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 Lynx's Build (Pg4. Finally, full kit!)

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Lynx's Build (Pg4. Finally, full kit!)
« on: Jul 08, 2018, 07:41 PM »
So I've been wanting to do this for over a year now (probably longer, really) since my younger brother started introducing me to cosplay at comicon and other events.  My brother has been everyone from the flash to aquaman to the joker to kylo ren, though given the fact that he makes some big bucks and has no craft skills to speak of he tends to buy his costumes (some for as much as 4000$), whereas I've never got extra money but have an overflow of creativity and a background in construction, CAD, welding, and engineering.  So, that said, I've finally stopped making excuses and started getting it together to make a mandalorian armor build.

Tonight was step one: got the patterns downloaded, printed, and cut out.  I'm using a mixture of the boba and jango armor patterns (boba upper armor, jango thigh/shin/leg armor).  This will all hopefully be combined with an NME props assassin helmet at a later date, as well as some custom equipment and weapons of my own making.

Next step is to tape and glue these patterns to thicker hardboard, cut it all out again, and finally transfer to sintra sheets and cut those out for forming.  Got a brand new dremel tool and heat gun last week, and an entire maintenance shop full of parts to help me work on this project.





The patterns I found did not include gauntlets, so I'm going to have to come up with those on my own.  That's probably for the best considering my plans for gauntlet-attached tech and equipment.  I'm hoping to come up with a collapsible clear acrylic shield with LED's on one gauntlet, to mimic the energy shields used by death watch and sabine in clone wars/rebels.  I got the idea from this thread: https://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/index.php?topic=153858.0

For the other gauntlet, I'm considering either some kind of cryo-weapon (liquid CO2 emissions) or a retractable blade which would go hand-in-hand with the shield, allowing for melee combat.  Might go with some kind of retractable stun baton/electro-baton instead of an actual blade, still up in the air on that.  If none of those work out, probably just fall back on the typical flamethrower or wrist rocket attachment.

As far as jetpack goes, not sure if I'm going to do a pack (will be necessary for the C02 bottle if I go with a cryo-gauntlet) or if I'll just do the back armor plate and some kind of banner/half-cloak.   A butt-cloak like some of the clone troopers use would be interesting as well: http://i.imgur.com/f9StYsU.jpg

For color and patterning, I'm still not 100% decided but I'll most likely go with a black flightsuit for the base, and either black & silver or black & red armor.  Green is a possibility though, still trying to figure out how everything will look when it's done.  I do want to include some kind of feline iconography, perhaps a nexu or tusk cat emblem painted somewhere on the helmet, armor, or cloak (if I go that route).

Weaponry will probably be limited to a basic single pistol, something dl-44ish (always a fan of solo'd gun), but I'm also looking into making a rotating three-barrel heavy repeating blaster at some point.

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Re: Finally getting started - Lynx's build
« Reply #1 on: Jul 09, 2018, 10:07 AM »
Looks like you have a good start. Before you get your sintra cut, I'd heartily suggest taking a photo with the templates taped onto you so we can check how they fit you, and notate any adjustments that may be necessary.

As far as vambraces go, most folks seem to go with 3D printed ones, but I do know that templates exist for scratchbuilding the Boba style ones. They should be the sixth and seventh links down on the template page.

On your ideas for the vambrace weapons, the blade would have to be manually operated - no springs or anything like that, as per the CRLs. I would definitely encourage you to run the CO2 idea past the App Team before you start, because I suspect that that's probably going to also be a no. I vaguely recall one of my clanmates talking with one of our Ruus'alors about a similar idea, and I believe they were told no as well. That being said, there's nothing that says you can't determine that the flamethrower housing is actually a carbonite projector and visually differentiate it a bit. Maybe a bit of frost patterning on it, or something like that. Heck, any time I'm asked, I tell people that my flamethrower is a wrist-mounted micro-repeater, and my wrist rocket is actually an energy flechette launcher.

Kama's are fun. Just make sure that you don't wrap it too far around to where it becomes a skirt or kilt.

