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TCW Deathwatch Grunt (Kenobi/Maul variant)
« on: Dec 07, 2018, 04:32 PM »
I am starting to build the TCW Deathwatch Grunt (Kenobi/Maul variant) with the intention to have it approved by the "Big 3" Clubs by Celebration. Being a Merc first I want to build it to MMCC standards. Given that we currently do not have a published CRL for the Maul Grunt I am hoping I can get a lot of guidance from the members and resources here.

That said, this is what I have so far for the build.

Helmet - Imperial Surplus cast of the Cruzer mold
Armor kit, Westars and jetpack - Eternal Armory
Boots - Palladium Pampa high tops as suggested for other DW kits
Lightsaber - Saber Forge Redeemer (I know that's not allowed for MMCC but I'm going to be documenting my work on the RL and 501st forums as well)

The Rebel Legion CRLs call for a black or charcoal gray flightsuit. I believe this should be charcoal gray but I need confirmation before I make the plunge.

For the flak vest, is leather/pleather the preferred material or would a waxed canvas/duck cloth suffice? I ask not just for accuracy but also comfort. I'm in SoCal and leather/pleather isn't very comfortable in this climate. If its the preferred material I'll use it but I'd like to know if there's a more comfy option.

My plan is to get the helmet and armor rough cut this weekend so I can start checking shape/size.

The Rebel Legion has a nice repository of reference material for this particular variant so I think I can manage the paint colors and detail. If there is anything I need to look out for on this please let me know.

Pictures of the armor kit and questions (most likely) coming soon!

For my own reference
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Re: TCW Deathwatch Grunt (Kenobi/Maul variant)
« Reply #1 on: Dec 07, 2018, 04:55 PM »
Hik'aari is definitely a great place to start as he's brigade cleared.  Give me a little bit to look over what you have. 

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Re: TCW Deathwatch Grunt (Kenobi/Maul variant)
« Reply #2 on: Dec 07, 2018, 05:26 PM »
Thanks Mi'ix. Hik'aari has the only WIP on the forums that I've found was followed through to completion and approval. That's been a great reference as I started planning this kit.

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Re: TCW Deathwatch Grunt (Kenobi/Maul variant)
« Reply #3 on: Dec 07, 2018, 08:48 PM »
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Re: TCW Deathwatch Grunt (Kenobi/Maul variant)
« Reply #4 on: Dec 09, 2018, 09:13 PM »
Thanks to a warm, dry couple of days I got a decent start on my armor and helmet.

I have the helmet all cut out and almost ready for paint. I want to take another pass at sanding and fit the visor before paint.





I also got all of the armor rough cut. The collar and backplates were too wide. With the help of a fellow ruusíalor today I got them marked and cut down to a much better width. I need to fill the gaps (out of spot putty) and sand. The return edges donít quite meet my personal standards for realism. So I plan to fil the underside edges of all the armor with a narrow band of 3mm sintra. This will help give the armor the illusion of thickness without the added weight.



And because I wanted to get something actually built, I put the gauntlets together. They are 1 piece with no hinge because I have narrow hands so I can slide them through easily. Iíll be trimming the ends with sintra as mentioned above and filling the seam lines.



We have a busy weekend coming up so Iím going to try to get some work done in the evenings this week.

I do need to know what material I should get for the vest and girth belt. Pleather/leather or duck cloth?

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Re: TCW Deathwatch Grunt (Kenobi/Maul variant)
« Reply #5 on: Dec 10, 2018, 05:14 AM »
Commenting to follow.

In my opinion black duck cotton is correct for both the flight suit and the vest, and I have been approved with them.

The girth is an odd one; mine is made from leather, but turned back-to-front so the "soft" side of the leather that is a bit more textured faces out. This gives a nice contrast against the "ammo pouches" which are just more black leather, but this time with the smooth side out, which are sewn to the girth to make sure it is always in the correct place. There is an appoximate order for the size and shape of boxes, but in my opinion it is more important to get them spaces to the center piece is correct, and the pieces with the square cut outs are on the outside of the hips.

Also watch out for the height when you mount the ammo boxes to the girth, the top and bottom gaps are not equal, the ammo boxes are actually mounted slightly above center to give the top side a smaller amount of girth showing than the bottom.

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Re: TCW Deathwatch Grunt (Kenobi/Maul variant)
« Reply #6 on: Dec 12, 2018, 06:39 PM »
So a fellow Mando mentioned this new way to attach armor to a vest using pin blanks and locking backs. So I snagged this stuff to give it a try on this kit.



Basically you epoxy/glue/whatever the pin blank to the back side of the armor and poke it through the vest. The locking back secures it and there is no need for a reinforced hole like with Chicago screws. Just pop the back off and reset the plate as needed, leaving only a small pin hole. In theory it should make alignment easier without the "get it right or you're hosed" pressure of bolts or screws. We'll see...

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Re: TCW Deathwatch Grunt (Kenobi/Maul variant)
« Reply #7 on: Dec 13, 2018, 09:01 AM »
Ha, that's the attachment method I use for my Boba. 

It pulls the armor in really nice so you don't have any floating plates.  :)


That helmet cleaned up really nice. 

Who is the maker of your helmet and armor? 

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Re: TCW Deathwatch Grunt (Kenobi/Maul variant)
« Reply #8 on: Dec 13, 2018, 11:10 AM »
The helmet is from Imperial Surplus and the armor is Eternal Armory.

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Re: TCW Deathwatch Grunt (Kenobi/Maul variant)
« Reply #9 on: Dec 14, 2018, 06:18 PM »
Chiming in to talk about that flightsuit;

In agreeance that black is the color that makes the most sense. And I agree with duck cloth, as well. It's a good sturdy material that I think matches the visual refernces fairly well. A little weathering on it would help it match up, too :)

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Re: TCW Deathwatch Grunt (Kenobi/Maul variant)
« Reply #10 on: Dec 19, 2018, 05:47 PM »
Would a dark charcoal gray for the flightsuit be acceptable? In the references it appears to be lighter in color than the black vest.

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Re: TCW Deathwatch Grunt (Kenobi/Maul variant)
« Reply #11 on: Dec 20, 2018, 03:08 AM »
Would a dark charcoal gray for the flightsuit be acceptable? In the references it appears to be lighter in color than the black vest.

Personally I still think it is black, but weathered. In that episode too the "light bleaching" is unreal. Some scenes are so bright what is accepted as black in some scenes turns a blue colour (like black cloth does with a bright enough light). It is really hard getting any consistent colours from it as references.

However, I am not who will be approving anything. Purely personal opinion from my own research.

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Re: TCW Deathwatch Grunt (Kenobi/Maul variant)
« Reply #12 on: Dec 20, 2018, 05:00 PM »
I'm in the weathered black camp.

Padm and I have spoken about this at length and that's what we feel would be the most accurate. Just keep in mind we represent the Brigades, not the app team. If you haven't done so already, I would shoot them a question and get their take on it.

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Re: TCW Deathwatch Grunt (Kenobi/Maul variant)
« Reply #13 on: Dec 20, 2018, 05:08 PM »
I've sent the question in via the Q&A forum, just waiting for a response.

For Brigade approval you're saying the flightsuit and girth belt (as it matches the suit) need to be black?

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Re: TCW Deathwatch Grunt (Kenobi/Maul variant)
« Reply #14 on: Dec 20, 2018, 05:10 PM »
I can post the images that we are looking at when I'm at a proper computer again but yes the weathered black looks the most accurate to me.

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