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Re: Sea_Marshall WIP: The Mandalorian V2
« Reply #30 on: Jan 05, 2021, 11:17 PM »
After taking the armor for a test run at a park, I found some structural integrity issues, namely I cracked the right shin along a print line, which I had bondo applied to, but alas. My armor is compromised and I may need to begin again. So I fiberglassed most of the 3D printed parts.

Sanded the plastic to 80 grit so the fiberglass has something to grab onto, then pre-cut strips of fiberglass cloth for easy application. A moment to reflect on Fiberglass Cloth, instead of Mat. Mat is like, fibery-glassy strands that gets everywhere, but is an excellent and reliable bond. I didn't want to deal with a mess so I tried cloth, which was a bit easier to prep, but isn't as nice applied. The cloth is solid, but something about the mat that I prefer. Anyway. Fiberglassing 3D printed stuff.





It did the job. For those first timers, you mix the resin and hardener according to the instructions on the can. Mix with a popsicle stick, then use a cheap chip brush (they're $1) to brush the mixture on the surface. You then apply the precut fiberglass strips. Then dab resin onto the strip to saturate it and fit it into grooves and corners. Next, layer the next bit, repeat. Wear a mask that filters aerosols cause its smelly work. Well ventilated area and all that. Also, best to do it at 70 degrees. You can do it colder, but the resin cure time is like two days, FYI.

All that fiberglassing should have been done first, but I wasn't invested at the time. So I'm going to sand everything back to it's filler primer layer.



I didn't do much to this kit. Filler primer followed by gloss, then graphite powder, and it was lovely. Fortunately I can sand it back super quick.

This next round will be wet sand to 1k, black gloss, 2k clear coat, Graphite, buff, 2k Clear coat.

I figure the graphite isn't a paint, but it's the black gloss that gives the mirror, so.... protecting the black gloss ensures a nice surface for graphite to be reapplied as necessary. But, I'll try to seal the graphite anyway. If I lose too much mirror from the clear, then I'll just leave it protected at gloss.

The cummerbund leather apron thing... I made one! Behold my not too bad attempt.

I guestimated about where I needed the thing to fall and made some rough measurements on 3mm craft foam.


I cut out the shapes:


I cut out an apron shaped bit of upholstery leather and placed the bits on it, then glued them to place. A larger square cut leather piece was placed over top. I used painters sticks and stacked bits of scrap to make sticks to press down the leather into glue, which held the shapes.



I systematically glued things down and worked the leather into place. It was a little time consuming and I did one section at a time before moving to the next. But, ta-dahhh. Leather apron thing. Just going to sew it in place, trim, add velcro, weather, done-zo.






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Re: Sea_Marshall WIP: The Mandalorian V2
« Reply #31 on: Jan 06, 2021, 09:21 AM »
That is a very difficult piece to make. 

Looks like you've done a great job!

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Re: Sea_Marshall WIP: The Mandalorian V2
« Reply #32 on: Jan 08, 2021, 02:49 PM »
Finished up the leather apron thing but folding over the sides and gluing them down. For angles, snip little divits in. Huzzah. Last looks before weathering.




A little off flow, I started the 2nd coat of filler on the pistol and main rifle body. Also, a Boba Fresh helmet got tossed on the work table. The pistol file isn't as accurate as can be, but maybe I'll find a new file down the line. This should do for now.



On the soft goods front, I've thrown together most of the left shin armor. Bison leather for the main wrap, some treated leather I had laying around with a bit of 3mm sintra glued to the back, then spritzed with flat red primer and lightly sanded to match the coloration of the part. Lastly, is thin pleather that was pleated then attached to the main leather to keep the shape of the piece, otherwise it bunches up and doesn't look right.









I think this will do for now. These aren't the actual leathers used, but should cover the bases for the most part. Wrinkly bit, red shin armor bit, pleated bit. Now I just need the top bit with the pouch but this is coming with the belt rig... which I believe is still in customs going on a month now.

Still need to get the cape moving.

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Re: Sea_Marshall WIP: The Mandalorian V2
« Reply #33 on: Jan 20, 2021, 01:13 AM »
The adventure continues!

I'll get the small stuff out of the way:



I took a look at the grav charges from JJ Industries. This is the raw kit, resin black topper, and appears to be acrylic base and red acryclic dome. The top pops out exposing the magnet (which connects to the plate on the belt) and room for small LEDs or some contraption. All I did was wrap a bit of painters tape around the base to snug up the fit so it doesn't open easily. I may do lights, sound would be cool, and both are upgrade worthy one day.

This next bit is more my observations and reflection on what I just did and why it did what it did. It was my first time using this stuff, so perhaps my next go around will be something different or cut to Alumaluster like I probably could have. I could also sand this back and repaint, but I digress. I'm going to finish the build with the current progress. Huzzah. If you're interested, here's my success and failures, however you want to view them.

