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Re: Late Crusader WIP (geared towards beast hunter)
« Reply #15 on: Nov 16, 2016, 12:08 AM »
Update 11/15/2016 (PIC HEAVY): That armour came quick, I got it a few days ago and just got around to posting my progress since then.  I have pretty much my entire kit, minus a back apparatus for my helmet hose(s) to connect to and probably some leather half chaps for my shins.



A lot of people have mentioned that these plates are small.  I tried them on and they fit very well.  The back plate feels a little small but lines up with the collar plate in size and I canít say much because I donít have a back plate with my current kit.



My idea for strapping the chest and back plates together is to use this leather belt I picked up from Wal-Mart for $6.50 in the women's section. I cut it in half to connect my back plate with my chest plate.  I weathered the belt with some light brown paint.  After I had weathered it, I found it is faux leather and doesnít smell very good burnt.  Iíll run by Loweís tomorrow to see what kind of hardware I can find to connect it to my plates.




The first thing I did was flat black the backside of my plates.  This is something Iíve done since putting an acrylic black paint on the inside of my helmet; to me it makes the overall armour cleaner with no white showing.  I then painted the metallic coats on the front of the plates a let it sit over night (roughly 8-10 hours).



The next morning before I left to work I applied several coats of hunter green to my plates and let it dry while at work.



After I got home I applied another coat of paint and set out to working on weathering my soft parts.  I used mostly flat black and dark brown spray paint to weather my ďdeerĒ skin gloves.  I choose these gloves because they remind me of a trapper and would work well with my overall beast hunter approach to this kit.



I kept one glove untouched so you could see the comparison between fully weathered and brand new.  After all my paint had been applied I used a little bit of acetone in a few areas to make it look like a stain here and there over the years.



Iíll be running this flight suit through the wash once more.  The greens were made with some paint, grass stains where I smeared it into the grass, or pine branches I rubbed it all over.  The browns are from some paint, dirt, mud, and rubbing it over all the rocks outside.  The greys are from doing an oil change in the flight suit, dust from my garage, and rubbing it across the asphalt outside.



My hard leather green bracers also got the same weathering effects with flat black, light brown, and dark brown paints.  Also smeared in garage/shop dust.  Buckles still need to be trimmed to my arm size with flight suit on.



The next day when I got home from work I heated my knee plates up and bent them to the shape of my knees.  I also added a rusty brown to all the spikes on my shoulder bells and then the weathering process began across all my plates.  I mostly used a dark brown and flat black spray paint to smearing into the scratches/grooves.



In addition to the paint I swept up my garage and used the grime to smear into my plates.  I then used some potting soil to add my grime and weathering to my plates, especially in the crevices.  This is where dirt would build up in real life from tromping around the woods.



A trick I used to get the dirt to stick was to heat the back of the plates up with a heat gun.  This got the paint on the reverse side sticky and the grime adhered better to the plates.  My plates are now done; as far as weathering (the appearance as though I may have slid down a hill in kit, brushed up against a tree or bush, and similar scratches one would get hunting prey).  Iíll be working more on my back plate apparatus for my helmet hoses.  Iím strongly considering only having one hose and a filter on my helmet instead of two.



My flak vest is made from a leather jacket that used to have ďearthyĒ frills down the backside.  I cut the sleeves off and marked out approximately where the bottom abdominal plate would be to make the flak vest shorter.



I will be using straps instead of buttons to secure the back of my flak vest, so I can fasten it over my flight suit.  The collar was also adjusted so it doesnít press up against my neck.



Below is sort of how my armour will look when secured to the flak vest with velcro.



What should the spacing be between the plates (i.e. the abdominal plate to the chest plate and the abdominal plates to the kidney plates)??

The CRLs say a girth belt is acceptable, but I don't see any reference pictures for one?

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Re: Late Crusader WIP (geared towards beast hunter)
« Reply #16 on: Nov 16, 2016, 12:19 AM »
Well there isn't a hard and fast rule for crusader era spacing I would say err on the side of similar to modern spacing and you should be fine. Now the plates don't "fit together" as well as modern plates. But go for even spacing across all of the gaps and no to large of a gap and you should be fine

Also excellent weathering!   :D

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Re: Late Crusader WIP (geared towards beast hunter)
« Reply #17 on: Nov 16, 2016, 10:34 PM »
Well there isn't a hard and fast rule for crusader era spacing I would say err on the side of similar to modern spacing and you should be fine. Now the plates don't "fit together" as well as modern plates. But go for even spacing across all of the gaps and no to large of a gap and you should be fine

Also excellent weathering!   :D

Thanks, it was fun weathering it.  Good to know on the spacing; I'm going to look at some other LC reference pictures and used the rule of thumb.  My next side project is a back apparatus similar to Rohlan's, but more emphasis on the air tanks.  Any suggestions on what to use for a air filter on the one side of the helmet?