A word of caution on doing an all-black kit: they rarely photograph well, so if you are going to have everything be black, play with textures and finishes to differentiate pieces. Maybe use twill for your flightsuit, leather for the flak vest, and then have the plates themselves be gloss black.

Your other weapons  and accessories ideas sound fine. For the shield, might I suggest a magnetic attachment? That way, should you need or want to, the shield itself is removable.

Hope this all helps, and I look forward to your build. Cheers!

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Re: Finally getting started - Lynx's build
« Reply #2 on: Jul 09, 2018, 01:28 PM »
Was thinking an automated shield like this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJ0unSMWtsk

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Re: Finally getting started - Lynx's build
« Reply #3 on: Jul 09, 2018, 06:27 PM »
With regards to the shield, if you want to emulate the Enfys nest shields from Solo it would be a good in universe reference.  With regards to the gauntlets there are several vendors on the supply depot that can provide you with great bases to work off of, or there is the PVC pipe and piano hinge route.   
cheap weaponry/cryo sprayer using  the end of a power washer  wand cut down to size would be a great base. then the grip from it would be good for your rifle/pistol weaponry. Take your time and work through the parts and always measure twice cut once.

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Re: Finally getting started - Lynx's build
« Reply #4 on: Jul 09, 2018, 09:47 PM »
I had forgotten about those shields from solo, apparently they're even made out of mandalorian iron... interesting.  I'm not sure I really like the design though, I was going for more of a circular shield/buckler shape.  The expanding/collapsing segments is spot on though.


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Re: Finally getting started - Lynx's build
« Reply #5 on: Jul 10, 2018, 07:59 PM »
Got all the pieces of the paper pattern glued onto sheets of thicker stock paper (hardboard).  Have to cut those out again, then transfer to sintra.

I'll definitely post some pictures once the stock is cut out again to make sure sizing is good.  I'm 5'11" and using the 6'0" pattern as it's the closest one available in the patterns list, might be slightly large but I think it'll turn out ok.


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Re: Finally getting started - Lynx's build
« Reply #6 on: Jul 12, 2018, 09:12 AM »
Have you taken pictures and gotten feedback with the paper patterns on you?

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Re: Finally getting started - Lynx's build
« Reply #7 on: Jul 12, 2018, 01:42 PM »
Have you taken pictures and gotten feedback with the paper patterns on you?

Not just yet, I'll probably post pictures here tonight.  I was about to get to that point when I realized I ran into my first mistake - I accidentaly mixed up some of the pieces (namely the right chest and belly armor pieces) between the boba and jango patterns, so one chest piece was a boba pattern, and the other was jango, so I had to go back and find the proper piece and cut it out again, then the belly plate didnt match up to the chest plates anymore so I had to change that as well.

Waiting on the glue to dry, then some more cutting out the new pieces, and I'll get around to the pictures tonight.  Just had the alternator go out in my truck and my dog is sick, so those unexpected expenses may lead to further delays on getting the sintra =/

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Re: Finally getting started - Lynx's build
« Reply #8 on: Jul 13, 2018, 12:11 AM »
Ok, time to check sizing:




For the most part I think it's good.  I definitely will need to trim the back piece where it matches up to the collar.  Overall I think they're just very slightly on the large side for me, but after adding the bulk of a flight suit and vest should look perfect.  The back belt and cod piece sides are almost perfect (they're 42" circumference, and my waist is like 40-41", so once I add on a flight suit it should be a snug fit).  I'll probably find some way of clamping them together or using a buckle between them?  Not sure.

Didnt picture the leg pieces as they were more difficult to attach and display, but they all look good to my eye when fitting to myself.  Still havent done anything as far as gauntlets yet either, that'll be in the future I think.  Might just go with the piano hinge and pvc method and use sintra for the build-up/3 dimensional bits.

Any opinions on the sizing/spacing? 

