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Slug throwers
« on: Mar 18, 2023, 08:39 PM »
So Iím working on my kit with the intent of applying for the force hunter brigade, and decided that the perfect weapon would be a short range slug thrower. However I know these are extremely rare in the starwars universe and was wondering if this would be allowed.

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Re: Slug throwers
« Reply #1 on: Mar 20, 2023, 11:36 AM »
Definitely! I also would not consider them rare, just not as popular as blasters. Luke, Boba, and the Tuskens all used slug throwers.

Looking forward to seeing what you come up with!

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Re: Slug throwers
« Reply #2 on: Mar 20, 2023, 09:00 PM »
you're probably gonna want a scatter gun like the Trandoshan's use

i don't know why but this one has always intrested me, unused concept by Matthew Savage


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« Reply #3 on: Mar 22, 2023, 06:06 PM »
LOL, when I read this I literally thought throwing a (slimy) slug...


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« Reply #4 on: Mar 22, 2023, 06:22 PM »
Here is the wookieepedia category for slugthrowers that have appeared in the SW universe. I advise you look into these to see how you want yours to look like.

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Category:Slugthrowers

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Re: Slug throwers
« Reply #5 on: Mar 28, 2023, 01:52 PM »
So Iím working on my kit with the intent of applying for the force hunter brigade, and decided that the perfect weapon would be a short range slug thrower. However I know these are extremely rare in the starwars universe and was wondering if this would be allowed.

The folding stock AK 47 is now canon. Put a scope on it. Call it good.

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Re: Slug throwers
« Reply #6 on: Mar 31, 2023, 07:50 PM »
If you are referring to the slug thrower we see in Andor, it's a little more complex than that. As most of SW blasters, even this one is a mash up of different weapons (at least 3 in this specific case), plus several greeblies. Just slapping a scope on an ak wouldn't be enough to get approved.

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Re: Slug throwers
« Reply #7 on: Mar 31, 2023, 08:42 PM »
If you are referring to the slug thrower we see in Andor, it's a little more complex than that. As most of SW blasters, even this one is a mash up of different weapons (at least 3 in this specific case), plus several greeblies. Just slapping a scope on an ak wouldn't be enough to get approved.

What weapons? I've played with semi auto AK clones. That looked pretty stock to me.

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Re: Slug throwers
« Reply #8 on: Apr 01, 2023, 05:09 AM »
What weapons? I've played with semi auto AK clones. That looked pretty stock to me.
If you look closely the back and folding stock portion are from an mp40 or similar while the mag seems from an SKS


Half the dust cover is completely gone, plus the back part, where the fixed stock should go is completely rounded

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Re: Slug throwers
« Reply #9 on: Apr 01, 2023, 09:01 AM »
So Iím working on my kit with the intent of applying for the force hunter brigade, and decided that the perfect weapon would be a short range slug thrower. However I know these are extremely rare in the starwars universe and was wondering if this would be allowed.

I think this is a brilliant idea. It's definitely canon. Mandos used them effectively against Jedi, as the slugs melt and CAN spread out and hurt the Jedi if they don't position their blade to destroy the whole slug.

The most common canon slugthrowers are:
- Scatter Gun: Same appearance as the shoutgun in Republic Commando, which is now Legends. At close range, it can penetrate deflector shields.
- Cycler Rifle: First seen used by The Tuskens, uses a high velocity projectile to land powerful, shield penetrating shots. Can even remove limbs with a single shot. The Cycler, however, is very primitive, single shot, and rarely used outside of primitive Outer Rim cultures and Hunters.
- An entire world used slugthrower weapons, even artillery on walkers. Carnelion IV
- Czerka makes a Adventurer model Slugthrower Rifle which is essentially a refined and advanced Cycler Rifle.

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Re: Slug throwers
« Reply #10 on: Apr 02, 2023, 04:10 PM »
If you look closely the back and folding stock portion are from an mp40 or similar while the mag seems from an SKS

Half the dust cover is completely gone, plus the back part, where the fixed stock should go is completely rounded

The AK series of rifles has been in constant production since 1947 in over 20 nations, where it was licensed, and at least twice that many where it was made without the benefit of licence. The basic design has undergone three revisions officially and has been modified into well over fourty different designs in many of the nations that were licensed and was changed to suit local manufacturing limitations in many of the nations where it was not licenced. The folding stock model has been made in all of those revisions and most of the nations that paid for the licence. It has been made, officially, in a range of calibers from the 5.56 Russian up to a 12 gauge shotgun.

