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Mandalorian Armor => Armor Construction => Topic started by: Vhekadla Yustapir on Aug 25, 2015, 08:43 PM

Title: Vhekadla Yustapir's Upgrade Construction Fjord: MKIII & Additions
Post by: Vhekadla Yustapir on Aug 25, 2015, 08:43 PM
(http://imageshack.com/a/img537/3545/tzOucs.png)

Now I know I've gone about this retroactively, or so it may seem according to the fact that I have few forum posts and yet have a fair few pieces of armor under construction but I planned this armour out in advance using the forums as a guide and attending an armor party before beginning construction. I'll get myself sorted soon though and get this thread caught up with images and details.

Here are some 3d screenshots of varying angles (click the photos to zoom) of my SL Force-Sensitive Mandalorian who also happens to be a Sentinel Jedi Master. I am most certainly not going to be trying to cross this over here. I'm actually very keen on the idea of a force hunter brigade mandalorian instead....I often found myself roleplaying and fighting with everything but my lightsabers except for last resort so...  ;)

Anyway this art is what I am going to be strongly basing my kit design off of and in some areas, improving. And before you lambaste me, in my defense, I did this long before considering being a merc and besides it being unique to that particular role-play simulation, most SL mandalorians I've come across are osik'la di'kut's. Notice I said most...in case any of you happen to be one.  :o

(http://imageshack.com/a/img922/733/DLaVCU.png)
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Close up of chest apparatus:
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Some shots with Buy'ce (sans attachments) on:
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Requirement List:

Helmet:
Armor:
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Gauntlets:
Softparts:
Weapon:
As always constructive criticism and feed back is appreciated![/list]
Title: Re: Kyr'raim Nahk'la's First Armour Plan (WIP)
Post by: Kalo_Kloudwalker on Aug 25, 2015, 08:49 PM
This looks pretty! I can't wait to see actual pictures!
Title: Re: Kyr'raim Nahk'la's First Armour Plan (WIP)
Post by: Havelock on Aug 26, 2015, 03:12 AM
I'll second that.  And no worries on the retroactive post. It's all good, vod.
Title: Re: Kyr'raim Nahk'la's First Armour Plan (WIP)
Post by: Vhekadla Yustapir on Aug 26, 2015, 12:01 PM
Ask and you shall receive ner vode.  In fact this post will be pretty picture heavy. :)

My method has been pretty simple so far. I use the Jango templates, tape and cut them using an x-acto blade over scavenged cardboard, and then place that cardboard on expanded pvc boards to be traced and cut. I could not readily get sintra cheap in my local area and those shipping prices online were atrocious. So I ended up doing a lot of research across the boards to figure out other methods and brands that people use and the way I could get the best price.

Ultimately I ended up cold-calling a couple of larger plastics manufacturers who couldn't or wouldn't help me until I found one that redirected me to a local heavy sign shop hidden way back in the corner of an industrial office park that you wouldn't ever know it existed. I ended up having a toss-up choice between two materials, komatex and celtec.

Thankfully they were patient with me when I grilled them and they took me to the back of the warehouse for me to inspect and make my purchase. Ultimately I chose celtec and it has been wonderful to work with plus extremely cheap when you consider the size of the boards I got, 3mm and 6mm both. I barely managed to fit them in my truck, haha. Something I wish I had taken a photo of.

These are two images of the method I use for cutting armour templates.

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/661/rrk0mQ.jpg)

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/910/whgClY.jpg)

Here's one of my poor mutilated boxes after having been subjected to the template process.

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/538/raHWeo.jpg)

Here's a fun trivia fact as I post these next images, about 85-90% of the tools you might see me using, I never used nor touched before this project in my life.  :laugh:

Preprep for the largest cutting operation of the project. I had to cut those boards in half to cut them properly.
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/538/7JugRB.jpg)

My first cut and use of power tools! xD

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And the final pieces in prefab stage! This isn't everything as I'm in the middle of cutting more for the armor.
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/910/WxN66c.jpg)

I'll have more to post soon, I'm still compiling photos. While that's going on, I'm going to update my initial post with a WIP list and later when I get the chance, on my desktop I have some texture models to upload to the first post that I did for a program where I texture'd a mandalorian in photoshop and later uploaded on modified mesh models that I put together from various resources. Which is partly what I'm basing my armour off of, especially with all the effort I put into that look in the first place. :)
Title: Re: Kyr'raim Nahk'la's First Armour Construction (WIP)
Post by: Havelock on Aug 26, 2015, 01:32 PM
This is great, vod.  I'm glad to see you're off to such a great start.  And I'm in the same boat as you regarding tools.  Before I bought one, I'd never so much as touched a dremel.  Now it's my favorite thing ever!   :laugh:  Looking forward to seeing this come together.
Title: Re: Kyr'raim Nahk'la's First Armour Construction (WIP)
Post by: Vhekadla Yustapir on Aug 26, 2015, 06:34 PM
Thank you, vod! I agree my dremel is the best, though I wish I had one other than the 3000 as well. That jigsaw makes you lose feeling though after a while till you build up tolerance to it.  :laugh:

So, I was browsing through a couple of other areas and saw someone get set back on spacing. While I'm not worried about my spacing, I am a little concerned by the oddness of my body type. The templates I've been using size fine but it's easy for me to forget that collarbone is a little more prominent and steeper than some of the things I've seen others wear.

Here's the armour plates for the chest. I messed up the cut for the boba light, but I'm going to compensate with a bio look to the chest where I get either a 6mm, which I think might be a little thick but easier to get the effect of an upper half chest piece sloping down into the lower plate on both the left and right, or possibly 3mm which will probably be subtler and I'm afraid will be difficult to get the effect I want.

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/537/VsW2Ii.jpg)
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/911/mPJdsz.jpg)

Here is the flak vest all prepped for bolting that I have. It's a XS-S...can't get much smaller >_<

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/661/TWW1kk.jpg)

And here are them combined. I haven't prepared the bio layer, but I'm in the middle of that right now.

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/661/33DWCd.png)
Title: Re: Kyr'raim Nahk'la's First Armour Construction (WIP)
Post by: Kavryn Falco on Aug 27, 2015, 12:48 PM
Looking pretty good so far!  Can we get a pic of you wearing it so we can give you advice on the fit? ;D
Title: Re: Kyr'raim Nahk'la's First Armour Construction (WIP)
Post by: Mercy on Aug 27, 2015, 02:09 PM
Yep, that is an excellent look. Definitely lets see you wearing it before you start painting in case it needs trimmed.

Where did you get the vest? I love the look.
Title: Re: Kyr'raim Nahk'la's First Armour Construction (WIP)
Post by: Omega on Aug 27, 2015, 04:05 PM
Looking fantastic so far.  I hope the Naast fashion police jump in too. The plates and spacing look great. However,  what are you thinking of doing to hide the zipper?
Title: Re: Kyr'raim Nahk'la's First Armour Construction (WIP)
Post by: Vhekadla Yustapir on Aug 27, 2015, 07:15 PM
Thanks for the input vode! So to answer a couple of questions, the zipper is hidden at least in the middle by a velcro strip for the diamond. Beneath the ab plate is belts/kama, etc...I've already done a quick preview of that and the lower vest won't be visible at all. so anything south of the ab plate is nixed. The rest of the zippers I'm looking at velcro/cloth patches. I have some pleather to patch up with if nessecary. Hopfully I don't have hide the seam, because closed it's rigid and doesn't show the zipper. Though that determination isn't up to me.  :laugh:

The vest is Xtremegear to answer your question, it's a motorcycle riding vest and I shopped to find the best one I could off sale. Off sale it's about $80-110 depending on size and season, I managed to get it for about $47.  :o

The upper plate and lower plate are both primed so sorry about that, this is retroactive, haha. I'm not afraid to grind some to fix if necessary though.

Also, I'm terrible at selfies. Just so you know I don't do this for just anyone  :P

(http://imageshack.com/a/img901/6639/8FpT3M.jpg)

(http://imageshack.com/a/img911/8941/eDYlSF.jpg)
Title: Re: Kyr'raim Nahk'la's First Armour Construction (WIP)
Post by: Havelock on Aug 27, 2015, 10:47 PM
How's your mobility?  'Cause it looks a tiny bit wide, but I'm not the expert at that.  The spacing looks great.  The angles of the ab plates and chest plates match up nicely, so good job on that.  The main thing I'm seeing is that your collar plate is way low.  It should be sitting to where it's almost choking you.  So everything else needs to come up, too.  Overall, though, looks really good.
Title: Re: Kyr'raim Nahk'la's First Armour Construction (WIP)
Post by: Vhekadla Yustapir on Aug 27, 2015, 11:32 PM
I'm not having any real issues with mobility that I've found. The collar is what I was concerned about, however I have a long neck and tall shoulders. When I place my helmet on it sits low enough that the proportions seem fine. Because of the method of attachment it's very difficult to adjust, however that doesn't mean I don't have a few ideas to counter how it sits, at least to be ready in time for dragoncon, which I have already put a lot of funds towards >_< xD

1) Backplate, if I position the back plate correctly it forces the fabric up closer to my neck.

2) Layered Plating, I have actually considered adding a plate to the underside of the front neck plate to go over my steep and annoying shoulders to the underside of the backplate, which would also force the fabric up and closer to my neck.

3)Shoulder Pauldren, this would work well with my build since it emphasizes the shoulder and would conceal the neck.

My upper body is weird, each plate was placed specifically over the body area it should be covering and that's how the above ended up happening since I kept the spacing consistent throughout. If I adjusted completely for my body all things constant there would be a massive gap between the chest plates and the neck plate which would just look awkward.
Title: Re: Kyr'raim Nahk'la's First Armour Construction (WIP)
Post by: Havelock on Aug 28, 2015, 12:38 AM
Not having gotten to this stage yet, myself, I can only imagine how much you have to shift things around, millimeter by millimeter to get things placed juuuuuust right.  I'm sure you'll get it knocked out, though.
Title: Re: Kyr'raim Nahk'la's First Armour Construction (WIP)
Post by: Vhekadla Yustapir on Aug 28, 2015, 05:14 PM
Really? I thought you were on your third kit? Maybe I misunderstood your thread, haha. The problem for me is I can't shift it around millimeter by millimeter, I'd love too, and in hindsight Velcro would have worked a little better than bolts I think, but I love the security of the bolts and way it sits.

I had to use a drill bit to get into that vest and that went poorly in some cases though it turned out alright in the end. I don't have the time before convention to put that kind of cash into a new vest which is why I've come up with the alternative solutions I listed.

