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 Navik Sh'vaah - Mandalorian Warden

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Navik Sh'vaah - Mandalorian Warden
« on: Mar 10, 2016, 03:58 PM »
Hiiiiiiiii~. I'm making a new thread because ideally, this will be a new kit. I ditched the idea of just redoing Akiva's kit and keeping the same character because I wanna try something new! New being a half-Zabrak Mandalorian, because I'd like to play a little with prosthetics. I call it the Mandalorian Jailer because the idea of having stun batons and a whip instead of blasters, for some reason, is giving me a jailer vibe (blame all the Supergirl I've been watching, and that one villain's nifty chain things).

I still need to line and color the sketch I made a few days ago, but I wanted to get this thread posted because I have some questions, and I wanna jot down the ideas here.

The ideas:
Color-shifting paint-- particular the violet dreams mystic from Alsa. This is brought over from the old Phantom reboot thread, because I still wanna use it.
Stun batons-- I was looking throughhttp://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/index.php?topic=103999.msg1520279#msg1520279 and fell in love with Roe Montar's stun batons.
Neuronic whip-- I know it'll be hard to make it look separate from a light whip.. but who doesn't love a good challenge~?

My big question, though, is this:

Is the Medium NME Stalker helmet going to be too big for someone who currently uses a Rubies 2-piece Jango, and stands at 5'1.5"? I'd really love to be able to use it, but only if I don't look ridiculously undersized while wearing it, haha!

I'll post some pics eventually with the kit sketches.

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Re: Navik Sh'vaah - Mandalorian Jailer(???)
« Reply #1 on: Mar 10, 2016, 04:26 PM »
I just have one idea for you. Extending taser gauntlets  ;D

Basically like a gauntlet with a retractable vibroblade, but with an electronic emitter assembly at the end for zapping poor saps who piss you off lol and I'm going for a stalker as well, I have a fairly normal-sized head and I'm going for a large I believe

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Re: Navik Sh'vaah - Mandalorian Jailer(???)
« Reply #2 on: Mar 10, 2016, 04:34 PM »
I just have one idea for you. Extending taser gauntlets  ;D

Basically like a gauntlet with a retractable vibroblade, but with an electronic emitter assembly at the end for zapping poor saps who piss you off lol and I'm going for a stalker as well, I have a fairly normal-sized head and I'm going for a large I believe

I LIKE IT. I was considering having some sort of thicker gauntlet on one hand for punches, but I never thought of a -taser- gauntlet... do you have any examples of what it might look like, or things similar to it?

How tall are you though? I can provide measurements for my noggin if it'd help people. 21.5" inches around, 11.25" from back of the head to forehead, ~10.5" from top of the head to chin. Not sure what other measurements might be necessary, but with that, and my height in mind, I'm still not sure if the NME Stalker Medium is too big.

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Re: Navik Sh'vaah - Mandalorian Jailer(???)
« Reply #3 on: Mar 10, 2016, 06:53 PM »
Sure lol I'll see if I can post a quick sketch tonight. It's been a busy design week for me  :laugh:

I'm just shy of 5' 6", so odds are my head is slightly bigger than yours but not ridiculously so. Don't have a tape measure on me at the moment. And I've heard slightly bigger is usually better for helmets, in case you want to mod for fans and electronics and such. A rule of thumb I've also heard is the helmet base width should be around half the width of your shoulders, but that's just a guesstimate

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Re: Navik Sh'vaah - Mandalorian Jailer(???)
« Reply #4 on: Mar 14, 2016, 05:11 PM »
Gonna aim for getting some pics up tonight! Gonna line and color my armor design, as well as run some rudimentary colors over the pictures from NME Props website since I reaaaaaally wanna try the stalker helmet, rofl.

Also probably gonna make some close-up drawings of the stun batons, the whip, knife, and maybe that taser gaunt you mentioned Verco :DD

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Re: Navik Sh'vaah - Mandalorian Jailer(???)
« Reply #5 on: Mar 14, 2016, 05:54 PM »
Nice! Sorry I didn't get any sketches up, it's been a busy week but now that I'm on spring break I'll have more time to do stuff  :P

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Re: Navik Sh'vaah - Mandalorian Jailer(???)
« Reply #6 on: Mar 14, 2016, 10:58 PM »
No worries! I have some pics to upload myself at any rate. I did color over the NME Stalker helmet (just pulled it right off the site) and I do like this particular color set up:



The purple/green is the color-shifting paint, black is black, and grey is the ghost chrome, all from Alsa Corp. Visor will be black or dark green.



