suit that colour. It's so tough deciding lol

I'll do a few more concepts tonight. Get your thoughts. I want to get it right.
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build
Post by: Avidem on Jul 21, 2014, 08:35 AM
Best bet with the flight suit I'd to buy a pair of dickies long sleeve white coveralls and dye them. Just make sure they are 100% cotton. Synthetic fibers are a pain in the shebs.
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build
Post by: Simmy_82 on Jul 21, 2014, 08:40 AM
Again thanks for the advice. I'll post pics later of either concepts for approval ;)

Ok here goes. A few more concepts and my first sizing plates for approval please guys.
 
(http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae77/Simmy_82/Mandalorian%20Armour/MandoMaker4_zpsa48b3758.png)  (http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae77/Simmy_82/Mandalorian%20Armour/MandoMaker5_zps92c65216.png)  (http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae77/Simmy_82/Mandalorian%20Armour/MandoMaker6_zps12d0153c-1.png)

(http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae77/Simmy_82/Mandalorian%20Armour/IMAG1295_zpsmvgh2lx7.jpg)  (http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae77/Simmy_82/Mandalorian%20Armour/IMAG1297_zpsh7idfepj.jpg)
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build
Post by: Ashen Kelborn on Jul 21, 2014, 04:47 PM
Its the classic 1/2 inch off the sides, somehow its the same for most  :-\

Personal choice is the green, but needs a second and third color to break it up more, cos right now looks very plain, overwhelming black and while like the other 2 are hard to look weathered without a feux primer level to bring it off the metal .

but as I said, personal choice
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build
Post by: Tor'dola Magnus on Jul 21, 2014, 05:02 PM
What Kelborn said.  Shrink the collar to about 85% of it's current size.

I say green... not that I'm biased.
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build
Post by: Simmy_82 on Jul 21, 2014, 05:46 PM
How about of I made the flight suit olive green, Brown vest, forest green plates?

I am swaying more towards black now tho ha ha. What's Feux primer?

Will take 1/2in off the sides tomorrow. Also I'd probably add stripes and decals of some sort to the plates too.
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build
Post by: Briks on Jul 21, 2014, 05:56 PM
What Kelborn said.  Shrink the collar to about 85% of it's current size.

I say green... not that I'm biased.

I say green too, I'm probably biased.
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build
Post by: Ashen Kelborn on Jul 21, 2014, 05:57 PM

I am swaying more towards black now tho ha ha. What's Feux primer?


Sorry, spelling mistake: Faux primer
Faux primer is a false primer layer on the silver metal and under your main base color to differentiate the 2 when close match.
EG: primer(to make paint stick), silver (to make look like metal), Faux  primer (white- as metal would be primed before paint), red (base paint color), Details color- black and Green (for lack of other choice)

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3427/3790287491_931be2177b.jpg)
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build
Post by: Simmy_82 on Jul 21, 2014, 06:03 PM
Ah ok. That kind of layered weathering was what I was planning to do anyhow. Thanks.

It's funny, all you guys are saying green, but friends are all saying black and Orange...
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build
Post by: Ashen Kelborn on Jul 21, 2014, 06:18 PM
Ah ok. That kind of layered weathering was what I was planning to do anyhow. Thanks.

It's funny, all you guys are saying green, but friends are all saying black and Orange...

your friends have unlikely done layer painting.
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build
Post by: Simmy_82 on Jul 22, 2014, 03:13 AM
Ok. Gonna go down the green route. I'm gonna tweak the design when I get home tonight. Might use a ghillie net as my cape, similar to below. Will change the flight suit to olive green. Brown vest, forest green plates and then see how that looks.

(http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae77/Simmy_82/Mandalorian%20Armour/czech_camo_netting_zpsllrn102l.jpg)
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build
Post by: Ashen Kelborn on Jul 22, 2014, 04:51 AM
Ok. Gonna go down the green route. I'm gonna tweak the design when I get home tonight. Might use a ghillie net as my cape, similar to below. Will change the flight suit to olive green. Brown vest, forest green plates and then see how that looks.

(http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae77/Simmy_82/Mandalorian%20Armour/czech_camo_netting_zpsllrn102l.jpg)

Cape...... as in side cape or full back cape?
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build
Post by: Simmy_82 on Jul 22, 2014, 04:56 AM
Either or , I'm open to suggestions on that. I'd be doing a back plate either way.

Also toying with an arctic theme, some one suggested on my IG account.
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build
Post by: Ashen Kelborn on Jul 22, 2014, 04:59 AM
Either or , I'm open to suggestions on that. I'd be doing a back plate either way.

If your doing a back plate, have a side/ half cape, more Boba Fett and doesn't cover paintwork you'll be putting time and effort into for the back plate ;) 
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build
Post by: Simmy_82 on Jul 22, 2014, 05:01 AM
That's what I was thinking. Camp netting suitable/approved? Or is it to earthly?
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build
Post by: Ashen Kelborn on Jul 22, 2014, 05:09 AM
That's what I was thinking. Camp netting suitable/approved? Or is it to earthly?


As far as I'm aware its fine, not see anything that says generic camo net can't be used, only camo patterns used currently

Quote
7.No "modern" or "common" off the shelf camo patterns may be used.  Camo patterns allowed must be uncommon, vintage, or in-universe and will be highly scrutinized during the application process.  Officially barred "off the shelf" camo patterns:  Woodland, Tiger Stripe, 3 Color Desert, MARPAT, Real Tree, Mossy Oak, ACU, Urban, 6 Color Desert, Swiss Alpineflague, and MultiCam
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build
Post by: Simmy_82 on Jul 22, 2014, 05:38 AM
Cheers for that. Knew about the camo. Just wasn't sure about the netting. Will do two more concepts tonight and get opinions.
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build
Post by: Carid Vhett on Jul 22, 2014, 06:51 AM
Netting can look too earthy. So to fix that add some fax leaves or something and maybe spray some brown paint onto it as well, just a few tweaks to remove the earthyness.
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build
Post by: Kris Jasra on Jul 23, 2014, 06:06 AM
Obligatory post so I get updates from your thread ;)

Also, an utterly belated reply to the early comment of no white kits in the UK. Hal Jasra is Arctic Sniper and Jaxx Jasra is mainly white with black and purple highlights, and I think Tal Skirata is heading for white and orange. :P On the other hand I don't think there are any lighter greens, got a couple using darker greens, but none in the lighter spectrum.

Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build
Post by: Simmy_82 on Jul 23, 2014, 06:11 AM
Hmmm. I'm think forest or olive green. Thanks for the feedback. Hope to het time tonight for more concepts.
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build
Post by: Ashen Kelborn on Jul 23, 2014, 06:42 AM
Obligatory post so I get updates from your thread ;)

Also, an utterly belated reply to the early comment of no white kits in the UK. Hal Jasra is Arctic Sniper and Jaxx Jasra is mainly white with black and purple highlights, and I think Tal Skirata is heading for white and orange. :P On the other hand I don't think there are any lighter greens, got a couple using darker greens, but none in the lighter spectrum.

Oh I'm sorry, shall I reitterate, there are no official members with main white and a sheb load of up and coming.

Gren looked better anyway imo ;D
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build
Post by: Simmy_82 on Jul 23, 2014, 07:30 AM
Have no fear. Working on green and a white concept ;) May even combine both...

Its the classic 1/2 inch off the sides, somehow its the same for most  :-\

Can I assume it's 1/2 in of all plates? Belly and shoulder/neck??
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build
Post by: Kris Jasra on Jul 24, 2014, 06:45 AM
To be entirely honest with you, I would take the collar template, cut it in half and take the inch from the middle. Take it from the edges and you'll end up with these tiny thin shoulder bits.

You'll also want to slim down the rest of the plates to match the collar. Again, don't be afraid to take off the inside and the outside so that you don't end up with extra thin prongs on the outside.
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build
Post by: Simmy_82 on Jul 24, 2014, 07:14 AM
Ok thanks Kris.

EDIT: Here are three further designs for comments.

(http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae77/Simmy_82/Mandalorian%20Armour/MandoMaker7_zps8669c77f.png)  (http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae77/Simmy_82/Mandalorian%20Armour/MandoMaker9_zps792c939e.png)  (http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae77/Simmy_82/Mandalorian%20Armour/MandoMaker8_zpsf03a7e27.png)
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build
Post by: Kris Jasra on Jul 24, 2014, 04:28 PM
That green speaks to me. But I may be biased being silver, black and green :P
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build
Post by: Simmy_82 on Jul 25, 2014, 04:24 PM
Hmmm, 10th and final concept. I must decide or I could be at this forever.

Torn between this new one, and the White Concept and Green concept in the previous post. Whittled it down to those 3.

(http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae77/Simmy_82/Mandalorian%20Armour/MandoMaker10_zpsc7286fa8.png)
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build
Post by: Avidem on Jul 25, 2014, 05:35 PM
I like the white and green.
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build
Post by: Ashen Kelborn on Jul 25, 2014, 06:08 PM
I like the new one, but I'm grey bias  ;D
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build
Post by: Vanlande Ne'trasenaar on Jul 25, 2014, 11:03 PM
I still like the orange. You just don't see it often and it really feels very "rebel pilot".
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build
Post by: Simmy_82 on Jul 26, 2014, 01:44 AM
I like the white and green.

I like both too.

I like the new one, but I'm grey bias  ;D

I saw a concept like this on IG that's want inspired me.

ly feels very "rebel pilot".

Ah i though that was discounted because it was to "rebel pilot".

Is there somewhere I can set up a poll??
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build
Post by: Jorad Werde on Jul 26, 2014, 02:49 AM


Is there somewhere I can set up a poll??

You can set up a poll at the top of the thread.  Look at the right of the screen, above the thread boxes there are a few rectangular buttons with things like "Add Bookmark" or "Add Poll" ect.  Click the add poll button and fill out what it asks for.  Then let er rip.
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build
Post by: Simmy_82 on Jul 26, 2014, 03:00 AM
Knew how to do it, used to be and admin on a forum. Just wasn't sure if I was allowed to in this thread or if I had to create a new thread.

EDIT: Poll added

Option 1: Rebel Pilot
(http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae77/Simmy_82/Mandalorian%20Armour/MandoMaker3_zps4a23cf5d.png)

Option 2: Black and Orange
(http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae77/Simmy_82/Mandalorian%20Armour/MandoMaker6_zps12d0153c-1.png)

Option 3: White and Blue
(http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae77/Simmy_82/Mandalorian%20Armour/MandoMaker7_zps8669c77f.png)

Option 4: Combat Green
(http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae77/Simmy_82/Mandalorian%20Armour/MandoMaker8_zpsf03a7e27.png)

Option 5: Grey and Red
(http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae77/Simmy_82/Mandalorian%20Armour/MandoMaker10_zpsc7286fa8.png)

EDIT 2: First attempt at battle damage. This is a false primer layer so far. Got main colour and detail colour to add. This is just a test plate I am working on not a final build.

(http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae77/Simmy_82/Mandalorian%20Armour/IMAG1334_zpsujrw8ubd.jpg)
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build (Poll open)
Post by: Simmy_82 on Jul 28, 2014, 07:36 AM
Just bumping this to get more votes if possible.

Also after opinions on the battle damaged plate. This is a test plate so testing weathering techniques. So all damage may not be consistent
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build (Poll open)
Post by: Avidem on Jul 28, 2014, 04:59 PM
Damage looks good to me.
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build (Poll open)
Post by: Tor'dola Magnus on Jul 29, 2014, 01:23 PM
That damage is really well done,  it's no too much, and it doesn't look like you spend all day on the FOB.
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build (Poll open)
Post by: Simmy_82 on Jul 29, 2014, 03:18 PM
Thanks Vode.  Here is the final bit of painting.

Sprayed black over the false primer layer. Added a detail stripe (this needs practice, paint ran under the masking tape). Just need to weather it a little with some acrylic paint. May add a grey detail stripe along side the yellow (only thin) for practice. Overall fairly chuffed. As they say little is more on the damage front.

(http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae77/Simmy_82/Mandalorian%20Armour/IMAG1343_zpsmvzzi0kp.jpg)

(http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae77/Simmy_82/Mandalorian%20Armour/IMAG1344_zpshrtny9a8.jpg)

Also thanks for the additional votes. It's currently tied between two of them.

Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build (Poll open)
Post by: Jorad Werde on Jul 29, 2014, 03:22 PM
For the detail stripe right before you put the paint on, run your finger along the edge of the tape, pressing it down flat (some painters tape will start to come up at the edges). 
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build (Poll open)
Post by: Simmy_82 on Jul 29, 2014, 03:34 PM
Thanks. Mental note added. It's cheap tape too, so doesn't stick too well.
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build (Poll open)
Post by: Kris Jasra on Jul 29, 2014, 04:30 PM
Weathering looks good so far. I'd suggest taking some sandpaper of varying grades to it. Since you're using a test plate, you can really go nuts and work out what will give light scuffs, what might have been a heavy fall and what's too much cos you're back to plastic :P
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build (Poll open)
Post by: Simmy_82 on Jul 29, 2014, 04:50 PM
Thanks Vod.

Would I do the scuffs in one scrape of the paper? Or repeatedly in the same place?