I'm hoping one of those will suffice since it is at the base of my neck. The vest is very form fitting being right about at my size, it's not baggy or anything. As it is I have to slip on the vest to get it on, no zippers allowed, and I can just fit my head through it and shimmy into it and that's only when I'm not wearing glasses, though it is a close thing. Anything bigger and the vest would be too baggy. So rock and a hard place with my genetics. I believe my solutions are acceptable to code, but I'd have to have an absolute directive on the matter I think...for now that is the procedure I have to work with.
Title: Re: Kyr'raim Nahk'la's First Armour Construction (WIP)
Post by: Havelock on Aug 28, 2015, 09:46 PM
Really? I thought you were on your third kit? Maybe I misunderstood your thread, haha.

Yeah, my thread title is "...and 3rd ad'ika WIP."  Meaning my third kid.   :laugh:
Title: Re: Kyr'raim Nahk'la's First Armour Construction (WIP)
Post by: Naakoya Naast on Sep 09, 2015, 11:22 AM
Looking good vod, it was great to meet you at d*con!
Title: Re: Kyr'raim Nahk'la's First Armour Construction (WIP)
Post by: Yutah on Sep 11, 2015, 04:40 PM
Holy cow, that came together quick  8)
Title: Re: Kyr'raim Nahk'la's First Armour Construction (WIP)
Post by: Omega on Sep 12, 2015, 01:53 PM
Holy cow, that came together quick  8)
Pics!
Title: Re: Kyr'raim Nahk'la's First Armour Construction (WIP)
Post by: Vhekadla Yustapir on Oct 02, 2015, 11:15 AM
Thank you vode! It was a pleasure to meet you as well Naakoya, and it was great to finally meet the real Yutah.  ;)

I've got con pics I can post, and plenty to still do to finish getting my armor, and weapons, up and over the hump to be ready for submission. There's definitely going to be some rework, especially to the paint job. I'm going to keep the same design but my twi'lek and I are going to see what we can do to improve the finish and look of the final product. I received a ton of great feedback from everyone.

I got the majority of it con ready by pulling an all-nighter with 20 minute nap shifts alternating with my partner in crime and soldering the electronics for the helmet in the hotel room...  :laugh: I also put together the kama in the hotel room as well but that is definately going to be redone since I'm not happy with it at all, not how I wanted it to look but it was serviceable for a first attempt and my first con. Now I have the time to take it easier since I have the components and get back to work when I'm done traveling. They've got me going back and forth to Talon territory for the next several weeks.

Below was my first attempt at fitting, it was the first day. It was terrible and I cringe everytime I look at it, lol.
(http://imageshack.com/a/img911/6407/415yIB.jpg)

Thankfully I got it together and after wrestling with positioning and placement, which one of the first things I am in the process of implementing a non-quick fix solution for once I get the materials and a new flight suit.

(https://imageshack.com/i/pbi1TXmQj)
(https://imageshack.com/i/p1sx3ggDj)
(https://imageshack.com/i/p3uLT2tGj)

And photobombed by an Alor'ad masqurading as a Jedi.

(https://imageshack.com/i/pcJGuJZcj)
Title: Re: Kyr'raim Nahk'la's First Armour Construction (WIP)
Post by: Omega on Feb 14, 2016, 01:01 AM
Why you no official yet? What's keeping this from happening? This kit is awesome. 
Title: Re: Kyr'raim Nahk'la's First Armour Construction (WIP)
Post by: Vhekadla Yustapir on Feb 14, 2016, 12:38 PM
Thank you vod! Truthfully there is still quite a bit wrong with the kit that won't let it pass approval just yet. I got a lot of feedback at the event.

My first attempt, this kit, was a two week rush job prior to Dragoncon, put together by a few all-nighters. I'm actually beginning all my work now, that way I will have plenty of time prior to the con to have it up to spec. I'd like it to pass approval by late April at the latest; that hinges on cooperative weather though.

This is what I've got drawn up to be done so far based on my own critique and the feedbacks of the Alor'ads and Ruus'alors I ran into at Dragoncon. My ten commandments to approval. :laugh:

1. I scrapped the Kama. It was cut and put together in the hotel room and turned out terrible. With a little time and fabric I will have a decent one in it's place.

2. The rope around the middle was haphazardly wrapped and tied; I'm working on a proper girth belt which I will attach the Kama to and it will synergize with the main belt.

3. Cod piece is getting a slight overhaul and reinforcement to be more comfortable. I was actually wearing two of them which looked strange but was the only way I could anchor it at the time.

4. Bought a new flight suit. Attachments were mostly velcro and hastily repairing with superglue constantly. Destroyed my old one. I have most of the materials with which to make a much improved system.

5. My gauntlets need work. They were held closed by a combination of velcro, hook and loop screws which kept popping out and at one point literally tied together by a piece of fabric. :laugh:

6. Helmet Reinforcement and Conversion to Mark II. I have a link to that in my signature. (WIP)

7. Better plate curves and chest diamond replacement. Plates were too flat and have already been rectified to fit the body more appropriately to approval requirements. I under curved them when I first fitted them. I've also fixed my back plate to fit properly to the curves and contours of my back. (Complete except for chest diamond.)

8. Stripping and repainting the whole ensemble to be more professional. I plan to mostly keep the color scheme but I want something more white metallic like I did originally. The closest thing I've seen been accomplished with what I desired is the light silver that I see Vraeden sporting. I'm new to painting so I'm still trying to figure that out.

9. Weapon: My weapon needs plenty of attention to get it where I want it to be and where it will pass. The one I carried at the con was a nerf gun spray painted black and the logos sanded off. I found I need to take off the triangles and fill in the manufacturers holes to make it pass muster. That is in addition to the plans I have to make it acceptably far enough away from the stock to where only those that really are experienced with nerf guns and their modification will be able to easily tell what it used to be.

10. Electronics! Though I have most of what I need everything else really needs to be almost complete to implement. It's also not necessary for approval.
Title: Re: Kyr'raim Nahk'la's First Armour Construction (WIP)
Post by: Naakoya Naast on Feb 14, 2016, 03:46 PM
Looks like you've got things in order- that paint sounds neat too- looking forward to updates!
Title: Re: Kyr'raim Nahk'la's First Armour Construction (WIP)
Post by: Yutah on Feb 14, 2016, 07:46 PM
Looks like you've got things in order- that paint sounds neat too- looking forward to updates!

Ditto
Title: Re: Kyr'raim Nahk'la's First Armour Construction (WIP)
Post by: Vhekadla Yustapir on Feb 15, 2016, 02:02 PM
I know I still have some time before I reach this step however a little planning never hurt anyone. This is a note of the paint composition I am tentatively reaching for in order of application. Opinions are welcome for this painting newbie.

1. Primer Layer: Rustoleum Grey Primer OR Rustoleum Automotive Filler Grey Primer; All purpose primer
2. Second Layer: Rustoleum Flat Black; Natural Weathering -(Ash)- / Carbon Scoring Layer
3. Third Layer: Rustoleum Satin Nickel OR Rustoleum Bright Coat Silver Finish; Beskar Layer
4. Primary Colour: Rustoleum Pearl Mist Metallic (Metallic White); Main Armor Paint
5. Secondary Colour: TBD Shade of undecided blue in the spirit of Valspars Midnight Bayou; Secondary Armor Paint (Auto Paint?)
6. Accent Colours: TBD Shade of black in the spirit of Valspars Cracked Pepper AND TBD form of Old Gold Metallic. (Preferably Model Paint Enamel. Not Spray, Acrylic, or Latex)
7. Sealing: TBD or Necessary?

Note to Self: Girth belt is going to be gold & Electronic Lights/Switches will be mix of white, blue, or yellow/gold/amber. I can't think of any other colours which will complement the scheme. I don't think green or red switches will synergize well and I have too many of those lying about since my father is a Vader.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Road to Approval: Kyr'raim's Armour Construction
Post by: Naakoya Naast on Feb 16, 2016, 10:08 PM
Sealing/clear coating is a good way to protect your paint, especially from all those bumps at cons or the plates rubbing together.
Title: Re: Road to Approval: Kyr'raim's Armour Construction
Post by: Kol Varek on Feb 16, 2016, 10:42 PM
Beware the list my friend...It always finds a way of growing! Don't get stuck in limbo, you got something really good going! But I do understand things need mending and improving sometimes!
Title: Re: Road to Approval: Kyr'raim's Armour Construction
Post by: Vhekadla Yustapir on Feb 17, 2016, 10:14 AM
List I fear thee not.  :laugh: You are absolutely right though Kol. I know it feels like I'm taking too many steps backward, but outside of the paint stripping process, which is a pain in the shebs  :'(, the list isn't surmountable. I should be more than complete and approved by the next dragoncon. I'm continuously updating and revising my first post to keep myself grounded for that very purpose.

I'm debating the sealing process Naakoya. I am not great with weathering myself and prefer natural weathering from wear and tear. Despite that I know I will need to eventually do so. Especially since I have my eye on the Force Hunter Brigade. I am not going to worry about that now though, and I'm going to focus entirely on standard approval. Don't be surprised if you see at least one light saber crystal incorporated into my buy'ce as a trophy however, haha.

That being said, here is some shots from the stripping process. I'll update with more recent ones when I get home. We'll get to some of the more juicy stuff on saturday - I hope. The weather is supposed to be warm enough (67) to work outside. My workshop is tiny and not suited for any sanding, cutting, bondo, etc...because it also contains the venting system for the whole house...sighs. ???

(http://imageshack.com/a/img922/5570/e5VYYx.jpg)
(http://imageshack.com/a/img923/9161/2812Au.jpg)
Title: Re: Road to Approval: Kyr'raim's Armour Construction
Post by: Kol Varek on Feb 17, 2016, 10:16 AM
What kind of paint were/are you using? Also, are you mixing different kinds of brands of paint?
Title: Re: Road to Approval: Kyr'raim's Armour Construction
Post by: Vhekadla Yustapir on Feb 17, 2016, 11:03 AM
I mixed to a certain extent originally. I used Rustoleum grey, black and hammered metallic silver (turned out pretty flaky for what I had hoped it would work as) for my primer layers and valspar latex paint (brushed - midnight bayou, black pepper, and blizzard fog.) for the main coats.

I was forum lurking at the time and it was indicated in one of the detailed tutorials by a retired OM that to a very certain extent mixing was okay. The latex paint did not come out like I envisioned but it was serviceable for the cons original rush job. A few posts prior I actually detailed what my paint composition was going to be for this time around. It's primarily rustoleum and as little mixing as possible except for maybe the accents and brush detailing.

