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Re: Build 1.5 (Pic Heavy)
« Reply #60 on: Apr 09, 2017, 12:46 AM »
You can use isopropyle alcohol to remove the sticky from sticky back velcro

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Re: Build 1.5 (Pic Heavy)
« Reply #61 on: Apr 09, 2017, 01:20 AM »
Ooooh, sewing machine and sticky back velcro sounds painful... Hopefully the machine survived that encounter.  ;D I tried it with a needle and thread and nearly stabbed myself far too many times and ruined the needle.

You can use isopropyle alcohol to remove the sticky from sticky back velcro

Woah! Good to know, thanks!

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Re: Build 1.5 (Pic Heavy)
« Reply #62 on: Apr 09, 2017, 09:38 AM »
What Malakier said, or order it on line from Walmart for in-store pick up. They were the cheapest last I looked.

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Re: Build 1.5 (Pic Heavy)
« Reply #63 on: Apr 09, 2017, 09:56 AM »
...order it on line from Walmart for in-store pick up.

This^  Amazon has it for comparable, but you'll have to pay shipping unless you have Amazon Prime.

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Re: Build 1.5 (Pic Heavy)
« Reply #64 on: Apr 11, 2017, 04:46 PM »
In regards to the sticky back Velcro, I've found that it works well as an iron-on Velcro.

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Re: Build 1.5 (Pic Heavy)
« Reply #65 on: Apr 11, 2017, 04:53 PM »
I tried the alcohol trick, but either I found the wrong stuff or I did it wrong, cause nothing really happened. Thanks for the tip, Orar, I'll see what I can do on some scrap material today!

I think I've finsihed the flight suit alterations, but I wanted to be sure.
I took the legs in quite a bit, and sewed elastic to the bottom of the pants so they'd stay inside the boot. They're stitched on the outer side and just safety pinned on the inside with some extra slack in case I need to adjust tightness or placement, which is good cause as I type this the elastic is actually tight enough to make the bottoms of my feet fall asleep...  ;D
It's possible the pants are still a tad baggy, but I wear almost exclusively skinny jeans or other tighter fitting pants, so straight cut jeans feel baggy to me too and I'm not quite sure how much loose material is ok.



The knee plates slide down every five steps, so it's a good thing I was already planning on velcro to help hold them up. Gonna hold off until I know if I need to take the legs in any more. Sorry about the slightly blurry picture, I was half crouching to try and get a good shot of my legs haha

I also can't find belt clips anywhere for the life of me, so I'm thinking about maybe using money clips to hold the boot plates over the laces.

I messaged Jas'ika from forge props a week ago to ask about a bucket, haven't heard back yet... Anyone know how long replies from sellers usually take and when I should try again?

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Re: Build 1.5 (Pic Heavy)
« Reply #66 on: Apr 11, 2017, 05:39 PM »
With the craziness of everybody trying to get ready for Celebration, most of the vendors are probably swamped and/or traveling.  I'd give it until after Celebration is over before messaging Jas'ika again.  :)

The flight suit legs still look a bit baggy to me, but you'll to get a second opinion for sure.  And since many of the App Team are going to Celebration...it may take a day or two for another opinion.

As for using a money clip to hold the plate on your laces, that's an ingenious idea.  Give it a shot!

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Re: Build 1.5 (Pic Heavy)
« Reply #67 on: Apr 11, 2017, 08:21 PM »
Hmmm, K. Thought you were going on the outside with your pant legs. That's going to be a lot of laces to cover. You could do spats and attach your plates to them. This is the attachment I used:


You can see the clip attached to the inside that clips around the laces, then a strap that goes around the back of the heel to hold it in place. This gives good float so you can walk comfortably, but everything stays in place all day. ;)

As for the legs, yeah, still a little baggy. You want to hit that sweet spot that looks fitted but isn't uncomfortable.

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Re: Build 1.5 (Pic Heavy)
« Reply #68 on: Apr 11, 2017, 08:49 PM »
Ohhh, yeah, I forgot Celebration was so soon. Well, I'll try again in a week, then.

I took the pants legs in more and I think I found that sweet spot, but I'm going to wait until I have the boot plates done and get a full shot of my legs then. Couldn't find any money clips, belt clips, or anything comparable, but that's probably good, cause that simpler clip looks a lot easier! I'm planning on using some blue cloth similar to the waist sash to wrap around the upper laces and help tie it in place.

I tried the iron on trick with the adhesive velcro, and it worked decently, but I still wanted it to be stronger, so I ended up sewing that in too. Got some sew in velcro cause if I'm going to end up going over the adhesive anyways.... But everything below my waist besides the boot plates is finished, and it feels super cool! I can't wait to see how cool full kit feels!  ;D

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Re: Build 1.5 (Pic Heavy)
« Reply #69 on: Apr 11, 2017, 09:57 PM »
You're going at a good clip with these updates.  :D  Good work!  Sewing on velcro is must IMO; I don't trust adhesive back stuff either.

