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 Are the 'cheek concaves' needed?

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Are the 'cheek concaves' needed?
« on: Sep 15, 2018, 07:04 PM »
For a modern build, I know we need the T visor and typical/standard shape, but is there anything different that can be done for the cheeks?
For example, there's been some mandalorian helms that were rounded up front (most of them though are from the old republic era).

I'm building my helmet out of a construction hard hat and sintra, but I'm having some real difficulty figuring out how to get the concave cheeks to shape/line up properly.  Just looking for ways around that.

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Re: Are the 'cheek concaves' needed?
« Reply #1 on: Sep 15, 2018, 07:33 PM »
The cheeks are the hardest part of a scratch build.  You could look at sabines helmet for inspiration.  If the rest of the bucket is fairly standard, you could get away with something like hers.

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Re: Are the 'cheek concaves' needed?
« Reply #2 on: Sep 15, 2018, 08:30 PM »
Have you taken a look at the templates that are provided here I believe the are from WOF and the template is pretty self explanatory. You have to cut out the cheek arch and then use a two part design to create the proper look. I can't speak from experience yet as I haven't gotten that far on my scratch build.

You could also square them like in the NME Assassin which would eliminate some of the shaping and bending required for the curving of the traditional cheeks

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Re: Are the 'cheek concaves' needed?
« Reply #3 on: Sep 20, 2018, 04:10 AM »
A barrel of patience. A steady hand. And a helping of taking ones time. Iíve done cheeks out of 6mm sintra and was ready to pull my hair out but that was a long time ago way back at the beginning of my 20+ scratchbuild and over 100 resin cast helmets. I am a firm believer of Apoxie sculpt to help back cheeks at the seams and to even smooth them out. However to answer your question. Modern design without the full cheeks is legacy style. However... thereís one legacy helmet that Iíve seen that was beautiful as he added the cheeks.

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Re: Are the 'cheek concaves' needed?
« Reply #4 on: Sep 24, 2018, 01:19 PM »
The cheeks are a total pain in the shebs Vod. Patience plus trial and error is what it takes to get them right. I had to redo the shaping on mine a few times before I was happy. Lots of bondo and sanding.

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Re: Are the 'cheek concaves' needed?
« Reply #5 on: Sep 25, 2018, 12:24 AM »
Unless you're doing a legacy helmet, I do believe you need cheeks.

If you're having trouble with the cheeks, might I suggest trying out night-owl style cheeks?  They look like they'd be easier to do than standard cheeks.

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Re: Are the 'cheek concaves' needed?
« Reply #6 on: Sep 25, 2018, 10:16 AM »
I've seen successful usage of the Homer bucket curve turned inside out to make cheeks.

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Re: Are the 'cheek concaves' needed?
« Reply #7 on: Sep 25, 2018, 10:56 PM »
I've seen successful usage of the Homer bucket curve turned inside out to make cheeks.
That is a tried and tested way to do them and people can get much faster results that way without all of the troubles of sintra and other methods.

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