 
1. Primer Layer: Rustoleum Grey Primer OR Rustoleum Automotive Filler Grey Primer; All purpose primer
2. Second Layer: Rustoleum Flat Black; Natural Weathering -(Ash)- / Carbon Scoring Layer
3. Third Layer: Rustoleum Satin Nickel OR Rustoleum Bright Coat Silver Finish; Beskar Layer
4. Primary Colour: Rustoleum Pearl Mist Metallic (Metallic White); Main Armor Paint
5. Secondary Colour: TBD Shade of undecided blue in the spirit of Valspars Midnight Bayou; Secondary Armor Paint (Auto Paint?)
6. Accent Colours: TBD Shade of black in the spirit of Valspars Cracked Pepper AND TBD form of Old Gold Metallic. (Preferably Model Paint Enamel. Not Spray, Acrylic, or Latex)
Title: Re: Road to Approval: Kyr'raim's Armour Construction
Post by: Kol Varek on Feb 17, 2016, 11:18 AM
When I was painting my helmet, especially since it was its second paint job, the paint came up a rough texture. What I recommend doing is spray down the layer, then lightly sand with a 180 grit sanding sponge. This will remove any extra paint that hasn't adhered to the surface, but it won't remove all of the paint sprayed; just excess you don't want. That'll smooth out the texture and make it look sharper. Do a couple coats of that particular color if and as necessary, then move onto your next color. Worked very well for mine, let me know how that goes! PM me if you have any questions  :)
Title: Re: Road to Approval: Kyr'raim's Armour Construction
Post by: Vhekadla Yustapir on Feb 17, 2016, 11:36 AM
Thank you ner vod! I appreciate it. I've actually documented my buy'ce and what I've done to strip it down in a separate thread that I've got in my signature. I'm very pleased with how that came out and it is the nicest looking of my stripped pieces so far. Granted that's partially cause my dads 20 year old mouse sander broke after working on my buy'ce. :o

I've sent you a quick PM.  :)

Another shot of the stripping process. This one is a bit further on but the pieces still need to be washed before I attack them with a mouse sander, whenever I can get that ordered. Till then it's hand sanding (my arm can already feel it  :laugh:) and stripping those initial layers. :-\

(http://imageshack.com/a/img922/6353/1o8VRJ.jpg)

In the spirit of not double posting; I have updated this reply with my Mk II thigh blueprints because I am very excited to begin progress on them. I actually reached out to another member here (Guess who! No prizes though, that's a suckers bet  :laugh:) on the forums today to have a private discussion regarding them. While browsing, I stumbled upon the fact that I was not the only one to have this approach and since they were so similar and he has been posting much longer than I have, I deferred to him for permission.

I strongly dislike the idea of being accused of stealing a design off anyone, let alone a vod. So I explained where I got my inspiration from for my Mk II methods, and he gave me the green-light to proceed.

(https://imageshack.com/i/poxB2oVZj)
Title: Re: Road to Approval: Kyr'raim's Armour Construction WIP (Very Pic Heavy)
Post by: Vhekadla Yustapir on Feb 22, 2016, 02:05 PM
After a productive weekend, though not as productive as I could be had I been working at full capacity :'(, I have an official progress update for everyone! Up until now I have been modifying my first post to include new construction blueprints and conceptual art and shots for my inspiration. This first post will continue to evolve constantly as I get more in depth and flesh out my design and backstory more fully.

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/923/oa6pNp.jpg)
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/924/JiuLHV.jpg)
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/924/IoyRlq.jpg)


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(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/922/MwgOM5.jpg)
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/922/yjZhvM.jpg)

Title: Re: Road to Approval: Kyr'raim's Armour Construction WIP (Very Pic Heavy)
Post by: LordMitchell on Feb 22, 2016, 02:50 PM
Awsome work so far!! I love the look of those thigh plates  :o
I should start looking in my basement too and see if I can find the same awsome stuff like you.

Michiel
Title: Re: Road to Approval: Kyr'raim's Armour Construction WIP (Very Pic Heavy)
Post by: Vhekadla Yustapir on Feb 26, 2016, 12:22 PM
Thank you vod! Good luck! I always love digging through junk...it's like an adventure. I love being able to re-purpose things, providing I actually have something lying around that I can dig at. I miss the days where you could stroll down to your local junkyard and just dig around and no one cared. Not much in the way of surplus discount junk shops near where I live.

I'm pretty excited about many of the upgrades I'm planning though! Most will be fairly easy to knock out once the weather stops being a berk. I can't do any major cutting in my basement and that's the biggest next step. All assembly, sans bondo, I can do inside rain or shine. Praying for Sunday to be sunny and reasonably warm...

My progress isn't as great this week, a disappointment for me; Weather and work has been a real pain in the shebs for me. I did however manage to complete a couple of planning designs though. Forgive the scale in the second design, I tried. :laugh:

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Fabric was also on sale locally so I got some real steals towards my girth belt and kama progress. Think I grabbed about two yards of both blue and black fabric for my kama design at 4.98 a yard.

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I've hand-sown the girth belt rope into two bundles of 7 strands and burnt the tips, but attempting to sew simple straight lines to hem my girth belt and add fabric overlays with the ancient sewing machine pictured above...well the results, including practice cloth left me shivering in a corner with sewing induced PTSD...I'm actually not sure what to do now. It seemed so simple in my head  :'( :laugh:

I know I have someone I can approach about embroidery for the mando'a script that's going to go down one side of my outer kama. I don't wish to be committed because I attempted THAT.
Title: Re: Road to Approval: Kyr'raim's Armour Construction WIP (Very Pic Heavy)
Post by: Kol Varek on Feb 26, 2016, 02:26 PM
I admire your abilities to plan and execute so well!
Title: Re: Road to Approval: Kyr'raim's Armour Construction WIP (Very Pic Heavy)
Post by: LordMitchell on Feb 28, 2016, 04:56 AM
Every problem has a solution! You' ll think of something, I'm sure about that.
Good luck with the weather, it doesn't exist here in our wet Belgium  :D :P

Michiel
Title: Re: Road to Approval: Kyr'raim's Armour Construction WIP (Very Pic Heavy)
Post by: Omega on Feb 28, 2016, 03:05 PM
Ooooooh. Pretty. I can't wait to see it complete
Title: Re: Road to Approval: Kyr'raim's Armour Construction WIP (Very Pic Heavy)
Post by: Vhekadla Yustapir on Feb 29, 2016, 10:07 PM
Update time! This weekend was fairly productive, toilet plumbing repairs mandating my time not withstanding...but first...

Thank you Kol!  :) I'm still hiding from preforming reconnaissance on the sewing machine, so no progress on that front. Thank you for the encouragement Mitchell, I was actually finding myself uninspired because of that kriffing machine until your post. No solution yet but I kept everything else up till i figure something out!  :D

Onto the updates.



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Title: Re: Road to Approval: Kyr'raim's Armour Construction WIP (Very Pic Heavy)
Post by: LordMitchell on Mar 01, 2016, 10:41 AM
WAW  :o what a progress!
That armor is coming allong pretty well I see! I can't really help you with the issues you have so the real experts will have to chime about that  :P
You can always contact someone you know that is good with these kind of things...
I'm gonna say it again: those thigh plates... just....AWSOME!!

Good luck vod ;)
Michiel
Title: Re: Road to Approval: Kyr'raim's Armour Construction WIP (Very Pic Heavy)
Post by: Kol Varek on Mar 01, 2016, 10:20 PM
Ooooh layers. Kol's a sucker for layers.
Title: Re: Road to Approval: Kyr'raim's Armour Construction WIP (Very Pic Heavy)
Post by: Kris Jasra on Mar 02, 2016, 07:29 AM
Collar looks to be a little too far away from your neck on both sides. I've got uneven shoulders (old injury) and ended up splitting my collar into three parts to allow for that as shaping it in one piece was just not working. With the collar shifted inwards a little I think you'll need a tiny bit of the outside of the top half of the chest plates. The bottom width it fine across the ab is fine as is. Also, the trauma plating on the chest plates looks a little uneven, may just be my eyes playing tricks on me though.

And those thighs needs closer inspection, you can send them to me for that ;):P

And do not let the sewing machine win! Grab some spare fabric and just start experimenting. My housemate refused to touch my machine for several years until I sat him down with some scraps and told him to just start sewing - now he's a pro and does all his own soft part making.
Title: Re: Road to Approval: Kyr'raim's Armour Construction WIP (Very Pic Heavy)
Post by: Vhekadla Yustapir on Mar 02, 2016, 10:36 AM
Thank you vod! And just think Mitchell, I'm not evendone with them yet... ;) So Excited!

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Ooooh layers. Kol's a sucker for layers.

So am I Kol, so am I...layers are sexy, especially in winter. ;)

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And those thighs needs closer inspection, you can send them to me for that

I have a distinct feeling I would never see them again...I'd be recieving a message that they were confiscated for the glory of Mandalore I'd imagine...  :laugh: :P

That sewing machine...well it's older than I am for one thing, another is that my mother used to sew with it and swears up and down something is wrong with it. After the inconsistant attempts at using it I'm inclined to agree. I'm certainly not giving up not with all my vode behind me. ;D What kind of mandalorian would I be if I was defeated by a sewing machine of all things!!

I think I will take my friend up on his offer of lending me the use of one of his dad's two indsutrial sewing machines. Surely one of the kriffing things must be in full working condition. If that falls through I know my mate has one of her friends that is going to be lending her one of their spares and I can use that instead.

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Collar looks to be a little too far away from your neck on both sides. I've got uneven shoulders (old injury) and ended up splitting my collar into three parts to allow for that as shaping it in one piece was just not working. With the collar shifted inwards a little I think you'll need a tiny bit of the outside of the top half of the chest plates. The bottom width it fine across the ab is fine as is. Also, the trauma plating on the chest plates looks a little uneven, may just be my eyes playing tricks on me though.

I really appreciate the feedback vod, even if out of all the critiques I was imagining it wasn't what I was expecting. Usually the best feedback falls as such though. If I have to end up splitting it to compensate for my shoulders I will. (I'm just going to be a stubborn sheb about it unless I'm told i won't pass approval without doing so.)

With this feedback, I am in a slight dilemma. So I'm going to talk this out and look to my brothers and sisters here for advice as I get the creative juices flowing. Based on what you've told me, while it seems an easy fix in theory, the way my armor is set...it's actually a lot more complicated.

So here's the problem, after which I will lay out a few solutions....my collar appears to be too far away from my neck on both sides. Now my initial reaction is...oh..okay no big deal. I'll cut down the center middle of the plate and split it in two. Then take even amounts off both sides till it comes in around the vests neck seal. Once sitting better I'd JB Weld it back together in the center, add a supporting plate on the backside, sand it down, and, if necessary, place a thin layer of bondo over the center mount to hide the crack. Though the epoxy weld should do that for me.

Now we come to the real problem. This is my vest and how it's mounted.

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As you can see I drilled into the leather work and put in ringlets, anchored by hotglue based on the initial feedback I got on size and fit. By bringing in the neck plate as described above I will be exposing the outer two ringlets to visibility. A similar situation will likely occur when I cut back the edges of my pec plates. Not good.

As I see it I have a few options/solutions here based on what my plans are. I can either...