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Re: Build 1.5 (Pic Heavy)
« Reply #70 on: Apr 12, 2017, 10:26 PM »
Thanks, Fork!  :D
Finished up the boot plates today and sewed more velcro on the knees- mainly what I did was help my ori'vod alter her flight suit! Her concept forum's up here- http://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/index.php?topic=131689.0
I'm pretty excited about her build, I went mostly traditional, but she wants night owl helmet, is going to buy female plates from the arsenal, is going to make a kama, and is going for shinees, so it's going to be a fun time! Glad I'm doing my build first so I already know what I'm doing, heh... Her flight suit alterations were pretty painless after I'd already struggled through my own.

Here's my finished altered flight suit with all the lower plates and what I have for the belt so far:



I moved the trophies to behind my pouch, cause they were knocking and swinging all over my cod plate and it was a tad annoying:



I'm pretty pleased with everything except the boot plates. They look fine from the front and in the pictures, but when I look down at them they're flaring out quite a bit, even with the tie holding them down somewhat. And I attached the clip with velcro because it was impossible to work the clip into the laces with the plate on it, so this way I can insert the clip and then place the plate, as shown:



The problem with this is that whenever I walk it makes a velcro ripping noise, which is the velcro coming off and reattaching with every step. I think I'm just going to rivet the clip on straight through the plate and put up with the difficulties of working the plate into the laces every time. And I need to glue the straps on again because I forgot to clean the residue paint off the plates before I glued...

Overall, the boot plates are functional, I guess, (after I glue the fabric again and rivet the clip) but a pair of good laceless boots are definitely going on the upgrades list.

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Re: Build 1.5 (Pic Heavy)
« Reply #71 on: Apr 12, 2017, 10:56 PM »
The clips for the boot plates don't have to be terribly tight, mine are fairly open in fact. That leaves lot's of room for them to float back and forth as you walk. The trick is, get the clip wide enough that the plate doesn't float off to the side, and loose enough so you can point the toe of your boot and slip the plate on.

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Re: Build 1.5 (Pic Heavy)
« Reply #72 on: Apr 13, 2017, 12:10 PM »
I use elastic for my boot plates, both around the back (heel) and under the boot. I have tan boots and found some tan elastic that I just weathered to match the boots as well as I could. I don't have any problems with them coming loose or sliding around at all. My boots have a zipper closure on the side (in addition to the laces) and the plates stay on the boots all the time.

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Re: Build 1.5 (Pic Heavy)
« Reply #73 on: Apr 13, 2017, 03:21 PM »
Thanks for the tips- I glued the velcro clips on permanently and figured out that I can slip the clip in before I put the boot on and make things way easier for myself. There's also that loop thing on the back of the boots that I've never been able to figure out a use for- if I thread the cloth through that at the back, it stays tighter and everything holds better, so I'm much happier with my boot plates after figuring that stuff out.

Still gonna look for some good laceless boots for upgrading though, I'm not a huge fan of the boot plate look in the first place.

I was hoping to start work on the flak vest today, and it might still happen, but my progress is going to be waaay down for Easter. No complaining, this is probably one of my favorite holidays, but I am anxious to get the flak vest!

EDIT: Got the flak vest patterned out and constructed! It wasn't nearly as hard as I thought it would be, but it does still need a few alterations.



Black... may have not been the most photogenic choice of soft parts colors. I added lines for where the shoulders and hem ends- that bottom 'hem' is actually folded up, it ends slightly lower than that and will need to be taken up about an inch. I put on all the kit I have so far and held up the plates, I think the spacing looks pretty good! My one concern is the shoulder plates:



Line for where the shoulder on the flak vest currently ends. I've got to add shoulder bells yet, but they'll have to be awfully big to come from the end of the shoulder seam down to the entire plate... Can the shoulder plate hang off the flak vest shoulder, or does it have to be entirely backed by the flak vest? I can move them up a little and trim a bit off the plates. I really hope it's not a matter of extending the shoulder seam farther, or maybe I'll just have slightly larger than normal shoulder bells or something.

I took a collar from a knit turtleneck and sewed it on, saves a lot of trouble trying to fit my head into a stiff duck cloth collar. The problem is that with this collar, it pushes on the back of my neck and if I wear it for much longer than like, ten minute, I start getting neck pain. Once I wore the shirt the collar came from for about three hours and had a horrible neck and headache. The same thing happens to me with some necklaces. I'm thinking about reinforcing the collar with some cereal cardboard to hold it off my neck a bit more, since stiffer collars don't do that to me.

I also started sweating just kitting up, so my idea to get an alternative summer flight suit is looking like a really good one. It was a bit warmer than usual in the house, but there's no way I'm going to be able to do troops in the middle of summer as is. At least without constantly tucking ice cubes down my back.  ;D

Oh, I also got a cheap recorder today. I loved that stupid tiny bes'bev back on the last page so much that I had to make a better one, even if I don't end up officially adding it to my kit.

I'm really excited to work out the rest of the flak vest and get on to attaching plates, though! After that, I'll be on the downhill slope!

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Re: Build 1.5 (Pic Heavy)
« Reply #74 on: Apr 14, 2017, 07:55 AM »
Your shoulder plate can definitely hang off the flak vest. In fact, the shoulder wings on the vest are technically optional.

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