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Re: Finally getting started - Lynx's build (Sizing/spacing posted)
« Reply #9 on: Jul 13, 2018, 08:27 AM »

plates are a tad wide, i recommend trimming a bit off just to plan for the eventuality of being totally kitted up and wanting the ability to cross your arms and not be bound up by your plates.   im not sure on their length. where is your navel? that will help me get an idea of length of the plates.    with regards to the cod trim it down some so its not getting caught on your thighs and whatnot as you walk. overall great first plating and good job on getting the collar in the right place the first time, that is usually the biggest problem I see with spacing photos.

backplates are more of a team effort and I strongly recommend getting your local clan involved in helping you make it but here are my suggested trims take it how you will.

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Re: Finally getting started - Lynx's build (Sizing/spacing posted)
« Reply #10 on: Jul 13, 2018, 01:03 PM »
Thanks for the tips.  I'll look into trimming a bit, but I think part of why everything looks so wide right now is because the pieces are all flat and havent been folded/shaped at all (these are still the paper patterns, not on sintra yet).  A little apprehensive about trimming the chest pieces down that much right now because it might end up changing the shape too much.

I do have a question about the shoulder bells, though (obviously not in the pictures): with the current way the chest/collar/back pieces fit, there's no way to really stick them on like you see with jango's outfit (where they kind of poke out horizontally at a slight downward angle).

Is it acceptable for the shoulder bells to be curved and placed on the outside of the upper arm, like from bicep to tricep), rather than directly on top of the shoulder?


EDIT:

Here's the cut and refitted pieces.  I definitely think it came out better on the front (I trimmed the collar by 1" on each side, as well as the two chest pieces by 1" on the outside edge and the gut plate by 1" on each side).  Trimmed the cod plate about 1-1/2" up from the bottom point and made it a straight edge instead of a point, looks better that way IMO.  I cut the back plate to be the same width as the collar plate edges at the top, and then took the outside edge down from about 1" at the top to 0 at the bottom above the parts that extend left and right.  Those were also trimmed 1" each on the outside edge, and on the bottom.





BTW, navel is roughly 1" below the bottom edge of the gut plate


EDIT:

This is what I was thinking with the shoulder bells - putting them around the upper arm, rather than extending out from the shoulders.  Would that be ok?



And here's a quick mockup of the overall armor using gimp, just drawing out the shapes roughly:

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Re: Lynx's Build
« Reply #11 on: Jul 27, 2018, 08:46 AM »
Got my sintra ordered and I'm waiting on it to arrive.  Until then, playing around with concepts for the color scheme and patterning.  I'm not 100% set on the black/gold idea shown here, but I think it doesnt look  bad.  Thing is, my flightsuit may end up being the actual flight suit my grandfather used while flying fighter jets in vietnam (I brought up the need for a flight suit while talking to family and my dad said he's got that one in storage somewhere), it would be awesome to be able to use an item of significance to my family as part of my armor.  I'm pretty sure it'll be a green flightsuit, but I wont know until I see it, so the colors will have to be based somewhat around that.

If it does end up being a green air force flight suit, what colors would go best with that as far as armor?  BTW, the gold parts of the picture below are trauma plating, already got the patterns cut out for those.  The second picture is just messing around with the idea of using a kama/half skirt and placement for a mythosaur skull on the back, which probably wont happen.




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Re: Lynx's Build
« Reply #12 on: Jul 27, 2018, 09:27 AM »
This is great. I love when people know what they want to do and plan it out. As far as the shoulder bells go, yes, you can definitely have them the way you want them. I'm not a fan of flaring out bells. I can't wait to see more progress from you. Nice work so far.

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Re: Lynx's Build
« Reply #13 on: Jul 27, 2018, 10:59 AM »
This is great. I love when people know what they want to do and plan it out. As far as the shoulder bells go, yes, you can definitely have them the way you want them. I'm not a fan of flaring out bells. I can't wait to see more progress from you. Nice work so far.


Oh no, the shoulder bells will be curved around the shoulder and upper arm - i only left them flat in the picture to show the trauma plating/color detail.

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« Reply #14 on: Jul 27, 2018, 11:11 AM »
I understood you about them being curved around your arm. I was referring to the flaring of Jango's, primarily. I'm not of fan of super flared bells. I like when they conform to the arm.

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