With the potential solutions laid out, here is the design so you can see what I'm getting at with my madness. Kris, you mentioned that the trauma plating looks a little uneven. Are you refering to the center piece? If so, that's a mount for an overlapping neck guard seen here in the bottom half of the concept drawing below and will not be visible later. I was hoping not to need to address that piece till after approval, though if it is necessary to pass I will. It will slightly overlap a small piece of my pec plates and touch the diamond. It is inspired by my 3d armor, the second picture illustrated (I'm so tempted to start naming my illustrated references by research figures :o ...curse you Georgia Tech and your impact on my psyche! :laugh:)

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/924/3sAm3i.jpg)
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Are you refering to the right and left sides? If so, how do you mean? This will affect how I go about this design becuase it is actually not trauma plating. They are shoulder mounts for my primary shoulder guards, which in turn will have minor mounts for my anti-decapitation guard which will come doen the line after approval...so I guess you could call it trauma plating :laugh: The shoulder design is pretty accurately depicted below in my 3D rendition. (which really needs to be updated again it slowly has begun to reflect my real life deisgn with a few more additions I won't be adding into my kit...now that I think about it...though it might be fun to let you all guess which bits I am looking to add in later...fiefek I keep getting on tangents. Sorry! :laugh:) You might have to click the image to get the close up of the detail.

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Title: Re: Road to Approval: Kyr'raim's Armour Construction WIP (Very Pic Heavy)
Post by: Kris Jasra on Mar 02, 2016, 10:50 AM
If what I'm reading is right - you're intending to use the raised plating on either side of the collar as mounts for over the shoulder pauldron type things (I have no idea what to class them as). If so then just make sure those oversections protect slightly closer in to your neck than your current collar edge and you'll be completely fine.

And the mismatching trauma plating I was referring to is the chest plates not the collar, the two curved bits don't seem to have the same curve on each side.

And moi? confiscate them for the good of Mandalore? Never! Well maybe...
Title: Re: Road to Approval: Kyr'raim's Armour Construction WIP (Very Pic Heavy)
Post by: Vhekadla Yustapir on Mar 02, 2016, 11:42 AM
You're reading that right. :) I honestly got the inspiration from the roman shoulder plates on the lorica segmentata. I'll dub them Lorica for this purpose, though that is most certainly not what they are actually called... :laugh: I think I will end up trimming back the pec plates a bit more though to allow more movement. Maybe a 1/4" if I can squeeze it. And I still might try to bring in the neck a little to be honest for the sole reason for flexibility and better fit....I need to wear it again to see if it's hindering me. I'll also need to construct the base of the Lorica before making the proper determination.

I think I'll do the measurements and sintra drawings on Thursday and cutting and construction on Sunday.

My flexibility is alright, but not where I need it to be in order to sustain an actual mock fight. In the end I will have to come up with my own style (provided advertising is correct) since this build is around a medium-heavy build by definition. I feel like it is heavy, but I don't have side plating so I'm not sure it qualifies.

Oh...I see what you are talking about. I think you're right. I'll need to trim that right plate's trauma plate to match the left just a little closer. Hmm...I think I'll have to do another wax tracing of the curve to match it up...I didn't even notice that. Now it's going to bother me till I escape Talon country again and get back home. :P  I'll try to do that Thursday evening if I can. Friday is mostly booked for me and Saturday is the birthday celebrations so...not working on my armor on my birthday. Sunday though is definately up for grabs. Still so much to do!! (Goes to update first post tracker and organize) :o

I'm onto you ner vod. ;) :P
Title: Re: Road to Approval: Kyr'raim's Armour Construction WIP (Very Pic Heavy)
Post by: Kris Jasra on Mar 02, 2016, 11:48 AM
Lol. know that feeling. I still get annoyed with gauntlets at times :P As Boba actually wears electronic weapon platform bracers if you want to get historically technical.
Taking longer to get a better fit is never a bad thing, I am quite literally an envy to a lot of my clan in that I have medium, edging towards heavy armour and I can sit cross legged on the floor, lie down, pick dropped things up etc. I can say that you will not regret reworking things to get that. I've lost count of the tweaks I've made to my kit to get it sitting on me like a second skin.

And bother. Everybody always works out what I'm trying to do...
Title: Re: Road to Approval: Kyr'raim's Armour Construction WIP (Very Pic Heavy)
Post by: Omega on Aug 12, 2016, 01:23 PM
Ruus Bump.. Im excited to see what progress you've made on this kit..
Title: Re: Road to Approval: Kyr'raim's Armour Construction WIP (Very Pic Heavy)
Post by: Vhekadla Yustapir on Jan 26, 2017, 10:57 AM
Well ner vode...it's been a while. I apologize for my absence but everything hit the near rock bottom not longer after my last update. My father had to go into surgery for his back, just while my mother was on her way to recovery from hers. Not long after that he also lost his job so it's been a bit of a struggle of uncertainty while trying to keep us out of the streets since he made pretty much two-thirds of our household income. I had to spend a lot of time helping him morally and trying to keep his mind off it, he fell into a pretty dark place.

On the other hand it is not all bad news! He's now working a new job even if he is still uncertain about his stability and suitability (just needs a confidence booster). I've been helping encourage his music, which is very therapeutic for him, he plays locally at several watering holes here in GA and even got a gig with the Japanese Association of America in Atlanta. So he is recovering well that he is active as such again, though the back pain is still a limitation on him doing anything more strenuous than that.

More importantly I helped him get most of his Vader outfit as finished as it is going to get for a while. He is resigned that he will never be 501st approved or allowed to troop with them after trying to get into their forums and they were pretty brutal to him, more than encouraging. Never mind the fact he has been building this suit from scratch without any fancy modern equipment and been working on his kit since the 80's bit by bit with what he could scrounge up and had a completed kit several years before the 501st Legion was first founded in 1997. Never mind that he is using the original mold, or that his old suit was approved (and it has improved by leaps and bounds since then) by James Earl Jones himself who signed an autograph on a photo of my dad is his armor which sits next to a copy of the AJC that showcases my family at the same event. Vader (Father), Red-guard (Mother), and two diminutive storm troopers (My brother and I were five. :P) *breathes deeply at the end of venting* I needed to get that off my chest. :laugh:

Moving onto the more relevant update. While I have been crushed underneath all that I have not been idle! Very shortly, I have a bunch of updates to share with you all on my progress and I am quite pleased with where I am, even if I am not satisfied. I did get an opportunity to showcase and put my kit through a tentative test run during the time around Halloween and made an appearance in the North GA Zoo, Helen (Great Stories and Promotional Results up there as an Effect), The Blizzard of Ozzy Concert, and at Bobby G's in Milton for a Football/Baseball Game (Bears/Cubs).

I have to sort through and move my videos and images to a hosting site in order to share them with you all. So stay tuned!
Title: Re: Road to Approval: Kyr'raim's Armour Construction WIP (Very Pic Heavy)
Post by: Yutah on Jan 26, 2017, 11:12 AM
Glad you're back!

I hope your father isn't too discouraged by the 501st forums, they usually lack all tact and manners. The local garrison is much friendlier. I look forward to seeing the progress you've made.
Title: Re: Road to Approval: Kyr'raim's Armour Construction WIP (Very Pic Heavy)
Post by: Havelock on Jan 26, 2017, 11:28 AM
Hey, welcome back!  I'm sorry you've had a rough time of it with family and other costuming club issues.  That's really tough.  Just remind your dad that his enjoyment of his costume and build process is the most important, not what anyone else thinks about it.  That goes for every club, and every fan.

I'm glad you're back, though, and look forward to seeing you evolve and grow your kit and get approval before too much longer.
Title: Re: Road to Approval: Kyr'raim's Armour Construction WIP (Very Pic Heavy)
Post by: Vhekadla Yustapir on Jan 26, 2017, 02:46 PM
Part I. Underarmor and Flightsuit - Update & Flexibility Testing
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I'll begin with the changes that my design has incurred under the hood so to speak. After grappling with a design flaw with my current shoulder pieces and the fact that my vest does not have sleeves I decided to expand upon the base of my kit. Of course the color is still black it's just more rigged in order to accommodate armor attachment.

While the below video(s) will be sacrilegious to many of you I am sure. I was also demonstrating both the possibility of mock combat to my Father with his Vader Saber, as well as what I could do if I decide to participate in mock fights. Video Quality is poor, but that is because my Dad is terrible at taking video, lol.
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I've included two shots below below since you cannot see me very well in my late night winter testing videos :laughs:, still not very good since I'm shooting them myself. Before you jump all over me for the obvious :laugh: let it be said that any logos you might see have been washed out and are covered up. For example the forearms act as padding and are actually more attached to my arm-guards, potentially permanently soon as a slip on and latch it shut sort of thing.

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Additionally the shoulder padding is a neat idea that can keep you either cool or warm depending on the weather severity because it is designed to allow for cold press or heat pads to be inserted into the interior. They also server as should mount attachments for Velcro latches.
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Loving Addition to my Workshop Setup - Courtesy of Vader Painter. Band-saw and Machine Sander.
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Title: Re: Road to Approval: Kyr'raim's Armour Construction WIP (Very Pic Heavy)
Post by: Vhekadla Yustapir on Jan 26, 2017, 03:12 PM
Part II - Armor Painting - Non-Decor Coat
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To give a brief overview of what was done here, I gave my leg guards the same treatment as my vaunted thigh plates. I'm looking at you Kris... :o...I see you eyeing my sexy thighs.  :P

Even though I have painted them I have not yet done the decal and detail coats, nor have I had the chance to greeblify (I doth command this is a word!) either beyond this point.

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Coat Shine with the Final Main Coat Layer.

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Whole Kit Drying
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Title: Re: Road to Approval: Kyr'raim's Armour Construction WIP (Very Pic Heavy)
Post by: Vhekadla Yustapir on Jan 26, 2017, 03:37 PM
Part III - Putting it all together. Test Run and Fitting A: Blizzard of Ozzy Concert: Duluth, GA.
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A Wild Mandalorian Appeared! (Please note that glass was nothing but a lighted prop, that was at every table lol). In all honesty I loved the lighting at this venue due to how it interacts with the primary color coat. I did note several fitting issues to attempt to correct throughout but this was a test run after all. I had quite a few belting issues that resulted in slippage.