Hmmm voting now tied between three...
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build (Poll open)
Post by: Kris Jasra on Jul 29, 2014, 06:57 PM
Think of it as a big walk through a hostile environment. First, you have to go through some bushes, they'll be light, barely there scratches, likely quite small, possibly a few together as many branches and leaves caught you. Although one bush has thorns, so they'll be a little heavier, so use a longer stroke of the paper. And since bushes grow every direction, the scratches wont really have much of a direction to them, unless its on your gauntlets where you've been brushing them aside.

Then you have to squirm under a fence. There are loose stones and gravel there, they'll catch the paint too,  heavier than the greenery, and slightly more uniform, but still, rocks shift so they'll never be all in one exact direction, especially where you had to shimmy sideways to free your rifle stock when it got caught. Again, variety here, some tiny scuffs, just press down with one finger on the paper, others use the palm of the hand to hold the paper to get more width.

Seems somebody saw you coming, you ducked most of the blast though and it was just a few tiny bits of shrapnel that bounced off your armour, was still pretty sharp though, so deep scuffing in random directions. And then more fence, had to cut a hole in this one, pretty sharp edges, try using something like a key to get very thin scratches. I find faster works best with this as making a slow scratch will be rather wobbly.

And don't forget the dust storm which blew up as you ran back to your ship, that'd be very fine grained possibly even a slight swirling as the wind bows the grains about.

And then remember as you move and bend the plates will likely catch on each other, so they may get more wear round the edges. Also things like shins, knees, hand plates and sticky out shoulder bells will likely be a lot more scuffed and dirty than chest plates. While the chest plates would likely have more blaster marks than your shins unless your attackers have been very bad shots.

Don't be afraid to use other things either. I usually take several different sizes of keys, the small hand sized pick that's in the house, the end of a run out pen, wiring if you have any heavier cables - I've got a nice copper one with a scratchy end, various sandpapers, scouring pads... I could probably find more things, but that's just what I could list of the top of my head.

(And for anybody who reads this and is using metal armour - I have a few dents from a 12th century style sword - see, totally random things.)
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build (Poll open)
Post by: ConDar Ward on Jul 29, 2014, 07:09 PM
Voted for White and Blue .....   ;D

But I like the Gray and Red too ...  ;)
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build (Poll open)
Post by: Mavik on Jul 29, 2014, 07:28 PM
ConDar I feel like you may have a bit of a bias here. I voted for the white and blue as well but still. :D
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build (Poll open)
Post by: ConDar Ward on Jul 29, 2014, 08:42 PM
ConDar I feel like you may have a bit of a bias here. I voted for the white and blue as well but still. :D

They are Great Colors ....   ;D
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build (Poll open)
Post by: Simmy_82 on Jul 30, 2014, 01:56 AM
Thanks got the tips Kris. I'll have a play around with it tonight.

Thanks for the additional votes. Man its changed loads overnight! Going to keep the poll open til I find a Foamex source.

EDIT: Grey detail stripe added. Looking better. Do some more light scratch weathering tomorrow. Then dirt weathing over the weekend.

(http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae77/Simmy_82/Mandalorian%20Armour/IMAG1349_zpsauvearlt.jpg)
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build (Poll open)
Post by: Vanlande Ne'trasenaar on Aug 02, 2014, 09:32 AM
Kris that was wonderful weathering advice!

Simmy the weathering and paint apps are coming along really well!
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build (Poll open)
Post by: Simmy_82 on Aug 02, 2014, 09:52 AM
Thanks!

Couple of updates, some muddying up applied on the plate, added some scrapes and scratches etc. Looks well. Also below is a sizing image. Cut 1/2" off and tested. Thoughts please.

(http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae77/Simmy_82/Mandalorian%20Armour/IMAG1351_zps2rnrf0zs.jpg)

(http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae77/Simmy_82/Mandalorian%20Armour/IMAG1352_zpsz3eotbwj.jpg)

(http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae77/Simmy_82/Mandalorian%20Armour/IMAG1353_zpsifxvf3sc.jpg)

(http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae77/Simmy_82/Mandalorian%20Armour/IMAG1354_zpsdudqmepn.jpg)

(http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae77/Simmy_82/Mandalorian%20Armour/IMAG1355_zpsfddxibmv.jpg)

And the sizing:

(http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae77/Simmy_82/Mandalorian%20Armour/IMAG1350_zpsvr3qnorf.jpg)

Also scores are tied. Still keeping poll open. At least til i find a foamex supplier.
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build (Poll open)
Post by: Vanlande Ne'trasenaar on Aug 02, 2014, 10:12 AM
You'll want to move all of them up just a bit but it looks like the sizing is good.
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build (Poll open)
Post by: Simmy_82 on Aug 02, 2014, 10:23 AM
Thanks. Thought they were low. Think t-shirt sunk a little after I'd taped them on.
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build (Poll open)
Post by: Kris Jasra on Aug 02, 2014, 06:04 PM
I'd actually say the collars a tiny bit too wide. It will work as it is, as Vanlande said, however I'd take half an inch from the centre of the collar so it's closer to your neck on both sides and angle the top of the chest plates inwards to match it. It's more of a personal preference that I'd rather protect close to my neck than my shoulder :P
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build (Poll open)
Post by: Vanlande Ne'trasenaar on Aug 02, 2014, 09:08 PM
Kris has a good point! I'd say give it a shot on the template. Easier to do on paper than the actual plate.
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build (Poll open)
Post by: Simmy_82 on Aug 03, 2014, 02:29 AM
Thanks I'll do that. If taking another 1/2" on the neck do I need to do the same again on the plates?
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build (Poll open)
Post by: Ashen Kelborn on Aug 03, 2014, 03:04 AM
Thanks I'll do that. If taking another 1/2" on the neck do I need to do the same again on the plates?

Just the middle of the collar m8
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build (Poll open)
Post by: TK_Trooper 464 on Aug 03, 2014, 11:56 AM
I think the combat green looks pretty sweet and I need some help making my first set of armor if you have any tips email me at bckillpack@gmail.com. Thanks!
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build (Poll open)
Post by: Kris Jasra on Aug 03, 2014, 12:55 PM
I'd fold the collar in half, then measure say a cm from the fold line and cut both sides at that mark. I'd then use some ever helpful tape to rejoin the collar plate into one.
The collar will then be a little thinner than the chest plates. Lay them out and match them up and trim the chest plates to match the collar. I'd just trim the top section, from the collar to the sticky out bit at the arm pit. Sort of taking a long triangle off it rather than taking that amount off all the way down, as the width is fine at the bottom.
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build (Poll open)
Post by: Simmy_82 on Aug 03, 2014, 01:54 PM
I think the combat green looks pretty sweet and I need some help making my first set of armor if you have any tips email me at bckillpack@gmail.com. Thanks!

