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Female Armor Resource Board (2016)
« on: May 10, 2016, 12:19 AM »
General overview

Hello fellow Female Mandos! Welcome to the updated Female Reference Board/Thread/Thing! We have here a collection of all things pretty and deadly to help you become the most awesome femmando you can be!

If you're new to the forums, you can check out The introduction board and get to know the mercs a bit. If you're new to armoring, you can check out the Cotume Tutorial Section for a lot of great information about all sorts of things.

In this thread you will find information about:
Soft Parts
Armor
Chest Armor (Just for us ladies!)
Helmets <Coming soon!>
Canon/Legend Kits
Inspiration
How-to's
General sewing help
Misc- all the helpful hints, tips and traide secrets to being a pretty and deadly femmando found here
Costume Requirments

Happy costuming!
~ Aria






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Re: Female Armor Resource Board (2016) Armor
« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2016, 12:20 AM »
Armor  ;D
Chest armor section can be found here. This section is for all other plates.

There are many ways to make armor, but let me start with some tips that you will need to know:
  • All women are shaped differently. Keep your body in mind when choosing your armor design and what will be comfortable and pretty for you.
  • You may need to alter your armor concept as you go along as you find out what works for you and what does not.
  • The basics of armor making are the same the mercs over, so don't be afraid to wander into the other areas of the forum to get ideas on how other people built their kits.
  • Don't be afraid to ask for help when you need it!

Design

While certainty not required, most all mandos start with a sketch or concept art of their kit before they begin work. It helps map out the direction for your build, decide what style of plates you want, pick colors and give you a guideline to start with.

If you're like me and you are not the greatest of artists, you have the wonderful Pam to thank for this tool. While it doesn't have all the options, it does give you a great start for kit ideas and models.

Mando Maker!!


Another option that can be recommended is to take a photos of yourself in darker, tight fitting clothes against a bright background, then put the photo up against a bright screen (a computer would probably work best) and tracing the photo out onto paper, then draw your armor designs on that. The design will then be using your figure, and will be easier to translate into s template and later plates without leaving huge gaps between plates.

The Basics of Plates and plate sizing

First of all, I highly suggest familiarizing yourself with the Costume Requirements List, which can be found here. This will be your guidelines for all Mandalorian armor - custom, standard or alien. Remember that you must build your armor inside these guidelines to be approved as a member of the MMCC by the Application team.
The CRLs are different for each build era, but in this thread we will focus on Modern builds.

Even if you don't want to make male looking armor, male templates are an excellent starting point from which to template your own custom armor. They come in the standard sizes and shapes from which you can add or subtract to make your own. They are an especially good guideline if you have no idea where to start.

Plate sizing can be one of the most difficult parts of the builds. Remember to cut your plates slightly larger then you think you will need...it's easier to cut them down then to add to them.

Starting a WIP (Work in progress) thread and posting pictures of your templates being tried on before you cut is a great way to get help and feed back from other mandos. WIP threads are visible to anyone who is a member of the MMCC forum, so they can be seen at both a clan and club level.
I would personally encourage you to start two WIP threads, one in the main boards and one on your home clan board. Use one of them as your main build thread and keep the other one updated with your major progress reports. This enables your clan officers and members to be able to keep up to date on your progress and help you out a little closer to home. ~Aira

Many of us have found that having dress dummy made of ourselves is extremely helpful for trying plates on and adjusting them without having to wear them. Its gives you a “life model” of yourself to draw plate shapes straight onto, which you can then cut out and translate to cardstock or paper, and ultimately, to your armor plates. They also help as a way to test fit your armor (to a point) if you have no one around to help with this process.