And yes, yes...that is a drinking horn carved with the image of a mythasaurus skull. I literally stumbled on that in the renaissance fair. I was browsing the drinking horn shop, looked at the hundreds of horns there while just browsing and the first one I seriously looked at was upside down and I picked it up because I loved its coloration. Lo and behold it was Mandalorian Themed...the only one in the entire shop.  :o
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My Father, go ahead laugh, :laugh:, posing with me prior to the show start. When the show started I stayed for a few songs than my way to a larger area where I could mingle and watch my cubs play the dodgers for the NLCS.
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Title: Re: Road to Approval: Kyr'raim's Armour Construction WIP (Very Pic Heavy)
Post by: Cin Vhe'rang on Jan 27, 2017, 01:33 PM
Not bad, vod.  Not bad at all. :D
Title: Re: Road to Approval: Kyr'raim's Armour Construction WIP (Very Pic Heavy)
Post by: Bariikas Talgal on Jan 29, 2017, 06:38 PM
Not bad... Not had! I will be following this thread with enthusiasm, and look forward to seeing the finished design. Look forward to seeing the pictures.  ;D
Title: Re: Road to Approval: Kyr'raim's Armour Construction WIP (Very Pic Heavy)
Post by: Vhekadla Yustapir on Jan 29, 2017, 11:34 PM
Part III - Putting it all together (cont.) Test Run and Fitting B: NA GA Zoo & Helen
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I suppose I have teased you long enough with not posting the most recent images, but you shall wait no more! These last few are from my venture to the North GA Zoo on Halloween Weekend and Helen afterword during that last part of Oktoberfest.

I also want to preemptively point out that I do realize some of the images show me without my neck covering. In all fairness, I am in the middle of replacing that, because my current one is very ill-suited for the 90 degree weather we were in  :-\.

North GA Zoo
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Helen
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I have one more set to share with you when my Father and I went to the Bears/Cubs game where I was actually cleared to bring everything by the establishment but that last photo remains one of my favorite and certainly where I view my kit to be at. I have not had time to paint it recently and the weather is not very kind to promote such a thing until early spring at the earliest.

When in Helen I had a wonderful time promoting what we do. Our goals, mission, and charity to local individuals. I know one person at the very least took a video of me giving a pitch on our organization. I regret not asking her to send me a copy of the video, but alas , hindsight. My favorite interactions were with the kids. There was one adorable kid who was up there with his parents who had been going through a rough patch and were trying to revitalize and get away from things and after a round of interaction with their child, letting him put my helmet on and taking him through a series of photo ops with them they said it was without a doubt the light of their vacation and made it quite clear the impact we had on them. Sadly my phone freaked out so I have no photos of that encounter, but I got my first real taste of what it is that we do and how we might affect others in Helen and it is a powerful thing.
Title: Re: Road to Approval: Kyr'raim's Armour Construction WIP (Very Pic Heavy)
Post by: Jiden Cutla on Jan 31, 2017, 07:18 PM
looks awesome vod! i just got online and found a distributor of celtec! so stoked to get my hands on some proper materials!! So stoked on your beskar'gam! OYA!!
Title: Re: Road to Approval: Kyr'raim's Armour Construction WIP (Very Pic Heavy)
Post by: Zando on Feb 01, 2017, 01:46 PM
Amazing vod! That armor is some of the coolest I've seen. You've obviously got massive skills! And you can tell your dad that whatever anyone may say, his Darth Vader suit is perfect!
Title: Re: Road to Approval: Kyr'raim's Armour Construction WIP (Very Pic Heavy)
Post by: Kol Varek on Feb 01, 2017, 09:33 PM
Seeing a bit of neck meat there vod!  ;)
Title: Re: Road to Approval: Kyr'raim's Armour Construction WIP (Very Pic Heavy)
Post by: Vhekadla Yustapir on Apr 19, 2017, 12:53 PM
That last shot was actually in a parking lot as I was taking a break and someone blindsided me for a photoshoot, haha. It was 86 degrees and my thick balaclava was too much for the weather so i wasn't wearing anything at all to prevent the neck from showing.

I have since invested in a thinner, more heat friendly one that should mesh well with the kit for warmer weather. In my defense I did point it out ner vod.  :P

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I also want to preemptively point out that I do realize some of the images show me without my neck covering. In all fairness, I am in the middle of replacing that, because my current one is very ill-suited for the 90 degree weather we were in  :-\.

Though if it makes you feel better, here is a shot or two of me after making a few adjustments in an even more public setting whilst rooting for the Cubs.

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(https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14947559_10154675741773055_5584413965955789085_n.jpg?oh=70646b388e935b88e15d7301840b8bb9&oe=598E1495)

I don't like this shot at all but it highlights some of the detail on the gun because of the glare.

(https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14695359_10154675741833055_384393103936856392_n.jpg?oh=6f41105886eddb6d5e392029061d7e5f&oe=5979CC54)

I just got new rope to replace the flaking old one that I was not comfortable with so I will be redoing my girth belt and kama this weekend. I'll have a paper design of my plan in the near future. My biggest concern is actually my chest plate and whether approval will accept it; maybe I'm being too OCD about it. I'm going to try to bend them a little further this weekend though it will be a true test of patience and not damaging the base paint.
Title: Re: Road to Approval: Kyr'raim's Armour Construction WIP (Very Pic Heavy)
Post by: Vhekadla Yustapir on May 02, 2017, 02:11 PM
Update time ner vode! I've had a busy time of it this week and am pushing pretty hard to get things done because I feel like I am comfortable that I have enough done to meet the requirements to submit for approval, or I soon will.

Most of what I have left to do is painting and I'm well on my way there. I won't have any good photos of progress till this evening but I'm going to show piece by piece each item.

In the meantime I do have a little I can show and tell. I decided to practice my sewing and cloth working prior to replacing my girth belt. this was the result of my labors.

(https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/18199025_10155401837709739_7159746660449813169_n.jpg?oh=f306d3147a52b7a1da5e6c2375a16aa5&oe=59C2A475)(https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/18300805_10155401837714739_117248743032318125_n.jpg?oh=9a1a9637b69622ee21f655c41ba034f0&oe=598C9392)
(https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/r270/18198415_10155401923689739_9095417484185262910_n.jpg?oh=caa0e0d8ffdba19aa5a42232cee4200b&oe=5989F0A5)

For a first-timer, I am pretty proud of how they came out! :o Though my skills as a photographer leave much to be desired. :laugh:

I also began work on my girth belt and kama which is coming along pretty swimmingly. I drew a rough sketch-up of the basic design I wanted to leverage before going out and getting different material. I've definitely received some very positive feedback locally compared to my old fabric choices.

The Sketch:
(https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/r180/18274691_10155401837694739_8469118261061777837_n.jpg?oh=ed229ee3bc44a4817bf22f29cd4312d4&oe=59BD571C)

The Beginning:
(https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/18222241_10155401837919739_4496655019939856535_n.jpg?oh=965fe92ec9d307ec145ffbb880d36a01&oe=5986B589)

 I'll have some of the juicier stuff for you later tonight.  :P
Title: Re: Road to Approval: Kyr'raim's Armour Construction WIP (Very Pic Heavy)
Post by: Kol Varek on May 02, 2017, 04:38 PM
Looking good so far!
Title: Re: Road to Approval: Kyr'raim's Armour Construction WIP (Very Pic Heavy)
Post by: Vhekadla Yustapir on May 03, 2017, 09:22 AM
Looking good so far!

Vor entye, ner vod! Hopefully that opinion won't change too much when I suit up.  8)

I got a lot done last night. Everything is painted except for my chest plate and helmet which are currently drying in my basement. I should be able to finish detailing them tonight and suit up tomorrow for pre-approval. Without further ado, here are my updates.

Picture of my chest plate taped up for painting:
(https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/18194944_10155404352259739_8121426583829237870_n.jpg?oh=0d066f804e66dc7156b3fb165ffc406b&oe=59741D4F)

Photo of my rifle being repaired:
(https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/18198445_10155404352254739_8116073466157691856_n.jpg?oh=f461484dc84ac5c3eba5d2a79c03a536&oe=598B1507)

Everything in one place (sans chest and helmet). All pieces are aligned based on which side of the body they go except for the gauntlets which are on reversed sides because they roll over otherwise :laugh: :
(https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/18222109_10155404352504739_8363379519963638528_n.jpg?oh=c20893cc893da1601df87fa3162ce189&oe=5974F63E)

Close-up of Gauntlets. First Right, then Left. Forgive my grainy photography:
(https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/18221733_10155404352249739_8669132033777940539_n.jpg?oh=d874db0e52f87f3f2c2325a505bc854d&oe=59869933)

(https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/18222184_10155404352489739_6179000664706330453_n.jpg?oh=6bf280e1b488d565c0608ef23ccbb4b8&oe=59BEA334)
Title: Re: Road to Approval: Kyr'raim's Armour Construction WIP (Very Pic Heavy)
Post by: Kardos Shantiel on May 03, 2017, 06:08 PM
Mmm, that's some good looking armor! Can't wait to see it all assembled!
Title: Re: Road to Approval: Kyr'raim's Armour Construction WIP (Very Pic Heavy)
Post by: Vhekadla Yustapir on May 04, 2017, 07:03 PM
Cuy ca'nara, ner vode.

As I post this to you, I have assembled my first round of pre-approval shots for my local clan in Georgia. While I sort through them I feel the need to write a self-reflection so feel free to skip past this if you'd like to just get to the good stuff already  :P :laugh:. It has been three years since I embarked on this journey.

When I was younger, before science fiction costuming or the culture of costuming even began, my family was one of the first local ones to participate heavily in events. In that time there was no easy access to molds, materials, or the internet. Everything had to be done by hand or purchased through a friend of a friend (at least where I was born). I watched my Dad do this throughout my early years as he wired and crafted nearly everything from scratch dumpster diving in junkyards, and crafting cardboard and fiberglass armor. The extent of my participation was as a diminutive stormtrooper with my younger brother, alongside mother who was an Imperial Guard. My Dad...well my Dad is and was my inspiration for doing this...and vice versa once he saw me really get into it...but I digress.

He got me into the movies, I read every book I could get my hand on, designed mods, played video games, and at one point was so crazy enough to hijack a basement room to physically plot every known planet in canon on a 3 dimensional grid based on either their hyperspace coordinates or by extrapolating context clues on where they were most likely to be. I'm surprised I wasn;t committed. :o I have no regrets. :laugh:

(https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/18268155_10155408988604739_6919704004967713010_n.jpg?oh=502b989eb802a8f925ff6fa6802f29b8&oe=59888BF0)

This part is more of a confession on my part than anything. When I was in college, on behalf of one of my business professors, I investigated a program called Second Life. What started as a project, quickly became an escape and in that I discovered star wars roleplay. I was sucked into this entirely, my character is and was an important part in developing and discovering not only myself but my star wars identity. I won't go into unnecessary details here, but it was my decisions there and in real life that set me on a crash course with the Mercs.

At my first Dragon-con, I shared with a member of Naast, Pre-Alabama chapter a series of photohops for second life armor I was designing inspired by one of the Mercs featured on predominately on deviant art. In a hilarious set of circumstances, it turned out I was speaking directly with the one who inspired me. He welcomed me and gave me the advice that set me on my path here. I've kept his words ever since and in some ways my design still reflects parts of that in it. Particularly in my chest piece, if you squint.  :rolleyes:

With all that said, I want to thank everyone, from my family, my local chapter, armor parties, the greater community and every member I've met and has encouraged me whether at Dragon-con or on the boards (threatening to confiscate my armor for the glory of Mandalore *coughs* and glances about with paranoia), and a thankful call out to Brent (you know who you are) my fellow Alumni. Vor Entye! I've finally arrived to the pre-approval stages.