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Re: Late Crusader WIP (geared towards beast hunter)
« Reply #18 on: Nov 20, 2016, 06:07 PM »
Update 11/20/2016:

I researched Mandalorian Late Crusader references to figure out how to make my back plate air tank apparatus.



Most of the references I found where too bulky for a beast hunter to use.  I needed something more simplified and agile to my profession.  I also looked at Rohlanís jet-pack, but it to was bulky.



Working with Naran Baatar and Bowfanny, I threw some concept ideas together.  Nothing stuck out as varying away from the Late Crusader era, so I moved on with my build.



I found these water purification filters for under your kitchen sink that seemed to pop out to me as a usable back apparatus.  They are light weight as well and look like they could be used as ďair tanksĒ for my helmet hose(s).



I drilled holes through the tubes, made base plates out of some scrap 6mm sintra, and lined everything up with my back plate to drill more holes.  I then secured 3 inch bolts with the beveled heads from the inside of the back plate against my back.



I made it so I have two pieces I can attached my helmet hoses to; the top of the small tank and the side of the large tank.  Both are connected with the black hose and can be used for back up if one tank runs out of oxygen.



After I had assembled how the back apparatus would work, I began painting.  Starting with a metallic under coat.  Since my kit is mostly green, I decided to use a yellow as my primary colour.  Then the weathering began with spray paints in brown colours, dust from the garage, and dirt from a potted plant.



The weathered yellow and green complimented my kit well.  The yellow is seen in the Star Wars universe on for example a Naboo N-1 Starfighter or the landspeeder Anakin used in Attack of the Clones.  I can't pin point an exact reference right now to an environmental yellow, but with it weathered as it is I should be able to find something.  I also placed a hook on my helmet that holds my hose down and out of the way for better head movement.



I really like how the apparatus turned out, it definitely screams Late Crusader even though there are not references to something like this.  It also follows the low-tech kit for the Brigade requirement: "A low-tech kit is recommended Ė Once again, you would likely be away from your ship and civilization for days or weeks at a time and usually alone in the wilderness or in primitive settlements, so do-dads that draw power, need fuel or require frequent maintenance are discouraged."




Excuse the yellow t-shirt, it is throwing off the apparatus colour a little bit.  Next step is to figure out my flak vest and whether or not Iíll use one (since it isnít required by CRLs).  I can wear the chest and back plate with my leather strapping over my flight suit no problem; but my shoulder bells, kidney plates, and abdominal plate need to be held in place.  Maybe the front part will come done from the chest plate to hold everything up and then leather straps across the back under the back plate??  I donít know yet.


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Re: Late Crusader WIP (geared towards beast hunter)
« Reply #20 on: Nov 22, 2016, 12:09 AM »
Update 11/21/2016: I started attaching plates, following the same spacing as I laid out in my last post.  There is not reference to how far about this armour is supposed to be and I decided to use a little bit wider spacing between the abdominal plate and kidney plates.  This was because I wanted my kidney plates to actually cover my sides under the arm; against my rib cage. 

I ran out of Velcro, though and will need to get more to work with the back and chest plates.  I also need to work on my lower armoured parts (i.e. cod and knees) and the soft waist parts.  Ideally I'd like to be able to fasten my ammo/macrobinocular belt with girth, sash, and cod piece in place.  I'll also need to trim back my hard bracers with the excess strap lengths and the right shoulder belt should come up to be even with the left shoulder, when I pull the collar up towards my neck line.  I plan to have some velcro under the leather strapping to hold up the flak vest better, or something to that effect.


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Re: Late Crusader WIP (geared towards beast hunter)
« Reply #21 on: Nov 22, 2016, 12:14 AM »
Spacing looks good vod!, but that girth belt looks a bit loose  :P

But really it is really coming together nicely, keep up the good work

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Re: Late Crusader WIP (geared towards beast hunter)
« Reply #22 on: Nov 22, 2016, 11:33 PM »
Spacing looks good vod!, but that girth belt looks a bit loose  :P

Ya, that ^ ^ would be because I just tucked it under my ammo belt for the picture.  :)

Update 11.22.16:  Ran out of velcro last night and quickly threw everything on.  The girth belt was tucked under my ammo belt and needed leather strapping.  So first thing I did when I got home from work today was make strapping for the girth belt.



