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Mandalorian Armor => Armor Construction => Topic started by: Robidom on Mar 27, 2015, 07:39 PM

Title: First kit WIP
Post by: Robidom on Mar 27, 2015, 07:39 PM
Finally got to work on the actual plates for my kit, using the Ronan's Legacy template as a guid since I'll have to make a few changes to allow for my smaller frame.

Here's the chest and ab templates laid out.
(http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm22/robidom26/template_layout_zps6kgoyt7z.jpg)

The plating is 16 gauge steel recycled from my old community college, the IT department was cleaning house and found a few dozen under-desk computer cases so I grabbed what I could carry.
(http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm22/robidom26/WP_20150327_14_53_18_Pro_zpsoap4gpe0.jpg)

And after a few hours of cutting and grinding I have one upper chest plate to be used as a guide for making a second one!
(http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm22/robidom26/WP_20150327_18_03_24_Pro_zpshfe9l21k.jpg)
Title: Re: First kit WIP
Post by: Pesh 'katar on Mar 27, 2015, 07:48 PM
Picture links aren't working, ner'vod...
Title: Re: First kit WIP
Post by: Robidom on Mar 27, 2015, 07:50 PM
Yeah I noticed, trying to fix that. Suggestions?
Title: Re: First kit WIP
Post by: Marcus116 on Mar 27, 2015, 07:52 PM
Photobucket
Title: Re: First kit WIP
Post by: Pesh 'katar on Mar 27, 2015, 08:00 PM
Check out this thread...

http://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/index.php?topic=560.msg6765#msg6765
Title: Re: First kit WIP
Post by: Robidom on Mar 27, 2015, 08:28 PM
Should be working now.
Title: Re: First kit WIP
Post by: Pesh 'katar on Mar 27, 2015, 08:30 PM
Looks like a decent start!
Title: Re: First kit WIP
Post by: Reyn Vok'chi on Mar 27, 2015, 08:37 PM
Before you go any further, I can strongly recommend taping the templates to yourself and posting pics to see what the size is like. I'd be gutted to see you put loads of work in only to have to start chopping it down.
Title: Re: First kit WIP
Post by: Robidom on Mar 27, 2015, 08:44 PM
I'll get on that next, if you look at the template pic you'll see extra lines on the pieces, that's where I had to trim down the pieces so they would fit. Originally with just the collar and chest plates the whole getup hung down to my navel. I ended up trimming a half inch off the edges of every piece all around so it wouldn't look like I was wearing a dress.
Title: Re: First kit WIP
Post by: Reyn Vok'chi on Mar 27, 2015, 09:02 PM
Yeah, that's why I was concerned. The Legacy templates I see are more often than not on the rather large side.
Title: Re: First kit WIP
Post by: Robidom on Mar 27, 2015, 09:10 PM
Yeah, that's why I'm only using the template as a guide, just to get plate placement and shape right, which is why I haven't pieced the template into anything wearable. The one plate I have worked on still needs some work until I'm down to the guide lines I put on it, but it's the right size for me as it just covers my ribs with space for the ab plates to attach.
Title: Re: First kit WIP
Post by: Reyn Vok'chi on Mar 27, 2015, 09:18 PM
Nice one. I'll keep an eye out but feel free to give me a shout if you need  ;)
Title: Re: First kit WIP
Post by: Robidom on Mar 27, 2015, 09:40 PM
One thing I did notice, the hammer marks on the plate look like blaster impact points, instant weathering while I work!
Title: Re: First kit WIP
Post by: Robidom on Mar 29, 2015, 12:31 AM
Got me a flight suit today, think I might dye it black but not 100% on that. As to the look on my face, this is what happens when my wife tells me to smile- I get sarcastic.
(http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm22/robidom26/temporary_zpsvvyu16lu.jpg)