It's my first build too. It'd be like the blind leading the blind. I'll put tips in here if you keep looking back.
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build (Poll open)
Post by: Ashen Kelborn on Aug 04, 2014, 02:39 AM
I think the combat green looks pretty sweet and I need some help making my first set of armor if you have any tips email me at bckillpack@gmail.com. Thanks!
It's my first build too. It'd be like the blind leading the blind. I'll put tips in here if you keep looking back.

Pretty sure the whole point of WIPS is to show what your doing and learning from the advice of those that have passed before you, TK this is for you too, if you have a wip then link us and we'll see how we can help
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build (Poll open)
Post by: ConDar Ward on Aug 04, 2014, 08:03 AM
Also Simmy , you Can Custom cut your plates ... ie . My plates are Between Med and LG .   ;)
 


Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build (Poll open)
Post by: Jak`Rebo on Aug 04, 2014, 02:31 PM
^This. My plates didn't even come from a template. I just kinda drew what I thought looked good and followed the general lines of the dozens of armor sets I looked at.
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build (Poll open)
Post by: Simmy_82 on Aug 07, 2014, 12:57 PM
Thanks Vode, I'll have a play with it at the weekend and get it all lined up nice.
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build (Poll closed)
Post by: Simmy_82 on Oct 01, 2014, 04:15 PM
Just an update. I've closed the poll. Happy with the winner, it's one if my favs. Made enquiries with Saz about the helmet. Found a light grey flight suit. Found a foamex supplier. All moving along nicely. Just need funds and time ha ha.

Also used the name generator, didn't show any I liked. So mixed and matched. He will now be known as Vash Noth.

Thanks all that voted.
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build (Poll closed)
Post by: Simmy_82 on Oct 11, 2014, 10:15 AM
Helmet design v1.0. Any thoughts? Should I change anything specific?

http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae77/Simmy_82/Mandalorian%20Armour/MandoHelmet_zps31f853ff.png
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build (Poll closed)
Post by: Ashen Kelborn on Oct 11, 2014, 10:38 AM
Helmet design v1.0. Any thoughts? Should I change anything specific?

(http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae77/Simmy_82/Mandalorian%20Armour/MandoHelmet_zps31f853ff.png)

As a base I think it looks fine, but needs more design added, its a little plain
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build (Poll closed)
Post by: Simmy_82 on Oct 11, 2014, 12:02 PM
Yeah, think I've done colours the wrong way round. It'll be battle damaged of course, possibly kill stripes too.
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build (Poll closed)
Post by: Ashen Kelborn on Oct 11, 2014, 12:24 PM
Yeah, think I've done colours the wrong way round. It'll be battle damaged of course, possibly kill stripes too.

Grey main, with red and black suporting would look better, kill stripes will look even better.
battle damage and weathering is mandatory imo  :P
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build (Poll closed)
Post by: Simmy_82 on Oct 11, 2014, 12:44 PM
I'll be honest. I intended it to be grey, with black and red. Why I've done black with grey??? God knows. Kill stripes deffo and battle damage, as you say mandatory.
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build (Poll closed)
Post by: Simmy_82 on Nov 08, 2014, 01:29 PM
Revised helmet colour scheme. Just waiting on arrival of the Saz helmet...

(http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae77/Simmy_82/Mandalorian%20Armour/MandoHelmet2_zps42f2480a.png)
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build (Poll closed)
Post by: Simmy_82 on Dec 08, 2014, 04:05 AM
Can you build knife sheaves into your gauntlets?
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build (Poll closed)
Post by: Dun'merkin on Dec 08, 2014, 04:41 AM
Can you build knife sheaves into your gauntlets?

I don't see why not.

Bo katan has a knife in her gauntlet and that's canon.
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build (Poll closed)
Post by: Carid Vhett on Dec 08, 2014, 04:46 AM
Can you build knife sheaves into your gauntlets?

Yes. Legends example Kal Skirata.
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build (Poll closed)
Post by: Simmy_82 on Dec 09, 2014, 03:27 AM
Thanks for the info. Thinking of building one into my left gauntlet.
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build (Poll closed)
Post by: Simmy_82 on Dec 17, 2014, 02:38 PM
Is this enough of a curve on the belly plate?

(http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae77/Simmy_82/Mandalorian%20Armour/IMAG1731_zpslljuxq8w.jpg)
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build (Poll closed)
Post by: Kris Jasra on Dec 17, 2014, 04:14 PM
Is this enough of a curve on the belly plate?

That's a beautifully even curve. However I have no idea if it fits the curve of you. Selfie your belly with plate and we shall see :P
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build (Poll closed)
Post by: Simmy_82 on Dec 17, 2014, 05:04 PM
Amazing what a cardboard tube can do.

I'll do a above shot in the morning and post it. This was a test with 3mm foamex to see if it held shape.

EDIT: Pic below if belly plate.

(http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae77/Simmy_82/Mandalorian%20Armour/IMAG1740_zpsldqtm1lq.jpg)
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build (Poll closed)
Post by: Kris Jasra on Dec 22, 2014, 08:48 AM
Might just need a tiny bit more bend on those outer edges, but I'd say that's a pretty successful test overall :D
And lol, I tend to use a jamjar for mine as I use 6mm :)
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build (Poll closed)
Post by: Simmy_82 on Dec 22, 2014, 04:51 PM
Thanks. Yeah I relooked at it today. Needs a little more curve on the edges and a touch in the middle.
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build (Poll closed)
Post by: Simmy_82 on Jan 15, 2015, 11:42 AM
Changes finally made to the neck/shoulder plate. Is this better?? If so means I can start with the armour.

(http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae77/Simmy_82/Mandalorian%20Armour/IMAG1777_zpsdyv3pukv.jpg)
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build (Poll closed)
Post by: Carid Vhett on Jan 15, 2015, 11:52 AM
I say your good to start. Plates may need some trimming once cut, but it is easier to remove an inch than add an inch.
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build (Poll closed)
Post by: Simmy_82 on Jan 17, 2015, 11:49 AM
Had to revise the colour scheme a little due to flight suit being darker than I thought.

(http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae77/Simmy_82/Mando8_zpsba96af91.jpg)
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build (Poll closed)
Post by: Simmy_82 on Mar 21, 2015, 10:38 AM
Work finally carried out in the helmet. T cut out, dome sanded, needs a but if filler on the dome and somevib the right T. Steady progress.