And that's the sketch I'm currently coloring. One thing I have trouble with is coming up with interesting patterns for the color. I'm also not sure what color to make the flak vest (under armor is black). Thinking dark purple or maybe dark green atm, or dark grey. One of those three, just so there's a break from the black.

Also that sketch doesn't have any taser gauntlet concept, rofl. Drew this before I made this thread.

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Re: Navik Sh'vaah - Mandalorian Jailer(???)
« Reply #7 on: Mar 14, 2016, 11:26 PM »
Nice bucket concept, almost looks like you have extra armor plates bolted right onto the helmet face. Me gusta  ;D with the color-shifting purple, and the blacks and grays, I would do a very dark green. As dark as you can get without being black

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Re: Navik Sh'vaah - Mandalorian Jailer(???)
« Reply #8 on: Mar 14, 2016, 11:30 PM »
Nice bucket concept, almost looks like you have extra armor plates bolted right onto the helmet face. Me gusta  ;D with the color-shifting purple, and the blacks and grays, I would do a very dark green. As dark as you can get without being black
Thanks! Although those are supposed to be highlights on the black paint. XD I'm working on throwing down colors on the armor itself to try and match the theme, BUT MAN COLOR BLOCKING IS HARD.

And I'm leaning towards dark green myself. But for now comes the sleeps!

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Re: Navik Sh'vaah - Mandalorian Jailer(???)
« Reply #9 on: Mar 15, 2016, 07:42 AM »
Haha I just copy images to Notability on my old iPad, then doodle over them with my finger, Much simpler  ;D

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Re: Navik Sh'vaah - Mandalorian Jailer(???)
« Reply #10 on: Mar 15, 2016, 12:04 PM »
Haha I just copy images to Notability on my old iPad, then doodle over them with my finger, Much simpler  ;D

I plop 'em into SAI and color that way. But I mean the actual figuring out where colors should go and in what design. XD For some reason my brain just shuts down and comes up with the stupidest ideas possible, rofl. I did have something I made last night that I'm liking so far, might work on it more today.

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Re: Navik Sh'vaah - Mandalorian Jailer(???)
« Reply #11 on: Mar 15, 2016, 01:38 PM »
Here we are at long last. Sorry for the REALLY rough sketch, but I drew this up in like a couple minutes.



Basically two electrodes on an extending "blade," some external power cables and power cells, and voila. Taser gaunts  ;D

Let me know what you think!

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« Reply #12 on: Mar 15, 2016, 02:13 PM »
Posting to see progress of this build. Curious to see the colour shifting paint. Haven't seen it used yet. Is it a single coat application, or multiple layers?

Watching this thread with intrest!

Oya vod!

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Re: Navik Sh'vaah - Mandalorian Jailer(???)
« Reply #13 on: Mar 15, 2016, 03:08 PM »
Here we are at long last. Sorry for the REALLY rough sketch, but I drew this up in like a couple minutes.



Basically two electrodes on an extending "blade," some external power cables and power cells, and voila. Taser gaunts  ;D

Let me know what you think!
I like it! It was different than the concept I was thinking (which was more along the lines of Black Widow-style gauntlets). My only concern is the spring-- even if nothing is coming loose, I'd have to ask the approval team if something like that would be feasible.

Posting to see progress of this build. Curious to see the colour shifting paint. Haven't seen it used yet. Is it a single coat application, or multiple layers?

Watching this thread with intrest!

Oya vod!
I've seen it used on a couple kits-- only one that's used Alsa Corp, and they used Prizmacoat. Others have used color-shifting paints from Rustoleum and maybe another brand. As far as application, I'd have to check the site-- I'd imagine it'd take a couple coats to get a good, opaque finish.

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« Reply #14 on: Mar 15, 2016, 03:23 PM »
I've seen it used on a couple kits-- only one that's used Alsa Corp, and they used Prizmacoat. Others have used color-shifting paints from Rustoleum and maybe another brand. As far as application, I'd have to check the site-- I'd imagine it'd take a couple coats to get a good, opaque finish.

Good to know! I am already looking to my next kit, and trying to muster ideas and get some ground work done in preparation. Thanks a bunch!