I found this little number at a second-hand store, I see some potential here for modding it into a DL-44 or something similar.
(http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm22/robidom26/temporary_zpsv9csmozz.jpg)
Title: Re: First kit WIP
Post by: Robidom on Mar 31, 2015, 02:57 PM
Working on the collar plate I've decided to make it in two pieces and attach them to each other, now I can either weld them, or rivet them together, which option is LEAST likely to get me dinged by the app team?
Title: Re: First kit WIP
Post by: Robidom on Mar 31, 2015, 04:00 PM
Yesterday's progress- both chest plates are now cut and shaped, still have to polish off the firescale but that will come later when I'm ready to start attaching them to my flak jacket.
(http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm22/robidom26/temporary_zpsytekzot8.jpg)
Title: Re: First kit WIP
Post by: Cin Vhe'rang on Apr 01, 2015, 03:23 PM
How'd I miss this build?! :laugh:

Looking good so far.  I'd advise riveting your plates and keeping them attached via backing straps as opposed to welding them.  Trust me, (http://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/index.php?topic=66889.0) when you weld the suckers together, you're going to lose a good deal of range of motion.  On the other hand, if you do end up welding your plates, you'll turn yourself into an unstoppable juggernaut/ crowd control Mando.  I've been used to clear paths before because my armor is pretty close to unbreakable. :laugh:

Another point to consider- welding or riveting your plates to one another will allow you to have a "floating" kit; that is, very little is attached to the actual vest itself.  A 16-gauge steel kit will be with you as long as it continues to fit, and will far outlast your vest.  It's a worthwhile idea to cut out the extra step of having to re-mount your plates when and/or if your vest wears out.
Title: Re: First kit WIP
Post by: Robidom on Apr 01, 2015, 04:57 PM
Thanks for the input Cin, I hadn't considered putting my armor together like that but I suppose I should have for the sake of simplicity. I was considering having the collar welded since it's kinda on the long side so I'd have to make two separate pieces (front and back) and then attach them so it becomes a single solid piece. I was already going to have the back plates attached to the collar but i think I'll go with what you suggested and mount the whole getup to the collar, that way if/when I make another kit all I have to do is strap on the plates over the existing soft parts and I'll be good to go.

I have some leather straps I plan on using to attach all the plates, I figure I have it I may as well use it.
Title: Re: First kit WIP
Post by: Robidom on Apr 02, 2015, 01:19 PM
Soooo.... I pieced the templates together, and this is what I found.
(http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm22/robidom26/temporary_zpsk6rzzdnu.jpg)
Yes, that bottom lame is JUST above my belly button and all the pieces are overlapping, this tells me one of two things-

1) This torso armor is going to be simpler than I thought since I won't need as many plates (thank you mom & dad for being dominantly shorter than the average American)

OR

2) I screwed up somewhere and have to recut my chest plates, which is no problem if that IS  the case since I have plenty of plating left.

Can anyone tell me one way or the other?
Title: Re: First kit WIP
Post by: Cin Vhe'rang on Apr 02, 2015, 01:36 PM
The angle of the shot is a little off, but it looks like you chest plates might be a little off.  Being short here also means you get to use less material, and have less of a struggle lining everything up, though. :laugh:
Title: Re: First kit WIP
Post by: Robidom on Apr 02, 2015, 02:26 PM
So... I didn't mess it up? Please tell me I didn't mess it up.
Title: Re: First kit WIP
Post by: Robidom on Apr 08, 2015, 01:12 AM
So I was taking apart the pistol I found and it should be fairly simple (I think) to make it more closely resemble a DL-44 or a Power-5 blaster, which essentially has me covered for a sidearm. This however, leaves me with what to use for a primary weapon.

