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 WIP - Yorwoin

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WIP - Yorwoin
« on: Jan 31, 2022, 11:54 AM »
[2/21/2022] General Status Update:
 - Final Fabrication - Final Painting - Soft part finalization
 - Light Armor setup

General Story
          Yorwoin is a moderate Mandalorian that follows the supercommando codex. At a young age, he began to train under the supervision of a Journeymen Protector. As the Clone Wars came to an end and times changed, being Mandalorian warrior became increasingly difficult. During the siege of Mandalore, Yorwoin was struck by the explosion of an errand wrist-rocket whilst helping citizens to shelter. After an indeterminate amount of time, Yorwoin stirred awake to find himself rescued by the remaining deathwatch members. Finding the mere presence of the deathwatch abhorrent, he snuck armor away from them and fled into the wilderness. Separated from his teacher, people and suffering from lingering injuries, he remained hidden in the outer rim of space as a technician. Still holding on hope, he believes one day the Mand'alor will reunite his people and bring him out of isolation.

Finished Parts

 - Helmet creation w/ associated parts (Minor finishing left)
 - Collar plate creation
 - Chestplate creation
 - Belt items collection
 - Flight suit collection
 - Gauntlet creation (painting started)
 - Shoulder creation x2
 - Weapon creation
    - Westar x1 Created
 - Knee creation x2
 - Holster construction

Remaining / Future Work

 - Jetpack (will make after primary kit)
 - Vibroblade (will make after primary kit)
 - Armor sizing and modification
 - Backplate creation and assembly
 - Boot covers
 - Velcro fitting
 - Paint and finishing work

Key:
 - White = Finished piece
 - Green = Complete or ready for next phase
 - Blue = Finishing work needed
 - Yellow = In process / work in progress
 - Red = Development / incomplete



[Original Post]
[The concepts of this armor have changed to more traditional modern light-armor]
Su cuy'gar,

I have been working on my build and been posting on my clan's WIP page, but have not created one here. Here has been the progress so far: http://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/index.php?topic=208981.msg2278447#msg2278447

I am making my pieces in PLA on my Ender 3 Pro and it has been going pretty well. I am going for modern-style medium (possibly) armor and have modified a plate carrier to hold my panels.

This is the armor I am using as a reference image. Some parts have been modified like the chestpiece and knees to a jango fett style.


Here are my helmet fittings. I still need to fit the helmet with pads and a visor (Post-primer and smoothing)


The pauldron is a test print and has been modified since the mythosaur was off center (Pre primer)


These are the beginnings of my flightsuit. The belt is going to be modified to reflect the SW aesthetic (sans handcuff case)


Here is an assembled Westar 35 custom (Pre-primer)



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Re: WIP - Yorwoin
« Reply #1 on: Feb 01, 2022, 12:28 AM »
Quick update. I have started working on the from plates. Here is a loose fit before they were form fitted and assembled.



I am printing the backplate now. Unfortunately, I do not have a photo of it at the moment. However, it is a lightly modified Jango Fett style backplate.

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Re: WIP - Yorwoin
« Reply #2 on: Feb 01, 2022, 12:36 AM »
Youíve got a great start here! I love the roundness of the helmet, it has a similar feel in the profile as Dinís helmet.  Iím looking forward to following your build 🙂

Iím not sure if youíve heard this rule before, but double posting is a no-go on the forums. If you have another update and no one else has commented, just edit your previous post to include your new content as well.

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Re: WIP - Yorwoin
« Reply #3 on: Feb 01, 2022, 01:44 AM »
Oh, my bad. Was not aware of that. I will try to avoid that in the future.

Appreciate the feedback!

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Re: WIP - Yorwoin
« Reply #4 on: Feb 01, 2022, 04:01 PM »
Here is a test fitment of the panels and belt. How does it look?




(I think I am just going to update here. Hopefully I am posting these correctly)

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Re: WIP - Yorwoin
« Reply #5 on: Feb 02, 2022, 01:42 AM »
I would shorten the abdominal plate about an inch or two. Itís awfully close to your waist items, possibly even touching your girth belt, if one is present. Ideally, the bottom edge of your ab plate should stop at, or just above, your navel.

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Re: WIP - Yorwoin
« Reply #6 on: Feb 02, 2022, 11:01 AM »
Ironically, it is at my naval. I believe I set the belt too high. That may work.