Some useful links:
 Duct tape dummy how-to
MMCC Template page The WOF template down loads (standard male plates) can be found about half way down this page

Mounting your Armor

Can seem pretty difficult at first but fear not! It's actually easier then you think.
The most popular way of mounting armor are with:
  • Industrial velcro (it's usually sticky backed, and will adhere nicely to the sintra of your plates, but the other side will need to be sew down as the adhesive does not sitck to most fabrics well). To sew it down, I recommend using fishing line (so it will not fray as it is caught in the velcro), a thimble to push the needle through the adhesive, and needle nose pliers to pull it through the other side. This will save your fingers. Regular sew-on velcro will also work, though it is not as strong.
  • Bolts or Chicago screws. This is a good method if you want to make your plates removable so you can wash the vest without ruining velcro. All screws and bolts must be painted to match the armor.
  • Magnets. Easy on, easy off. No worrying about spacing your plates after the first time becasue it will always be right, but be sure to use strong magnets, or you might loose something.
  • Snaps. Big strong snaps work similar to magnets, but be sure your plates are shaped correctly before attaching the snaps, or the snaps may pull through your vest or soft parts. I've seen this happen.
There are other methods, but these are the most popular.

Attachment methods to avoid:
  • Glue. It will wear off or not stick well and your plates will fall off.
  • Tape. Tape is an unacceptable method of armor attachment.

Elastic may only be used on knees, and ONLY if it is color matched to the flight suit.
Nylon strapping is acceptable IF the strapping is high quality.


Backplates

Backplates can be a difficult and uncomfortable part of the armor to make and wear. It is highly recommended that you have a "shaping buddy" to help you shape your backplate when the time comes. Backplates that do not fit nicely are often uncomfortable to wear for long periods of time.

There are three styles of backplates that are primarily used when making armor. Full backplates, 3/4th backplates and layered backplates. Full backplates tend to be the most uncomfortable but offer the traditional "Boba Fett style" coverage. 3/4ths offer a little more movement room in the shoulders then the other two styles, and layered are probably the most comfortable as they move slightly better with the body.

Some useful links:
Vhr Oyre's 3/4'th backplate
Linora Void
Ni'ka's full backplate
Ni'ka's full backplate
Aria's full backplate
Kavryn's layered 3/4th backplate

Cod plates

These are a required piece for all mandos UNLESS you have a high quality loincloth covering that area. Most of us women have elected to go this route.

Those of us who have not have found that we need to cut the male templates down considerably or make our own templates due to...reasons.
We have used a bikini style swim suit or pair of underwear and templated our own reduced cod plates, which we refer to as "Bikini cods".

Some useful links:
Kavryn's bikini cod
Laaran's bikini cod
Jorikad's bikini cod
Kramla's loincloth

Gauntlets

The traditional "Boba Fett" gaunts are usually too big for us women, so most of us end up making our own. One popular thing seems to be making simple guants that attach with velcro or magnets and are basically slabs of sintra formed around our arms.
Gauntlets are often a daunting part of making your kit, but remember you can always start with something simple and make additions or upgrades when you're ready.

One way to do simple gaunts is to use thick plastic cups rather then PVC as they already have a tapper in them. Cut them in two, cut out the bottom, cut them to length, attached greeblies, attach with piano hinges and away you go!

Remember that gauntlets must cover a minimum of 3/4th of your forearm and be of a hard material. Also remember that if you opt for longer ones, be sure to cut room for your wrists and elbows to bend so you can reach things and move comfortably.

Popular methods for attaching gauntlets are magnets, piano hinges, industrial velcro (only works for basic gaunts), bolts and clips.

Some helpful links:
Ordeyn's scratch build gaunts Ordeyn used PVC pipe
Aria's scratch build gaunts Aria used sintra

Gauntlets for sale
April Storm's props She sells 3D printed gaunts that would fit most women

Shin plates, Knee plates and 'Shinnies'

Knee plates are required for all kits, and most of us are able to adapt the male templates into our own knees. You can also find find 3D printable knee templates on thingiverse, and size them to your own legs, though 3D printing and modeling experience is helpful with that process.
Knee plates are the only plates that can be attached with external velcro. The velcro must be color matched to the flight suit. It is also popular to put velcro on the center of the knee caps to help them stay in place.
Be ware of kneeling on plastic knee caps, they break easily!

Shin plates are only required for medium and heavy builds. Most of us template our own, or adapt Jango templates. Shins may be attached with velcro, high quality nylon strapping, or internal elastic.
Internal elastic is attached to the plates, usually by velcro, and run through small slits in the flightsuit around the calf and back out to attach to the other side of the shin.