(http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae77/Simmy_82/Mandalorian%20Armour/IMG_20150321_141255_zps6tkz8yja.jpg)
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build (Poll closed)
Post by: Simmy_82 on May 31, 2015, 04:55 AM
Just a quick question. Is spacing on this ok? I understand that the plate on the left "sticks" out a bit. But I need to shape it further. The neck/collar is fitted. Just checking size and spacing is still ok?

(http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae77/Simmy_82/Mandalorian%20Armour/IMAG2244_zpsfq52xxee_edit_1433062325154_zps2ftz0iwz.jpg)
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build (Poll closed)
Post by: Vailin Flynn on May 31, 2015, 06:40 AM
Spacing looks good between the chest plates and collar, but the right chest plate looks a little out of alignment with the outside edge of the collar plate.
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build (Poll closed)
Post by: Kris Jasra on May 31, 2015, 06:59 AM
Looks good, evening up the spacing will deal with the chest and shoulder misalignment (tape is hard to keep straight). Get it all fully shaped and throw it on again as shaping can adjust angles of plate edges. Best to trim any little bits once it's fitted.
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build (Poll closed)
Post by: Simmy_82 on May 31, 2015, 05:22 PM
Thanks vode. I'll do as listed and see how it looks. It looks to be sticking out from the angle I took the pic and that it's not shaped properly yet.
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build (Poll closed)
Post by: Simmy_82 on Jun 03, 2015, 06:10 PM
Gonna have to trim the plates down  :-[

Price of being skinny I guess.

(http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae77/Simmy_82/Mandalorian%20Armour/IMAG2257_zpsagz1tall_edit_1433369031988_zpswdpqigko.jpg)

(http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae77/Simmy_82/Mandalorian%20Armour/IMAG2254_zpsugb7an56_edit_1433368980053_zps6bubiz9o_edit_1433369100439_zpsr07pgbbg.jpg)

Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build (Poll closed)
Post by: Kris Jasra on Jun 05, 2015, 07:42 AM
I still reckon they look about right once you get them shaped instead of sticking up off the vest.

Go take a look at Reyn's wip thread, he's also pretty thin and you can see where he put the shaping on his plates as I reckon yours need the same sort of curvature.
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build (Poll closed)
Post by: Ralin Voth on Jun 05, 2015, 08:07 PM
I wouldn't take more than 1/8" off all around, it's pretty close to the right size. I do think it needs the tiny trim though. And of course, more shaping like Kris said will help a bunch  too =)
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build (Poll closed)
Post by: Simmy_82 on Jun 06, 2015, 01:45 AM
I'll do a reshape today before I trim and see how it looks.

EDIT: Reshaping seems to have done the trick. Though I now need to trim my ab plate at the bottom. Thoughts please before I attempt to fix these bloody things with snaps.

(http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae77/Simmy_82/Mandalorian%20Armour/IMAG2268_zpsn6dhlks9_edit_1433593426682_zpskghsgxqn.jpg)
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build (Poll closed)
Post by: Jorad Werde on Jun 06, 2015, 09:46 AM
Your collar also needs to be trimmed down at the edges to match the outside edges of the chest plates. 
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build (Poll closed)
Post by: Simmy_82 on Jun 06, 2015, 09:47 AM
Your collar also needs to be trimmed down at the edges to match the outside edges of the chest plates.

Yeah I noticed that after I posted it.
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build (Poll closed)
Post by: Ashen Kelborn on Jun 06, 2015, 12:01 PM
could rolling the collar a bit to match body curve, see if that helps before chopping stuff off
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build (Poll closed)
Post by: Simmy_82 on Jun 06, 2015, 01:07 PM
It's pretty much rolled as much as is needed. I'll just trim the edge in a triangle I think once the plates are are fitted.
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build (Poll closed)
Post by: Kris Jasra on Jun 06, 2015, 05:16 PM
haha, excellent! Yup, just need to neaten up the collar edge and the ab and you're golden (or well, whatever paint you use :P )
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build (Poll closed)
Post by: Simmy_82 on Jun 06, 2015, 05:28 PM
Gonna sort collar out once plates fixed. So can better judge where to trim.with regards the ab plate I'm gonna take 1/2in of the bottom to start.

What about the pouches and holster in soft parts, any approval issues.
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build (Poll closed)
Post by: Simmy_82 on Jun 07, 2015, 03:14 PM
3 out of four plates fitted. Some issues with the press studs along the way but all resolved. Is the ab plate still in need of trimming? I have yet to trim the collar. But now all is in place I'm gonna trim it and reshape it a little.

(http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae77/Simmy_82/Mandalorian%20Armour/IMAG2279_zpsqjryzmhl_edit_1433703838783_zpssc0x38eu.jpg)

Edited this image as white on white not easy to see.

(http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae77/Simmy_82/Mandalorian%20Armour/IMAG2283_zps43serct5_edit_1433703906413_zpsjzwr0sj6_edit_1433703943261_zps8k3yevex.jpg)
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build (Poll closed)
Post by: Jorad Werde on Jun 07, 2015, 05:41 PM
A few things.  The Collar plate needs to be trimmed so the outside edges are even with the outside edges of the chest plates.  THe left side looks fine, it's the right side that needs to be trimmed, and I'd take about an 1/8th of an inch off the bottom edge of the ab plate and move it down just a bit to make that ab to chest plate spacing easier to deal with. 
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build (Poll closed)
Post by: Kitala-Enby on Jun 07, 2015, 06:43 PM
I'd say your plates need a bit more shaping. still look kinda flat and poking up round the edges. a good thing to do sometimes is over shape them a bit if they're as shapes as they can be to your torso. every edge of the plates should more or less press against you.

The main issue where i see this is the edge of the chest plates, specifically the outside corner in the middle of the chest plate, it still juts out and looks flat to me. maybe a side on picture will confirm wither or not this is just me.

As you've said before a wee trim from the sides of the collar and as Jorad said maybe a CM or two off of the bottom of the ab plate. It should be within an inch of your navel.

For future reference do you have anybody to take pictures of you? As there's quite a bit of inconsistency in spacing of the plates in some pictures i think caused by how you hold the camera. because in your first picture your collar seems to be misaligned on both sides where as the second it seems to be only on one side.
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build (Poll closed)
Post by: Simmy_82 on Jun 08, 2015, 01:18 AM
Thanks vode. I thought the ab plate needed a trim just wasn't sure how much.

You cant quite see in the pics buti have marked with pencil a few areas that need reshaping so plan on doing that. Also one of one the chest plates isn't fully fixed down as one of the press studs came loose (strong female end pulled the male from the plate).

Thanks for the advice. Will post more pics once of made the adjustments.
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build (Poll closed)
Post by: Kitala-Enby on Jun 08, 2015, 07:58 AM
best advice i can give. rough up the surface for the snap to adhere to.
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build (Poll closed)
Post by: Simmy_82 on Jun 08, 2015, 08:58 AM
best advice i can give. rough up the surface for the snap to adhere to.