Re: WIP - Yorwoin
« Reply #7 on: Feb 02, 2022, 12:07 PM »
With a long torso, it's hard to get the proportions set. Making the ab plate a bit shorter may still help get The Look correct; confirm with your Ruus'alor to be certain, and mock it up in cardboard before chopping into your plates. Aside from possibly tweaking the ab plate,  your collar plate seems wide. Shown in the laid out plates, it looks like there's almost an inch/25mm of extra width to either side of the chest plates, and it seems like it's there when you have them on. Checking the CRLs, the top corners of your chest plates and the bottom corners of your collar plate should be about the same width, and if not the same, the collar would be narrower than the chest plates by a little bit.  You can try adjusting spacing on your chest pieces, but ultimately you'll probably need to trim the collar plate.

Your shoulder plates might be a little small for you - if they sit comfortably and move with you well it may be fine, but I think a bit larger will be better. How are they attached? They are usually attached to sleeve caps on the vest.  You may need to move them higher up to meet the spacing & placement requirements anyway, so even something as simple as some short straps of webbing attached to your vest to hold them on might work. Again, consult your Ruus - don't take the word of Rando Mandos like me as gospel.

All that said: your plates are looking pretty good, and don't seem to be floating; it's a bit hard to tell with your body slightly turned. 

Advice for photos - get square shots as well - head on, side, side, back. You may need a friend or relative that owes you a favor to help (I have my older kid do it, they usually like helping the old man with nerd stuff). The 3/4 turn is a useful additional view but it makes it harder to see things like spacing between plates clearly.

As for the belt itself - the dark color of your belt and the shirt behind it makes it difficult to see clearly in your latest picture. Since it looks like it's modern law enforcement/tactical gear, as you indicated earlier you'll want to swarz it up a bit. I personally prefer leather and canvas, but the advantages of modern gear (readily available, lower cost, practically indestructible) are hard to argue with. You'll definitely want to do something to dress up the buckle - bare plastic side buckles just don't look right, so drybrush some silver highlights or make a more swarzy cover or front plate for it (you could replace it with a metal one the same size, paint it and distress the paint).  The pouches would probably be good with some weathering and maybe put some little metal plates or other greebles on the flaps to add some flair.

Be careful with black on black on black or other dark over dark layer color schemes - monotone sounds cool and looks neat when you try it out on screen in Mando Creator etc. but in real life the layers can just melt together and it's hard to tell what's going on - you don't have the crisp linework separating your parts in real life. Monochrome with varied shades keeps the dark on dark scheme but makes the layers read better, so if your flight suit was faded just a bit compared to your vest, the issue goes away. Weathering at the edges of layers will further highlight and improve the look.

The pop of purple with your sash is a good move - it cuts the monotony well and makes a clear visual break from upper and lower.

Overall, vod, you're off to a good start and nothing that has been pointed out is unsolvable. Also solid choice with the Westar, its Iconictm.

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Re: WIP - Yorwoin
« Reply #8 on: Feb 02, 2022, 12:24 PM »
Ironically, it is at my naval. I believe I set the belt too high. That may work.

I have that same issue, with having a long torso for my height. Definitely try lowering your waist items to see if that solves the problem. And, to echo what Second Son said, definitely get head on ďorthographicĒ shots of yourself in your kit. If you donít have anyone to assist you, set your camera/phone up on a table, against a vertical surface, and set the cameraís timer for ten seconds. Thatís how I take most of my pics.

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Re: WIP - Yorwoin
« Reply #9 on: Feb 02, 2022, 03:03 PM »
Yeah, I was afraid my collar plate was a little wide. I have no problem cutting it up to fit the size. I was thinking I could cut it diagonally so the two corners could meet, as seen in the photo below. I have seen other kits similarly structured and I hope that is the correct direction.

Image showing cut angle


The spacing of the plates is generally pretty event. If not, I can move them since they are velcro'd on there. The shoulders *may* be a bit small, but that really was not a great photo. That is not my actual flight suit; I have a pair of coveralls that are a similar shade of blue. They were taped there to see how it all looked collectively. Here is the position it's supposed to be in:

Images showing correct positioning




The suit is supposed to fit in this manner. Of course, the collar plate is off, but I have already mentioned a potential solution. Here is the fitment (again, not my flight suit since that takes a while to get on and off).