I enjoy the simplicity, low cost, and high reward of graphite powder.


With every chrome, clear coating and protecting the finish is the big question. The issue lies in the clear coat fogs or dulls the reflective finish and polish of the silver and turns it a dull gray. There are paints and finishes that are intended to work together. There are finishes that preserve colors better. There are lots of options. A little internet research led me to a video that compared graphite clear coats and the take away was Spraymax 2K clear coat was the winner. With no application tips or tricks, I was off to the races to figure it out and document for science.

I'm torn on the look, but follow along and I'll attempt to explain some pros and cons.



Right out of the gates, the graphite color got darker upon application of the clear coat, BUT, the high gloss reflection remained. This is a win. The mirror remained, but it got darker... For the record, I put down a pretty smooth heavy top coat where it was an even gloss across the surface. I started off further and it misted the clear coat, so I got closer for better coverage. Big take away was the gray remained in the finish (dulled from the high polish of base graphite), and so did the reflection.



 It's still a close match and I reapplied a graphite layer on top to brighten it, but to very very little effect.



Click image for video here:


Here's the best representation I could get of the helmet in the garage. It looks like the graphite was added into the top coat, like it mixed with the spray. I can see evidence of color blending, though subtle, so I wonder if it combined since it was powder and liquid:



 Indirect and direct sunlight check:



Here's the rest after the clear coat had set for about 30 minutes:


And here's the same set, after the sun went down and just garage lighting:


It looks like it's going to work. I think the alumaluster route would be a brighter finish under the clear coat - and that 2k clear coat is great now that I've used it. $30 and once you crack it, its only good for 48 hours tops. But it did a great job, and I've used a few other clear coats in the past. I'm satisfied with the finish of this method and I'm happy that my graphite top coat is protected my a glossy finish and held it's mirror despite losing some luster.

Here's some theories I'd be interested in trying, or if you try, let me know.

I tried reapplying a graphite layer to the top clear coat, hoping the graphite would pull back some of its luster once I polished it. I did one coat and didn't notice a difference. I hear doing a graphite coat then another clear coat, then a graphite coat (buffed) will do a good job, but I'm stopping here. I like the reflection I'm getting and from my test, extra coats don't appear to yield the results I want. I'd just go alumaluster at that point, but this is an inexpensive alternative by maybe $80 and an airbrush kit.

The theory is this: Black gloss gives the mirror finish and graphite gives it that metal luster. I wonder if you clear coat the black gloss and protect it, then graphite on top to polish. You should keep that bright graphite finish with a protected base coat. If you need a touch up, a bit of graphite and buff. I found graphite, once applied, didn't really come off after buffing, so this sounds like a viable method to keep a high polish finish, but may require maintenance.

After all of my contemplating, however, I decided to protect the graphite layer. I had one can of fancy clear coat and if I was going to sand everything off, it was going to be after I confirmed graphite failed under the fancy clear coat. So far I appear to be aligned with things, but also feel it could be improved with a brighter finish, but I guess in the sun it would be like, KACHOW! I dunno. I'm still torn, but you be the judge.

If I go the black and gloss layer method, any ol' gloss clear will suffice since it's only protecting the black. Graphite would do the work regardless of clear.

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if you try this, let me know. I'm letting the 2k clear coat cure for a week and will pick up the armor again this weekend for airbrushing details! whoop whoop.

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Re: Sea_Marshall WIP: The Mandalorian V2
« Reply #34 on: Jan 20, 2021, 09:03 AM »
What was the gloss black paint you used under the graphite coat?

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Re: Sea_Marshall WIP: The Mandalorian V2
« Reply #35 on: Jan 20, 2021, 11:47 AM »
What was the gloss black paint you used under the graphite coat?

Plain ol' Rustoleum 2x Black Gloss and Primer

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Re: Sea_Marshall WIP: The Mandalorian V2
« Reply #36 on: Jan 20, 2021, 04:07 PM »
Happy day! Delta Leather Works belt is in hand! I've started installing the JJ Hardware. The cartridges were simple enough and fit like a glove. The belt slipped on easily as well. The belt sling on the shoulder needed a small leather pad glued to the belt to hold the part in place. It's setting. Grav charges and its holster needs assembly, then attachement, same for the rifle sling stuff. Getting there!





Home stretch on details this weekend. Can't wait to see it all together after some touch ups.

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Re: Sea_Marshall WIP: The Mandalorian V2
« Reply #37 on: Jan 21, 2021, 11:16 AM »
That’s beautiful leather. It’ll look great with some weathering!