I had considered a shatter rifle, A280, A295, proton carbine, and a bowcaster. I'm kinda leaning towards a bow caster at the moment, mainly because I have material on hand to rig the general shape of one and if nothing else I could rig up the one I have with a few small modifications (adding a longer stock, scopes, polarizing pods, and barrels) into a hopefully passable bowcaster. Any input from anyone who has done any of these would be incredibly helpful.
Title: Re: First kit WIP
Post by: Robidom on Dec 30, 2015, 07:48 PM
Gonna bump this a bit.
After a horrific series of mishaps, medical setbacks, mechanical failures, moving, and countless other impediments, my kit is once again in the works! I'm currently working at a half pace due to some medical issues but weapons for this kit are being worked on in what little spare time I have. I've taken the liberty of going over the forums and various wookiepedia entries for weapons and equipment info and I hope to have a blaster ready early next week, rifle in the near future.
Thank you MN Mando's (both OM's and UM's) for the many ideas and support, I WILL be fully geared by summer.
Title: Re: First kit WIP
Post by: Reyn Vok'chi on Dec 30, 2015, 09:42 PM
Either or is fine. A neat/invisible weld line would be better and as long as the rivets are painted and/or weathered to match the plates.
Title: Re: First kit WIP
Post by: Robidom on Dec 30, 2015, 09:57 PM
Hide the rivets on a Legacy kit? I thought those were ok on these kits?
Title: Re: First kit WIP
Post by: Cin Vhe'rang on Dec 31, 2015, 01:22 AM
Hide the rivets on a Legacy kit? I thought those were ok on these kits?
"Painted" being the operative word.  They don't have to be hidden, just painted to match the rest of the kit.
Title: Re: First kit WIP
Post by: Robidom on Dec 31, 2015, 06:42 AM
Thanks for clarifying Cin, with any luck I should have a blaster WIP starting tonight or tomorrow, armor unfortunately still has to wait a bit.
Title: Re: First kit WIP
Post by: Robidom on Jan 24, 2016, 10:44 AM
In soft parts and weapons mode for a while until my hand heals up and I can get back to the armor itself. The seamstress for my vest has unfortunately gotten overly busy so I will likely be handling that myself, getting started on weapons this last week or so, albeit slowly while I find all the parts and greeblies I need. Probably have a bowcaster pistol here soon, gonna need a bandoleer for extra ammo and rockets, there's a place in town I can find an ammo/girth belt, managed to find parts for gauntlets too.
Long story short- I'm working on several parts of my kit all at once, mostly looking for parts on a budget. Will be posting pics will happen soon.
Title: Re: First kit WIP
Post by: Robidom on Feb 24, 2016, 10:29 PM
(http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm22/robidom26/temporary_zps0ibkzghg.jpg) (http://s292.photobucket.com/user/robidom26/media/temporary_zps0ibkzghg.jpg.html)
Here is today's progress, some time with an angle grinder and some cutting blades has sped things up nicely. Front half of the torso is nearly complete, just need to file/grind it down some more. So far it fits to just above my navel, so I'm spot on there. My armor templates seem to have disappeared in the move so I'll have to reprint those for the back half. Let's see what else... Oh! I have some rare earth magnets on the way, I plan on using those for modular kit parts and probably attaching my earcaps on my bucket when I get there, migh make battery changes easier. Any input or ideas is appreciated!
Title: Re: First kit WIP
Post by: Kris Jasra on Feb 26, 2016, 05:43 AM
Arrrrggghhhh, rust!!! :P Evil stuff, I have to carry WD-40 and a scourer as part of my kit.

Apart from the rust infection, they're looking good.

Title: Re: First kit WIP
Post by: Robidom on Feb 26, 2016, 06:46 AM
Yeah it's nasty, but also an easy fix. I brassed one plate and not the other, the non brassed plate got rusty so I know what I get to work on this weekend aside from everything else on this kit. All my plates are getting a brass coating anyway this just finalizes that idea. Brass and a good waxing outta keep any rust at bay.
Title: Re: First kit WIP
Post by: Robidom on Mar 06, 2016, 09:41 AM
(http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm22/robidom26/temporary_zpstrecdf5a.jpg)
Progress made at the armor party, plates are FINALLY shaped, just a couple touch up areas. Now to get the back half done!
Title: Re: First kit WIP
Post by: Robidom on Apr 24, 2016, 04:08 PM
Collar plates are done, just need to finish the back plates and get them mounted so I can test fit them, pics when I'm done with those!
Title: Re: First kit WIP
Post by: Robidom on May 04, 2016, 05:01 PM
(http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm22/robidom26/temporary_zpsxelckrls.jpg)
Back half of the collar plate is ground to shape, since I discarded the template that would have been the backplate in favor of a segmented back I'm free-handing it from here on out with the rest of the torso.