Thanks, yeah I had done that. But the loose snap was where I did additional shaping. Heat gun likely loosend it, that coupled with the stronger female snap didnt help.
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build (Poll closed)
Post by: Simmy_82 on Jun 14, 2015, 05:58 AM
I took this with my flight suit on. It filled my concave chest out a little more. You can see on the neck/shoulder plate that I've drawn a line for trimming.

Thoughts please. Shadow not really helping though.

(http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae77/Simmy_82/Mandalorian%20Armour/IMAG2324_zpsitesrrkv_edit_1434275660301_zpskikfpjob.jpg)
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build (Poll closed)
Post by: Ashen Kelborn on Jun 14, 2015, 09:12 AM
Thanks vode. I thought the ab plate needed a trim just wasn't sure how much.

You cant quite see in the pics buti have marked with pencil a few areas that need reshaping so plan on doing that. Also one of one the chest plates isn't fully fixed down as one of the press studs came loose (strong female end pulled the male from the plate).

Thanks for the advice. Will post more pics once of made the adjustments.

When I did mine, I made the plate to fit, then put male snap on a small square of plexi card give it more surface area , warmed one side gentley in the area I wanted to put it and countersunk the whole piece, then uses pipe weld to make sure everything is fused together and snug.
never ever have any come loose or needed to re apply ;D
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build (Poll closed)
Post by: Vanlande Ne'trasenaar on Jun 23, 2015, 02:22 AM
I took this with my flight suit on. It filled my concave chest out a little more. You can see on the neck/shoulder plate that I've drawn a line for trimming.

Thoughts please. Shadow not really helping though.

(http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae77/Simmy_82/Mandalorian%20Armour/IMAG2324_zpsitesrrkv_edit_1434275660301_zpskikfpjob.jpg)
Sorry I'm late to this. I almost would have suggested 1/4" of the outer edge of everything. You're like me, us tall, slender guys run into issues. As it is right now, there are just a few things off. The collar hovers off the outside edge of your shoulders just a bit. Heat the area and 'twist' them to fit the slope of your shoulders. That'll fit the form better.

For the chest, shoot for a more gradual curve. You don't want the edges to "curl" over your sides. That's where the trimming would have come in handy. It's still savable though. In fact, I'd even call it good man. I'm just giving you nitpicky stuff  ;D
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build (Poll closed)
Post by: Simmy_82 on Jun 23, 2015, 04:18 AM
Yeah being slimmer than a child doesn't help matters. I'm 6'1 and about 125lbs...

 I'll trim the outer edge a touch. As i think there's enough space to do so.

I'm struggly with the collar. I have surprisingly square shoulders (my archery coach hates it) I'll try curve/twist them some more.

Thanks for the tips vod .
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build (Poll closed)
Post by: Simmy_82 on Jun 25, 2015, 04:45 PM
1/4" taken off as recommended. This better? I still need to re-trim the neck/shoulder. Is this size better?

(http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae77/Simmy_82/Mandalorian%20Armour/IMAG2391_zpsnkkdvtxe_edit_1435264729324_zps0ykiiier.jpg)

EDIT: I've worked out I need to pad the centre of my chest out. With it being concave it makes the plates sure funny so will work in adding some padding into a base layer.
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build (Poll closed)
Post by: Vanlande Ne'trasenaar on Jun 28, 2015, 04:32 AM
Right on, yeah that looks much better from here!
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build (Poll closed)
Post by: Simmy_82 on Jun 28, 2015, 10:03 AM
Right on, yeah that looks much better from here!

Thanks vod. I looked at your wip/build for reference seeing as youre the nearest size to me I've seen.

Seeing as I'm waiting the foam padding to arrive. I've worked on my codpiece. What's the best way to fix this? I'm thinking of attaching it to by belt with press studs and one press stud right on the crotch? Other suggestions welcome.

Here's the codpiece when I was shaping. I've since glued the smaller plate on the front.

(http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae77/Simmy_82/Mandalorian%20Armour/IMAG2413_zpszbkwh5iq.jpg)
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build (Poll closed)
Post by: Simmy_82 on Jun 30, 2015, 04:09 PM
Solved the fixing issue. Glued two bel clips off a mobile (cell) phone case. Works perfect. Also glued front on and body filled all around the joint. Sand it tomorrow.

(http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae77/Simmy_82/Mandalorian%20Armour/IMAG2420_zpshkonefjp_edit_1435694227412_zpsdpsdcmhg.jpg)
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build (Poll closed)
Post by: Simmy_82 on Jul 04, 2015, 11:48 AM
Codpiece now painted and weathered. No detailing on this piece of armour so easy enough .

(http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae77/Simmy_82/Mandalorian%20Armour/IMAG2438_zpstuqgkxo8_edit_1436024769626_zpsauywsf3j.jpg)

(http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae77/Simmy_82/Mandalorian%20Armour/IMAG2440_zpskft6n9xa.jpg)

(http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae77/Simmy_82/Mandalorian%20Armour/IMAG2439_zpsbz57zvoq.jpg)
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build (Poll closed)
Post by: Kitala-Enby on Jul 04, 2015, 09:06 PM
cod looks very nice. good job hun :)
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build (Poll closed)
Post by: Vanlande Ne'trasenaar on Jul 05, 2015, 03:59 AM
Nicely done sir!
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build (Poll closed)
Post by: Simmy_82 on Jul 05, 2015, 09:51 AM
cod looks very nice. good job hun :)

Thank you!!

Nicely done sir!

Thanks! A question regarding the shoulder plates. With me have very skinny arms / shoulders is it ok for me to use smaller plates than those in the templates provided in the medium size. in essence id be using the small size templates for shoulders and likely knees as opposed to medium?
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Custom Mando Build (Poll closed)
Post by: Simmy_82 on Jul 11, 2015, 12:08 PM
Good weather int' North means partly painted shoulder plate. It's.going to have a black rectangle and white Vok'Chi clan logo in white over the top. Just waiting arrival of decals.

(http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae77/Simmy_82/Mandalorian%20Armour/IMG_20150711_165154_zps6ndrhcfc.jpg)

Here it is fitted to the vest:

(http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae77/Simmy_82/Mandalorian%20Armour/IMG_20150711_170351_zpsvjpnmjsn.jpg)
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Assassin Mando Build
Post by: Simmy_82 on Jul 15, 2015, 04:35 PM
Some small setbacks today. Padding arrived to fill my concave chest this has thrown more spanners than fixes into the works. without padding it looks crap.with padding it looks better but still looks "off".

I got frustrated with it and now leaving it until after the weekend. Have an extra rib is no fun.