I then put on everything I have assembled together.  Iím still missing my knee plates w/strapping, I could not find my balaclava, my half chaps are coming in on Friday (they and my boots will need weathering), and my back plate still needs some velcro to hold it up closer to my neck.



Through all this, I've also realized our guest bathroom mirror needs to be cleaned.



My conceptual drawings are starting to match my kit everyday now.




Please comment on anything you are seeing that I should fix now, Iím getting closer to completing my kit.  Iíd like to fix the little things while I have the motivation to do it.


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Re: Late Crusader WIP (geared towards beast hunter)
« Reply #23 on: Nov 22, 2016, 11:48 PM »
Well as I am sure you are well aware you have some neck meat poking out. But really this is a very solid kit and with the level of effort you have put into it I find it unlikely that you are going to run into any issues. But don't worry I will keep a close eye on your build for any unweathered threading or other sneaky little things that might try and slip by.

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Re: Late Crusader WIP Soft Parts, Knees, & Bone Knife
« Reply #24 on: Nov 24, 2016, 03:33 PM »
Update 11/24/2016:  I had originally made this neck seal for my wifeís kit back in July 2016.  She recently switched to a navy blue flight suit and no longer needed the yellow balaclava.  When I had ordered her yellow one, I also ordered a tan one for my LC kit.  Now Iím almost done with my LC kit and canít find the balaclava anywhere.  I heavily used tan, light brown, and dark brown spray paints on the neck portion of it and after a wash/dry it now is the correct colour of my flight suit.



The top part is still yellow, but no one will see that with my helmet on.



It now covers my neck with my helmet on making it a completely sealed suit.  I also weathered it some more to match the rest of my kit.



The last soft part I am waiting for it my half chaps to protect my shins and cover up my boots.  Since my boots are similar height to Bobaís shoes, Iíll need these half chaps to cover the tops of them.



Yesterday I finished the leather strapping on my knees.



Velcro was added to the knees to keep them in place in addition to the leather strapping.



This is what they look like on my kit (see image below).  The right knee is slightly crooked, I hope to resolve this with my half chaps positioning the material of my flight suit straighter.



Back in June 2016, I sat down to make a knife out of 6mm Sintra.  I based it off a few Buck knifes that I own.



After I had cut it out of the Sintra it started to resemble a blade.  I carved the blade part with my razor blade and found a wood handle of an old cooking pot at the thrift store.



When I had painted it a flat black and assembled the cooking pot handle it looked like a pretty good melee weapon for my Mandalorian beast hunter kit.



It was quite flexible and con-friendly safe, but didnít feel right for my kit.  For one the handle was quite large in my hand and felt like I was ironically holding up a cooking pot, not a knife.



For months I contemplated how to make this knife work with my kit.  I finally decided I was going to buy one of those bone knifes off eBay or something to use for my kit, but I would need a sheath for it.



I went to Wal-Mart today to get some last minute supplies for Thanksgiving and was browsing through the camping/outdoors section when I came upon a knife with a sheath.  It was less than $10, so I grabbed it thinking I could salvage the sheath or something.



Looking over the knife itself, I decided to make it con-friendly and duller than a butter knife.  This thing is more blunt and square than a butter knife now.



After making it intentionally dull, I started to work on the handle.  I had already removed the ďearthyĒ hand grips.  I painted the blade a brass/gold colour and added black weather tints to the blade itself.  Then I painted the handle a cream tan and bone white.  I weathered the handle with dirt and brown spray paints.  Similar to how I made the bone spikes that on the ridge of my helmet.



I added leather strapping to the bone knife as a means to make it look like it was assembled using this strapping.  I also replaced the flimsy snap vinyl strapping with a heavy duty snap on leather strapping.  The sheath, I converted into a leather sheath with leftover pieces from my flak vest.



The leather sheath and bone knife now sit between two leather pouches on my belt, opposite of my macrobinoculars and cable snares.



My half chaps are sitting at the post office right now, as well as some gauntlets from Dresdon for my current kit and will be both be delivered tomorrow.  These half chaps are the last piece of my kit and then I'll be taking pre-app pictures on Saturday with my clan Alor'ad, Tiric Keel.

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Re: Late Crusader WIP Last Component and Some Pictures in Full Kit
« Reply #25 on: Nov 26, 2016, 12:52 AM »
Update 11/25/2016:  My half chaps arrived today, I put them on immediately and wore them most of the day at work to break them in.  I did however put them on backwards at first, not very comfortable.  My co-worker joked that the horse wouldnít want the zipper rubbing up against it all day.  This meant that the zipper was on the outside leg, instead of the inside.  Image below shows straight out of the box and weathered after work.