"Shinnies" are a combination knee/shin plates. They are able to be approved, but must be of high quality. See examples below. They are attached in the same method as shins.

Some helpful links:

Knees:
Vheh's knees
Ion's knees
Laaran's knees

Shins:
Evaar'la's Shins
Ni'ka's Shins

Shinnies:
Aria's Shinnies
Kavyn's Shinnies


PURCHASING FEMALE ARMOR

While it is possible to draft and shape your own custom armor,  not everyone wants to struggle with every piece or has the time or resources to struggle through the learning curves (no pun intended) that come with building female armor.
It should be noted that you will likely not be able to find every style of armor you could possibly want, or an exact fit when you order armor. Most kits come in standard sizes, and you will need to do some shaping/trimming/sanding to get the plates to fit you.

Some helpful links:
The Mandalorian Arsenal Full sets. Can be male or female

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Re: Female Armor Resource Board (2016) Chest Armor
« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2016, 12:21 AM »
Chest Armor
We will also cover the rest of the torso plates in this section

Chest armor


Chest armor can easily be one of the most difficult parts of a female build. Simply put, no two women are shaped alike, so finding a universal pattern or "right way" to make every plate is almost impossible. Most of us women opt to make our own pattern and go from there, but there are sellers of female torso kits for those of us who simply can't get the pieces to look right.

Patterning the chest plates out is usually done in foam or paper on oneself or a dress dummy. Keep in mind that you may want to make the pattern a little big, as you can always take away from the plates but it's hard to add to them.

If you want to make a custom pattern and shape to your torso armor, the easiest way to start if with a standard pattern (probably male) and work from there.


The styles of the female chest plates

While there are other "styles" out there, these styles seem to be the most popular and most repeated. This guide, complied by Vhe Oyre, will give you a basic guide to the "Styles of the Galaxy".

Cupped



The “cupped” style is the most outwardly feminine.We call it the "baseball" look.
You can attain this style through metal work, a hanging torso mannequin, fiberglass, or vacuform (the first and last of which requires a considerable amount more skill or learning/prep time than most other methods). Keep in mind that a hanging torso mannequin can get a bit too “anatomically correct” in a lot of cases, so just be wary of too-accurate proportions or errant nipples.

Darted or “Ergonomic”



The “darted” or “ergonomic” style also produces a slight cup shape, but nowhere near that of the cupped style.
This provides a bit of curve and shaping with a rounder outer edge and more feminine curve without being as deep or as pronounced as the baseball look. This works really well with sintra and other thermoplastics, and is a relatively attainable option for most builders. It can be done with just a few cuts and heat gun or oven by hand. It does require finishing work with bondo to make the plates smooth.

Subtle Shaping



“Subtle shaping” is probably the easiest way to go about making plates, but definitely don’t think of it as a cop out.
It produces some really nice shapes in a less pronounced and subtle way. All this usually involves is a properly trimmed/drafted template and a heat gun to gently mold the plate to the lines of the body. A more balanced look can be achieved by combining this with a dart or two in some cases for more deft shaping. You can also achieve a look like this with metal work, or fiberglass.

Angular or “Paneled”



This is a style that has become quite popular in the past few years.
The “angular” or “paneled” look uses mostly flat panel patterns glued or folded at the seams to make harsher lines and sharper angles. You can get really creative with this and throw in curved panels as well, to mix up the look. I consider Bo-Katan or Nite Owl armor to fall into this category.

Legacy



Legacy style plates can be made with any of the above methods, but you’ll be working with a single, whole chest panel.

“Male”

Obviously, you can choose to just stick with male styled templates, too, though you may have to get creative with binding if you are well-endowed, or give the plates a liiiiittle bit more shaping in some areas to accommodate.