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Re: Navik Sh'vaah - Mandalorian Jailer(???)
« Reply #15 on: Mar 15, 2016, 03:40 PM »
I wouldn't make it spring-loaded, just retractable. A thumbscrew or something similar to keep it open or closed would probably be enough. They weren't overly fond of my break-action rifle springs and that barely passed "inspection," so I don't think making it spring-loaded would pass  :P

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Re: Navik Sh'vaah - Mandalorian Jailer(???)
« Reply #16 on: Mar 15, 2016, 04:22 PM »
Good to know! I am already looking to my next kit, and trying to muster ideas and get some ground work done in preparation. Thanks a bunch!

Alsa Corp has a lot of fun paints-- only some of them are available in spray-can form though, if you're lazy like me and want to only use what can be found in a spray-can! And anytime!

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Re: Navik Sh'vaah - Mandalorian Jailer(???)
« Reply #17 on: Mar 15, 2016, 04:23 PM »
I wouldn't make it spring-loaded, just retractable. A thumbscrew or something similar to keep it open or closed would probably be enough. They weren't overly fond of my break-action rifle springs and that barely passed "inspection," so I don't think making it spring-loaded would pass  :P

That'd work a lot better I'd imagine. Also your design is a bit simpler than mine, as mine had the taser needles/points on the knuckles (again, more Black Widow style), but I was struggling to come up with a way to have the gauntlet go over the wrist while still giving me maximum mobility, so I think I'll play around with your idea instead, since it's just a typical wrist gaunt. Thanks!

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Re: Navik Sh'vaah - Mandalorian Jailer(???)
« Reply #18 on: Mar 15, 2016, 04:25 PM »
No problem, the design is going to take a little refining but I'm sure you can make it work!

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Re: Navik Sh'vaah - Mandalorian Jailer(???)
« Reply #19 on: Mar 15, 2016, 09:13 PM »
So I redid the design on the armor and.. WHOAH. I really, REALLY dig it. It looks super segmented to me, which I like. I just took the design from the helmet and patterned it onto the armor.



Will draw up separate plans for the weapons, since they're all very hard to see and not the focus here. May include a half-cape around one of the shoulders, removable of course, in the same color as the loincloth.

... And crap, I forgot to show the backplate. Ahahaha. I'll do that.. later. YEAH. Later. >>

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« Reply #20 on: Mar 15, 2016, 09:20 PM »
Sweet mother of Keldabe, that is frightening lol remind me to never get tossed in the pokey in YOUR precinct...

Amazing work so far, vod! Another quick suggestion I have is that every jailer needs a ring of keys... Maybe some lit-up swarzy-looking pass cards or code cylinders/identity chips?

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Re: Navik Sh'vaah - Mandalorian Jailer(???)
« Reply #21 on: Mar 15, 2016, 09:34 PM »
Sweet mother of Keldabe, that is frightening lol remind me to never get tossed in the pokey in YOUR precinct...

Amazing work so far, vod! Another quick suggestion I have is that every jailer needs a ring of keys... Maybe some lit-up swarzy-looking pass cards or code cylinders/identity chips?

Heeeeeeeehehehe thanks 8D I'm really pleased with this. Now if only I weren't a wee little 5'1.5" I'd actually be intimidating!

And a ring of keycards, that's a good idea! I do have those three cylinders on my belt that I wasn't sure what to do with (two of those pouches will be for holding phone and wallet), so maybe I can do something with that...

I've also drawn up rough sketches of the stun baton model (based on the thread I found them in), the neuronic whip, and the taser-gaunt. At present I'm struggling to make the gaunt SW-sy and greebed out enough. The other gauntlet is a comm gauntlet which I've had plans drawn up for for practically forever. Got some good greebs for it. HM.

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Re: Navik Sh'vaah - Mandalorian Jailer(???)
« Reply #22 on: Mar 15, 2016, 09:47 PM »
That's a beautiful design.  And, as Yoda says, "size matters not."  You may be small, but you're mighty.   ;D

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« Reply #23 on: Mar 15, 2016, 09:47 PM »
That's a beautiful design.  And, as Yoda says, "size matters not."  You may be small, but you're mighty.   ;D

Thank you! And doggone right! :DDD I'm closer to their kidneys than they think...

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« Reply #24 on: Mar 15, 2016, 09:49 PM »
Haha height has nothing to do with it, you can still be plenty scary. My one friend is barely five feet tall and a hundred pounds soaking wet, and she can still be a living nightmare if you piss her off  :laugh: And I'm a guy and barely 5'6", so I'm still a lot shorter than most people. I can just jump high enough to side-kick 'em in the face if they remind me of it too much  :P

Can't wait to see those stun-batons, I'm interested to see what you've got in mind for them.

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