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Re: Sea_Marshall WIP: The Mandalorian V2
« Reply #38 on: Jan 22, 2021, 12:57 PM »
Closing in now.

I caved and decided to get an inexpensive airbrush for a commission I'm working on, so... I guess I can get alumaluster now... but will wait until desperate measures require it. This was a cool kit, came with three different airbrushes, which is nice because I have a tendency of killing them during extreme painting sessions. Hopefully this one sticks around heh.



I got into weathering the flight suit and threads. I used the black that came with the airbrush to subdue the soft part threads from white to a dirty black/gray. "weathering". Since I had the airbrush out I weathered just about everything but will upload images for reference when I get to laying it out. In the photos you can see a before and after of the thread color in each image. Despite the deliberate coloration on the thread, it still shows up white compared to the rest of the suit in photos.



Satisfied with the soft parts, I moved to the final pieces of the costume now that the belt is in hand. I loaded all the cartridges but found some weren't as snug so I revisited the parts with some black gaff tape wrapped around the center to snug up the grab on the belt loops. Revisited and weathered the parts afterward.

I've assembled the JJ Industries rifle plate and explosives holster. Both are attached to the belt now. I will revisit the detonator at a later time to install lights as an upgrade.



I found these online: https://www.amazon.com/GDEALER-Battery-Powered-Halloween-Christmas/dp/B01MDV1TYS/ref=sr_1_6?dchild=1&keywords=fairy+lights+blue&qid=1611336443&sr=8-6

The Fairy Lights in blue were a nice costume hack. The strings are wire with LEDs on the string. I twisted them up to form them like a dart, cut a bit of plastic to fit over the rocket port, marked the holes, drilled them out, and stuck the lights in. The battery pack is run off of lithium ion, included with the package, and the on/off switch is at the rear of the gauntlet. Nothing fancy, but a fun inexpensive detail added. I could probably pull them through a bit more to the front of the cone, but eh, good enough for now. Easy assemble and deconstruction for maintenance. I just ran a strip of tape over the rocket space, maybe upgrade to a plastic one day.




The cape is the *final piece. Photos of the complete costume and parts soon.

*I ordered a Pulse Rifle and Pistol kit from https://traywickdesigns.com/ waiting for those to ship, but I have the pistol on hand, which is good enough for the application. The rifle is optional in both MMCC and 501st.

Lots of minimum requirements here with upgrades planned for the future.

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Re: Sea_Marshall WIP: The Mandalorian V2
« Reply #39 on: Jan 22, 2021, 03:40 PM »
Can’t wait to see it all on you together and completed!


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Re: Sea_Marshall WIP: The Mandalorian V2
« Reply #40 on: Jan 24, 2021, 10:20 PM »
First round of photos!






I found a few things I need to tweak and improve on for another session.

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Re: Sea_Marshall WIP: The Mandalorian V2
« Reply #41 on: Jan 25, 2021, 09:19 AM »
Looks like some good, solid pictures!

Is the handle of the pistol black or a dark brown? 

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Re: Sea_Marshall WIP: The Mandalorian V2
« Reply #42 on: Jan 25, 2021, 10:39 AM »
Is the handle of the pistol black or a dark brown?

it's a dark brown with light brown scratches (same color on my right shin).  I can lighten this up for a better difference. It is pretty dark. I have a more accurate version on order and will upgrade to this new unit when it arrives and is painted.



I have these images on my clan page, giving this year's ruus'alor team a fun pre-app. I have a darker visor that should be less reflective in the mail, just waiting for arrival so I installed a smoke visor I have, but it's picking up a lot of indirect light. There are a few fitting things I'd like to secure but otherwise it was a good test fit. Wanted to run it through some pre-app and feedback before I submit to the club.

I appreciate everyone's help getting to this point. Feedback appreciated for my next suit up for apps.


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Re: Sea_Marshall WIP: The Mandalorian V2
« Reply #43 on: Feb 07, 2021, 12:33 AM »
Right Gauntlet LED display video:

https://i.imgur.com/7UpfokJ.mp4


NOTE: I am submitting without the rifle, as optional, so I have detached the sling magnet for the left shoulder.

App photos submitted for review:





Indirect, Direct, and Indoor lighting for consideration (Graphite Powder finish)




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Re: Sea_Marshall WIP: The Mandalorian V2
« Reply #44 on: Feb 07, 2021, 03:08 AM »
Equipment photo dump for references:

Helmet:



Chest & Ab:


Shoulders:


Gauntlets:


Gloves:


Thighs:


Cummerbund & Tasset:


Hips:


Belt and Bandolier:




Flightsuit & Vest: (bleh I forgot the pants)



Holster:


Left Leg Gaiter:


Right Leg Gaiter:


Boots:


Blaster pistol:

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