One of the big points youíll notice from above is my boots were also weathered to match the rest of my kit.  Brown and tan spray paints were sprayed into the crevices/treads of my boots to make it appear that Iíve been all over the planet searching for the predators I hunt.  Youíll also see that I may have used the grinder on my leg in the mesh area while wearing the chaps.



The solution to hide the zipper was to over-lay a piece of leather type material scraped from the sleeves of my flak vest.  I used heavy duty snaps with some leather straps to mount this material to the chaps.  I then used left over Velcro to make a strip down the opposite side of the chaps from the snaps.



This works extremely well, as Iím able to quickly remove either the snaps or the Velcro to access the zipper on my half chaps.



So after altering the chaps to hide the zipper and weathering both chaps & boots I kitted up.



I tried everything in my kit, anything a beast hunter might do, like kneel or lay on the ground.



This shot is my character (Rex DhaíWerda) with macrobinoculars out, looking into the distance.  Might be a fun one to Photoshop in the future.



I love how mobile I am in this kit.  I can kneel no problem, jump, bend, tip, lay down and get back up without help.



I took the regular pre-app pictures and after running them past my clan Aloríad and Ruus`alor they are putting them up on my regions pre-app board.  This kit is getting close to submission and every tweak is making it that much better.


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Re: Late Crusader WIP (geared towards beast hunter)
« Reply #26 on: Nov 29, 2016, 12:21 PM »
Pre-App Photos are posted here: http://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/index.php?topic=113462.msg1659832#msg1659832

Please comment with feedback on that thread.

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Re: Late Crusader WIP (geared towards beast hunter)
« Reply #27 on: Nov 29, 2016, 07:52 PM »
Dude this is awesome i love it!

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Re: Late Crusader WIP (geared towards beast hunter)
« Reply #28 on: Nov 30, 2016, 03:28 PM »
Update 11/30/2016:  Made some adjustments to my SWTOR sniper rifle.  Had basically a snow day today with the last three days snowfall totally 13"-18".  I am working from home, not sure how much "work" is getting done though.   :)  I removed the "earthy" looking magazine, a lot of unnecessary leather wraps, and the trigger guard.  I also did some touch up paint, painted the hand grips, and weathering.


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Re: Late Crusader WIP (geared towards beast hunter)
« Reply #29 on: Dec 03, 2016, 01:17 AM »
Update 12/3/2016:  My clan leaders gave me the go ahead to submit my application today and gave me the link to the regional pre-app.  He mentioned the top things that came out of the pre-app.  Move girth belt over top edge of cod piece.  It was already over the top edge, but I moved it down even more to cover the tabs as well.  Someone also mentioned that my sniper rifle looked too modern, I altered it more to look like the reference photos from SWTOR (as seen above in my last post).  I removed the magazine clip, trigger guard, and most of the leather strapping after I adjusted the scope.  My armour was not found in the reference photos and it was pointed out to someone that my armour is in fact approved by the App Team for the Late Crusader Era; the Ramikadyc Armor from the Mandalorian Arsenal. 

Some thing was also mentioned about lower armour, when I read the CRLs it suggest lower armour be used other than the cod piece.  I took this to mean that I was encouraged to have knee armour, because it was not mentioned anywhere else about knee armour in the CRLs.  I do use heavy leather half chaps for my shins in addition to my knee armour.  My shoulders where noted as maybe being too small, but if you compare Official Member Ru'Der Marekar's LC kit he uses the same hard hat shoulders.

My suggestions to myself after de-kitting the first time was to adjust my back plate and apparatus to be more center.  I also wanted my balaclava to be tucked in, closer to my neck.  I also got some antler tips to be used as beast teeth as a trophy on my kit.  This was the last component I needed for my Beast Hunter kit, after this LC kit gets approved.  This combined with the beast spikes across the dome of my helmet are the two trophies needed for this brigade profession.

My new character's name is Rex Dha'Werda.  It may have to do with an elementary school project that we had to pick a new name for ourselves.  I wanted to be named T-Rex, so you can guess what age I was (7 years old I think).  Also when I first showed my family the picture of my helmet, my sister said I looked like a dinosaur.  I didn't think of any of this until after I was searching the name generator and found references to the name Rex in my Era.  So there you have it, the ancestor to Karl Dha'Werda is Rex.

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