I am Vhekadla Yustapir, though I prefer to go by "Yusta." My name literally means "Sandy River", but was meant in the Spirit of a Northern Sandy River, of the Far North.

My chosen colors are White, Blue, Gold, and Black. Discarding other personal preferences or self-importance, here is a brief summary of what they mean on my armor.


If you've skipped all that, no worries. Here is your reward! The juicy armor shots.  8)  :laugh:

Front:
(https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/18300873_10155409020674739_262937047432588171_n.jpg?oh=d4a67e765b6f84c47ac773fb48446386&oe=598B89D7)
Side:
(https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/18222252_10155409020254739_3355541752327543414_n.jpg?oh=4c043a456e520db34dfa5389f3b7cab1&oe=59BFB686)
Side:
(https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/18222080_10155409020604739_646228660113104299_n.jpg?oh=72e94dd6bc90941b06b7a91771b7d5e1&oe=59B88AE8)
Back:
(https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/18341824_10155409020149739_6865725393986708048_n.jpg?oh=707150af6781f80e13ce2307aa87cd61&oe=59814662)
Angle 1 & 2:
(https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/18268481_10155409020259739_8508077544964423033_n.jpg?oh=a60ee6212a93737cc86a85ebdc9294c2&oe=5986DCCC)
(https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/18274753_10155409020714739_2556591493379570714_n.jpg?oh=ff1b74de79dac27f3c296da08b2045f9&oe=59C0FBE1)
No Helmet:
(https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/18268331_10155409020984739_3624994317672286187_n.jpg?oh=ba59fc53b4812891d3832ec0703a2743&oe=597B7C2E)
Weapons:
(https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/18222309_10155409030329739_3455735065184500656_n.jpg?oh=ab95d1f950019fd88e7d169d42c94e1c&oe=59896833)

May the 4th be with you all! And me... :laugh:. Here's hoping pre-approval goes well so I can submit this week. I have to travel to NY this week and am praying to the spirits be an OM by Memorial Day weekend so I can participate in the Savannah Event. Kandosii!
Title: Re: Road to Approval: Kyr'raim's Armour Construction WIP (Very Pic Heavy)
Post by: Kris Jasra on May 05, 2017, 05:55 AM
Very nice indeed.
Not quite sure with the lighting - but if your left arm has a zip on it, make sure it's hidden or removed. And I'd trim the bottom corners of the ab plate just a touch so your girth belt isn't being pulled around them.
Title: Re: Road to Approval: Kyr'raim's Armour Construction WIP (Very Pic Heavy)
Post by: Vhekadla Yustapir on May 05, 2017, 01:28 PM
With some advice from a friend, I was told it would be good to attempt a shoot today anyway while it was cloudy, even if it was lightly raining to get some good shots that minimized sun-glare. With that in mind, hopefully these are better shots.

I also took your advice Kris and trimmed the bottom edges of my ab plate and shifted my girth belt down some since I believe I positioned it too high.

Front:
(https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/18268636_10155411546564739_4841316560687271926_n.jpg?oh=f0de2abe63f1834102f5fe7c99982868&oe=5989171C)
Side(s):
(https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/18268262_10155411546559739_2775289050512274010_n.jpg?oh=6bcee5d3b00f62ec203c30931eb27edf&oe=5974BD87)(https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/18301497_10155411547059739_2010153563093157124_n.jpg?oh=057da23f70406b0011acb1ad5b77ca1b&oe=5974B14D)
Back:
(https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/18222552_10155411546494739_9087074584693816381_n.jpg?oh=9a16d04cacef7738eb9bd46580326498&oe=59B49294)
No Buy'ce:
(https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/18199336_10155411547014739_5064078135772154227_n.jpg?oh=474fe61b19e6dc3b0a3bbd1c43c37e81&oe=59BC7437)
Weapon:
(https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/18341735_10155411560664739_4078154563049069469_n.jpg?oh=07533d9ad2ee9f43e259a240e0c64973&oe=59B8551A)

I like the look but personally would like to black wash the armor to make it pop more, I'm too afraid to do so on my own without help from someone more experienced than I because I really don't want to mess up where my kit is. Hopefully I can get approved without it first and add it to the enhancement list.

Does anyone know that if you add enhancements to your armor after approval, will you have to go through the approval process again?
Title: Re: Road to Approval: Kyr'raim's Armour Construction WIP (Very Pic Heavy)
Post by: Vhekadla Yustapir on Aug 05, 2017, 06:40 PM
Well this is a bit necro , but this is my last photo spam before my submission to approval!  :laugh:

(https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/20638104_10155767761294739_6736198232333824259_n.jpg?oh=7fd09e9d0f1611b3610a109fd1dedc53&oe=59F9E043)
(https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/20597183_10155767761284739_381713158578857276_n.jpg?oh=2364c5b1f9e98b7e34e8f875750d0d8c&oe=59F0527E)
(https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/20597399_10155767761314739_2686309518575305148_n.jpg?oh=7a6ef2198e22bfcd977fd41295f66074&oe=5A368217)
(https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/20479773_10155764614464739_5905316799440984778_n.jpg?oh=39f2822b06e1acde1666a7e5a62fd211&oe=59F4239A)
(https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/20622125_10155767761339739_8989470697523917528_n.jpg?oh=93f6a0fa63b582f658ded2c928bf24f0&oe=59ED9C2D)
(https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/20525794_10155767787109739_6161783111891085550_n.jpg?oh=c024bce7f2bc784b3ad030cfd13fc7fe&oe=5A38D8E5)

(http://i.imgur.com/7cSUIYj.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/sYWlQbG.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/3OgjIVE.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/rmbhfWy.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/5F8saYv.jpg)

Title: Re: Road to Approval: Kyr'raim's Armour Construction WIP (Very Pic Heavy)
Post by: Boxception on Aug 05, 2017, 09:24 PM
First off, your kit looks great vod. The black wash looks much better. You are so close man. Everything has come together well.  I have to things that I see, keep in mind I'm not an approval member nor does my opinion matter. Your kit looks great. I love the color scheme and everything you did with it.   My only two things that pop out to me are
1.) it could be the angle but does your ab piece over lap you girth belt?  I only ask because I was pushed back for this in pre app.  i know mine can have that appearance.
2.) you blaster is dope. I love it. But it seems very clean in the photo. If you want because now your kit looks battle worn. Add some to the blaster maybe.

All in all looks great man. Be proud of your kit. I'd be honored to troop next to that. It is very very good.
Title: Re: Road to Approval: Kyr'raim's Armour Construction WIP (Very Pic Heavy)
Post by: Vhekadla Yustapir on Aug 14, 2017, 04:56 PM
Thank you ner vod! I write to you now as an official vod. I appreciate all the feedback nevertheless and I'd like to take a minute to respond to them.

1) In this photo it does slightly. Part of that was working a bit of movie magic into the shot until I put in the Velcro strip that will run around the base of the plate and the vest. This will hold the girth belt in place to avoid any chance of it overlapping the ab plate.

From what I have heard, the girth belt can not over lap the plate, it was made very clear in that manner, but I have heard nothing about the plate overlapping a portion of the girth belt. I've found that the CRL's aren't very explicit or clear on girth belt guidelines. Something I think would be a great addition and remove any chance of misunderstanding on what is expected for that piece. If I've missed where it is detailed, please feel free to point me in the right direction so I can better educate myself.

2) I love that blaster, but you were right on the money. I've been advised by the app team to add some silver weathering to it. Something I have not yet figured out how I want to approach. I was scared it would be kicked back because it's a modified longshot rifle, with chopped up pieces, reassembled, some greeblies, and gun rails that came from an old 90's laserjet printer.  :laugh:

I'm actually in the process of constructing a second rifle using nerf as a base once again, this time using a different model. I'm going to be a lot more creative with it it this time. I have some exciting ideas thanks to a greater exposure to the various weapons I have seen my vode sport.

I appreciate it ner vod. I look forward to eventually marching beside you!
Title: Re: Road to Approval: Kyr'raim's Armour Construction WIP (Very Pic Heavy)
Post by: Boxception on Aug 14, 2017, 06:25 PM
Brother your kit is awesome super inspiring you earned those kill stripes.  I will also do some follow up on the ab plate girth belt question.  Seems we could use some clarification. I too am getting new blasters so I will join you in the "improvement phase of the kit"
Title: Re: Road to Approval: Kyr'raim's Armour Construction WIP (Very Pic Heavy)
Post by: Kris Jasra on Aug 15, 2017, 05:58 AM
Ab plate can't go over the top of the girth as that shows that the plating is not shaped to your body or is loose. The girth belt can ride up a tiny bit in troops over the ab which is fine but is preferred that it be kept down and in place. Having the girth over the ab to begin with is usually a symptom of overly long torso plates which is why things are asked to be moved.

I'll give the CRL writing team a link to this so they can see about clarifying things.
Title: Re: Road to Approval: Kyr'raim's Armour Construction WIP (Very Pic Heavy)
Post by: Dha Bral on Aug 15, 2017, 06:13 AM

I'll give the CRL writing team a link to this so they can see about clarifying things.

I'm on it. Perhaps we can clear up any confusion with a CRL brush up. It will be discussed.
Title: Re: Road to Approval: Kyr'raim's Armour Construction WIP (Very Pic Heavy)
Post by: Boxception on Aug 17, 2017, 03:05 AM
Thanks for the clarification congrats again on the kill stripes vod.  As for the leadership appreciate the feedback. I don't want to give out false information to anyone especially since I'm still new.  I will be working to posting my brigade work within the ne t two weeks. I'm excited to work towards a recon build.
Title: Re: Road to Approval: Kyr'raim's Armour Construction WIP (Very Pic Heavy)
Post by: Vhekadla Yustapir on Aug 17, 2017, 09:37 AM
Ab plate can't go over the top of the girth as that shows that the plating is not shaped to your body or is loose. The girth belt can ride up a tiny bit in troops over the ab which is fine but is preferred that it be kept down and in place. Having the girth over the ab to begin with is usually a symptom of overly long torso plates which is why things are asked to be moved.

I'll give the CRL writing team a link to this so they can see about clarifying things.

Just to see if I'm processing what you've shared correctly.

Girth Belt OVER Ab Plate: A symptom of overly long torso plates which exposes a high likelihood of a potential fitting problem. It is alright for the belt to ride up a little bit during events, but it is highly preferred that it be anchored down in one manner or another.