(http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae77/Simmy_82/Mandalorian%20Armour/DSC_0056_zpskelgh7ax_edit_1436992361425_zpsmzbhclyh.jpg)
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Assassin Mando Build
Post by: Welkin on Jul 16, 2015, 10:42 AM
I don't think it looks that bad with the padding, the only issue might be that the chest plates might curve too much on the outside. But otherwise it's decent.
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Assassin Mando Build
Post by: Simmy_82 on Jul 25, 2015, 12:16 PM
Here's a side on view with padding in place.

(http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae77/Simmy_82/Mandalorian%20Armour/DSC_0115_zpsv0nqjqin_edit_1437840658528_zpsoh6j1tn4.jpg)
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Assassin Mando Build
Post by: Simmy_82 on Jul 30, 2015, 02:55 PM
Primed the chest plates as the Foamex is white it's hard to judge. Opinions please.

(http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae77/Simmy_82/Mandalorian%20Armour/IMG_20150730_192355_zpshe0j3jc9.jpg)

(http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae77/Simmy_82/Mandalorian%20Armour/DSC_0146_zpsd3cnsrlq_edit_1438282366536_zpskhx6wmun.jpg)
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Assassin Mando Build
Post by: Simmy_82 on Aug 01, 2015, 09:31 AM
Added Vok'chi clan logo to one shoulder and a black rectangle to the other (for squad/brigade tag). Also dirtied them up.

(http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae77/Simmy_82/Mandalorian%20Armour/DSC_0153_zpsb84uyjuy.jpg)

(http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae77/Simmy_82/Mandalorian%20Armour/DSC_0154_zpsjn8tzzib.jpg)
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Assassin Mando Build
Post by: Simmy_82 on Aug 04, 2015, 06:59 AM
First knee plate made. Test fitting tonight then hopefully spray it. Then make the other.

(http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae77/Simmy_82/Mandalorian%20Armour/FB_IMG_1438634223600_zpswqbhokk0_edit_1438685861471_zpsqit1v74l.jpg)
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Assassin Mando Build
Post by: Kitala-Enby on Aug 04, 2015, 09:22 AM
The knee looks good. But i have a touch of advice. At the bottom front of the knees. i'd suggest you round off that angle there. then if you go around the bottom edge of the knee with a heat gun and bend in the foamex inwards to create a bevel on the edge. it can really make a pair of simple knees look great.

(http://i57.tinypic.com/333brzm.jpg)

The orange here indicates where to heat and the red shows which direction to bevel the edge. Hopefully that makes my explanation clearer.

I create the bevel by putting on some thick gloves and pinching the sintra at the edge and bending it inwards.

I use the same method on my thigh plates, cod, the top of my shins and the sides of my back plate behind my shoulder blades. it is particularly useful on the back plate as it removes or lessens the crease that often appears in that spot, which is caused by the lack of  compound curve where the horizontal curve of the bottom of the back meets the vertical curve that starts mid back and goes up over the shoulder. this creates a slight compound curve, but a lot of the time it doesn't create quite enough to fully remove the issue.

Sorry that got a bit longer than i intended it to but hopefully the info is useful. If you check the photos I'm tagged in by Cassandra on facebook you can see one of my back plates in better detail.
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Assassin Mando Build
Post by: Simmy_82 on Aug 04, 2015, 09:28 AM
Ha ha. Lengthy response. I'll do as advised on the knees tonight before test fitting.

Regards the back plate I'm omitting that fit the time being and going for a cloak. Purely because I have no one to help mould it. I'll get Foamex cut up and ready for shaping at another armour party (should one occur)

EDIT: Reshaped and test fitted. Are they a suitable size??

(http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae77/Simmy_82/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0174_zpsrrzygqbk.jpg)

(http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae77/Simmy_82/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0176_zpsbzsg1r6l.jpg)
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Assassin Mando Build
Post by: Jorad Werde on Aug 04, 2015, 08:54 PM
Looks about right.  The curved under side on a knee isn't a necessity, but it's a cannon embellishment
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Assassin Mando Build
Post by: Kitala-Enby on Aug 05, 2015, 05:20 AM
not necessary but adds a nice bit of extra detail, and I feel like we should always encourage members to try and go that little bit further with their efforts. especially when it is entirely within their abilities. it also just looks good. i mean no mando armour piece is entirely without compound curves in the movies except maybe Jango's shoulders. but even then all of his plate seem to taper inward towards the edges so they actually might have a bit of a dish to them.

Simmy. those look great, size is spot on too.
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Assassin Mando Build
Post by: Simmy_82 on Aug 05, 2015, 06:38 AM
Thanks vode. I'll go ahead and make the other and get them sprayed. Is the elastic ok on these?  I've gone for as close a grey as I can. I know elastic isn't permitted on some parts of the armour?
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Assassin Mando Build
Post by: Kitala-Enby on Aug 05, 2015, 07:10 AM
elastic is fine as long as it is colour matched and I didn't even notice that until you mentioned it so I'd say it's good. just make sure to weather the elastic alongside your flight suit. also there's a wee bit of velcro sticking out of the top, jut make sure that's a temp flaw and not something that happens every time.
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Assassin Mando Build
Post by: ConDar Ward on Aug 05, 2015, 08:05 AM
elastic is fine as long as it is colour matched and I didn't even notice that until you mentioned it so I'd say it's good. just make sure to weather the elastic alongside your flight suit. also there's a wee bit of velcro sticking out of the top, jut make sure that's a temp flaw and not something that happens every time.

 I agree ....  the shape looks Really Good ...  ;)

  However I don't Trust Velcro on my knees anymore ... I like to kneel down With kids Too much ... :laugh:


I look Forward to seeing more ..... keep up the Good Work  8)
 
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Assassin Mando Build
Post by: Simmy_82 on Aug 05, 2015, 01:16 PM
Thanks again. I may change from velcro. I'll see how they go.

Yeah kitala, it's a fairly close match buy not perfect. I'll be sure to weather it too.
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Assassin Mando Build
Post by: Simmy_82 on Aug 07, 2015, 01:21 PM
Knee one done.

Before weathering :

(http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae77/Simmy_82/Mandalorian%20Armour/IMG_20150807_175704_zpswxjorojq.jpg)

After:
(http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae77/Simmy_82/Mandalorian%20Armour/IMG_20150807_180948_zpsbbyohxkf.jpg)
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Assassin Mando Build
Post by: ConDar Ward on Aug 07, 2015, 01:39 PM
I really like that ... Very nicely done ...  8)
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Assassin Mando Build
Post by: Kitala-Enby on Aug 07, 2015, 01:40 PM
Looking good vod my first knee paint up was terrible. far to much battle weathering. you've got a nice balance. One thing you could do with elastic is just epoxy it in place on the knee, then slip it on. that's what I've done with every kit I've built. Though when i upgrade my knees and flight suit I'm going for internal strapping.
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Assassin Mando Build
Post by: Simmy_82 on Aug 07, 2015, 01:56 PM
Thanks. I remember reading less is more when comes to damage.