Images showing forward and side fitment of plates




The belt *definitely* needs weathering, but I do not have my weathering paints yet, so it looks tactical still. As much as I really appreciate leather gear, I do not have the structure for that at the moment. I have a plan to metallicize the buckle and add some depth, so it looks less earthly. I am trying to avoid using so much black and plan on airbrushing brown into them to make it pop more. Additionally, I will fabricate some things to attach onto the belt (i.e., greebles). I appreciate the in-depth reply, Second son.


Re: WIP - Yorwoin
« Reply #10 on: Feb 02, 2022, 04:48 PM »
You're welcome vod. I try to provide the most in-depth feedback I can - simply saying 'you need to fix x' without some context or a suggested approach is not very helpful.

I hadn't realized your flight suit is more of a dark blue(screens vary, photos and lighting can play tricks!) - that will definitely look nice with the purple and avoid the monotone look I was worried about.

The head-on shot makes things much clearer - I agree with Tramp that the ab plate could be a bit shorter - I'm thinking an inch or less - to pull it up a little from the hem of your vest. That would help prevent the impression that your plates are crowding your waist items. Even if the general guidance is 'at your navel' that should still be judged against the overall proportion and look of the kit together. No need to rush for the knife just yet, it can wait until the rest of the kit is more fully filled in to have a better judgment.

For your collar, keeping the outside point and trimming in to the chest corners works. Try seeing how it feels to move the edge over 25mm parallel to the existing edge. What I'm wondering is how it feels when you raise your arms and your shoulder changes shape - does it bite into it as your deltoid bundles up or continue to ride above it? Your shoulder bells may get pushed into the collar plate and bind a bit if they get larger and/or move too far upward. There's a lot going on it that area as far as movement and fit.
I would recommend making a paper copy of the collar to test out how much to cut away before committing.  Maybe keep a spare copy in case you need to know what the original shape was in case you need to re-work the edges a bit more later. (I.E. you cut the diagonal but want to change it to the parallel option).

It looks like you are finding your fit and solving problems as they pop up and that's the way to do it.


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Re: WIP - Yorwoin
« Reply #11 on: Feb 03, 2022, 01:43 PM »
Quick update,

I took your advice and chopped the collar plate. Unfortunately, I do not have a photo of it at the moment, but I did cut on I showed in a previous post. Regardless, it looks much better than before. I will do some final shaping with a heat gun and finalize the shape.

I will have to test some belt positions and determine if it does crowd. I am used to mounting belts higher on my hips, so that could be an issue. Although, I understand the closeness of the ab-plate, so we'll see.

The shoulders do bite a bit when I move my arms up too far, but I have not done real testing with the shoulder fitment. Worst case scenario, I make them larger and mount them further down my arm. 

I finished creating the backplate and will do appropriate shaping. The photo shows it in pieces because I literally did nothing to it but test fit with tape holding it together.





I am going to start work on the thigh plates and holsters soon. Those should take less time than the back plate. Hopefully.

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Re: WIP - Yorwoin
« Reply #12 on: Feb 03, 2022, 04:29 PM »
Su'cuy Yorwoin, your armor is looking great! :like: keep up the good work


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Re: WIP - Yorwoin
« Reply #13 on: Feb 04, 2022, 07:28 AM »

The back plate looks awesome!  Did you print it or make it from sintra?  It looks like it fits really well already. 

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Re: WIP - Yorwoin
« Reply #14 on: Feb 04, 2022, 09:02 AM »
Mocked up my thoughts on this.
The biggest issue I'm seeing is the sizing of the ab plate. It's huge.  Ab plates should generally carry a 2:1 ratio of width to height.  If you make that adjustment, trim the bottom fangs on the chest, and recut the topside angles of the ab plate, you'll be much better off with the fit. The mockup isn't perfect, but it provides a general idea.

When making a classic set of armor, such as this, the coverage would best be described as "vital organs only". This keeps the armor properly sized to your chest. Pay attention to the last pic, which gives a good aspect of where the bottom of the ab sat on Boba. Look at where his hips and belts are in relation to the bottom of the ab plate. This will help with sizing. It also may cue you that you chest plates may be too large as we'll.

Finally, and most importantly; contact your clan Ruus'alor Sol'yc! :like:






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