Some helpful links:

Fiberglass and Body Mold Examples:
(Linora Void)
(Rav Sta’is)
(Spanner)
(Ion)
(Kebiin)

Metal Exsamples:
(Vhe Oyre)
(Kione)

Hanging Torso Mannequin Examples:
(Vexa Seragon)
(Risika Skirata)   

Dart Examples:
(Kuu)
(Sahirate)
(Aria)

Angular or “Paneled” Examples:
(Viradechtis)
(Coreysnaps)
(Jorikad)
(Kavryn)

   Tutorials: *We are sorely lacking in pure tutorials; however, much of what you need can be found in WIP thread examples. Please, please, please explore the forums for resources! It’s the best thing you can do for yourself.

 
Dishing and Planishing metal, the basics *Please watch all 6 videos in the series
Angular or “Paneled” Tutorial
Cupped Plastic Tutorial
Dart Placement Tutorial
Darting Sintra tutorial

Female Template Downloads

Vira's angled plates
Female plates


Torso plates!! (Not to be forgotten)

Spacing for your torso plates will vary depending on your size. Very small women can get away with smaller then standard spacing.
In general, it is recommended to space your plates about an inch apart, but as long as your spacing is even, you can space it closer.
It is highly recommended that you start spacing your plates from the top down. Start with your collar plate and get that in a good spot before you place your chest plates. This will make it much easier to correctly space your plates then starting with the chest plates and working up.

Diamonds
Chest diamonds are the small center diamond in the middle of the chest plates on a Modern build. Most of us make our own templates for them and just fit them to our builds. Custom diamond shapes are accepted, but only when the rest of the plates are customized to the shape.
Spacing for the diamond can be no more then half an inch around the diamond. It is wider elsewhere.

Examples:
Aria's custom diamond/torso plates


Collar plates:
Collar plates should line up with the outside edges of your chest plates. They sit on your collar bone. It is important to get your collar plate to fit and sit correctly as it will effect how the rest of your torso plates line up.
It is common for us smaller women to have the collar plate push on our shoulders when we cross our arms. While you can usually get away with trimming the outside down a little (not too much though, be careful), you can also try segmenting the plates for ease of movement.

If you end up having a large space between your collar plate and your chest plates, you can add to your collar plate such as Aria did, or add a second plate such as Kyramala did. You can also make the plate larger, but be ware that it does not overwhelm the rest of your armor.

Aria's collar Sintra added to make it longer
Kryamla's collar Second plate added
Kris's collar Segmented collar
Laaran's collar Laaran represents the "more or less" Custom and Standard collar shape for us women

Ab plates

Ab plates are pretty easy after all the rest of the plates you've done by now.  ;)
Ab plates usually end up starting right under the bra on women and ending right above the belly button. The side tabs should line up with the sides of your chest armor. Here are some examples.

Kyramla
Padm
Karvyn


Sellers of Female chest plates:
The Mandalorian Arsenal Multiple styles, halfway down the page.


Happy building!! ~Aria

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Re: Female Armor Resource Board (2016) How-to's
« Reply #4 on: May 10, 2016, 12:23 AM »
How-to's

Anything that's non femmando specific should be in the Costume Turoitals forum sticky.

Soft Part Links:
Guide to making your own flight suit. Not many pics
Yaya Han's bodysuit pattern This could work for a single piece, tight fitting flight suit with some modifications.
Yaya Han's Bodysuit Pattern #2 For curvier women.
How to make a paper (or duct tape) dummy Very useful to have around through the entire build to try your pieces on


Chest Armor Links:
Dishing and Planishing metal, the basics *Please watch all 6 videos in the series
Angular or “Paneled” Tutorial
Cupped Plastic Tutorial
Dart Placement Tutorial

Vira's angled plates
Female plates

The Mando Maker:
Mando Maker!! Mock up your colors and armor scheme here

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Re: Female Armor Resource Board (2016) General Sewing Help
« Reply #5 on: May 10, 2016, 12:24 AM »
General Sewing Help

Basic sewing and fitting help

Drafting a body block for custom fitted items
Drafting a more advanced sloper (with darts) PDF
Measuring with a printable chart
     
Sewing and fitting techniques
Burdastyle (also has free and very cheap patterns for shirts and pants!)
test fit with a muslin
Using a fitting pattern
Fitting pants (for jeans from a pattern, but really useful for any pants)
Tapering or widening pants

How to make a paper-tape dummy

Femmando specific tutorials can be found here.