Girth Belt UNDER Ab Plate If a girth belt is under the ab plate it's a potential issue that the plates aren't sitting flush against your body (bad shaping) and there might be some concern around the method of attachment being appropriate or secure.

What about wraps? It may just be older kits I've seen this with and the standards have long been updated, but I think I've recalled cloth wraps being common under the plate in some form or fashion, even only at the corners because of the thinness of the material makes it easy to slip under the plate no matter how it is attached (bolts, velcro, etc)

I appreciate all the work you guys do, I really appreciate the clarification.

Quote
Thanks for the clarification congrats again on the kill stripes vod.  As for the leadership appreciate the feedback. I don't want to give out false information to anyone especially since I'm still new.  I will be working to posting my brigade work within the ne t two weeks. I'm excited to work towards a recon build.

Vore entye ner vod. That's great to hear! I'm going to be shoring up some small details amongst my blaster work and upgrades. I think that I'm eventually going to go Jedi Hunter Brigade myself.
Title: Re: Road to Approval: Kyr'raim's Armour Construction WIP (Very Pic Heavy)
Post by: Kris Jasra on Aug 17, 2017, 12:06 PM
Correct on both counts.  The belt over ab we'll give some leniency for over the very bottom of the ab, especially just the corners - as said things move, but high amounts is a certain no - we've seen sash/girth's used that completely cover the ab and sit over the bottom of the chest fangs. The ab over belt is a clear no.

Ab wraps instead of ab plates are no longer in use, old pictures may still show them in albums.

Sash's used instead of girth belts are treated the same as girth belts, they may move a little in troops and that's fine, as you said, thinner materials will work under even easier than rope. But if slipping under the bottom corners a fair way instead of just a little bit happens every troop best to work on better securing the ab corners as over the top slipping is preferred to under.

We like questions, especially ones which point out something we can potentially change/improve upon and thus further help future members with.
Title: Re: Road to Approval: Kyr'raim's Armour Construction WIP (Very Pic Heavy)
Post by: Boxception on Aug 18, 2017, 12:24 AM
Again thanks for the clarification. This will help me moving forward in directing others on kit improvement. I think Kyr'raim's kit is amazing. I seriously love it. Such amazing skill and care was put into the beast mode costume. I hope you do go for jedi hunter brigade. Im currently finishing up my jet pack and my accessories for Recon Brigade. There are not many recon mandos so I figured Id bring that area some new blood. Hope to meet you one day in person. Your kit is fantastic and hopefully one day we can get a good photo op looking good....its kinda what we do.
Title: Re: Vhekadla Yustapir's Upgrade Construction Fjord: MKIII & Additions
Post by: Vhekadla Yustapir on Sep 20, 2017, 06:10 PM
Thank you vod! I really do appreciate it, even if I still have quite a bit to do before I feel that I am where I should be. I echo your sentiment, I don't make it out to California easily, haha. With that said though, let us begin the next stage of the journey. I bring you MKIII upgrades and additions as I both improve on my current kit and redesign certain aspects of it to be more sturdy, increase it's durability and fitting, and add more bits that are closer to the idea of a Jedi Hunter design. 

Warning: this post will undergo several iterations of edits over the next couple of days. :)

Targeted areas of improvement:

Helmet
Addition of Rangefinder Kit - Commissioned from Lonewolf Customs

Upper Body Changes

Bicep Plates Additions and Development
In keeping with my desire to push my kit over the medium category and into the heavy category,  I designed a set of slip on bicep plates. While they are functional as they appear right now, they are not yet complete.

Kama and Belt MKIII Development
--Section Pending Photos and Resources--

Knee Plate - MK II Upgrade
This is a must for this build because at this point I'm extremely annoyed at my attachment method and spacing for my knees. It is still incredibly inconsistent whether or not they will have good spacing. It's either perfect or can completely ruin a shot for the ocd and PR purposes. Case in point:

(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/21688431_10155922016309739_3094644651320437815_o.jpg?oh=fb76bcbb000f21037c8062f814aa4775&oe=5A508A79)


--Images Coming Soon--

Lower Leg
Title: Re: Vhekadla Yustapir's Upgrade Construction Fjord: MKIII & Additions
Post by: Kol Varek on Sep 21, 2017, 05:24 PM
Night and day brother, your kit has come a long way! Well done and congratulations, those kill stripes were well earned!
Title: Re: Vhekadla Yustapir's Upgrade Construction Fjord: MKIII & Additions
Post by: Vhekadla Yustapir on Sep 26, 2017, 02:54 PM
Thank you vod! I appreciate it!

I am now unveiling the blueprint for my  planned shoulder upgrades, armor pieces only.

(https://i.imgur.com/Q9QkLI9.jpg)

I think my biggest concern is that as I add upgrades and additions to my kit, at what point would someone point and say, resubmit, because your design is drastically different than submission? As long as the base of my kit remains the same and I keep posting my progress to receive feedback I should be okay right?
Title: Re: Vhekadla Yustapir's Upgrade Construction Fjord: MKIII & Additions
Post by: Kris Jasra on Sep 26, 2017, 04:36 PM
If you change era you must resubmit as it is a new character and kit. (Era refers to the CRL grouping - Legacy, Fett, Katan, Wren etc are all Modern)

If you change anything and remain in the same era you must show the changes to your Ruus'alor if you are in a clan or to your Ruus'sol if you are in a stronghold.
They will then approve it, deny it with suggestions on how to fit it to the CRLs or they will tell you to resubmit a full app. If you haven't had any upgrades seen by your Ruus'alor then you will be considered out of compliance when trooping if you wear upgraded parts.
I will as an example say that in a full year I've only had 2 people go back to a full resubmit and that was due to literally overhauling everything to go Brigades. In a clan of over 50 that's a lot of upgrades on the others that we've passed without having to swamp the app team with kits with small changes.
Title: Re: Vhekadla Yustapir's Upgrade Construction Fjord: MKIII & Additions
Post by: Vhekadla Yustapir on Sep 27, 2017, 01:33 PM
Thank you for the information Kris!

Here's a 3-D mock up of my 2-D shoulder design, with and without canisters.

(https://i.imgur.com/7OZAIvs.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/e2AJHGO.jpg)

And my bootplates frustratingly broke last night so I scrambled to repair it to match my new spats. Still drying and WIP.

(https://i.imgur.com/jbsL1WA.jpg)
Title: Re: Vhekadla Yustapir's Upgrade Construction Fjord: MKIII & Additions
Post by: Kol Varek on Sep 27, 2017, 01:56 PM
Ugh, I was never able to get boot plates to work, didn't want to be worrying about them with every step. I'll keep an eye on your solution.
Title: Re: Vhekadla Yustapir's Upgrade Construction Fjord: MKIII & Additions
Post by: Vhekadla Yustapir on Sep 27, 2017, 02:15 PM
My original solution was elastic on the backs of the wings on the plates, something you will notice is missing right now and Velcro on the front. It's was greatly frustrating always regluing those. I used a simple cloth spat previously with Velcro on the back but scrapped it in favor of these Swiss WWI spats.

Since the wings didn't work for those, and one broke off anyway; I snapped them off, cut my plates in half, bolted the upper half to the spat and attached the lower plate using bridge plates and a lot of e6000.

Title: Re: Vhekadla Yustapir's Upgrade Construction Fjord: MKIII & Additions
Post by: ShadowRex on Sep 30, 2017, 08:23 AM
Clan Naast Russ' checking in: Kyr'ika's has kept myself and our other Russ' alor alerted that he was planning to upgrade. I, for one, am delighted that he's listed so much detail out.

Being pulled away for AM chores and errands. I plan to review this evening.

Cheers!
Title: Re: Vhekadla Yustapir's Upgrade Construction Fjord: MKIII & Additions
Post by: Vhekadla Yustapir on Sep 30, 2017, 09:14 AM
Thank you Mama Rex!

Continuing on some of my updates, I've got my rangefinder! I'm going to finish putting that together this evening.

(https://i.imgur.com/9A089Wt.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/MdNwYXb.jpg)

WIP on my adjusted bootplates. They're actually finished and weathered but I forgot to take a shot of them before I left this morning.

They sit more flush against my boot with little need for the old Velcro to the boot craziness I was doing before.

(https://i.imgur.com/EPfb49O.jpg)

Last but not least, we shaped the lorica last night. I'll shape the rest of the plates against these as base tonight now that the hard part is done.

(https://i.imgur.com/4jc1PFP.jpg)

Backplate is done from a sizing perspective, a little black wash and approval and I can think about cut my cape in half to expose my back.  :)
Title: Re: Vhekadla Yustapir's Upgrade Construction Fjord: MKIII & Additions
Post by: Myra Tiin on Sep 30, 2017, 09:37 AM
That's a good looking backplate !

Your kit already looks good, and the amount of details you're putting in makes it stand out even more.
Greeblies everywhere !
Title: Re: Vhekadla Yustapir's Upgrade Construction Fjord: MKIII & Additions
Post by: Vhekadla Yustapir on Oct 01, 2017, 01:09 PM
Thank you Myra! I like to think of my armor as an agile project. I'm on the next sprint right now.

I've finished installing my rangefinder. It's pretty basic, no servos, lights or anything blingy like that but I think it adds to the overall look of the kit.

(https://i.imgur.com/JoDW8x1.jpg)

Boots are complete.

(https://i.imgur.com/XSVi7OH.jpg)

I also decided to finally stop needing to reweather my flightsuit every time I washed it because I used organic dirt and water application. I finally decided to play around with misting and applied a quad tone to my flight suit where it might be exposed and to cape to match.

The lighting is bad to really show the impact but it looks really similar to the effects I was gettin previously just with better terrain colors.

(https://i.imgur.com/aC4Ei4d.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/st0i0M1.jpg)

Progress on the lorica is going well. When you run out of clamps you improvise!

(https://i.imgur.com/Y5RfHIZ.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/00ddUew.jpg)

When I get back from traveling this week, I'm going to finish applying the detail to my backplate and blackwash it, then cut my cape in two for my next two troops this coming Friday and Saturday.

The lorica are unlikely to be done in time for next weekend.   :'(
Title: Re: Vhekadla Yustapir's Upgrade Construction Fjord: MKIII & Additions
Post by: Vhekadla Yustapir on Oct 24, 2020, 06:49 PM
Well, I have not posted in here in a hot minute! Time to fix that. Not sure where to begin. A lot has happened since I last posted! I guess for starters I should show what my kit looks like these days before getting into updates. These are four of my favorite shots.

(https://i.imgur.com/rzgxmE5.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/nPenEte.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/bKF4OiR.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/4HRTPVJ.jpg)

That said the biggest change so far is that I am no longer based in Georgia, but in Southeast Texas, and of course *glances at title*, that.  :laugh:

I am reviving this thread because during my farewell troop to my home state I took quite a bit of damage. Not enough that isn't an easy fix, but the patchwork would keep breaking down so its time for me to start replacing and updating pieces of my kit. Which means...Brigade!!! I've got quite a lot of work to do, so I am working on mainly repairing needed pieces and checking the boxes as I go. Good news is I have my old pieces and going to keep them so I can keep trooping when...well whenever we can finally troop again. It's agony not being able to wear my second skin.  :'( :'( :'(

I'll have to go type up my upgrade list and paste it hear soon. Here's a few teases in the mean time!