The Russians took themselves a lot of German scientists and German manufacturing. They didn't give a damn about Nazi patents or licenseing so they stole from the Germans heavily to make the original AK. The MP-40 was one of those Nazi German weapons so it has much in common. It is in fact mentioned specifically in the Wookiepedia article "AKS Ė Featured a downward-folding metal stock similar to that of the German MP40, for use in the restricted space in the BMP infantry combat vehicle, as well as by paratroops." The Wookiepedia Article is very informative, I suggest reading it, I enjoyed learning a number of facts that had escaped my knowledge of the weapon. Did you know the Isrealis have their own modified version of the AK? I didn't. Cool to know, if the Isrealies are stealing your design you've done something right. Those folks know their hardware.

There have been some model of rifle based on the original AK-47 in every conflict of the late 20th century and still is going strong in the 21st. It is one of the most durable and reliable weapons ever made and can fire as well brand new off the line as it does after being immersed in mud (As long as the barrel isn't plugged of course). It appears on flags of a few legitimate nations and the banners of some terrorist organization. It can be easily identified from its rather distinctive sillhouette by Aboriginies in Australia who have never met white men or seen a television. Ok, that's an exageration. But short of being an Aboriginal in Australia who never saw a TV the odds of a random person recognizing the AK silhouette from a snapshot is pretty darned good.

Removing the bolt cover isn't much of a modification, if the model used even had a bolt cover. As for the SKS magazine, that's the same caliber 7.62X39 as the AK. The SKS magazine, developed for a handful of SKS designs (most were fed from stripper clips and didn't have magazine well) were slightly smaller than an AK series magazine. You couldn't safely use them in each other but in a pinch the magazine fed SKS models could be hand fitted to take an AK magazine. I suspect the SKS magazine (I've never owned an SKS model with a magazine well) will fit into the AK and might even work. I wont promice anything and your milage may varry.

They may not have used a 100% original Russian Made AKS-47 Series 1A with the bolt cover removed. It might be a Chinese Model 56 or one of the hundreds of possible variations made world wide that may not have even used a cover. It could even be a AKS-74 which uses a 5.56 round. Without analyzing the actual weapon I can't say. But it certainly holds the AK series look and styling. Even the stinky hippies who hate guns recognized it as an AK and cried that Disney was glorifying school shooters or some such nonsense.

I would argue that if someone were to remove the bolt cover from an AKS clone and put an oddball magazine in the well, pop a scope and some greebles on it would be real hard to argue it isn't a close enough replica of the weapon carried by that guy in Andor. To be honest I think any self respecting fan could make a far better modified version to look Star Warsish.  If someone did do exactly that, short of having a good picture of the Andor AK would you be able to tell it wasn't an exact or even better replica?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalashnikov_rifle and en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AK-47

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Re: Slug throwers
« Reply #11 on: Apr 02, 2023, 04:14 PM »
The most common canon slugthrowers are:
- Scatter Gun: Same appearance as the shoutgun in Republic Commando, which is now Legends. At close range, it can penetrate deflector shields.
- Cycler Rifle: First seen used by The Tuskens, uses a high velocity projectile to land powerful, shield penetrating shots. Can even remove limbs with a single shot. The Cycler, however, is very primitive, single shot, and rarely used outside of primitive Outer Rim cultures and Hunters.
- An entire world used slugthrower weapons, even artillery on walkers. Carnelion IV
- Czerka makes a Adventurer model Slugthrower Rifle which is essentially a refined and advanced Cycler Rifle.

The FFG role playing game gives a lot of good ideas. Also the Seperatists issued some interesting solid projectile weapons to their droid army. Firing explosive rockets is just as good as slugs. Hit an explosive charge with a lightsaber and I suspect you'll get a face full of kaboom.

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