Epoxy hold pretty well then??
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Assassin Mando Build
Post by: Kitala-Enby on Aug 07, 2015, 03:04 PM
Yeah. I'd suggest cutting a cross hatch with a scalpel into the underside of the plate before hand though, if you hold the blade at a 45 degree angle (ish) then it opens up the foamex a bit and provides a great grip, just don't cut more than 1mm or so into it or you'll cut too far.
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Assassin Mando Build
Post by: Simmy_82 on Aug 07, 2015, 03:22 PM
Thanks kitala I'll give it a whirl.

EDIT: first knee strapped and fitted. And second painted and weathered.

(http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae77/Simmy_82/Mandalorian%20Armour/DSC_0211_zpsjzllx79o.jpg)

(http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae77/Simmy_82/Mandalorian%20Armour/DSC_0210_zpsqdef9n8n.jpg)
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Assassin Mando Build
Post by: Simmy_82 on Aug 13, 2015, 07:44 AM
Both knees strapped and fitted. Taken a pic with cod piece on too.

(http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae77/Simmy_82/Mandalorian%20Armour/DSC_0218_zpsju4rnpmx.jpg)

(http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae77/Simmy_82/Mandalorian%20Armour/DSC_0220_zpsi1llfuvk.jpg)
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Assassin Mando Build
Post by: Kitala-Enby on Aug 13, 2015, 08:46 AM
Taken a osik with cod piece on too.

erm... That might be an accidental type. or it's way too much information :P I'm guessing it was ment to be pic instead of the mandoa word for poop.

Lol joking aside, Everything looks good. Knees came out well. I'd advise you try and get working on the backplate asap. a good way to go about this is to tackle the awful jobs first like the cods knees and dreaded back plate. the last thing you want is to have everything bar your back plate finished only to struggle with it and lose motivation to continue working. I know a lot of people who get like that where all that is left are tedious jobs that you can't be bothered doing cause you got all the fun pieces made first. Also tackling the hard bits first means that the build only gets easier as you go.
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Assassin Mando Build
Post by: Simmy_82 on Aug 13, 2015, 09:29 AM
Amended typo.

I thought having a Cape meant not needing a back plate?
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Assassin Mando Build
Post by: Kitala-Enby on Aug 13, 2015, 09:58 AM
Oh yeah there's that too. I thought you were planning a back plate but i might be thinking of someone else.
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Assassin Mando Build
Post by: Simmy_82 on Aug 13, 2015, 10:07 AM
I do plan to have one. But gonna do that as an upgrade once app'd in. Mainly because I'm gonna wait on another armour party and get help doing it ;). Cape is more suiting to my assassin build at the moment so no rush for back plate.
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Assassin Mando Build
Post by: Simmy_82 on Sep 05, 2015, 12:27 PM
Update: The build so far. Things left to do.
1. Right gauntlet. - DONE
2. Chest diamond. - DONE
3. Cloak.
4. Girth belt.

Comments welcome!!

(http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae77/Simmy_82/Mandalorian%20Armour/DSC_0382_zps2xo5kjyn_edit_1441470364674_zpsqr1xling.jpg)

EDIT: Finished the Diamond and got that fitted. Will post an image of it all on when u get chance.

(http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae77/Simmy_82/Mandalorian%20Armour/IMG_20150906_203459_zps4mpmgavi.jpg)
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Assassin Mando Build
Post by: Simmy_82 on Dec 09, 2015, 02:27 AM
It's been a while since I posted. Here's a pic from a recent troop.

(http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae77/Simmy_82/Mandalorian%20Armour/FB_IMG_1448102800200_zps1r0ciqux_edit_1449645763203_zpszxmbuh1l.jpg)

Thinking of a few upgrades at the minute. Thinking of adding something to the biceps, maybe grenades or armour. Hopefully gonna start my back plate in the new year.

Can I ask what are the rules on using TK armour parts? Thinking of grenade tube for back of belt and possibly the bicep armour? Thoughts please.
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Assassin Mando Build
Post by: Ashen Kelborn on Dec 09, 2015, 03:27 AM
Back plate is a good move, kit always looks better with back plate  ;D

TK parts are ok as long as they don't look like TK parts as far as I'm aware, field equipment can be used without modification.

My personal opinion I'd not use their bicep armour as your quite a light armour build and you'll start looking top heavy.
 maybe equipment storage bands eg: flares or large caliber rounds, maybe small egg sized grenades.

best people to talk to are Ruus'alor's and App team members for clarification if not clear on the CRL's 

Oh and that picture looks pretty bad shebs  8)
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Assassin Mando Build
Post by: Simmy_82 on Dec 09, 2015, 05:38 AM
Thanks Ashen will look into that.

Been looking at the assassin brigade specifications.

Quote
Additional equipment can be added in the form of datapads, slicer or comm style equipment, small demolitions packs, compact macrobinoculars, etcetera, for use in getting to/observing one’s target. These are not required, but can be integrated for additional depth to the character.

Amy tips on demolition packs?

Are those TK macrobinoculars to big?

Can I convert a standard set of binoculars / telescopes?
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Assassin Mando Build
Post by: Kris Jasra on Dec 09, 2015, 05:56 AM
As Ashen said - suggested to add a bit more lower armour before going superheavy on the top or it looks unbalanced. TK parts are fine to use, just keep it to only a couple. And again, as said the armour is preferred to be modded, but equipment is good as is.

I don't think trooper macros would be too big myself, but I wouldn't go any bigger. Using real world is also fine - but they would need to be modded enough that they look more like the stormie ones rather than real world binoculars.

Demo packs - there are a few door charges and mines around on the wikis, however I'd use a couple of thermal dets - they're easily recognisable.
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Assassin Mando Build
Post by: Simmy_82 on Dec 09, 2015, 06:01 AM
May get a pair of Thermal Detonators then to add to my belt. I have some leather drop down leg holsters being made by a fellow trooper. I'll look into the stormy binoculars doopydoos do it in kit form.
Title: Re: WIP - Simmy Assassin Mando Build
Post by: Simmy_82 on Dec 22, 2015, 05:07 PM
Sourcing a set of these. They are smaller and more compact than TK ones. Can easily fill the screw holes and paint them up good.

(http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae77/Simmy_82/Mandalorian%20Armour/IMG_20151222_215457_zpskkptpwac.jpg)

Approvable??