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Re: Female Armor Resource Board (2016) Misc.
« Reply #6 on: May 10, 2016, 12:25 AM »
Misc - For the trooping Femmandos by the trooping Femmandos!


This long section compiled by the wonderful Kris Jasra

Couple of tricks I've found while doing breast plates in sintra: Cut the sides of the chest a little longer than you think you may need - that will give a margin to cut them all down smoothly without having to worry about trimming to one section tha'ts ended up a little short. And cut and form the collar and chest, then re-template the ab - between paper and sintra the angle of the bottom tab on the chest plate can change and the ab made now may not fit as well.

Unless you have a really long torso, you may find it easier to have the ab start higher than you'd expect. The top of my ab is actually sitting against the bottom band of my bra rather than against my stomach. And my chest plates cut off at my lower breast, makes for a lot less curving as you don't need to go all the way back under the breast.

Buy yourself a couple of mando only bras. Something comfy to wear for long periods that has no bits that dig in if armour is over them. Shape and trim and fit everything while wearing that bra only. I actually have 3, one in each kit box so when I get to an event I have the right bra, plus a spare one. All armour is made, shaped and fitted to that bra. It's essential that you pick one that you can wear for long periods of time without needing to adjust - straps falling down are a real pain to try and get back in place. I tend towards racerback sports bras - no strap issues, no lace or frill to rub on armour and no wires to stick into me.

Second thing I've started doing, again essential for anybody using a one part flightsuit is to acquire a shewee. I have it in a pouch at my belt so no matter what I will not be stuck having to de-kit just to go use the bathroom after drinking a little too much in a bid to stay hydrated.

I also have a selection of headbands kept in my kitbag - I have short hair, if you have long hair switch that out with some good hair ties, leather thonging, etc. Again - no fun getting to a troop to find you have no way of keeping your hair under control.

Pack a load of fem hygiene supplies of varyi9ng types. Having to ask the guys in the carpool to detour because you need to buy some supplies is always amusing. Even if you're not at that time, there may be a fellow trooper who is. You will become a star for having extras. While you're at it, pop a box of painkillers and a couple of heat pads in too.

Spare silicone shoulder pads can be used under bra straps to stop them rubbing - useful if you have a backpack or jetpack as the weight can end up directly over strapping. Also useful if the bra you wear just has thinner straps.

I also wear boxers - far more comfy than more generally shaped feminine underwear - less rubbing. And I know a friend of mine does similar by wearing longer boxers or cycle shorts over her regular underwear to help stop any chafing.

Also, bring another comfy bra for after the troop if you use a tighter sports bra or use any type of binding under your armour and it's a long troop.

Lots of people will have deoderants etc, however if you add one to the kit box yourself, you can be scented to how you like

~Kris Jasra

Straws are a handy thing to keep in your kit bag...you can use them to drink from a water bottle without removing your bucket, which comes in handy when you have a hard to remove helmet like I do.

I use a pair of needle nose pliers and a thimble when sewing down industrial velcro. It keeps my fingers from becoming toast. I also recommend using a strong needle and fishing line, so that when the fishing line is snared by the hook side of the velcro it will not break.

When you're going shopping for toothpaste for weathering (in the US), I've found that colgate is thicker and usually leaves blocky, rounder weathering.  crest is thinner and easier to spread, so you can get finer, more defined lines going with your weathering. Your choice of which style will better fit your kit. I've had good results with both.


~Aria

If you had tips or tricks you'd like to add to this section, please message me!

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Re: Female Armor Resource Board (2016)
« Reply #7 on: Mar 27, 2018, 05:47 AM »
Going through these threads for research, there is still so many broken Photobucket pics.

As detailed in the other sticky thread here the Tech Team is busy working on an updated 2018 version with new links and images. This has not been forgotten about, but it takes some time with the amount of data and information to go through.

Anyone who would like to put forward ideas and resources for the guide is welcome to do so in the other thread.

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