(http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm22/robidom26/temporary_zpskbh0vkbe.jpg)
After a few cuts and a little hand filing I have this, which will be further cut to match the shape of the front abdominal plates when I'm done as well as having 2-3 more attached to it.
Title: Re: First kit WIP
Post by: Bjourk on May 24, 2016, 12:37 AM
Love seeing another steel build!
Title: Re: First kit WIP
Post by: Robidom on May 24, 2016, 04:30 AM
Oh just wait, I've been cooking up some ideas while I've been working for the rest of the suit that I haven't seen on anything else in the threads yet ;)
Title: Re: First kit WIP
Post by: Robidom on Sep 03, 2016, 10:43 AM
(http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm22/robidom26/temporary_zpscotifbg4.jpg) (http://s292.photobucket.com/user/robidom26/media/temporary_zpscotifbg4.jpg.html)
Got the basic shaping done on most of the torso last night.
(http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm22/robidom26/temporary_zpsgcc1prud.jpg) (http://s292.photobucket.com/user/robidom26/media/temporary_zpsgcc1prud.jpg.html)
I'm thinking I need to adjust the collar by raising it a bit so it and the back plates won't be sitting so low.
I will hopefully be getting the remaining plates for my back done this afternoon and starting on my legs, cheers for long weekends!!
Title: Re: First kit WIP
Post by: Robidom on Sep 05, 2016, 12:17 AM
(http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm22/robidom26/temporary_zpsjdor4g7t.jpg) (http://s292.photobucket.com/user/robidom26/media/temporary_zpsjdor4g7t.jpg.html)
test fitting, looks like I need to take in the chest plates for a closer fit, and the collar needs to be adjusted shorter to take  up the whole works.
Title: Re: First kit WIP
Post by: Kris Jasra on Sep 05, 2016, 02:50 PM
Yeah, chest and ab need to come up to close up the gap between chest and collar at the front. And the back definitely needs raising. Looking good though, I like the custom design.
Title: Re: First kit WIP
Post by: Robidom on Sep 05, 2016, 03:30 PM
Thanks for the pointers Kris! The back plates (other than rear collar) are the only custom work so far, the rest is a scaled down Ronan Legacy template, so the gap between the front collar and chest is actually supposed to be there from my understanding.
Title: First kit WIP (Legacy in steel)
Post by: Robidom on Sep 14, 2016, 09:52 PM
I'm working on templates for shoulders that will have the same overlapping curved chevron shape as the body armor but I've encountered a slight issue as for how to attach them. My plan is to have the torso armor 'float' versus being mounted directly to my flak vest, (thanks for the idea Cin!) that being said, I have no idea how to mount the shoulders. Ideally, I would like them attached to the rest of the upper body somehow with straps to hold them in place around my arms, I'm just not sure how to accomplish this so that my upper body armor is one big piece that I can simply remove and leave the flak vest intact in case I want to swap out parts or make adjustments. If anyone has ideas I would love to hear them.
Title: Re: First kit WIP
Post by: Kris Jasra on Sep 15, 2016, 07:58 AM
One strap from front of armour - collar usually, to the front upper side of the shoulder, then strap from upper section of the backplate to the back upper on the shoulder - the two straps together will hold the weight of the shoulders and prevent any shifting of the top of the shoulder. Then if it needs it a loose strap round the upper arm to stop the bottom from shifting around.

My shoulders snap on to the main torso so I can switch out the shoulders if I want to. But it allows me to snap them in place at the back while it's on the ground, then put the torso on and fasten it up, then just clip the front straps of the shoulders on which I can reach easily on my own.
Title: Re: First kit WIP
Post by: Robidom on Sep 15, 2016, 09:11 AM
I was considering integrating the shoulders into the collar with more plating but I like your idea better Kris, it's simpler and I wont have to do any extra steel work  :laugh:
Title: Re: First kit WIP
Post by: Robidom on Oct 13, 2016, 09:14 AM
Been working on some templates for my legs, not sure if I want all the pieces separate, or if I want to go full articulated legs. I just don't wanna get TOO close to the heavy side of the CRL's.
Title: Re: First kit WIP
Post by: Robidom on Oct 03, 2017, 11:17 PM
I know it's been a while, but here is some new work been done to this kit- top half is brassed!
(https://i.imgur.com/oHCTqla.jpg)