Full Body Manniquen. Let me tell you this was...an experience.  :laugh:

(https://i.imgur.com/cVGUrZM.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/uovgiGe.jpg)

Desigining and upgrading my lower half. Still a WIP, but after two knees which have snapped in half or cracked 6 times, been repaired and reinforced, and now the bottom lip of one shattered, I think these can be retired for a new set, lol. While I am at it I am working on a full wrap around shin plate with Jet boot on it. I'm about half-way done with constructing the base piece. Now I need to work on the sides/back. I decided to aim for an interlocking design concept for appearance even through the plates will never touch.

I'm nowhere near done, but as always, I am following my soul.  ;)

(https://i.imgur.com/pladW9H.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/9zN3t3p.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/qlcOLB5.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/bvJUoz7.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/0weZl8K.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/ASFpREf.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/EB0tvPu.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/XzKxeGI.jpg)

Pic Heavy post and I'm being lazy about the formatting right now because I'm tired, haha. I'll post the full status list like the old days and get back to my detailed self. I'm also using imgur now so no more broken links! I learned my lesson!
Title: Re: Vhekadla Yustapir's Upgrade Construction Fjord: MKIII & Additions
Post by: Kol Varek on Oct 25, 2020, 01:36 AM
Dang man, you are going all out! (nothing new there  ;)), good to see you back at it!
Title: Re: Vhekadla Yustapir's Upgrade Construction Fjord: MKIII & Additions
Post by: Vhekadla Yustapir on Nov 07, 2020, 07:26 PM
Dang man, you are going all out! (nothing new there  ;)), good to see you back at it!

Thank you ner vod! It's a weakness of mine,  :laugh: Alright, time to try to put together this plan. Odds are it's going to need many edits to get this post right as my BBcode is a bit rusty as far as formatting is concerned. As I write this, my lovely partner Kara,  :<3:,  is helping me sketch up some of these plans so I can get all the designs, pre-and post in here. She started an arms race with her design. I'm super excited to work on that too. COVID has me a pent up mess,  :porg2:, and I REALLY need to spend more time in the workshop. I've never missed my second skin so much, nor realized how important it had become to my mental health.  :vizsla:

Now the goal of this update is two fold, and will likely end up with me re-apping regardless as I am going for brigade, and I am keeping the Ruus'sol up to date on these plans as well because I am probably going to end up surpassing the 50% mark, even with the fact that my color scheme is NOT changing and that the core chest area will not be a targeted update. "This Time". Good news is I am keeping my old pieces so I can still troop, sometime eventually with some smack dab repairs as I have for the past year before I "broke". Secondary aim is to finally incorporate the elements of nordic/arctica/taiga inspired design while improving the appearance and photogenetics of the kit by streamlining the concept. (It may be a lost cause, but I'd like to try.)

Still debating on just getting an oxygen tank and hooking up my own personal air circulation system to my kit, cost be kriffed. Don't judge me, yes, I'm that desperate right now.
:porg2:
HELP                              HELP                              HELP                              HELP                              HELP                            HELP                              HELP                              HELP                              HELP                              HELP                               
:porg2:

"Deep Breath" NOVEL TIME!

Brigade Aspirations:

Helmet
So starting with the helmet. This is likely the last one I will update but it is in desperate need of replacement. It was already a B pull from NME to begin with, but now the helmet integrity is shot and the warp got really bad over time and use. It looks like I got punched in the face by a wookie. The T visor is at an angle, the visor snaps are crumbling or missing, and the inside of the visor is held by tape and a prayer. But kriff if i still don't love the design. That said, I'm not planning on another NME. I have a particular helmet in mind and I just emailed today Storm Seeker Studios because I fell in love with a helmet that looks like a tankier and better sized version of my current helmet with attachments and enough room for modification I can make it truly something that speaks to me and my kit. Probably going to be a wait for this though, they seem to rotate their buckets and I might have to wait for this run to get the one I'm hoping for. :kiss:  :laugh: For now I'm going to have it in the mock-up we're working on art wise.


Chest

Upper Body, Back, & Shoulders



[/list][/list][/list] - These won't go away REEEEEE BBCODE REEEEE

Kama, Belt, Girth, and Cod - UPDATING RIGHT NOW. SAVE POINT FIX

Arms - Upper Body



Thighs & More


[/list]
Title: Re: Vhekadla Yustapir's Upgrade Construction Fjord: MKIII & Additions
Post by: Vhekadla Yustapir on Apr 12, 2021, 10:54 AM
I'm remembering how paralyzing lists are. So here's a concept of some of the changes in plan. The back shot is extremely rough in concept as are the guantlets take it with a grain of salt, we're still sketching this out and not much is actually changing beyond the harness. Yes I'm flirting with actually a Re-App but I'm going for brigade anyway so...we'll cross that bridge if/when we get there. My Ruus'sol knows each of these steps. No paint or color scheme change.

Front
(https://i.imgur.com/tBHDMnE.png)

Back
(https://i.imgur.com/TdRDnFO.png)

I've been doing a lot of leatherworking tutorials and am nearly ready to give it a shot. I broke this into passes to avoid workshop paralysis. I tried to keep things to sections and those which are connected/reliant on each other.

1st Pass priorities: Spaulders Redesign, Shoulder Bells Redesign, Chest Box/Chest & Belt Rigging, Girthbelt/Kama, Cape. Helmet?
2nd Pass Priorities: Flightsuit Patching (Developed some holes), Knees, Shins, Thigh Touch-up.
3rd Pass Priorities: Bicep Armor, Boot Armor, Gloves/Glove Armor, Neck Armor, Backplate
Final Pass: Arm Gauntlets Patching. Arm Gauntlet Redesign.

Helmet Update: This is largely on me as I have been shy about reaching out to the maker individually on the forum as they do single runs. I tried email to their business, but didn't get a response. Again on me for cold-calling. I'm considering the nuclear option on my helmet and doing structural manipulation but I am terrified. It needs a LOT of work I'm still not sure how to reinforce and fix.

What I have and you can see the issue:
 (https://i.imgur.com/psXiSxN.jpg)

What I want:
(https://i.imgur.com/NhiAwXf.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/rwDlLsP.png)

Insert handholding male here with helmet images overlaid.

Shoulder Bell Progress
(https://i.imgur.com/hxfjmYu.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/8AcEPC8.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/6e8yssO.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/wYL6qKP.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/rkiZvtO.jpg)
Title: Re: Vhekadla Yustapir's Upgrade Construction Fjord: MKIII & Additions
Post by: Vhekadla Yustapir on May 03, 2021, 11:44 AM
Well I've made a bit of progress since my last post! Was extremely excited to finally host an in person armor party out of my garage. Got two recruits in there, and one just submitted for approval. He passed Regional Pre-App, so fingers crossed.

Anyway, on to my updates. I bled a little bit into the 2nd pass because soft parts are intimidating and I'm still figuring out what I'm doing with my leather pieces. so with that I have done some work on the shin design, cleaned up the new shins a bit and started the cut out of the back. Full encasement is a lot more difficult than I expected.

Workshop Set-Up:
(https://i.imgur.com/y2vC1Db.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/zw6UiF5.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/MApZecu.jpg)

Shoulder Progress:
(https://i.imgur.com/YYuelQO.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/QXlgaSv.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/nBmmiyH.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/8mC1h0e.jpg)

Knees: They look like tie-fighters, lmao
(https://i.imgur.com/aytR35A.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/PRytOoF.jpg)

Knee Darts: Still need to be painted, hide the serial number, and drill out the center of the dart holes themselves, but I love these.
(https://i.imgur.com/PNaRgxC.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/gQpugGz.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/SUWxqWQ.jpg)

Boot: Teaser
(https://i.imgur.com/2sbmdsp.jpg)
Title: Re: Vhekadla Yustapir's Upgrade Construction Fjord: MKIII & Additions
Post by: Fenn Beviin on May 03, 2021, 01:22 PM
I like what you are doing with the "trauma" plating along with the recessed grooves you have cut in the plates.

Honestly the shoulders kind of remind me of Noble 1 shoulder armor while still being "Mando" and I love it.

Also that is quite the workshop you have there!
Title: Re: Vhekadla Yustapir's Upgrade Construction Fjord: MKIII & Additions
Post by: Vhekadla Yustapir on May 03, 2021, 02:13 PM
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Also that is quite the workshop you have there!

Thank you! I love the fact it is quick to set-up/tear down as it is for an apartment garage.  :laugh:

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I like what you are doing with the "trauma" plating along with the recessed grooves you have cut in the plates.

Honestly the shoulders kind of remind me of Noble 1 shoulder armor while still being "Mando" and I love it.

I never would have made that connection and I used to play that all the time.  :o :laugh: My acting strategy is to move more closely in line with my thigh plate design. It was always pointed at as the hallmark of my kit when I got approved, so I'm trying to lend more pieces of the armor to a similar/advanced design to bring more of it into the same "theme" as I work towards Brigade.
Title: Re: Vhekadla Yustapir's Upgrade Construction Fjord: MKIII & Additions
Post by: Fenn Beviin on May 03, 2021, 02:36 PM
Clever with the workshop!

And no you can't unsee it lol so you're welcome.

My only 2 cents on your build would be your knee dart stuff - I feel like those doo-dads you have currently might be too heavy to be on knee armor which might make keeping them in place difficult. Have you mocked those up yet by taping them to your knee armor and seeing how heavy they are?
Title: Re: Vhekadla Yustapir's Upgrade Construction Fjord: MKIII & Additions
Post by: Vhekadla Yustapir on May 03, 2021, 02:47 PM
Good point. I have not yet, but I will before I mount them. The knees as they are are similarly sized but lighter than my older ones. I didn't put as much sintra on the outside as the boba style so the weight should be about the equivalent if not better equipped to stay in place.

My old knees have flightsuit matching elastic in the back and velcro on the knee and back of plate which held them in place. That did work well even with the weight which got heavier because they snapped 4-6 times in their lifespan and I reinforced with more sintra. :laugh:
Title: Re: Vhekadla Yustapir's Upgrade Construction Fjord: MKIII & Additions
Post by: Vhekadla Yustapir on May 14, 2021, 01:56 PM
Still need to do the detail painting (mostly blacks and golds to bring out the details) and blackwash, but these pieces are about done! I'm excited the detail is going to make them pop.

(https://i.imgur.com/OuIBEwn.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Bf1bFIg.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/puzWcrT.jpg)